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AOC Slams Operation To Capture Maduro: 'It's About Oil And Regime Change'

"It's not about drugs. If it was, Trump wouldn't have pardoned one of the largest narco traffickers in the world last month. It's about oil and regime change. And they need a trial now to pretend that it isn't. Especially to distract from Epstein + skyrocketing healthcare costs," she claimed in a social media publication.

AOC Slams Operation To Capture Maduro: 'It's About Oil And Regime Change'https://www.latintimes.com/aoc-slams-operation-capture-maduro-its-about-oil-regime-change-593171Open linkView original on reddthat.com
lemmy.world

Yes Trump literally said in his speech that's what it's about, they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

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lemmy.world

Shit, pretty sure he's on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

He wants a regime change eventually, and so does the money behind him.

But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

That's why he's doing this, holding onto political power is the golden goose. Not even trump is dumb enough to kill and eat the goose. As we get closer to elections, we'll see him pass on money if it means holding onto power longer. But if midterms happen and he loses the House, that's a lot of lost power, which means less money from bribes/grifts.

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lemmy.myserv.one

Shit, pretty sure he’s on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

The craziest and saddiest part of this theory most people were alive when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Those elections were never cancelled.

If the US does proceed with a full on invastion of Venezuela. Trumpie tells everyone that the elections has to be cancelled. There is a going to be sizeable part of the population that is going "Yeah, cancelling the elections during a war makes sense". Even though most of them were alive during the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions.

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lemmy.world

Eh.

Cancelling elections would be the precipitator to get a 1/6 type of thing, except this time against trump. Not to mention the few high ranking military who didn't resign, have already shown their not cowards.

trump assumes everyone against him left, but the only people who left were cowards who didn't deserve to put a uniform on

Anyone that's not with trump and stayed, will likely see cancelled elections as the last opportunity to act. It won't be fun, but that's less a line in sand, and more the foundation this country was built on.

I really don't see even his biggest supporters defending cancelled elections. Especially with how much worse things are gonna be by even midterms

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lemmy.zip

I mean historically revolutions commonly involve military defectors/coups. No garuntee that will happen though

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No guarantee it won't involve another person stepping up against trump, seizing power and then holding onto it. Usually that's how that happens

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lemmy.world

He's not going to cancel elections. He doesn't need to do it. He can delay results claiming fraud or not even that, just ignore the Congress.

And maybe he won't even need to do that. Just purge voters, strict voting laws enforcement, gerrymandering, just plain voter fraud.

And maybe he won't even need to do that, because republicans may still keep both houses without any fraudulent activity. Yes. There is a good chance that happens. You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

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lemmy.world

You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

Weird to remind people of this, but real life still exists bro...

And wherever you're reading about what they think, I bet a billionaire owns it.

Why do you only find out about them thru billionaires?

You do realize the billionaires don't give a fuck about either group, and have been putting us against each other for generations and doing everything possible to segregate us?

Like, these all feel like very basic questions, and I'm probably coming off condescendingly, but there's some very important things we need to clear up here, and it seems like we need to start at a basic level.

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The real world is influenced with what billionaires project. It's not separated.

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Magats are composed of 2 groups of people. Morons and scumbags. That's it. Nothing else. And they're are all over social media praising their orange shitler.

They won't catch on till they end up like the VnJ in Nazi Germany in the 30s.

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lemmy.world

There's no provision in US law for suspension of elections. No matter what we hold elections. Now they'll certainly be ratfucked to hell and back but any suspension of elections will be totally illegal.

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feddit.dk

Problem is, it wouldn't be the first thing that it totally and obviously illegal, that still gets done with 0 conequenses for the fascist.

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I know, but they'd literally have to cite a foreign country's laws as the justification like scrotus did pulling from english common law to nix Dobbs.

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lemmy.zip

I don’t think even MAGA lets him get away with that. This is America and we have elections! We fuckin don’t vote in them but we have em, god dammit

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They'll let him get away with it, because they're all going to lose their seats. The US has been taken over by a dictator. Our only hope is invasion.

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Well if you’re a fascist who doesn’t care about blending of the state with capital then it’s a pretty strong argument.

They did sign contracts, let American companies build a bunch of infrastructure, then seized it at gunpoint.

Iran, Iraq, etc done similar things, but Venezuela is pretty unique in that it lost the international legal cases and still refused to pay retribution.

