Don't let a handful of half wits convince you your comment isn't dumb and pointless. Regardless of your worthless contribution here, my point is living 500 miles away from something isn't all that close. At least 500.
I see the Midwest as more of a cultural region than a physical one. Ohio and Indiana honestly both perfectly fit in with the Midwestern culture, so I welcome them into the "Midwestern" moniker
Personally, I see the Midwest as a triangle with Ohio, Minnesota, and Missouri as the corners. Kentucky and Arkansas are too southern culturally (and honestly, the southern half of Missouri is too) Oklahoma is almost southwestern culturally, and Kansas, the Dakotas and Nebraska are very western culturally (and honestly Western Minnesota and Western Iowa are pretty Western culturally too)
i don't think you can be appalachian and midwestern, too. i think an argument can be made that the midwest is the mississippi and great lakes watersheds without mountains north of the missouri compromise line
I agree, and I meant west of the Appalachians, not necessarily including them. This of course does make ohio weird as regardless the vast majority of it is past the mountains but a tiny bit brushes into the foothills.
Nah, more of a "crabs in a bucket" situation. Nobody wants to be here. A not-insubstantial amount of the population was either dumped out the gate of the nearest military base upon retirement or is otherwise descended from those that were.
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True, although I intended there to be no pause between the directives and the start of the shooting, so I think we're basically in agreement, or close to it. heh
As an Ohio resident that had 2 people pull a gun on me and someone firing off in an alley I was working in just last year alone, I'd say it's getting close.
Imagine having fully operating concentration camps where people from all over the country is arbitrarily "detained" and put in, and just going about your day like usual.
The one thing that this overlay is making me realise is that there are actually some parallels here. The North and Midwest kind of seem the same type of people, same with the UK being the northwest, Iberia basically being California/Nevada and Italy being a spaghetti western country with far right tendencies.
Italy is more like california I think. Spain is a lot poorer. Greece is like lousiana maybe, spain could be like the texas gulf coast maybe. Central Europe is not unlike the upper midwest in the industrial heartland. Western Europe like the northeast corridor in the US.
is this an accurate representation of the US landmass ? I was under the impression they were much biger than that..., but they're roughly the size of Europe ?
The two "maps" are wildly out of proportions anyway. Looks like Sweden is the size of the entire US West Coast. When in reality it's about the size of California
One of the most common criticisms of the Mercator map is that it exaggerates the size of countries nearer the poles, while downplaying the size of those near the equator
For example, let's move Russia towards the equator
Mercator does compensate for that by introducing reference rectangles. But of course, that doesn't help when people making posts using those maps, are unaware of how to read them. And also just remove said reference rectangles
Given how the US border is distorted (Maine is north of the 49th parallel) I'm guessing this is one of those maps that distorts things as you move them around to keep the area constant. Like look how big Greenland looks up in the corner.
Imagine being from the US while your government is run by pedophiles who are turning the country into an authoritarian dictatorship. But meanwhile all you do is complain there's nothing you can do about it, how you're a victim (even though you voted for it or were stupid enough not to vote) while you defended the second amendment after yet another school shooting because you might need it in case of a tyrannical government. Keep in mind, the people who voted for the other option still voted for right wing, as there's no left wing representation in that country, because apparently the left is such a tiny part of the population they don't have any political representation.
All dystopian fiction writers would say this story wouldn't sell so wouldn't be worth writing about, because it would be too far fetched. Americans: "hold my beer..."
If you drive from the east coast to the midwest and back, as I have, you'll get a sense of how weirdly huge the United States is. There comes a point where your primitive monkey brain is confused that people still speak the same language.
New England is, roughly speaking, all the metacarpal states up there between New York and Maine, where the yankees you outlanders keep blaming the rest of us for being actually come from.
We don't have to imagine it. Across the border, right now the cartels are attacking the cities and setting them on fire. It's not on the level of Russia attacking Ukraine, but still, a little unsettling.
