Spyke
lemmy.world

Calling for trials is a veiled threat? Fuck everyone involved with this administration.

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Yes, because that is how the administration uses it, knowing the trials would not be fair or just.

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ripcordreply
lemmy.world

I have yet to see anything that shows what her tweets were. Is it in the article but I'm missing it because I block Twitter?

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

I block Twitter too so I'm going by what the article says.

He asked her again what she meant by the comment, and she made it clear she was talking about officials having Nuremberg-style tribunals for those who enabled unlawful behavior.

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

I think the point is that she's not calling for anything extrajudicial but they're still coming by to intimidate her.

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But without being able to see the tweets I don't really know what they said. Just someone else's description of what she said her intent was.

I'm sure it's still not justified but if they started with "string them all up" or something it's a bit different.

Just being picky about, you know, knowing what the actual details are.

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I guess they thought "lock them up!" would have been more appropriate? Due process is the worst, I guess

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He asked her again what she meant by the comment, and she made it clear she was talking about officials having Nuremberg-style tribunals for those who enabled unlawful behavior.

They are preparing for the pendulum. Once they've trashed cities and ripped apart families, they want to make sure anyone brave enough to hold them accountable is silenced.

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lemmy.world

Lol can't wait to see them at my door. I'm calling for the hanging them all and ice.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

Do it in the fash social media town square with an identifiable name and they will. Do it here where only we will largely see and they won't care. Until the rest of the world and the United States wakes up and ditches these fascist platforms. The fascists will gleefully use them as easy surveillance and intimidation.

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piefed.social

If you think they're not monitoring the fediverse, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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The fediverse from my experience is so left leaning that just by simply existing on it I would presume means you're on a list for those in power.

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Oh sure. But they have to work for it here. Generally people aren't directly personally identifiable here. Or the system scanning and reporting to them.

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lemmy.world

One thing that Trump's 2nd term has made crystal clear is that pretty much all levels of law enforcement are just filled with bootlickers.

Has there been even a case of one department or union siding WITH THE PEOPLE???

Or are they all just authoritarian living assholes?

We also need more liberals going into law enforcement, we've completely seeded those jobs to bullies and morons that get off on abusing power.

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You don't go into law enforcement thinking you won't be shooting someone in your career. You have to want to use force on people and abandon empathy for humans just trying to survive.

Liberals are ill-equipped and it's antithetical to the left.

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TrickDacyreply
lemmy.world

Yep. It feels just like politics. All the asshole pieces of shit keep the decent humans from wanting to be in those fields.

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lemmy.world

A former buddy of mine joined local LE some years back. They tormented and hazed the hell outta him until he was forced to move to another precinct.
And then it happened again.
Nowadays, he toes the line and has a LOT of really worrying opinions on a lot of things, but he has the respect of his coworkers now.

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lemmy.world

I thought secret service only visited those who make violent threats against the president.

This seems new.

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The party of “nothing to hide, nothing to worry about” sure really doesn’t want anyone looking into their stuff haha

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I think it falls more precisely under “you don’t respect my authority I’m not going to respect your humanity.”

There are plenty of times a refusal to comply is a form of violence and I don’t want to give them any undue credit.

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It's old, but he just realized this while watching the Ayatollah.

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lemmy.world

I'm too want to see trials for Trump officials. In the Hague.

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Well if somehow law and order stands when this fascist party falls from power. I want to see every congressmember, and white house seated posting tried for treason. If they voted for something or publicly supported something they knew was false or damning to the population, they should be found guilty. And since we haven't waved the death penalty, I think we should encourage them to remove it.

If they approve the removal of green cards, we should remove all citizenship from their bloodline. It's what they want, take the trash out

(Also yes, many Democrats will be found guilty as well, your votes should forever be public. You are a representative, a civil servant, you are supposed to be a slave to the population, not the other way around)

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I'd be happy with Nuremberg too, as they love fascism that much, lets give them another piece of it.

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BanMereply
lemmy.world

Yeah but I hope they all die.

Come on Secret Service, come after this white, cornfed Iowa boy, it'll look great in the headlines. Whit privilege on the line, fat fucks.

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Even insinuating that the law should apply to rich fascists is illegal now. All hail the mobster crime lords, may they live to lie, cheat and steal for all ethernity. Blessings.

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I'd like to see the official GOP sponsors of deportations without Due Process deported without Due Process.

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jimreply

Say that again with your license photo ;)

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lemmy.world

Just a reminder - I'm sure Kamala's admin would have been just as bad in every way. But at least under Taco, no one is getting killed in Gaza, right?

