Like, a thousand times over. Why does he keep reposting that same shower thought? Why is he so obsessed about that? Is there somewhere else he wants to kiss himself in the mirror?
This made me realize that it would be really hard to distinguish between a satirical NDT quote and something I have earnestly and profoundly thought to myself while 2 edibles into a nature documentary. And I'm not sure how to feel about that.
If we restructured society in a way that makes increases in efficiency benefit everyone I'd be fine with such things. The difference here is, however, that we don't live in such a society and that LLMs aren't actually useful or better at work that people are, it's just that managers and CEOs think they are. They will realize this in a few years after most of their software is fucked over and they'll have to hire actual developers to fix it.
Taylorist production has been tried, yielded objectively better results than the old production methods, and they were still scrapped. Workers wouldn't adapt to more efficient production methods without more pay, and it necessitates worker-managers to train other workers. Since the owners of the factory refuse to pay workers more, so it's DOA.
Capitalism isn't rational, and can not become rational. "Increasing efficiency" means firing workers, not improving production. I know you maybe aren't arguing for more efficient capitalism, just saying it has been tried. Taylorism is the Esperanto of production. "Increasing efficiency," to the capitalists, means firing people, not making the system more rational.
I had a suspicion you weren't advocating for capitalism. But just in case someone comes along and thinks "yeah make capitalism more efficient," I like to underline the fact that "efficiency" has a different meaning if someone is a worker than if someone is a capitalist.
It appears to be working, to execs and CEOs. But this will eventually be a problem when you are missing skilled workers who can handle things AI cannot.
It's basically overprized placebo, but the placebo effect is real. Honestly not sure how well this translates to company profits; shareholder value can definitely work like that, though - it increases because people think that whatever the company is doing will increase profits, not because it actually does.
I can't tell if this is real or not. It sounds ridiculous, but he does say some ridiculous things (like how millions of years of humanity have consumed more energy than four years of data centers...). But this just seems so comically ridiculous that I have trouble believing it.
This is why I hate when people fail to make it clear when something is satire. When people get used to doubting everything they see, then suddenly when someone really does say something comically ridiculous no one believes it.
I'll point it out from time to time and people will say "it's just a meme, don't take it so seriously." But we're supposed to be the rational and intellectually honest ones, no?
So why cultivate a meme culture where we can be just as misleading and deceitful as the fascists? This isn't a fire-with-fire situation. Their goal is to rob us of our humanity; if we stoop to their level, they win.
Even if he really did say this, my point stands, because of the simple fact that it's hard to believe at face value due to the prevalence of misleading memes. There's a line between disinformation and satire. Honest memes should make it clear which side of that line they fall on.
Okay, but nowhere on the post does it say "the onion," "satire," "parody," or "spoof." It's presented as if it's news, "BREAKING:"
My point is that if we make it impossible to tell the difference at a glance, then we're cultivating this mindset that whenever you see a post where an out-of-touch billionaire says something ludicrous, your reaction is to think "well it must be fake, no one would ever say that."
And then when it's about something that someone really did say, such as the "millions of years of human evolution consumed more energy than a data center does in four years" crap, people are less likely to believe it when they see it as a headline.
We dont always know everything at first glance. Expecting to leads to and cultivates a lack of intellectual curiosity. Being able to consider and arrive and conclusions and then seek corroborating evidence is a useful life skill for you to try and learn.
That's a really strange way of trying to justify spreading misinformation in the form of cheeky memes.
"Washing your hands is a good habit, so when you're sick you should cough on doorknobs because it will encourage good habits."
"Women need to be careful about who they date, so men who act like total asses are really just encouraging them to think critically and practice careful consideration."
I know how to search the Internet but believe or not if someone posts something which may or may not be real, either they can respond accordingly or someone else easily can, as you just proved.
I appreciate that. It is indeed a problem that people don't learn things for themselves, but in this case I wasn't planning to accept any response as gospel. It was more of a poorly communicated "did I miss something?"
Well, given that it was posted in Memes, and after what he said the other day, it's pretty easy to determine that it is parody. However, I do sympathize, as we are living in an age where most headlines appear to have come out of The Onion a mere decade ago, but are in fact the reality we face today.
You what saves water? Setting fires in orphanages. In today's Ted talk we're going to outline ways how orphans use up water that could be better used on chunguses. Big Chunguses. Chungodes. Hayden, what's the plural for Chungus and without that word were going to struggle grammatically and I'm not sure we can advance without it
Stupid orphans hogging all of that water, they should bring a lawsuit against them for endangering the supply needed for ai in having their place get on fire. It won't win but they can't pay for lawyers to defend it and they will go our of solvency and have to be dissoluted.