Does it matter when the "U" in US is no longer true anyways? Btw. Europeans are not as uneducated about "that country" as "that country" citizens are about Europe. Maybe it is just slop.
You still need to eat, drink, have shelter while there's a war or a fascist take over. The point of modern society though is to make that band of ability to do that so narrow you cannot afford to take a day off. Because fuck being part of the masses I guess.
Yes. The previous poster's map appears to be from Google's satellite images. They don't photograph the sea, so the water that is photographed around land looks darker than the sea.
I was saying that a bit like the Greenland (which isn't USAian) could be Alaska (which is USAian), both top left, Canary islands (not USAian) would be like Hawaii (USAian), both bottom left.
And Florida is killing people they don't like
We don’t have to imagine that one.
That's just an average day in Florida
quite and i think ohio is where a small civil war will happen when the trump regime is collapsing
...Ohio is part of the midwest.
I think this is the point
Then it's poorly made
The point is to demonstrate that Germany, Austria, Poland are not very far away from Ukraine. It compares the situation as described.
Imagine living in Minnesota, living life as you are used to, while there is a war in Ohio
Nobody know where those places are. Miami to NYC is a better comparison.
I had to look it up too but it doesn't take long to find out
Oh, but isn't everyone from the US? And even if you're not, at least have decency to learn the relevant¹ geography in school
::: spoiler ¹ …relevant being the US, of course. But learning in school in the US seems to be largely unavailable
/s :::
Like I said, poorly made.
Again, Ohio is part of the Midwest, so there's no comparison being made. So it's a poorly made point.
Idk, the US is huge, Ohio to Minnesota is a very long distance.
Do you get lost trying to find your way out of rooms with a single door?
Wow, so you resort to insults? Yea we're done you, you win by being the first to resort to name calling.
Why should anyone engage with your sophostry?
Man, you were so close to a coherent thought. Maybe a little less time looking up "sophostry" , and a little more time proofreading?
Don't let a handful of half wits convince you your comment isn't dumb and pointless. Regardless of your worthless contribution here, my point is living 500 miles away from something isn't all that close. At least 500.
And an ICBM can cover a distance of 500 miles in about 1.8 minutes, assuming a very rough average speed of 15,000 mph.
500 miles is nothing in a war zone.
Lol someone's a little touchy today
Well, your point’s been made. Conversation over, everyone.
eh, true midwest isnt till indiana. ohio is closer to west virginia/kenfucky
Ohio is officially counted as the eastern most Midwestern state. It has been for at least a century.
I see the Midwest as more of a cultural region than a physical one. Ohio and Indiana honestly both perfectly fit in with the Midwestern culture, so I welcome them into the "Midwestern" moniker
Personally, I see the Midwest as a triangle with Ohio, Minnesota, and Missouri as the corners. Kentucky and Arkansas are too southern culturally (and honestly, the southern half of Missouri is too) Oklahoma is almost southwestern culturally, and Kansas, the Dakotas and Nebraska are very western culturally (and honestly Western Minnesota and Western Iowa are pretty Western culturally too)
Yeah the transappalachian great lakes region and the great plains. The real question is is west Pennsylvania midwestern
i don't think you can be appalachian and midwestern, too. i think an argument can be made that the midwest is the mississippi and great lakes watersheds without mountains north of the missouri compromise line
I agree, and I meant west of the Appalachians, not necessarily including them. This of course does make ohio weird as regardless the vast majority of it is past the mountains but a tiny bit brushes into the foothills.
Isn't just living in Ohio the same as being in an active warzone?
Nah, more of a "crabs in a bucket" situation. Nobody wants to be here. A not-insubstantial amount of the population was either dumped out the gate of the nearest military base upon retirement or is otherwise descended from those that were.
Hey now there are also Scots-Irish infesting the Appalachian segments, got some distant kin there.
