I'm locking this. I removed an entire thread of comments because I understand how both sides could think they're right and it's getting reported. No one is banned.
Only four of the seventeen warthunder leaks have been about American equipment (and one manual for the export model of the F-15E (that IIRC was specifically the Saudi version? It was a whole thing at one point)).
It seems likely that this meme is a reference to how fucking notoriouslyUS diplomatic staff in china absolutely cannot keep it in their pants (note that it's specifically about staff in china,we're the ones crossing the borders here). I dunno, this doesn't seem like "blaming foreigners" when it's such a problem there has to be a public policy to combat dipshit american diplomats falling for it.
I don't get it. Like I'm a slut too, but I've never considered talking about work with people I'm sleeping with in a foreign country, even if it's not defense work.
You should see some of my DMs - if they're horny enough, people will say anything to keep an attractive person interested in talking to them.
Hey defense nerds! If you have information about the specific makeup of current-gen Chobham armor, I will 100% fly to you and let you pound my ass in exchange for it (been curious about that one for years now, warthunder has been disappointingly unforthcoming...)
(side note: 98% of my interactions on lemmy have been great, but wow that 2%)
Oh yeah, the only fun parts of reddit were the few friends I made and the mountain of horror stories I collected. Lemmy is so so much better right now, my god.
That brings back memories of some of the unhinged comments I would get when I posted nudes on a different site (not why I stopped, I just don't really have a good place to post for sapphic focused content rn). I guess I've just always known I'm desirable enough to keep people I'm interested in talking to me and to understand that while other internet exhibitionists may very much enjoy chatting, rping, and other fun stuff it's inherently casual and the best way to keep getting attention is to figure out what the person I'm chatting with is hoping to get out of it (usually interesting conversation involving effort).
To summarize: the naked lady on the internet is not going to date you, but you can have fun with it. Don't make it weirder than she wants, you just get blocked. Also git gud.
And if you want a specific warthunder leak you just gotta make bold and incorrect statements about it on their forums. Though I hear providing coke in Vegas in something skimpy can get you far more classified information than you think.
Trying to explain to my boss why the feds are there asking questions about a picture of my tits with "silica-manganese doped ceramics are terrible at defeating kinetic penetrators" scrawled across them....
(Big mood about sapphic content though, some folks really struggle to accept not being the target audience. Lemmy really isn't big enough yet to support an actual girl4girl community, but I have hopes that one day...)
Listen, somebody has to make HR earn their paycheck…
(And yeah that's where I am with it. I appreciate how sapphic lemmy is, but idk if it has enough community for such a community, and even if it does, I've moderated far too much of the internet to ever create a lemmy community)
Sure you're the most notorious troll on lemmy, but this is such obvious shit-stirrin' that it feels... idk, kinda beneath you?
"I don't know why this deeply unpopular comment was downvoted, they seem totally reasonable to me" it's just so straightforward. lacks the élan your comments usually have.
Your conclusion is that it's always getting blamed on the chinese, and your evidence is an extremely famous series of scandals that did not involve china...?
How can this not be sarcastic? Has Andrew Tate actually warned about Asians?
If people take everything at face value it's no wonder that Trump succeeds with making America great again. He says so, it must be true, let's vote for him.
I'd argue it's rather healthy for americans to not just assume that someone spouting rhetoric is being sarcastic. That attitude of extending the benefit of the doubt to people undeserving of it got us into this mess in the first place.
(Tho in this case, it's not that people don't realize they're being sarcastic - it's that what they're saying with that sarcasm is really, really off the mark, and they're being incredibly shitty in how they said it)
Yeah that's exactly the problem - it's a meme criticizing ourselves for being too stupid not to simp out classified info to a pretty girl. The girl isn't the one being called out here, it's a joke about how frequently US contractors are caught doing this because of how dumb and uncontrollably horny they are.
