Trump’s bizarre letter to Norway’s prime minister in full
Well...
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I know he's a buffoon, and yet I'm still amazed that this is the President of the United States of America. This is the writing style of an 8 year old!
That is the writing style of someone that doesn't know how anything works. Let alone understands any of it.
He knows enough that he is in power and he can do and say what he wants. His entire lifespan has taught him that reality will change to accomodate his wishes. and he is not wrong. So he doesn't have to know how anything works, it will work in his favour if he says so.
Terry Pratchett - Equal Rites
Dead on. What's this from?
The felicia day web series The Guild
Wil Wheaton is playing a villainous character who is paraphrasing Ayn Rand.
WHEEEAAAAATOOOOONNNNNN!!!!!!!
But someday his luck will run out! (just for one day God, please? Oh yeah there’s no God, drats)
"Wahhh, you didn't give me the Nobel Peace Prize, so now I'm making thinly veiled threats to invade our mutual ally. Also, look I got a FIFA peace prize and I stole a medal from the Nobel laureate."
Except he probably doesn't know the word laureate...
And there literally are documents recording Denmark's rights to Greenland. But by trump's logic of "Only cause boats landed there a few hundred years ago," I guess the US doesn't have rights to the land it's on?
Also, trump has done nothing for NATO except weaken it. Other NATO countries are gearing up their commitments in spite of him, not because of him.
Why? when did he knew? Same way goes for the way he speaks and what he says, lies that does not correspond to reality or truth.
Seems like he missed the basics principles (again). Even if the Norwegian government would, they could not do it. It's not up to them ...... "Nobel Prizes are assigned by various committees depending on the category"
Well, if these committees were in the USA, the government (i.e. Trump) could and would decide who gets the Nobel Prizes.
As is customary in autocratic banana republics.
The Nobel committee does have politicians on the peace part. Which is a big mistake, as they've made a string of awful decisions. The entire committee has no credibility in the reality based community, thinking Obama, an institutionalist, would deserve it. Then aiby ahmed, su kyi, now a zionist at the tail end of a two year long final solution for their ghetto, lashing out at all of their neighbors under false pretexts with their overwhelming military advantage. That also advocated for a us backed coup of her own country.
A coup that happened already, the military made a deal clearly, they let the helicopters through, the US wouldn't have tried that mission if they had not gave up intel and agreed to stand down. The army is the de facto ruler, will oversee the now puppet civilian government signing over assets and concessions and after resistance forms to wholesale oil drilling for foreign interests sees attacks on oil infrastructure and what have you, the army will get into atrocities, and if history is any guide establish paramilitaries to do the dirty work they don't want to do directly, like run death squads through villages to collectively punish them, paid for by black market drug and weapon sales.
I mention this, because that is the legacy of this nobel prize, that is what will result from the coup she advocated. The nobel committee is beyond a joke, might as well have given it to the president at this point.
He assumes
kingspresidents can do whatever they want, just like him.And Greenland is not owned by Norway, so what does he expect Norway to do? Issue him a "Super Special Big Boy Trophy"?
This reads like a transcription of an argument I would have on a contry RP server on Discord. And I wouldn't be winning.
This alone should cause an immediate invocation of the 25th amendment. It's not the writing of an 8 year old, it's the writing of a dementia patient.
I have zero doubts that the president of Norway would write a more coherent letter in English
I think the average Norwegian 8 year old could
I thought this message was a troll. How wrong I was.
Trump is a troll.
Not really. Trolls tend to play stupid in order to pull your leg and/or enrage you, most often for a laugh.
Trump means it. He is just an incredibly stupid and equally spoiled manchild.
He already has 2 peace prices why does he need another?
No peace prize, so I don't want to do peace anymore!
Asbuser "look what you made me do" energy. If he had been given it (he's already been given 2 non-participation trophies) it would have been "this can't be a war because I have a Peace Prize. This is necessary for peace."
My thoughts exactly.
Remember: there can’t be a woman in office because they get too emotional.
That was the explanation they used when being openly racist was not socially acceptable. We are way past that.
USA, please, unfuck yourself.
Or just fuck yourselves in private and leave the rest of us out of it.