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She's an intelligent, well thought out person but no one deserves that kind of fanaticism.

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reddthat.com

A special military operation to overthrow a government that takes less than 3 days, only a few hours to be precise..... Must be hard to see others achieve that when you are not even close to that at day nr. 1,409.

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So, I in no way support what the USA has just done (essentially forced vassilisation of another nation to appease oil magnates), but god damn that comment was funny.

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This reminds me of Bush standing on an aircraft carrier with a "Mission Accomplished" banner behind him. Trump says he's gonna run Venezuela and seize their oil. The violence is only just beginning.

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We have yet to see if it overtrhows the Venezuelan government, so far it appears to be fairly stable without Maduro.

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At no point in Russia's modern history have they had any problem whatsoever with being hypocrites.

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sh.itjust.works

If I was a conspiracy theorist I might think that Putin was in on this, ie: Venezuela's VP in Russia at the exact same time Trump attacks -- and her brother, the head of the national assembly, is supposedly in Caracas but hasn't been seen since the attack.

I'd be very surprised if either one makes it out of this alive.

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lemmy.world

I would expect the VP to be set up as a puppet leader, with her brother as a hostage to force her cooperation.

Edit: Looks like she might not be cooperating.

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She isn't. Sad to say but she may find herself falling out a window or meeting a "Ukrainian" car bomb soon.

We are so fucked as a world right now.

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He's kind of busy on his 3-day-special-military-operation that is already taking 1,409 days. Russia would probably collapse.

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He was never Pro-US. He just buttered up Trump for a bit to get what he wanted.

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Nah, Trump is just really gullible and in charge of a large amount of geopolitical and economic power so it makes sense for Putin to act like his friend.

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venezuela is a putin ally, he did the same for iran too, remember when iran was bombed israel, putin immediately used his troll farms to attack trump.

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lemmy.world

It's not just about oil, its about sour crude oil.

USA is an oil exporter. Why does it need more oil? The answer is, it doesn't. But US oil companies need sour crude oil for their refineries, built during the 70's and 80's to refine exactly the kind of oil produced in Venezuela. Not designed to refine the shale oil produced in the fracking boom.

It's all about the oil companies margins, and it will be paid for in American and Venezuelan blood. Because why pay to refit your refineries when human lives and presidencies are so cheap?

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programming.dev

it's only sour in the beginning... it tasted like regular oil after the initial sensation.

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lemmy.world

“Slams” omg this needs to stop. “AOC says the Truth Out loud.”

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Even trump, for once, said the truth out loud

We're going to have our very large United States oil companies (...) go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure (...) Let's start making money

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At least they've stopped writing "mic drop" for this shit. Politician says thing about other politician; no action taken

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No, you see, SLAM is actually an acronym.

Speaks Loudly About Matters.

Suddenly Lambasts Apparent Misconduct.

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lemmy.zip

Anyone else getting sick of the word "slams" in headlines? She posted online on social media. Yes she's right but this "slams" thing is really getting old.

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That would be doing something much more impactful than just posting on social media.

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I don't really care about what synonym they use for criticize but half of the comments being whining about it gets annoying.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Do people criticizing AOC have any idea how limited a house members direct power is. The most impactful thing she can do from her seat on a regular basis is normalize the contempt. She’s not even a senator ffs. I really hope we’re able to rally against the hateful bigots. This country is a mess and full of dumbass tools blissfully ignorant to reality in every corner.

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Yeah like, I'll friggin take it, all the power to that fierce woman! Maybe she can't directly fix everything, but you're right, people discount the fact that her outspoken truth to power can embolden dissent.

Eventually that fury has the power to change minds, and some of those minds can directly do something about this. (Especially if their constituents pressure them enough and don't give them any wiggle room.)

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I think most of us realize that she is a token FDR New Deal Democrat, with no actual power. She's like a release valve for citizens to cheer for. SHE GETS IT, etc.

There are always a few, they provide cover for big money leadership like Schumer (who is NOT a new deal democrat, he's like a 90s Republican)

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You Should Know: The "Cartel de las Soles" isn't actually a real cartel.

See, the Venezuelan military uses a sun insignia for generals, where the US military uses a star. A journalist invented the term in 1993 to talk about corruption in the Venezuelan military. Get it? All the members of this "cartel" wear suns. But, it's not a real cartel. Not everybody who wears a sun (i.e. is a general) is necessarily involved in crimes, and those that are aren't necessarily working together.