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Garbage article is garbage.

In July 2022, about 18 months after Biden became president, a regional Secret Service office requested that agents conduct a “preliminary protective intelligence investigation” targeting the Maine man, an Army veteran, for one or more posts on Twitter.

They then show the evidence sheet, and the guy was calling current or former phone numbers of Biden's family, and when he posted that response on Twitter, it was a reply to a post that said "what illegal things are you doing Friday night?"

Keep in mind, that this is all shortly after a bunch of armed maga chuds tried to overthrow the country. So all in, we have repetitive antagonism through different means, making a specific threat, and a history of this kind of activity in the past.

The whole article is based on documents that the Heritage foundation FOIA'd and released. I trust those guys even less that I trust the current government.

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lemmy.world

LOL, it's a cult to point out how dumb it is/was to maintain that Donvict and Kamala are virtually the same?

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mika_mikareply
lemmy.world

No one was saying that they are the same. Every one you're referring to just wanted the Democrats to stand for something. Sorry being against genocide was too much to ask for. Now we are stuck in this and it's the fault of everyone behind the Harris campaign and those who supported it.

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We all wanted Democrats to stand for something, we just didn't burn the country to the ground when the candidate wasn't perfect

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Trying to explain anything to people with this mentality is a lost cause. Unprincipled people simply can not understand principled people.

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Every one you’re referring to just wanted the Democrats to stand for something.

Yeah, nearly everyone that voted Democratic wanted that, too. But some others decided to sit out/vote for someone else.

That sure helped.

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Mîmreply
lemmy.zip

Ah, still can't comprehend why your team lost.

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Mîmreply
lemmy.zip

Yes. Because that's exactly how man of y'all are treating this.

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Really impressed by the projection here bud. Keep it up, normal folks pick up on it and that's helpful.

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What, she didn't use her broom as a deadly weapon, making them fear for their lives?

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

On one hand I feel a bit for this guy. He knows it's bullshit as much as she does. But on the other hand, he's still doing it for the pay check so fuck him. It's gotta be degrading. But it's amazing what people will ignore to maintain an appearance of stability.

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pageflightreply
piefed.social

Making worthless widgets for corporate overlords for a paycheck? Sure, I sympathize. Taking other's livelihoods, safety, and comfort so you can have your own? Nope.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

The problem is. When it comes to authoritarian states of any flavor, capitalist or otherwise. It all starts to become the same thing. Where were the resources for the widgets unfairly extracted from. And how exploited are the ones making them. But absolutely yeah.

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Yep. Was it Marx — "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism"?

Tangent but maybe not actually Marx:

The phrase has been around in political circles and on the internet for decades, and it doesn’t appear to have a single originator. It is widely believed to be an amalgamation of ideas from Karl Marx, simmered down into a phrase that people can easily remember.

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Eldritchreply
piefed.world

Yes, probably just a bad choice of words on my part. More that I think we can identify with going through any bullshit motions just to satisfy some body somewhere, just to get by. But just not as a tool of the state to threaten citizens wellbeing. Fuck that shit.

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You and me both. Though I will say this. Those leaving, especially the attorneys won't be replaced so easily. Fighting from the inside still often entails carrying out the violence of the state. But if they could organize mass resignations as a show of solidarity. It would definitely do more good than a slow rotting. But not being a part of it is still good.

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I want Trump arrested and put in jail. Can't wait to see it happen. I wouldnt recommend a visit Mr SS ... my state has some really fucking wild castle laws.

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I want to see trials in front of the international criminal court, and I want to see impeachments and trials at home. I want JUSTICE for the countless laws broken.

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There should be trials, and when they're found guilty of sedition and treason, they should rot in prison.

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lemmy.world

That human thumb is Secret Service?

looks like they're using ICE's hiring standards

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lemmy.world

The only prereq for SS now is that you can stand to be locked in an airtight vehicle for extended periods with the human rotbag. Even his "wife" can't stand to be in the same car as him.

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This administration is openly hostile to American citizens. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to have a president who only serves the people who voted for him deserves to reap what they sow.

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Remember when it was easy to compare anyone who supported Trump to a Nazi? Now, it's an insult to Nazis.

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I want these Nazi put on trial here and then sent to the hauge for another trial

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Cool, might as well come visit me to since I think trials sound FAR to nice for that fat nazi fuck

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lemmy.zip

Secret Service are the chillest of all the services.