Masturbate Alone Go Away
They should just have their internal civil war and stop trying to drag us all into the WW3 with them. At least the world after the big war will be cool. Waiting to see how China and others will draw the new world map after they win.
USians spent three years all over Reddit claiming that Russians should've protested against Putin, and that would solve the problem of Putin's dictatorship. Oddly these claims became quieter once Trump was inaugurated.
Let's see how this protesting thing works out for them. Don't forget that in their own words, everyone in the country is responsible for Trump's actions, and they all should suffer if he turns out to be bad for other countries too.
No, you see "the entire world has a far right problem" so they don't have to do anything themselves.
Also "what are you doing to stop it" ie. Why isn't someone else stopping this for me?
Build up your military and overthrow our government. I am not joking, relying on us to unfuck ourselves is a gigantic gamble I don’t think you should take.
That would be doing exactly what you did to Venezuela, which many people decried. Not to mention Trump will die before anybody has armed forces strong enough to even think about it.
You voted him in you get rid of him, there is no other way.
OK just keel over and die then? let Russia take Poland and the US take Greenland. They’ll certainly stop there!
If you think this is over when Trump dies, you’re not paying attention.
False dilemma. There is still many options between removing presidents by force and keeling over and letting anybody take our countries.
How come I don't see you overthrowing Putin in Russia?
Trying, but things are pretty stuck here now.
At least one media outlet that calls this out as bizarre. Meanwhile others are just paraphrasing the Annoying Orange's deranged ramblings as if they were something a normal person would say.
Billionaire owned media corps are cancer.
It's a good indicator which media is worth reading.
The nytimes basically surrendered this term. Their reporting is quite subservient, they had problems before in his first term, but they now have no courage to break any big stories, sanewash his comments on stuff like this, and otherwise do not call the administration out honestly. Less so than before.
Israel's reprisals against their ghettos and wars with neighbors broke their brains, and I'm not certain the editors and owners themselves aren't on the epstein tapes fucking children, that might be held by the president's own fixers as well as israeli intelligence.
german media also called it "wirr". Which is even better since it also implies cognitive disabilities on the side of Trump.
Yes, some German media, for the largest part, they are also still stuck in the good old routine of pretending that he is just a normal person saying and doing normal things, though.
The media being complicit is really bad.
The fact that this isn’t the Onion is insane.
What concerns me is that with all these letters, statements and actions (and with America 250 coming up), it is becoming very difficult to imagine that he would back down. The situation is dire.
How many wars are "8 wars PLUS"? Can he count beyond 8?
And seriously, is this all aboul that Nobel Prize? Is he throwing a hissy fit just because he couldn't win it?
America, you better do something with your senile president, because your reputation was already low before him but right now you are just drilling into the ground to find if rock-bottom is truly the bottom.
He's pissed he didn't get it. But if he had gotten it, he would have found another "reason" to throw a tantrum. And it wouldn't help Greenland, as long as some of the filthy rich people have an interest in it - "freedom cities" where they can live their liberitarian dreams.
He’s pissed because Obama got one. We can’t forget that one (of many other) foundational reasons for Trump to run for president was because Obama mocked him at a dinner party. And if Obama was a 2-term president with a Nobel Prize, Trump wants to outdo him. Purely because Trump is a man child racist
And a child rapist.
So it IS Obama's fault after all! /s
And what does Norway have to do with Greenland?
Isn't it obvious? If those filthy norwegians would have given him the prize, he wouldn't have any reasons to think of war.
I think it's obvious, he can't be a peace president withowt the peace prize.
"Look what they are going to make me do! It's all your fault that I'm gonna use violence against you!". Trump, probably.
Damn Treaty of Kiel!!
Palestine, syria, lebanon, yemen, iran, then palastine again, yemen again, syria again. How many is that?
He will really sell it for next year if he makes good on his threats, he will be able to stop new wars in colombia, venezuela, cuba, mexico, canada, and denmark.
no
It's a beautiful letter, literally every sentence is factually incorrect, and once he runs out of wrong things to say, he ends it. *Chefs kiss*
It's the lack of respect. "Dear Jonas..." Not, "Dear Prime Minister", or "Dear Sir..." He'd lose his s**t if he was just referred to as "Dear Donald"
He lost his shit when Trudeau did that.