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You hear that everybody? She slammed it. It's been slammed. It's ok, no need to panic, everybody knows everything's fine as long as it gets slammed. No need for any further action here; it's been slammed.

Slam.

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lemmy.world

Turns out Ghina got really good at renewables while we were deliberately looking away. And Ghina is too big to invade. Guess we'll have to double down on oil. And somehow these guys have more oil than the Saudis. Not for long...

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Lol, I assumed it might besome sort of euphemism/self-censorship like "unalive" and "🍇". But I don't think Trump pronounces it like that, he kind of pronounces the 'ch' more "sharply", so to say, but he doesn't outright make it voiced.

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lemmy.world

Venezuela has the largest heavy crude oil reserves, which is the type that America can refine with its own refineries. Shale crude or light/medium crude are harder for the US to refine and sell.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Not exactly. Yes, US refineries are set up to handle heavy sour crude and would have to be updated to handle light sweet crude US produces.

But the light sweet crude is easier to process and that's also makes it more expensive. So US was normally exporting it and importing the heavy one from other places like Canada.

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lemmy.zip

sour sweet

Who the fuck named these this and why?

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They used to taste it in the past.

The term sweet originates from the fact that a low level of sulfur provides the oil with a relatively sweet taste and pleasant smell, compared to sulfurous oil. Nineteenth-century prospectors would taste and smell small quantities of oil to determine its quality.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_crude_oil

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lemmy.world

Then do something about it. Have the congressional police arrest Trump, Vance, and Secretary of Defense Hegseth.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I mean, you don’t actually expect that to be possible right? Think of the implication that would have, where republicans would just arrest the president for wearing a tan suit.

I get that these are more obvious crimes, but the idea that a single member of the house could mobilize any kind of force to arrest the sitting president is insanity.

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lemmy.world

Which is more insane:

A member of congress operating unilaterally to arrest members of the Executive branch to halt their criminal actions?

Or the Executive branch acting unilaterally to wage war illegally on a sovereign nation?

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You’re missing my point. A singular member of congress has zero authority, nor avenue to accomplish, arresting a sitting president. It isn’t just “it isn’t done, don’t do that” it’s “there’s no way to accomplish that.”

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

So do you really think that one Congresswoman has the power to arrest a sitting president? Hell even if you took all the progressives and what remains of the squad, do you really think those numbers are enough to pull what could only be a coup?

Truly though, I think the reason Trump is going to get away with this and the reason Bush got away with his bullshit before is because of nonsense statements like this.

Also there's no such thing as Congressional police. You may be trying to refer to the Capitol Police, but they can't even successfully arrest insurrectionists.

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bush got away because the MSM stopped reporting his actions the moment he left, in order cover for him, so magats would forge the ever did anything.

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sh.itjust.works

Have you ever seen someone pull a trailer using bungee cords, or use a bare wire in an electrical socket, or use a power tool without any safety gear? It's frustrating if they get away with it, and as a result learn that what they did was a good idea.

What's really awful about this Venezuela operation is that the initial phase of it actually went just fine. No American soldiers were killed, Maduro was captured alive and uninjured, and so on. It was an incredibly stupid and reckless thing to do. But, for the moment, everything went as well as the Department of War could hope. It will probably have bad long-term diplomatic consequences, but those aren't visible yet. If there's a phase 2 of this "war", it's probably going to have unseen issues. For the moment though, they got away with it.

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lemmy.world

What about the Venezuelan casualties? I would not want to be within 500 m of those explosions. If the shrapnel does not get you, the shockwave will tear apart your diaphragm.

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sh.itjust.works

Those matter to normal humans, but not his MAGA base. If an American soldier had been killed in this operation, they would have been against it. But, because the only people killed were Venezuelans, they probably support what he did.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's not even regime change, the old Maduro supporting regime is still running the show. The VP was on a visit in Russia when this happened.

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lemmy.zip

Russia

I find it interesting that they are very weak in a traditional military sense, but their intelligence, posturing and political power is stupidly effective.

It’s like they learned that information is the new warfare and trained on that while letting their traditional forces fall apart.

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lemmy.world

they are very weak in a traditional military sense

They're in a multi-year proxy war with NATO and gaining ground. Can't imagine why anyone would call that "weak" compared to, say, Iraq '03 or Serbia '99, where the countries were overrun in a matter of months.

their intelligence, posturing and political power is stupidly effective.

