Trump’s Letter to Norway Should Be the Last Straw
Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.
Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/trump-letter-to-norway/685676/?gift=hVZeG3M9DnxL4CekrWGK36YjEx6PWcaiwVCToEIk3KYOpen linkView original on lemmy.ca
The road is currently littered with things that should have been the last straw
And that's just from today. Here's the haul since new years
I was unable to find a photo of enough hay bales to represent 2016 till now. And that's just the current stuff, we'd need a full planet of hay to represent the number of last straws from before that, and a whole galaxy to represent the global last straws throughout history (obviously).
Yeah, throw it on the pile.
The last straw should have been mocking a disabled reporter. That was a decade ago.
If only someone time-travels themselves to convince future Trump voters in 2015 to vote for Hillary instead, then everyone would've been better off.
Which is probably nowhere close to the end. We’re probably going to have to go through a civil war, experience a nuclear catastrophe, something to cow the cultists back.
Anybody who reads that and doesn’t immediately conclude he’s absolutely fucked in the head and a threat to… everyone needs to get on the next SpaceX test rocket.
The problem is even if haalf of trump voters finally agreed. And united left and right all decided to message our reps to stop this it either goes discarded or Vance is next in line and he still pursues it
onunderThere are no more straws. Anyone who supports Trump at this point has already locked in and there isn't anything him or his admin can do to change their minds.
It's not about who supports him. It's about the people and organizations that have the power to do something about it sitting on their hands.
Dementia speaks folks.. it’s the late night sundowning and the posting in the wee hours when he should and would be sleeping if his brain wasn’t turning to plaque that’s the give away. Man is falling into the same disease that his father went down with and has played the ‘batshit’ game for so long it’s hiding what would be obvious in a normal, decent person.
His dad, his granddad, and his sister all died suffering terrible dementia.
So will he. And we’ll be there. Wheeee.
It's his personal terror, according to his niece, Mary Trump. I hope it takes him screaming, into the void in absolute rage and fear.
(I actually got a strike on Reddit for posting this.. can you believe it?)
Okay, so I can't really get angry over a demented old man yelling at the clouds, it's what they do...
But exactly what is happening in USA since there's nobody telling him to shut the fuck up? Somebody wrote this on a piece of paper for him and put it in an envelope and send it through as diplomatic post between two nations. And NOBODY at any point whatsoever had the courage to tell him what is obvious to everyone else on the planet: That these are the dumbest words every written on a piece of paper in the entire history of mankind. Really?
What are they so afraid of?
You described it well. It's what happens to tyrants, and invariably brings their downfall. It's a process: they replace more and more annoying critical voices with yesmen and -women. It strengthens their power, until literally nobody dares to criticize them anymore. And suddenly there's no way to correct course back to normal, and it all turns into a farce.
We have other living examples for that, historical examples, even fairytales - and measures against it. Separation of powers, no more than two consecutive terms, and ultimately the democratic process itself - if those haven't been hollowed out for decades.
Part of me wants to believe its because they enjoy letting him make a dook of himself but I know better.
Edit: somehow, ‘fool’ got autocorrected to ‘dook’.
I have decided I like dook better.
A fool of a dook.
dookie
They are afraid their corporate donors will get mad. Who benefits from this chaos? Corporations. Corporations who are handed the new contracts for resource extraction.
Just about our entire government is captured by these corporate interests. Foreign policy to enrich these powers has always been uniparty in this country try as we might to lie and obfuscate that. No one wants to speak out against Trump and lose out on the gravy train they have coming in with their kickbacks from donors.
Maybe the Epstein files don't just have pedobloat in them. SCROTUS/GOP/Billionaires, etc...they are all covering for each other's kompromat.
Not the rape, murder, torture, kidnapping, corruption, illegitimacy, illegality, unconstitutionality, warmongering, domestic and international terrorism, pedophilia, economic harm, environmental harm, the destruction of public landmarks, undermining congressional power, illegal firings and appointments, nepotism, theft, convictions, insurrection, sedition, or treason but his grade school bullying of our allies? THAT should be the last straw?
I mean, apart from all that, what's so bad about him? ;)
(a: He's also ugly and smells like poo.)
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Seriously?
We’re way past the Rubicon. The army is breaking through the city gates.
Really? The last straw happened in the beginning of his previous administration
Entire bales of hay followed, I'm buried under straws and I can barely breathe.
I think "last straw" is very relative.at best.
No. Because now we’re talking about Caesar crossing the Rubicon. Even the ancient Romans would have seen this as a logical progression of the conversation.
Just how jealous can he be of Obama? Run for president because a joke at the correspondence dinner and willing to start WWIII because Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. FFS
I sometimes wonder where we'd be today if Obama hadn't made that joke or been given the Nobel Prize. That abominable thing might never have entered politics, might never even have entered the conscious awareness of most people of the world.