Being called racist or sexist in response to a meme making a much more nuanced and cutting critique (especially one expressed in such a truly disgusting way) doesn't wound the ego or anything, it's just fuckin' annoying.
that actually happened to one of my acquaintances a couple of years ago. hooked up with some girl at drone convention and she got arrested shortly afterwards for spying. he saw none of it - just got informed later on that he was about to get the honeypot treatment due to his work. dude was so scared he went ballistic on his digital footprint and won't even talk to you if there's any mic'ed device in his vicinity. if i ever saw a man "scared shitless" that was it
The irony being all the Defense contractors on here that upvoted, saying "heh, boobs do be like that," and there's some website that tracks who votes how on Lemmy, thus revealing a short list of maybes.
Due to the federated nature of Lemmy, and the need to prevent one account voting multiple times, and the ActivityPub protocol it's all built on... all votes are effectively public, though Lemmy does try to obscure this a bit. But anyone can set up an instance, link to other instances, and be sent all the votes and who did them.
Lucky for you there is a site https://lemvotes.org/ that saves you this hassle, it's in the form of looking up votes for a post rather than bulk data.
I'd wager just a few bored glowies... but with Utah's processing power and "AI", probably none until something gets flagged, then a contractor might be called in.
Lies. Last thing you see is a WarThunder forum comment claiming that the radar cross section of a F-22 is about the size of a golfball, and you know for a fact that in most directions, it has a radar cross section comparable with a bumble bee.
The RSA brings together thousands of scholars from around the globe, welcoming the broad range of activity in Renaissance studies today. Focused on the advancement of learning through our publications, events, and programs, the RSA provides its members with a deeper and broader understanding of the period 1300–1700.
The worst part is when they're girl-next-door natural beauties like this.
Your brain can say no to an obvious escort/Victoria secret model suspect, but when your animal brain starts shutting down your frontal lobe with "Oh my god, she's the one!!" malware you're screwed lmao
I used to work for a large defense contractor as a consultant. The best way to damage China would have been to let the spies see everything and hope they implemented the same fucked-up shit over there.
Describe the technical specifics of your job in a way that misleads them as to the actual information you're working with, but that won't be immediately obvious to an expert that's potentially even more familiar with the source material you're working with than you are.
It's just hard to keep that kind of lie going - it's not impossible, but fooling someone with an entire intelligence agency requires a whole lot of both luck and planning.
The honeypot idea probably does rely at least in part on you not knowing that's what it is so, if you for some reason thought that was happening then... Nothing is stopping you. I guess you could operate on the assumption at all times but that's going to be difficult especially when they're trying to extract the information from you in a way that doesn't seem like they're trying to do that so you'd have to maintain your facade and chicken feed story in response to even the most banal things that don't seem like they're probing. There's also the fact that you would now be aware of the forces you're dealing with and also the potential blowback to you if you're wrongly suspected of colluding or being less smart than you in fact are.
I know someone who has a security clearance of some type, I got interviewed about them a few years back. In a rounabout way they said that people who cant talk about work tend to date other people who cant talk about work. Not necessarily in the same field but people who are used to compartmentalising like doctors, lawyers, etc. People who professionally understand "I cant talk about it".
I don't talk much about work with my wife. Mostly I can, but why would I want to take my work life home. I spend hours talking about work stuff at work. Let's talk about other stuff at home.
Perhaps it's different when your job defines you as a person or your job is your life.
It helps to live in a place where most people do work like this. It's more culturally acceptable to simply not ask in the first place.
I'd go as far as to say that it's so ingrained in some folks, that it's a dead giveaway what they're up to based on whether or not they ask you what you do for a living.
I was in the Air Force with a secret clearance, working on radar systems. There's some stuff i can't talk about for legal reasons, then there's stuff i don't talk about because it would make me look dumb. Like that time i worked on the circuit breaker panel without cutting input power. Or that time we forgot to open the vents before powering up the thing.
the original honey pot. basically, an attractive person from a geopolitical foe country feigns interest in you (sometimes involves sex) and gets you to divulge secrets that they then pass on to their handlers.
And i guess if you go in knowingly and thinking "I can enjoy it and keep my tongue in check" you end being blackmailed and/or info extracted because she's trained for it?
I don't think so, i mean, i get why it looks racist. but China is a geopolitical foe of the US, and they do use honeypots like this for gathering intel, and Chinese people do generally look Asian, for the most part.