This is the kind of petty logic you'd expect from a schoolchild.
It also reveals something chilling about his power-oriented world view: In Trump's mind, there is no such thing as an 'independent committee' that the Norwegian government might defer to regarding who gets the nobel peace price. He presumes that of course any government could seize the authority to influence who gets the price, so the Norwegian government's obvious decision not to intervene in Trump's favour is implicitly seen as a decision against Trump. In Trump's mind, there are no rules and there is no such thing as a pluralistic society that practices self-restraint and shares power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_theory
The billionaires in the US can push for an impeachment at any time. Can we please figure out what is actually happening that requires this deception?
A fascist transformation of the government to make burgerland a dictatorship?
Might be that, might be the child rapist being senile... The possibilities are endless.
Some people know, either because they are good analysists or because they are close to power. How can we make their voices be heard?
The people who know are either paying for this to happen or being paid by the former to make this happen.
What happened in that country was a coup. But instead of one in which they throw the frog into boiling water, they threw the froo into lukewarm water and are heating it slowly.
I'm worried that if the people don't maket this burst into an insurrection (that might very well end in civil war), they'll get a christofascist state by the end of the year.
Do the Democrats behave as if a coup had happened? How about the billionaires?
The billionaires are the ones paying for it. The democrats... they are getting paid to let it happen.
Some billionaires - obviously, but all billionaires? How does the US plan to stay number one if Europe, like Canada, has to cooperate with China to balance the power of the US? The China containment strategy or even a war against China can't work like that.
I thought that will be a long read but it looks like a stubborn kid has written it.
Good job US Americans who voted for this. /s
I just can’t believe how fucking stupid that manchild could be. It’s unbelievable and think about all those people who voted for him!
Its even worse when you live surrounded by them and your kids go to school with their kids...
Compare with Jefferson's letter to Adams on the matter of the Barbary states ...
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-10-02-0058
Trump writes - and thinks! - like a young and petulant schoolchild in comparison with Jefferson.
Trump is an abusive narcissistic psychopath. When he says he didn't prop up the Venezuelan opposition leader because she didn't give him the Nobel peace price (until recently), when he says he no longer thinks of peace because he wasn't awarded it, he's basically saying "look at what you made me do". Stop pampering the American psychopath.
appeasement has never, and will never, work(ed)
You forgot pedophile rapist
This guy's brain turned to swiss cheese long ago.
Did you know it's illegal to say
https://feddit.org/post/24549313/11051419
Only if you're American.
Hmm. It would avert the coming whatever over Greenland, but his successor might be equally fascist and not as dumb.
Once there's a Democratic speaker, that might be worth something. Right now...
This shit is getting scary.
"I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding"
Trump claim to have done for NATO more than any other person since its founding yet some people here call him out for being anti NATO. NATO does what US say, be aware of what's happening and don't get fooled.
I think he meant "to" he is definitely on that shortlist.
Perhaps if we all join in prayer (In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti, amen) this menace will go away?
And shepherds we shall be...
For Thee, My Lord, for Thee.
I understand the anger but I request people to still follow the rules when comment in this group and on reddit. Comments that contain incitement to crimes, r*pe apologia and so on will be deleted. Please vent your anger differently.
America democratically elected this chud. His moves appear to be about creating some sort of legacy that we'll all look back on fondly one day. He craves a peace prize and when it doesn't arrive he proceeds to threaten the committee. Delusional doesn't come close to explaining this pathology.
Mask off empire phase should be interesting.
I've been living through interesting times since the creative demolition of the twin towers non-stop. I think I can safely say that I don't want any more interesting times, thank you.
I would be less surprised to see that letter written in crayon than on presidential stationary
So now I have to wonder: what is he doing this to hide now?
Edit: also, can the aliens please take over now? At least just the US? I think us humans have shown we can't handle this on our own.
Here to make heads or tails from all this we're interviewing Mr Ant!
Hello Mr.Ant, what will you do in response to all this?
Mr. Ant( in pheromones): I don't know, I'm just an ant, I didn't vote for all this. Exact translation: Save queen, bring food!
I guess the solution to the Greenland Crisis then is: lets give him the Prize in reyurn of another TACO.