A lot of it is the USSR's anti-colonialist legacy. Russia inherited enormous goodwill from it's historical geopolitical allies. And - as a trillion $/year economy with advanced technology and infrastructure - they have a lot of carrots to throw around, as well as sticks. Idk if that can last, given their increased isolation and economic contracting, but it's been enough to coast on for decades

And with the US banging on Venezuela's door, they're a logical Realpolitik partner. Enemy of my enemy.

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lemmy.zip

I say they’re weak because it is a proxy war. They’re going all out, while NATO powers are tangentially supplying Ukraine. If it was a direct NATO intervention, it would not be going nearly as well for them. They thought they would be in and out in 3 days, we’re approaching 4 years and it has greatly exposed how dilapidated their military infrastructure is.

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They’re going all out, while NATO powers are tangentially supplying Ukraine.

The EU is plowing hundreds of billions into the fight while their domestic economies sag. Meanwhile, Russia aligned far right parties - AfD, National Rally, Reform UK - are surging across the continent.

They thought they would be in and out in 3 days, we’re approaching 4 years

The story of every war in history.

But then I've heard the NAFO heads that Ukraine would have recaptured Crimea by now. And that Putin would be arrested/killed. And Navalny would be running the country as its rightfully elected president.

All that was supposed to happen before Biden's midterms.

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Stalemated boondoggles are the point, and Russia is probably the most well equipped to satiate the industry with military surplus and bodies. They don't need to be conventionally arms racing in this economy. No nuclear power really has to.

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lemmy.world

So much for Tulsi Gabbard's weirdly specific position against "regime change wars".

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Not primarily. I think it's simultaneously to steal oil, as is tradition with American Republicans, and also to cover any domestic issues. The fact that Trump raped dozens of kids, and he deleted and redacted millions of documents to cover that up, is one of those domestic issues. The others are the economy, ICE being a gestapo that disappears anyone the regime doesn't like, and the establishment of "quick reaction forces" in the US military to deploy against protesters (look it up, it's real).

We about to get really hot here in America.

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lemmy.world

AOC is spot on! The USA is on the same shitty level as the Russians and they have given a free pass for China to attack Taiwan.

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feddit.dk

I'm not some tankie or anything, but with Russia being allowed to take Crimea in 2014, and give it a few weeks, but I suspect the world will do fuck all about the US invading and annexing Venezuela. What is stopping China from taking Taiwan? The biggest players on the world stage has shown time and time again, that you can just take land because you want it, so why shouldn't China just take Taiwan? What would make an invasion of Taiwan worse than an invasion of Venezuela, Ukraine or Afghanistan?

Just to make sure everyone understands, I don't think any of them should be allowed to take any other country's land, but the world has shown it's completely acceptable for any reason, including wanting more oil, wanting natural ressources and farmable land, or wanting to blow up brown people.

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but I suspect the world will do fuck all about the US invading and annexing Venezuela.

Absolutely, it will at most be a couple of stern letters.
Nobody supports Venezuela, nobody likes Maduro, and although we know it's wrong, nobody wants to risk souring relations over something that doesn't really relate to us.

This is what China wants, because if USA is allowed to do it, China will just make a similar claim, and expect to be allowed military action too.

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lemmy.world

USA isn't annexing Venezuela and China won't take Taiwan because all they will take is a burning rock. Taiwan may not stop the invasion like Ukraine did but they are willing to die trying like Ukrainians are, and their factories are rigged with explosives.

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Trump has said that USA will be controlling Venezuela. If that isn't annexation, i don't know what is. Venezuela will now be under control of Trump, and be tossed aside and ignored like Puerto Rico the moment it isn't profitable anymore. Sure, they may install a puppet in Venezuela, but make no mistake, Trump has shown that the puppet can and will be removed tge second USA doesn't get its oil. Venezuela no longer decides anything, Trump does. That's annexation.

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lemmy.today

china doesnt want to risk destroying those tsmc/chip factories they desperately want.

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They don't want them because they're still produced by ASML, they want to make the machines themselves. They probably don't want to destroy them simply because they don't want to destroy taiwan

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Taiwan is significantly more well armed and trained than Venezuela.

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lemmy.ca

It's even better.

Trump already stabbed the Venezuelan people in the back.

They are working with the vice president, meaning this has nothing to do with liberation. Nothing. Simply control of resources, nothing else.

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lemmy.ca

Yes, the same one who was part of all the brutal shit Maduro was part of.