Really? You really don't see the race angle of assuming Asian women are government honeypots? You understand that there's a reason it's not a white woman in the photo right?
You mean idolize a particular body shape that is not one I've seen on any woman under about 280 lbs? No I think I'll continue thinking this meme is pretty creepy and in really weird taste?
You see anything about that photo that's normal? I don't. I've seen enough photos of giant boobs to both know the profile and also that I don't like it.
Apparently I have to like it though or a whole wagon of Lemmy weirdos will come to comment and downvote which is pretty neat.
You can like what you want, but I'm more about a realistic and proportional standard myself. There's nothing gay about it, but I can't understand it, personally. I just can't imagine how the premise of the meme isn't "haha no thanks" instead of "sure a little light treason sounds good in exchange for those danglers!"
I'm locking this. I removed an entire thread of comments because I understand how both sides could think they're right and it's getting reported. No one is banned.
Wait... that doesn't look like the war thunder forums...
jokes on her, the intel she’s digging for i leaked on war thunder already
Only four of the seventeen warthunder leaks have been about American equipment (and one manual for the export model of the F-15E (that IIRC was specifically the Saudi version? It was a whole thing at one point)).
It seems likely that this meme is a reference to how fucking notoriously US diplomatic staff in china absolutely cannot keep it in their pants (note that it's specifically about staff in china, we're the ones crossing the borders here). I dunno, this doesn't seem like "blaming foreigners" when it's such a problem there has to be a public policy to combat dipshit american diplomats falling for it.
There were seventeen?!
There were seventeen so far.
I can't not appreciate a good Simpsons reference.
it was a very good year
I don't get it. Like I'm a slut too, but I've never considered talking about work with people I'm sleeping with in a foreign country, even if it's not defense work.
You should see some of my DMs - if they're horny enough, people will say anything to keep an attractive person interested in talking to them.
Hey defense nerds! If you have information about the specific makeup of current-gen Chobham armor, I will 100% fly to you and let you pound my ass in exchange for it (been curious about that one for years now, warthunder has been disappointingly unforthcoming...)
(side note: 98% of my interactions on lemmy have been great, but wow that 2%)
Tbf 98% of my interactions on reddit have been bad and rest 2% were worse.
Oh yeah, the only fun parts of reddit were the few friends I made and the mountain of horror stories I collected. Lemmy is so so much better right now, my god.
That brings back memories of some of the unhinged comments I would get when I posted nudes on a different site (not why I stopped, I just don't really have a good place to post for sapphic focused content rn). I guess I've just always known I'm desirable enough to keep people I'm interested in talking to me and to understand that while other internet exhibitionists may very much enjoy chatting, rping, and other fun stuff it's inherently casual and the best way to keep getting attention is to figure out what the person I'm chatting with is hoping to get out of it (usually interesting conversation involving effort).
To summarize: the naked lady on the internet is not going to date you, but you can have fun with it. Don't make it weirder than she wants, you just get blocked. Also git gud.
And if you want a specific warthunder leak you just gotta make bold and incorrect statements about it on their forums. Though I hear providing coke in Vegas in something skimpy can get you far more classified information than you think.
Trying to explain to my boss why the feds are there asking questions about a picture of my tits with "silica-manganese doped ceramics are terrible at defeating kinetic penetrators" scrawled across them....
(Big mood about sapphic content though, some folks really struggle to accept not being the target audience. Lemmy really isn't big enough yet to support an actual girl4girl community, but I have hopes that one day...)
Listen, somebody has to make HR earn their paycheck…
(And yeah that's where I am with it. I appreciate how sapphic lemmy is, but idk if it has enough community for such a community, and even if it does, I've moderated far too much of the internet to ever create a lemmy community)
Weird.
It’s a well thought out comment and not an off-the-cuff response to an imagined slight.
Is the internet maturing?
Sure you're the most notorious troll on lemmy, but this is such obvious shit-stirrin' that it feels... idk, kinda beneath you?