Tens of millions of people fell in line behind him. The US was already completely fucked and there’s no hiding from that. Trump didn’t do anything people weren’t itching to hear and to latch onto.
He'd be grasping at straws for the next controversial thing to distract from the Epstein files getting out and proving his pedophilia
Amidst all the doomers in here... I know a crazy MAGA person in my family. They have been staunch about supporting him and defending him since the beginning.
They are livid about this Greenland situation.
Did they say why?
Well at least they draw the line somewhere
They'll change their tune if he does actually invade
I’m glad they have a line but they’re an irredeemable piece of shit for voting for him 3 times
Thank fuck. This at least gives hope!
Trunp campaigned on being the “peace president” and no more foreign wars. He actually meant he is the war president and MORE foreign wars.
"it can't be a war if I do it. I'M THE PEACE PRESIDENT!!"
There have been so many last straws. America is a threat to the world. That he remains in power is evidence.
Right? Swear to god I want to throw anyone who says “this most recent thing is the start of the descent into…”, or whatever other similar nonsense, into a big hole in the ground. Weak cowards who want the thrill of being close to danger but who never want to actually walk the walk.
And now there's no message of the Epstein files in the comments. The files the president can release with the flick of his finger. Great job America.
The last ten years have been filled with last straws. Pick one for godsakes! This dude is a child rapist
Trump mocking that disabled reporter because of who they are should've been the last straw.
Trumpie saying it was okay to grab them by the pussy, should've been the last straw.
If Donald's sibling Robert took over the Trump Organization instead, Donald wouldn't run for President to begin with.
I'd be surprised if nobody was attempting to fubd a rebellion right now. But so far all I see is:
"Do something!"
"We're up against at least 3 militaries"
"Trump is gonna invade my country!"
"Okay, I need organization and funding"
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING KILL HIM NOW"
Like some sort of 3rd graders idea of how rebellions work. Everyone is down, its the how thats got all these small cells screwed
We have no meaningful leadership. The only mass actions I hear about are standing on streets holding signs, and "economic blackouts" that are short, distant, and ineffectual.
ffs the dems shut down the govt and i was like "oh cool cuz fascism right?" and they were "nah jk actually cuz healthcare!" and then rapidly caved with no concessions.
We need a Mamdani to say "if you can afford to skip work, please do so, and don't go back until the madness stops".
Did you hear we made Andy Biggs shit his pants? Called the cops and got us all removed or arrested? The real shit isn't posted to socials. People are finding where these people live.
Sounds exciting, but no, I did not hear about this.
Would you like some more appeasement mr president?
https://beige.party/@Kierkegaanks/115921540283069548
The US is awesomely amazing at invading other countries. This is a simple fact sustained by history
Having said that
It's also a simple fact, sustained by history, that America suckw beyond badly at occupying conquered territories. Iraq, anyone? Afghanistan anyone?
And those had relatively easy climates. Greenland is a fucking horror show with which the US has little experience
Any occupation of Greenland by the US WILL fail eventually, the question is just how many US soldiers will have to die before it's decided that maybe just maybe this wasn't a good idea.
The only way it would could possibly work is a complete genocide, kill or forcibly remove ALL citizens. This of course would be a humanitarian catastrophe with very few examples in history, but I wouldn't put it past the cheeto.
This all goes to ignore people living in the US. If you invade Venezuela, Mexico, Canada, Greenland.... Do you really think that none of its citizens that currently live in the US might get ideas? Then what? You're going to round those all up too?
Once the US invaded one of its allies, the current administration will be over, it's just a matter of time before it will bleed to death
To paraphrase a cool movie: There is no winning move, except not to play
It depends what you count as winning. There are some who might consider "give yourself a country for your 80th birthday" the ultimate win, and not give much of a shit beyond that. As an example.
I see more of a Haiwai situation. Or do you not consider that occupied territory.
WarGames was a cool movie indeed.
There’s been so many “last straws” there’s not a camel out of traction in the whole world.
Yes! This is absolutely the last one! After all, in the last 19 days of the current year, he's behaved as a totally sane and not-unhinged person, right?
The last straw before what? What is supposed to happen when the camel's back breaks?
Some very angry tweets and some really pointed think pieces!
The final straw. After that maybe the ultimate straw! Heaven help us if we ever get to the terminal straw, that one’s a doozey!
Spontaneous combustion?
Bold of you to assume they'll give Greenlanders American citizenship, or even association status.
An excerpt from Hitler's Stalingrad Speech for reference:
This guy is beyond the mental degradation required to do his job and needs to removed from office now.
Note that the article is appealing to the Republicans to stop Trump. Tells you all you need to know about the efficacy of the Democrats in opposition.
What can democrats do? Republicans have control of every single part of government right now?
You do not know? Doing things that matter would be politically unfavorable.