Venezuelans celebrating my ass. Any who are just don't realize they've been had yet.

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kbin.earth

The only news sources I know of claiming the Venezuelan government was involved in "brutal shit" are the same ones telling us all sorts of other things that tended to be greatly exaggerated, misrepresented, or left out/kept silent on other pertinent details that changed the understanding of the story. The news sources owned by billionaires and corporations with agendas.

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lemmy.ca

So the EU, the UN, the ICC, Amnesty International..... they're all part of this so-called exaggeration and misrepresentation? Just trying to understand.

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I'm saying we need to fix our own "brutal shit” before worrying about others. Abu ghirab? Deportation centers. Rough rides. Hands up, don't shoot! I can't breathe! Extrajudicial bombings of citizens.

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lemmy.world

And yet Americans will do nothing except demonstrate how servile they are to the state.

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They don't mind regime change or unprovoked aggression against other countries. The US has a long history of such actions with no protest from the populace. Even Vietnam, the protest was about them having to risk their lives on the war. This time it's because Trump is also dangerous to some of them.

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lemmy.world

Thank god they put "slams" in the headline, otherwise lemmy's anti-progressive contributors might not have an easy excuse to ignore AOC.

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"I want to make it very clear that I am slamming this operation. Make sure to put that in the headline!"

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yoo its only a few days after New Year wtf man.

Also this gives me 2019 vibes: January 2019 right after New Year Trump ordered missile strike that hit a top Iranian general's vehicle.

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lemmy.today

no actually its to distract from the epstein files, first and foremost, oil is a side benefit. the amount of info coming about trump being a depraved pervert is really getting to him.

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lemmy.ml

people forget that trump was already going to go to war with maduro in the previous election when he was president. around 2018. trying to get rid of maduro. this has nothing to do with epstein and all to do with oil.

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I think it's a little of this, a little of that.

Though it's not like this wouldn't have happened under a Harris presidency.

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lemmy.world

If he's going to fuck whole nations now, I though he'd go for South Sudan, as it's now less than 15 years old as a state.

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Venezuela was a far easier target than a landlocked country in a part of the world where the US isn't a major imperial player. Maduro was the perfect bad guy for him; an unlikable dictator who bullied neighboring countries over their own oil supply.

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lemmy.ca

Wonder if Venezuelans have figured out yet that their opposition leader sold their country and its oil to Trump in exchange for the Peace prize ceremony?

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Why do you think the opposition keeps shitting the bed in the face of a weak President, every election cycle?

Venezuelans may wrangle at Maduro's mediocrity, but they're utterly repulsed by the fascist freaks that occupy the right wing

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When will the USA get billions from corporations to fix our crumbling infrastructure?

Just wondering

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All fair and good to "SLAM" him, but also fucking do something about it.

All the fucking Dems do is complaining, never any fucking actions. They have the power to

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feddit.uk

Do what about it? They're not in charge. Of anything.

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imagine a person with physical access to congress having no idea of how to stop the regime

Americans are so useless lmao

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

They have seats in whatever Americans call the equivalent to the Parliament, they can propose laws

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lemmy.world

Ah yes, in the same House that the Republican leaders have on indefinite recess.

Next looming manufactured-by-Republican crisis: That budget deal that reopened the government only lasts through the end of this month. They aren't passing a budget if they aren't in session!

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Congress wasn't asked. They weren't even told.

This is now a one man show.

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Why would they? Their voting base is happy to give them every excuse possible to not try anything at all. Why try anything? It's Republican's fault and any attempt to criticize neo-liberal Democrats who do nothing at all will be shot down as somehow defending Republicans. If you keep demanding action they'll call you maga and block you.

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Unless they have enough support from the other side right now, those laws die immediately. 

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At this point I dont think the dems want to. The system is operating almost exactly how it should be by their standards.

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lemmy.today

Yep, I been saying the same thing. I've been predicting a war with Venezuela for months. He is friends with the Saudis, and he wants what they have - billions in oil flowing in every single day.

Venezuela has the largest oil reserves on the planet, so of course he wants it, at any cost.

And just like he said in this morning's announcement, he thinks he has the Monroe Doctrine to lean on, even if he doesn't know what it is, or even who Monroe is. Somebody told him enough to make him think that it extends to the entire Western Hemisphere.