Shots fired
Get down
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…oh, sorry, I thought we were imitating US cops…
If we were, the directives would have occurred after all of the shooting.
True, although I intended there to be no pause between the directives and the start of the shooting, so I think we're basically in agreement, or close to it. heh
As an Ohio resident that had 2 people pull a gun on me and someone firing off in an alley I was working in just last year alone, I'd say it's getting close.
Imagine the people running your country are literally fucking and eating kids.
You could have added "fucking" after literally to make a double entendre.
Stupid autocorrect.
What?
Imagine having fully operating concentration camps where people from all over the country is arbitrarily "detained" and put in, and just going about your day like usual.
"Ohio isn't in the midwest."
Maps without the UP?
The UP is there, the map includes the borders at the great lakes
They botched the LP too
It looks more like they just left Lake Michigan as part of the main landmass
There is an active war in Ohio.
I am disturbed by the lack of Great Lakes.
Oh look at that DC is in Russia. Fitting analogy.
The Midwest ends somewhere around poland/the northern Baltics in that map, I was under the impression that those areas have been freaked out.
I'm in SW Romania. I can drive to Ukraine in a day.
And yea, just kinda... living my life. Not much else I can do.
It's kinda cozy there. It's like a tidy swamp.
If Ohio was being invaded by Canada, 20 million dudes with rifles would come running from all over the country just hoping to bag a Canadian.
walking
These roads aren't walkable. They'll definitely be driving.
Not from southern New England they won't.
Russia can just have Ohio.
Ohio isn't even a real state.
Ever meet anyone from Ohio?
Of course you haven't.
Oh, you have? That was a CIA agent.
Yes it is, do you know how many zoomers spent the last 5 years in a state of constant Ohio?
it's pronounced Ahegao btw
I thought that was Wyoming?
No, Wyoming is spare Colorado, if Colorado falls off we can replace it with Wyoming.
So when am I getting my back pay from the CIA?
We did that already, but with Minnesota.
The one thing that this overlay is making me realise is that there are actually some parallels here. The North and Midwest kind of seem the same type of people, same with the UK being the northwest, Iberia basically being California/Nevada and Italy being a spaghetti western country with far right tendencies.
Italy is more like california I think. Spain is a lot poorer. Greece is like lousiana maybe, spain could be like the texas gulf coast maybe. Central Europe is not unlike the upper midwest in the industrial heartland. Western Europe like the northeast corridor in the US.
California's economy ranks somewhere between the UK and Germany.
Texas would be somewhere between France and Italy.
Ohwhereo?
Ohhowihateohiostate
is this an accurate representation of the US landmass ? I was under the impression they were much biger than that..., but they're roughly the size of Europe ?
Yes it is https://thetruesize.com/
It looks just slightly bigger than in the OP's screenshot
If you move it the coast of Ireland (like the original) I'd say it's pretty much the same
The two "maps" are wildly out of proportions anyway. Looks like Sweden is the size of the entire US West Coast. When in reality it's about the size of California
One of the most common criticisms of the Mercator map is that it exaggerates the size of countries nearer the poles, while downplaying the size of those near the equator
For example, let's move Russia towards the equator
Mercator does compensate for that by introducing reference rectangles. But of course, that doesn't help when people making posts using those maps, are unaware of how to read them. And also just remove said reference rectangles
Given how the US border is distorted (Maine is north of the 49th parallel) I'm guessing this is one of those maps that distorts things as you move them around to keep the area constant. Like look how big Greenland looks up in the corner.
Greenland is not in the image
Then what is the unlabeled landmass at the very top left, northeast of Iceland?
The landmass in the very top left on the image in this post. Is Iceland.
Greenland is not northeast of Iceland either. It's northwest.
Alaska and Hawaii aren't pictured.
Because they'd be in Morocco!^[As any good US elementary school map of the US would show!]