The blue states have the power to hit back. Look at documents on the Nullification Crisis for additional context.
Thank you for this. TIL.
This won't change a thing.
The author is married to the polish minister of defense. Not that it matters, just a fun fact.
He's currently Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs.
And in case anyone reading takes her professional credentials to be "wife" instead of just taking it as a fun fact, she's a renowned journalist, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, and one of the world's most important experts on modern authoritarianism. wiki
Right, Foreign Affairs. I wasn't sure but don't care enough to double check :) As I said, just a fan fact. I knew she was a writer but I never saw her "in the wild".
Totally. It is a fun fact!
How will Vance be any better? That thirsty little shit might continue the exact same set of projects.
He might be better in being harder for MAGA cultists to like. But I'm not sure how much they care about being liked, when they're talking about simply cancelling elections.
I think Vance will be more consistent thus not giving politicians excuses to "wait and see". Right now the main tactic to deal with Trump seams to be "don't do anything, maybe he will forget about it in a couple of weeks". Maybe with Vance they will be forced to act instead of hoping problems will be solved by his dementia.
Might ? Might ?? Are you paying any attention at all ?
“Give me the Peace Prize or else I’ll invade other countries and start wars” sounds like something out of a sitcom.
In any sane country, sure, but we're well beyond that at this point.
It will be the last news article that historians can find of the times before that massive nuclear war that annihilated half the globe happened.
The Atlantic - a fundamental part of The Last Straw consortium within the MSM, providing the vital straws that keep the hope alive, that the exploitation is about to stop increasing.
Soooo... Trump can present all those documents when the settlers "bought" land from the native Americans? Or was it only, that some boats landed there hundreds of years ago?
None of the letter even matters to a fascist, it's all just words to distract and delay.
Might makes right is the only thing they understand.
Maybe the Americans were the evil Russians all along and the Russians are just soviets?
Straw? Seems it's more like a bunch of sledgehammers that won't break the camel's back.
The 25th amendment should be immediately invoked and Trump removed.
That has to be done by his cabinet.
The people who trip over themselves fondling his balls on live TV.
Only way a "25th amendment" happens on this fucker is if it plays out like it would in North Korea.
Article 2 section 4 removes him and his entire cabinet instead
Which would vastly preferable. I wish we could do that!
More evidence that there’s a black hole of shit calling itself Donald Trump, and absolutely nobody who has been pulled into his orbit cares about this, or even allegations that he raped little girls.
The thing we’re missing here is that while normal, well-adjusted, educated people who recognize the alarm bells of an elected official publishing gaffs and mistakes like these, the MAGA base frequently makes and overlooks these kinds of mistakes, overlooking them as inconsequential. We all do shit, but none of it matters if it’s done with charisma.
It’s like when a Gen-Z college intern reads an email from a Gen-X, C-Level boss that’s riddled with possessive apostrophes and misspellings and he wonders how someone who never achieved a commensurate literacy is promoted into that role. But it’s not a deal-breaker because his network of peers and competitive, extroverted personality are thought to keep the business thriving.
Jump ahead to a thriving workplace where the hardworking hourly employees show up everyday.
Jump to a Master’s graduate who vibe-authored all of his papers and never had to deal with minutia like punctuation in his resume.
Jump to a charismatic personality.
People can overlook a lot when they want you on their team.
It should be, but will it be?
So this is, what, the 329th 'last straw'? (just a number I plucked out of the air - it's probably way higher) Fuck me I'm sick of people treating this dickhead with kid gloves while he and his cronies run rough-shod over every institution. Grow a fucking backbone, America.
Unprecedented incompetence demands unprecedented removal. who's on our side? military used to be when i was in it back in the 80s. not sure anymore. hoping there are a few heros plotting before we have to witness the stupidest extinction event ever. there's a gold medal waiting. congress and scotus are compromised mostly. France drags out the guillotine quick.
"Should"
Jesus. What a waste of ink...
The Atlantic always manages to squeeze shitlib bullshit into every article, like this ridiculous Iraq War apologia. I see the source and I immediately know it's coming, every single time.
Do you have a brain injury?
No, I just don't like unprovoked wars of aggression and decades long occupations. Including when someone not named Trump is doing it, including when it happens to countries outside of the imperial core.
Man you are really searching for something here. Not sure what, but have at it!
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Clearly
The subtlety found was interesting discussion. Most people probably don't notice.
I don't get what you're saying. Was it the way language was used that was apologia? How did you figure that?
The implication is that the Iraqis were not forced into anything against their will, that the invasion and occupation was in their interests and for their benefit, and so this is dissimilar and the Greenlanders would resist harder than the Iraqis.
The reality is that the Iraq War was similar because they were both imperialistic wars of aggression for the purpose of seizing resources.
Ahhhh. Good catch!