"I don't know why this deeply unpopular comment was downvoted, they seem totally reasonable to me" it's just so straightforward. lacks the élan your comments usually have.
Oh you misunderstand me my comment wasn’t defending underpants.
Ah my apologies, your reputation may have preceded you.
You're thinking of a different imaginary red character. This is Santa
No, you just stumbled upon a fringe where the signal/noise ratio is slightly better.
Hardly unique to China. Obama's SS famously all got busted visiting prostitutes in Brazil while scouting venues for his visit.
But it always seems to get blamed on the Yellow Peril when it's in the news
Your conclusion is that it's always getting blamed on the chinese, and your evidence is an extremely famous series of scandals that did not involve china...?
* runs after you as you exit the building
Sir, you forgot your /s.
How can this not be sarcastic? Has Andrew Tate actually warned about Asians?
If people take everything at face value it's no wonder that Trump succeeds with making America great again. He says so, it must be true, let's vote for him.
I'd argue it's rather healthy for americans to not just assume that someone spouting rhetoric is being sarcastic. That attitude of extending the benefit of the doubt to people undeserving of it got us into this mess in the first place.
(Tho in this case, it's not that people don't realize they're being sarcastic - it's that what they're saying with that sarcasm is really, really off the mark, and they're being incredibly shitty in how they said it)
I don't get it. What does he say? Americans don't seek the fault at themselves and have racial, age and gender prejudices.
If that hurts, it's time to do some soul searching. How is that offensive to a wrong person?
Yeah that's exactly the problem - it's a meme criticizing ourselves for being too stupid not to simp out classified info to a pretty girl. The girl isn't the one being called out here, it's a joke about how frequently US contractors are caught doing this because of how dumb and uncontrollably horny they are.
Being called racist or sexist in response to a meme making a much more nuanced and cutting critique (especially one expressed in such a truly disgusting way) doesn't wound the ego or anything, it's just fuckin' annoying.
It only addresses the people who blame the girl. You don't do that, you shouldn't feel offended.
The actual last thing you see before leaking state secrets...
Well memed.
✊ the struggle is real
"lul not like you losers have any actual clearance"
I already leaked. She just doesn't know.
Perfect
If anyone doesn't recognize this, please go watch all the Lonely Island videos - good shit!
A man can't wet himself?
You can do whatever you want, champ
Damn right!
that actually happened to one of my acquaintances a couple of years ago. hooked up with some girl at drone convention and she got arrested shortly afterwards for spying. he saw none of it - just got informed later on that he was about to get the honeypot treatment due to his work. dude was so scared he went ballistic on his digital footprint and won't even talk to you if there's any mic'ed device in his vicinity. if i ever saw a man "scared shitless" that was it
I heard of the same on Reddit that a guy's ex-girlfriend was a spy.
that's even worse.
The irony being all the Defense contractors on here that upvoted, saying "heh, boobs do be like that," and there's some website that tracks who votes how on Lemmy, thus revealing a short list of maybes.
Oh no, I made a terrible mistake and upvoted the post multiple times. Now they'll definitely go after me :(
Orly? Where's this? Do they openly published their data?
Due to the federated nature of Lemmy, and the need to prevent one account voting multiple times, and the ActivityPub protocol it's all built on... all votes are effectively public, though Lemmy does try to obscure this a bit. But anyone can set up an instance, link to other instances, and be sent all the votes and who did them.
Lucky for you there is a site https://lemvotes.org/ that saves you this hassle, it's in the form of looking up votes for a post rather than bulk data.
I'd definitely be upvoting then.
I'd wager just a few bored glowies... but with Utah's processing power and "AI", probably none until something gets flagged, then a contractor might be called in.
Isn't that the joke?
She can have them.
Lies. Last thing you see is a WarThunder forum comment claiming that the radar cross section of a F-22 is about the size of a golfball, and you know for a fact that in most directions, it has a radar cross section comparable with a bumble bee.
At this point there's no way the dev team of war thunder is anything but spies.
I'm not a spy,and I'd enjoy the hell out of running that.
Ok so just find a government to sponsor you and you'll be running it in no time.