The USA is slightly smaller than Europe (not the EU) if you include Alaska and Hawaii
Imagine being from the US while your government is run by pedophiles who are turning the country into an authoritarian dictatorship. But meanwhile all you do is complain there's nothing you can do about it, how you're a victim (even though you voted for it or were stupid enough not to vote) while you defended the second amendment after yet another school shooting because you might need it in case of a tyrannical government. Keep in mind, the people who voted for the other option still voted for right wing, as there's no left wing representation in that country, because apparently the left is such a tiny part of the population they don't have any political representation.
All dystopian fiction writers would say this story wouldn't sell so wouldn't be worth writing about, because it would be too far fetched. Americans: "hold my beer..."
If you drive from the east coast to the midwest and back, as I have, you'll get a sense of how weirdly huge the United States is. There comes a point where your primitive monkey brain is confused that people still speak the same language.
Something makes me think that the US should be flipped horizontally here. So that Florida is over Spain.
And New England would be sort of over Old England.
I was going to say that but my US geography isn't that good or any good really :-)
New England is, roughly speaking, all the metacarpal states up there between New York and Maine, where the yankees you outlanders keep blaming the rest of us for being actually come from.
That's pretty much what I thought, but wasn't going gamble my imaginary internet points on it.
We don't have to imagine it. Across the border, right now the cartels are attacking the cities and setting them on fire. It's not on the level of Russia attacking Ukraine, but still, a little unsettling.
this outline of the US looks like it was drawn by a European. it's wrong in many places.
It's a legal border map, not a landmass map, which is weird to me.
Does it matter when the "U" in US is no longer true anyways? Btw. Europeans are not as uneducated about "that country" as "that country" citizens are about Europe. Maybe it is just slop.
You still need to eat, drink, have shelter while there's a war or a fascist take over. The point of modern society though is to make that band of ability to do that so narrow you cannot afford to take a day off. Because fuck being part of the masses I guess.
the Great Lakes not so great again??
Prior to 1945, this kind of thing happened every 30 years somewhere in Europe. It’s kind of the usual
I mean Ohio already looks like a warzone anyway
I was on 70 to Columbus over the weekend. The Ohio side was SIGNIFICANTLY nicer [pavement wise] than the Indiana side.
Small compairison/Your mileage may vary I guess. 😂
Thats how I feel about Minnesota while living in PA...
And off the coast of Florida (a genocide & very soon another war).
But at least Alaska/Greenland is uncertain for some reason.
fuck this part of Finland ig
Åland? What about it?
I've only ever met one person from there. I forgot her name but she gave me a hug.
it's missing from the map- or the map is too low res to make it out
Well, it's also over-represented on your map. The area is a beautiful archipelago, but it's mostly water.
If you zoom in you'll see only light green depicts islands, deep green is the water near them that is not proper sea but archipelago.
Åland is closer to Sweden but it's still Finnish.
You can see it better on this one
Yes. The previous poster's map appears to be from Google's satellite images. They don't photograph the sea, so the water that is photographed around land looks darker than the sea.
Eaten by the entropy of repeated image compression probably
The greenhorns back east have no idea what is going on, out here on the western frontier.
Average EUrudite can't find Alaska on this map.
Who took them land of greens??
Hawaii/Canary islands also not pictured.
Canary Islands aren't USAian, so that makes sense.
I was saying that a bit like the Greenland (which isn't USAian) could be Alaska (which is USAian), both top left, Canary islands (not USAian) would be like Hawaii (USAian), both bottom left.
Here you goofed up by saying Ohio, now I am automatically on the other side. Canada, please take that forsaken land.
Does this mean Italy and Greece are the Texas of Europe?
Just Italy. Greece is Louisiana. Athens is the New Orleans of Europe.
Now, consider how different the culture is between Ireland and Syria.
I wouldn't care about nazis in Ohio either
Okay so end the war?
Which has happened countless times in the past. Europe is not a country.