Now why do the courts let the rich file cases that have no merit to force people that haven't done wrong to pay millions of dollars indefinitely to defend themselves from bad faith allegations by shitty abusive rich people? Because fuck you, that's why. Any more questions? /s
And think of the benefits. So. Many. Benefits.
No, no. The executioner needs to stay hydrated. At least 16 oz every couple of hours.
Plus all the water that is needed to piss on their corpse...
That’s called recycling
Actually it does if you need to clean the guillotine afterwards. But I'm open for alternatives.
I've heard that coconut coir can be very absorbent.
Would be a shame if the blade rusts and it takes multiple attempts per billionaire.
Why do you need to clean the guillotine? Afraid they'll get an infection?
Oh come on, mods. What is this, fuckin’ reddit?
Think about how selfish marine life is, they live in water, water we could use to cool our AI data centers! Think about that!
In a way, this whole planet is a datacenter, with the oceans as it's cooling system. We are the data.
-Neil Degrass Tyson
In a mirror, you can kiss yourself only on the lips.
-Neil Degrass Tyson
Like, a thousand times over. Why does he keep reposting that same shower thought? Why is he so obsessed about that? Is there somewhere else he wants to kiss himself in the mirror?
This made me realize that it would be really hard to distinguish between a satirical NDT quote and something I have earnestly and profoundly thought to myself while 2 edibles into a nature documentary. And I'm not sure how to feel about that.
God I hate him so much... Well he used to just annoy me, but now I hate him
You know what conserves energy at nearly 100% efficiency?
A guillotine.
Net negative carbon footprint
Beautifully worded. I like you.
Genghis Khan would be proud
It at least provides me with better returns than a data center.
You know I am going to argue for the sake of it
It also conserves mass
I have no idea if things are real or satire anymore...
Why do we need an orphanage in the first place? Is the Orphan Crushing Machine not working?
Spoiler alert: they need orphans to run the orphan crushing machine.
Ahhh the circle of life!😍
If we restructured society in a way that makes increases in efficiency benefit everyone I'd be fine with such things. The difference here is, however, that we don't live in such a society and that LLMs aren't actually useful or better at work that people are, it's just that managers and CEOs think they are. They will realize this in a few years after most of their software is fucked over and they'll have to hire actual developers to fix it.
The problem is we want increases in efficiency that benefit 99% of people but the 1% want the opposite and can override everyone else.
Taylorist production has been tried, yielded objectively better results than the old production methods, and they were still scrapped. Workers wouldn't adapt to more efficient production methods without more pay, and it necessitates worker-managers to train other workers. Since the owners of the factory refuse to pay workers more, so it's DOA.
Capitalism isn't rational, and can not become rational. "Increasing efficiency" means firing workers, not improving production. I know you maybe aren't arguing for more efficient capitalism, just saying it has been tried. Taylorism is the Esperanto of production. "Increasing efficiency," to the capitalists, means firing people, not making the system more rational.
It wasn't my goal at all to advocate for capitalism, an inherently abusive system :P
Increases in efficiency should lead to less work required and a better life for everyone
I had a suspicion you weren't advocating for capitalism. But just in case someone comes along and thinks "yeah make capitalism more efficient," I like to underline the fact that "efficiency" has a different meaning if someone is a worker than if someone is a capitalist.
ALSO TO note, one of THIELS other proteges.
If it's stealing real jobs, perhaps it is time you should reconsider the 'doesn't work' perspective.
It seems to work just fine my dude.
It appears to be working, to execs and CEOs. But this will eventually be a problem when you are missing skilled workers who can handle things AI cannot.
thats why they are trying to get india to build the datacenters for them right now, and outsourcing some of the workers there.
Millions of people use homoeopathic medicine instead of visiting doctors. That doesnt mean homoeopathy works.
It's basically overprized placebo, but the placebo effect is real. Honestly not sure how well this translates to company profits; shareholder value can definitely work like that, though - it increases because people think that whatever the company is doing will increase profits, not because it actually does.
There are words I want to say, but I won't say them.
Probably for the best really, I mean bans can last forever.
Backpfeifengesicht.
Gesicht wie ein Telefonbuch.
Aufschlagen.
Zuschlagen.
Immer wieder nachschlagen.
Gesicht wie ein Telefonbuch.
Absolut nutzlos.
Nicht mal als Toilettenpapier taugt sie.
Höchstens als Zunder geeignet.
I can't tell if this is real or not. It sounds ridiculous, but he does say some ridiculous things (like how millions of years of humanity have consumed more energy than four years of data centers...). But this just seems so comically ridiculous that I have trouble believing it.