The plan is is for Trump to control the Western Hemisphere, Putin to control Europe and West Asia, and China to control the rest of Asia, and everybody to exploit the shit out of Africa.

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Same here, Cadet Bone Spurs wanted to attack Venezuela in 2017 and your last paragraph is correct too.

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lemmy.world

The alternate take I've heard is to take Venezuela out of the oil market entierly thus driving up the price and propping up Russias economy for a bit longer.

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No, Trump wants that money. He'll be glad to sell it to Russia, perhaps even at a reduced rate, to help Russia's economy, but he will not simply let it shut down.

The bigger issue is that apparently the infrastructure is old and decrepit, and needs major rehabilitation, but Trump is already inviting deals from American oil companies, so 2 or 3 of them will pay for the repairs, in exchange for exclusive rights.

But make no mistake, the bulk of the profits will go the Trump. He's friends with the Saudis, and he wants the same lifestyle they have, and Venezuelan oil will give that to him.

We have to make sure he doesn't get it.

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mander.xyz

The US attacked yet another country. Why is a comment AOC made about it top news?

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lemmy.world

Same reason MTG's comments got press, they're possible 2028 contenders.

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lemmy.world

Of course it is. Iraq was exactly the same operation, oil and regime change. And what AOC will do about that? She will say "Thank you for your service". Nothing more, nothing less. USA is pirate state, if they want something, they will get it, no matter who is the President. The difference is how is done.

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It's been a few years since the US invaded Iraq... Regardless, China's investment in oil production does not translate to consumption. About half of Iraq's oil was going to the US around 2004.

China gains power and influence in foreign nations through significant investment in infrastructure (often leading to enormous debt), which is going to result in significant long-term gains for China. The US approach is to smash the front door down and loot the place, then install a puppet who is hopefully loyal to them and won't be easily ousted.

I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of either of them, but I know which one I'd choose if I had to pick one.

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“Thank you for your service”

This is what bothers me so much - It's not just the US, I see it in Canada too. For how long will we ignore what that "service" was?

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Every time I see an article use the word "slam" or any other buzzwords like it, a little piece of me dies inside.

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lemmy.world

People are gonna start falling out of windows in the US real soon.

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People joke about this but it already happens via house fires, carbon monoxide, gas accidents, and homeless/poor people being manipulated and given a scapegoat (vic) to murder.

It's not a prediction it's happening.

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When MAGA Texas gets over it's warection, they will slowly realize the Permian basin will crash as hard as 2020 from a glut of oil.

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I've been to Venezuela twice for some extended stays. First time when Chavez was still around. Second time when Maduro was a couple years in office. I can still remember listening to his radio addresses. I remember feeling the heat off the asphalt in the city, the crazy traffic, the beautiful beaches.

Looking down from the hills onto the canopy below and seeing fireworks at midnight Christmas Eve into Christmas. I knew id never be back as it was dangerous AF then (2013 last time).

We would say it was once a beautiful country but now it's just a beautiful land.

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Say what we will. The media will frame this as a huge win and a tough act of individualism. Fuckface will be wildly popular for a time.

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lemmy.ca

And deflecting from the Epstein files. Never forget that. Now that they've recently found a billionteen more files it'll take 'em a bit longer to redact, I mean release them. But yes, the oil. Now they can drive cheaply to their rape locations.

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lemmy.world

The distractions are gonna get wilder and more often until he is locked up and denied bail

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earlier he said he will be targeting other s american countries, just to get the news off of epstein.

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lemmy.world

You know thinking about this, I wonder if it was an inside job and the military let the helicopters in.

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We won't have all the details for a while, but yeah it's kind of shocking how this happened with apparently no resistance. Surely Venezuela has some kind of anti-air capability.

Edit: some details have come out. One US helicopter took a hit but remained operational. Multiple strikes against Venezuelan sites probably hindered their response. Reports of at least 40 Venezuelans dead in the operation, probably more, especially at those other sites.

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The problem is I can already here so many people I have spoken with in the past justifying this by saying he was a bad guy. So I don't actually think ( other than people like me who just like to see the rules followed ) that this will play well for a lot of people.

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this would have been quite the bold claim if the used sponge of a president that you have didn't literally say the same thing to reporters himself.

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If someone was to do that, they ought not to make comments about it on the internet.

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Buhurrrr budurrrt sLaM we SlaMeD HiM look everyone we slamed him so hardddddd hiw will he even recover from that 5 lines of text.

Fucking pathetic.

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