NGL, I know there's a ton of hate for everything government at this time, but I worked with them decades ago when I did union stagehand work setting up for Presidential debates.

They aren't particularly motivated by politics, since their two main tasks are protecting money (figuratively via fraud crimes and literally in the sense of maintaining awareness of currency supplies when its transferred around the country or the globe) and politicians and foreign diplomats.

Many of them get called up for duty protecting people they may personally loathe, and they do it nonetheless.

God knows I saw some of that in action with how the agents treated the college kids that were running the various campaign events.

To wit: We're setting up at one stop and the managing director is some 24 year old poli-sci major with ZERO understanding of safety and security and even less of stage construction, set design and dressing ("No.. move this here.." and then 20 minutes later.. "No.. move that back and put the other piece there..." and by this time we've spent nearly double the amount of time as normal to set the stage and press risers and are ready to kill ourselves in frustration..) and the agents are telling us how far to put up stanchions and what exists must be kept clear, and we're doing it and in comes the kid all hot and bothered saying "..No, no no.. this isn't right.. THEY - the candidate - wont' like it this way, they want a grand entrance.." and the agent stares them down and says, "I don't care what they want, this is what it is going to be.."

All the candidates campaign managers - Republicn or Democrat - acted this way. Miserable shits. They were getting their marching orders from the politicians themselves. It sucked.

So it was was delightful to see them get taken down a few notches by Secret Service. Also on another setup for Obama, one of our lead upriggers - a notorious drunk - got similarly frustrated in a similar situation and threateed to get a gun and start shooting.. Within earshot of a TV news crew. Half an hour later Secret Service shows up and the BA (business agent) for the Local pulls us all together to "get the story straight" to tell the agents, and I cut her short and said.. "Nope.. He's a drunk, we're pissed at the idiots running this setup and I'm not lying or distorting what he said.." And she kinda agreed and we all just vented at the agents about the campaign managers and that yeah.. uprigger is a massive dick and a raging drunk and miserable - we all are - but we want to ge this done so Obama can come in and speak.

They went to his house and talked to his wife and asked if there was a gun in the house and she replied she'd made him sell the pistol he'd bought a few years earlier. He was put permanently off the political jobs and sent home. (I knew his wife and I can only imagine the firworks when he got home AFTER he'd spent the remainder of the day drinking himself blind at the Elks Lodge he was a member at.)

Secret Service.. man, they could have been waay bigger dicks than they were (and they were totally ok), and seeing the shit they put up with from the politicians directly, was an eye opener.

They are different than what one expects, that's for sure. NGL, Secret Service are the last people I'd be worried about, they're never unprofessional. (which at time boggles the mind as they're often treated like shit by the politicians who can be fucking ungrateful..) They aren't ICE.

Personally I'd love to see a Trump trial or even better, Steven Miller.

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sh.itjust.works

I know there’s a ton of hate for everything government at this time, but I worked with them decades ago when I did union stagehand work setting up for Presidential debates.

The Secret Service of today is not the one you worked with decades ago. Trump corrupts everything he touches.

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This is what I was going to say. It's one thing to hold your nose and do your job to protect prominent politicians, but Trump would never be satisfied with just professionalism. He demanded absolute loyalty over all else, which is why in my opinion the attempt in Butler was as close as it was - he clearly surrounded himself with people who were pro-Trump first and USSS agents second. Incompetent fools who didn't even bother to set up a perimeter or secure the site where he was speaking. Their only qualities are their willingness to swear fealty to Trump and nothing else.

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foodandartreply
lemmy.zip

I don't know if that is true.

The guy who is the director now is a longtime agent that was on Presidential duty for Obama - he joined when Bush was President. Long term knowledge and skill is an actual asset for this agency that any politican who wants to stay safe understands..

It's different than other agencies.

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foodandartreply
lemmy.zip

That would have been under the direction of James Murray, who left under the cloud of suspicion regarding those deletions, and yet the Biden Administration found nothing actionable to prosecute for, after their investigation concluded. (in point of fact, apparently Murray stayed on at his job until the investigations were concluded, so he did NOT cut and run..)

It's not like there isn't a level of independence tied to the professionalism that - again - is something that the politicans and diplomats don't want to fuck with.

This gets back to the agents being willing to put down their lives for people they may loathe.

I've talked at length to Secret Service agents in my time working with them. The whole service is a different level of dedication.

And let's just leave it at that, as you're gonna want to act as if the quid pro quos they give - and get - are indicative of something that only one party that requires their protections, deals with.