This is why I hate when people fail to make it clear when something is satire. When people get used to doubting everything they see, then suddenly when someone really does say something comically ridiculous no one believes it.
I'll point it out from time to time and people will say "it's just a meme, don't take it so seriously." But we're supposed to be the rational and intellectually honest ones, no?
So why cultivate a meme culture where we can be just as misleading and deceitful as the fascists? This isn't a fire-with-fire situation. Their goal is to rob us of our humanity; if we stoop to their level, they win.
Even if he really did say this, my point stands, because of the simple fact that it's hard to believe at face value due to the prevalence of misleading memes. There's a line between disinformation and satire. Honest memes should make it clear which side of that line they fall on.
What he said was that training humans takes a lot of water too, in defense of AI. This is a shitpost take on that.
Okay, but nowhere on the post does it say "the onion," "satire," "parody," or "spoof." It's presented as if it's news, "BREAKING:"
My point is that if we make it impossible to tell the difference at a glance, then we're cultivating this mindset that whenever you see a post where an out-of-touch billionaire says something ludicrous, your reaction is to think "well it must be fake, no one would ever say that."
And then when it's about something that someone really did say, such as the "millions of years of human evolution consumed more energy than a data center does in four years" crap, people are less likely to believe it when they see it as a headline.
We dont always know everything at first glance. Expecting to leads to and cultivates a lack of intellectual curiosity. Being able to consider and arrive and conclusions and then seek corroborating evidence is a useful life skill for you to try and learn.
That's a really strange way of trying to justify spreading misinformation in the form of cheeky memes.
"Washing your hands is a good habit, so when you're sick you should cough on doorknobs because it will encourage good habits."
"Women need to be careful about who they date, so men who act like total asses are really just encouraging them to think critically and practice careful consideration."
Me trying to figure out if the 5 year old orphan should be saved: "So the farmer must transport the wolf, goat, and cabbage across the river..."
Did he actually say this..?
He did not say this, but all-in-all, he did say this
"Know What Else Used a Lot of Energy? Human Civilization"
https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-know-what-else-used-a-lot-of-energy-human-civilization-2000725167
Thank you. This is exactly the answer I was hoping for ^
hold on i'll ask chat g pp (/s)
Im sure he will say it eventually, the bar is really low for this reality.
No, he didn't. Please, for your sake and ours, learn to search for facts yourself instead of asking strangers on the internet to do it for you.
It’s also easier to search for something someone did say, than to search for something they did not say.
I know how to search the Internet but believe or not if someone posts something which may or may not be real, either they can respond accordingly or someone else easily can, as you just proved.
Perhaps I was too harsh. My apologies. I'm just very worried about how people deal with information and truth recently.
I appreciate that. It is indeed a problem that people don't learn things for themselves, but in this case I wasn't planning to accept any response as gospel. It was more of a poorly communicated "did I miss something?"
Well, given that it was posted in Memes, and after what he said the other day, it's pretty easy to determine that it is parody. However, I do sympathize, as we are living in an age where most headlines appear to have come out of The Onion a mere decade ago, but are in fact the reality we face today.
Right. My question probably should have been "is this based on something he actually said or just a weird joke that I wouldn't get?"
Okay almost had me. I can't believe he would argue in favor of helping orphans.
You what saves water? Setting fires in orphanages. In today's Ted talk we're going to outline ways how orphans use up water that could be better used on chunguses. Big Chunguses. Chungodes. Hayden, what's the plural for Chungus and without that word were going to struggle grammatically and I'm not sure we can advance without it
Better that than feeding his goddamn Artificial Stupidity company
Stupid orphans hogging all of that water, they should bring a lawsuit against them for endangering the supply needed for ai in having their place get on fire. It won't win but they can't pay for lawyers to defend it and they will go our of solvency and have to be dissoluted.
Now why do the courts let the rich file cases that have no merit to force people that haven't done wrong to pay millions of dollars indefinitely to defend themselves from bad faith allegations by shitty abusive rich people? Because fuck you, that's why. Any more questions? /s
lol get lawyers?
Those losers can’t even get parents.
children need to stop drinking water, selfish assholes.
Actually had to make sure I wasn't on a NotTheOnion instance.
CPAP devices can recover water that you waste during breathing!
*places thumper*
Is that a spittle bottle? Or brew bucket? That's right! How could we have missed it! We can recycle farts!
If this is true: how disconnected from reality must you be to even say that sentence?
I think this is satire, based on his 'humans also use a lot of energy' statements.
Phew. I am normally not this gullible, but the internet has me questioning what used to be unheard of.
Thank you.