If she thinks I'm not atleast seeing the tiddies before I commit treason she has another thing coming.
Had a Russian woman way too into me at the bar during RSA. Maybe I was being paranoid but I bailed.
Is Machiavelli still that relevant?
I was wondering what RSA meant! I could only think of the encryption algorithm lol
It's a security conference, also in San Francisco.
Well I appreciate you making fun of him for writing the acronym without defining it.
The worst part is when they're girl-next-door natural beauties like this.
Your brain can say no to an obvious escort/Victoria secret model suspect, but when your animal brain starts shutting down your frontal lobe with "Oh my god, she's the one!!" malware you're screwed lmao
One smile from a girl like that and the brain melts. I think the only vaccine is to be in a healthy relationship already so you don't have interest.
I don't think that's the way it works. Be in a healthy relationship so you don't fall for it maybe, but we aren't dead here.
That's weird. That doesn't look like a Signal chat.
I'm in the wrong industry.
Seems to be Elliye Gold / juasicko, artist, both musical and painting, and influencer.
So this means I can safely date her ? I'm relieved, thanks !
She's got top level lemmy clearance. Should be good.
Yes, no issues besides her saying no haha
Or it's a super clever ruse. Long term sleeper agent in New Zealand with a Korean background cover story 😄
Da real mvp
Getting way too close to the thin border of stalking ngl.
She's a public person trying to get an audience and I'm pasting links to her public profiles. I think you need to doublecheck your logic.
Sexretary of War
"SecWarCrimes has invited you to a Signal chat"
what's to stop one from benefiting from the honey pot, but feeding them false information?
I used to work for a large defense contractor as a consultant. The best way to damage China would have been to let the spies see everything and hope they implemented the same fucked-up shit over there.
Unironically tho
Describe the technical specifics of your job in a way that misleads them as to the actual information you're working with, but that won't be immediately obvious to an expert that's potentially even more familiar with the source material you're working with than you are.
It's just hard to keep that kind of lie going - it's not impossible, but fooling someone with an entire intelligence agency requires a whole lot of both luck and planning.
There are very few optimal ways to do something. There are an infinite number of wrong ways.
apparently counterintel is really hard to do, according to some other lemmy comment i read before somewhere.
it is case-dependent. not every honeypot operation is about gaining intelligence. some are just to discredit someone.
The honeypot idea probably does rely at least in part on you not knowing that's what it is so, if you for some reason thought that was happening then... Nothing is stopping you. I guess you could operate on the assumption at all times but that's going to be difficult especially when they're trying to extract the information from you in a way that doesn't seem like they're trying to do that so you'd have to maintain your facade and chicken feed story in response to even the most banal things that don't seem like they're probing. There's also the fact that you would now be aware of the forces you're dealing with and also the potential blowback to you if you're wrongly suspected of colluding or being less smart than you in fact are.
That's absolutely been done before, giving spies false information. Not sure if it's ever been done via honeypot, who knows.
Jokes on her, most of my country's military resources haven't been updated since the Boer War.
What about all the sweet guns you took from the Prawns?
Ah mean....would?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nco_kh8xJDs
Technically I can only break ITAR but they know everything I know already, so fuck it we ball.
Breaking ITAR, that's just a tuesday.
I know someone who has a security clearance of some type, I got interviewed about them a few years back. In a rounabout way they said that people who cant talk about work tend to date other people who cant talk about work. Not necessarily in the same field but people who are used to compartmentalising like doctors, lawyers, etc. People who professionally understand "I cant talk about it".
I don't talk much about work with my wife. Mostly I can, but why would I want to take my work life home. I spend hours talking about work stuff at work. Let's talk about other stuff at home.
Perhaps it's different when your job defines you as a person or your job is your life.
It’s probably easier when people are interested in the job, or think they know what the job is.
I have a friend who is an artist, and they started telling people they worked in tech so the conversation would die. 😆
It helps to live in a place where most people do work like this. It's more culturally acceptable to simply not ask in the first place.
I'd go as far as to say that it's so ingrained in some folks, that it's a dead giveaway what they're up to based on whether or not they ask you what you do for a living.