I can guarantee you that even if we got the most socially progressive, honest, leftist government in the world, the basic policy of the Secret Service would remain unchanged.

They're really not interested in bloviating hens that rant on social media. My bet is that some Trump staffer saw the post and cried like a bitch to a Secret Service liason and they were ordered to go out and check for "terrorists"..

Manbaby Don-don and his peevishly thin skin wants everyone to love and kiss him and offer him hugs and praise after all..

Secret Service really don't give a shit because the threats they look out for today aren't the ones that are advertised.

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foodandartreply
lemmy.zip

Now, now.. let's not be a male chauvinist pig and think everyone on the internet's got a big swinging cod between their legs.. in my case, you should have written

..sure thing, "nattering hen".

(FYI you can even call me a cunt if it makes you feel better.. I'm old enough to honestly not give a shit. Knock yourself out.)

LOL!

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They’re really not interested in bloviating hens that rant on social media.

do you REALLY think all the 'bloviating hens' as YOU put it were all female?

that's an assumption on your part.

I stick with my thesis, jibbering cock.

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sh.itjust.works

Fact: The SS deleted all text messages related to January 6th. They would have no reason to do so unless they had something huge to hide, like knowingly supporting an insurrection.

Fiction: Your fabulist claims that you're knowledgeable about what the organization is today despite the fact your experience with them is decades old. Your experience is so far out of date that your claims are laughable.

BTW - "bloviating hens" is cute, but you should really look up the word "bloviating" before using it in your name-calling routine.

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So to recap - according to you the SS agents actually involved in the insurrection are blameless and get a pass simply because someone else helped covered it up. Got it.

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He was shocking chill and backed off immediately when she pushed back. That's surprising.

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This dude doesn't look like Secret Service at all. The source is a Leftist fox-news-like, for profit website with info sourced from Elon Musks Grifter Farm (X), of all places.

This really the news and sources we're accepting here? Just so we can make circle-jerk comments?

And ya know what, Ima be real and take it even further because it's a trend I'm seeing. A site with low-effort Quality Assurance is prone to be infiltrated by agitators trying to disguise themselves as in groups both for profit and division politics - this is one of those sites and sources. It's shoddy journalism from a for-profit "journalism" aggregator meant to incite anger and promote interaction, and Lemmy is full of this shit.

I mean hell, the commenters just eat it up too. Jumps in to repeat the same sentiment as all the other commentors in different formats. Lemmy has got to keep the content cycling somehow I guess, nobody is getting on Reddit case for the same bullshit, so I guess it can fly here?

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Of course...a desire for action taken through the legal system (at least implying due process) and of which she has she zero control over is categorized as a "veiled threat". Meanwhile there's actual sitting republicans suggesting that brutalizing or even killing protesters is cool but lol no that's not a veiled threat! That's freedom of speech! It's so pathetic.

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lemmy.ml

If the threats against greenland dont stop i vote for attacks against US americans everywhere in the world.

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lemmy.world

Terrible, terrible suggestion, to the point of arousing suspicion that you may be from one of those bot farms made to antagonize and sow discord.

The kind of people who voted the Trump administration into power (regular voters, I mean, not the propagandists and billionaire class) are not travellers. Travel and bigotry are mutually exclusive (generally speaking, of course exceptions do exist). People who have curiosity about the wider world and interest in other cultures are overwhelmingly leftist. Even to suggest attacking them is extremely counter productive and would only cause more Americans to stay home and devolve into conservatives. Americans abroad already know their country is a shitshow and deserve sympathy, not aggression.

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I wonder if those people i should Show sympathy to are doing something against the Nazi Party.

You only need 3% of the Population to win a Revolution. Well i guess even the good US americans dont do shit

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Kick them out, sure, but attacking people randomly because of their nationality is dumb

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lemmy.zip

You're a bad person. You don't attack the victims just because they share a characteristic with the abuser.

Dumbass

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spionspionreply
lemmy.ml

I bet german Tourists were mad that they couldnt travel anymore after they voted for Hitler

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You get that less than a third of the country voted for this jagoff right? You're attacking the victims, thinking you're striking a blow to the Nazi party members. Dumbass

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SkunkWorkzreply
lemmy.world

Well now you know how Iraqis and Afghans feels. Guess you thought it was okay when Muslim terrorists killed innocent Europeans.

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spionspionreply
lemmy.ml

Ofc its OK when American tourists get attacked in muslim countries the USA is terrorizing.

Do you think germans were Welcome abroad in ww2

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