I've had jobs where I'm not able to talk about specifics but they're still plenty of good stories you can tell.
I was in the Air Force with a secret clearance, working on radar systems. There's some stuff i can't talk about for legal reasons, then there's stuff i don't talk about because it would make me look dumb. Like that time i worked on the circuit breaker panel without cutting input power. Or that time we forgot to open the vents before powering up the thing.
🛸 👽
the original honey pot. basically, an attractive person from a geopolitical foe country feigns interest in you (sometimes involves sex) and gets you to divulge secrets that they then pass on to their handlers.
this has been the most effective espionage since forever
I draw the line at Asian crypto scammers, but I would totally go out with a hot Chinese spy!
And i guess if you go in knowingly and thinking "I can enjoy it and keep my tongue in check" you end being blackmailed and/or info extracted because she's trained for it?
Edit: answer just below
And then the twelve colonies are destroyed in a surprise attack.
Solid reference
Cmon, I say "OK Boomer" ONCE and trillions die? Unfair!
100% will be fired or worse for this someday.
The guy in question
Roddy Ho is that you?
tf? Dr. Pepper’s great and all, but goddamn.
I think it's possible this may have happened to me. And it was totally worth it, if that's what it was!
Damn, I should learn some state secrets to leak.
Sweet Dave, the supply of weapons is completely classified, which is great!
Maybe something for the ladies too?
I keep forgetting muscle inplants are an actual thing some people get lmao.
I don’t think that’s implants - it’s even worse; it’s a liquid they inject called “synthol”.
Ladies are not sharing state secrets with this fella unless he has max charisma and max wisdom.
Fairly sure he doesn't. Otherwise he would've passed the insight check when considering having these.
I would give up whatever secret she wants.
Too textile.
Especially if you're a shlubby middle-aged nebbish...
The real leak risk is not hackers, it’s humans being human.
Dei Kobol, una apita uthoukarana
Ukthea mavatha gaman kerimuta
We doing yellow peril now?
I don't think so, i mean, i get why it looks racist. but China is a geopolitical foe of the US, and they do use honeypots like this for gathering intel, and Chinese people do generally look Asian, for the most part.
Really? You really don't see the race angle of assuming Asian women are government honeypots? You understand that there's a reason it's not a white woman in the photo right?
Why can’t you just give me a straight answer? I know what yellow peril is and this doesn’t strike me as that.
So the only two races are white and political? You’re telling on yourself.
Am I the only male that doesn't like this look? Giant, saggy titties with saucer nipples are a thing I would pay to not see.
Pretty much yes, you're the only one.
Hey man, do you wanna, oh idk... Be normal about women?
You mean idolize a particular body shape that is not one I've seen on any woman under about 280 lbs? No I think I'll continue thinking this meme is pretty creepy and in really weird taste?
What’s real fucking weird is you assuming her nipple size when she has a shirt on
You see anything about that photo that's normal? I don't. I've seen enough photos of giant boobs to both know the profile and also that I don't like it.
Apparently I have to like it though or a whole wagon of Lemmy weirdos will come to comment and downvote which is pretty neat.
Buddy, it's a picture of a woman in a sweater...
No one is saying you have to prefer women with big tits, but like... Sometimes women have big tits, and you can just be normal about that fact.
Yeah I don't think so when the premise is that "it's the last thing you see before you do a treason".
I'm sure the point of the picture is just that "it's a nice sweater, buddy", and nothing to do with anything else.
I love the internet because occasionally weird little guys like you come along and remind me that everyone’s a little weird in their own special way
...what do you think an "lb" is? Because by every definition I've seen, that woman is maybe 125 of them if she's really tall.
Fellas, is it gay to like titties?
Those titties have been liked by other men. Super gay.
According to closeted maga's? Yes.
You can like what you want, but I'm more about a realistic and proportional standard myself. There's nothing gay about it, but I can't understand it, personally. I just can't imagine how the premise of the meme isn't "haha no thanks" instead of "sure a little light treason sounds good in exchange for those danglers!"
Show us your titties, lemme see if I'd 'pay to see them' or not.