Republicans push to strip Zohran Mamdani of US citizenship. Is it possible?
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It is possible, obviously. It might not be legal, but we all know that doesn’t stop the Trump admin.
Well, we still haven't seen Trump's birth certificate, soo
Melania even more sus
Melania escaped from a Chinese lab conducting unethical research on human-plastic hybridization, that's why they won't produce the birth certificate
i thought it was a human-megalania hybrid, the ancient giant moniter lizard from australia.
No he bought her fair and square. She's his property
From Epstein, no less!
Or his tax returns.
For all we know, Trump's birth certificate states he was born in Moscow, Russia and his birth records state he was raised by the Putin family.
What the fuck are these cretins on?
Is anyone left from Hitler a "communist" now?
What do you mean "now?" Americans have had this habit of calling anyone whose politics they disapprove of a "communist" or "socialist" for a very long time.
The best part is they can't even define communism or socialism.
Of course they can. Both words mean "anything my corporate masters disagree with".
You misspelled rugged individualist, billionaire and centimillionaire overlords that they think they can become with the right luck. Even though that luck was mostly being born into wealth.
Meanwhile, Trump is over here practicing literal state socialism. The government now owns 10% of Intel.
Both in Fascism and Socialism/Communism the State owns the companies, or at least controls them.
Meanwhile in Neoliberalism the companies (well, Money in general) sits above the State, which is how it differs from Fascism: in both systems common people are at the bottom of the pile and whilst in Fascism a few people control the State which sits above Money, in Neoliberalism a few people control most of the Money which sits above the State (which is supposedly controlled by The People through elections, but since it's subsidiary to Money that means that what The People control via the vote is only that which Money doesn't care about)
In Democracy people are supposed to be at the top of the pile, controlling the State through their vote, with the State in turn being above the rest, including Money.
Their point is that the US practices white glove socialism for the rich and rugged merciless capitalism for the poor
The merging of government and corporate power structures has more in common with fascism than with authoritarian communism or
liberallibertarian socialism.It's more just that while they're calling Mamdani a communist, at the same time they're doing the thing that is literally the single most Communist thing a government can do: have the state gain direct ownership or control of the means of production. Communism is many things depending on where, when, and who you ask. But the bare minimum, the common denominator under all forms? State owns of the means of production. And here's Trump literally seizing the means of production. Not just giving out grants or loans, but literally taking a permanent equity stake in a major international company. That is the literal, most basic definition of a Communist action. If literally seizing the means of production isn't Communist, what the hell is?
Except communism isn't when the state seizes the means of production, it's when the workers seize the means of production. Anarchism, for example, is a form of communism that specifically calls for the abolition of the state.
I think the person you are replying to may have been trying to point out the irony of the Americans who voted for Trump because they don't want the state spending money on its poor citizens, when they turn a blind eye to the state investing heavily in private industry.
Literally and without exaggeration, yes, that's what they truly believe.
I feel like this is unfair, because you are leaving out a pretty important part of the issue.
These people also think Hitler was a moderate.
He DID!? I knew it! Wait until I tell my Facebook groups!
A booster seat that ejected him at the last second. Brilliant!
Yes. Unironically that is exactly what they believe
I’m starting to think the GOP got Quantum Leaped by the party from the 80s. Not going be surprised if we start seeing persecution of the color red.
I'd be a little surprised given how tightly the Republican party has taken to using red as their representative colour (and blue for Democrats).
Boomers grew up on anti-communist propaganda. But unlike other people, they didn't use critical thinking and introspection. Therefore, because they still refuse to learn and grow, it's still the scariest thing they can imagine...
Given the turnout and hype around the election, a riot would ensue if the losers took away citizenship to deprive the winner of their winnings.
Giving them the excuse they crave to put NYC into a full on police state
I’m not sure there are enough people on their side to hold a city like New York.
I would fight for New York and I live in California. The fascists are failing.
They surround NYC and then get surrounded themselves by an oos army of Humans.
Yeah, I'm not saying it will go well. But that doesn't mean they wouldn't try. Trump is most notably a stubborn and stupid person
arnt stupid people usually stubborn in general. just like how stubborn animal/pets usually are kind of lacking brain cells.
His handlers aren't quite as stupid.
Fascists don't need an excuse to do what they want to do. They're toddlers. It's like saying a cat needs an excuse to push a fragile memento off a shelf.
Wrong. They will do whatever they want, sure. But they will use any justification no matter how flimsy. This is less flimsy. And you're reacting as if I'm saying what new Yorkers should do but I'm not. I'm simply accurately predicting what we all know trump would do in response.
isnt it sort of a police city, since NYPD is the largest police force in the us.
This is the kind of thing that would lose them support of a lot of the police. It would still be a right wing military based in the city, but right wing ≠ maga
That is not a fight they would win. Admittedly, its a fight everyone would lose. But it would be the end of this coup, and possibly the end of the "United" states.
I don't think they have a chance of holding just NYC but I think every major US city would suddenly be in open revolt if they did this.
it got both the gop and old GUARD dems(gop-lite) scared. remember HOCHUL said she wont support him, until she was facing re-election, or gillibrand who went on a racist tirade.
the constitution only matters when the supreme court actually upholds the constitution.
Anything is possible in a dictatorship
Now that's what AI was made for
Nope. Not even this. Still useless crap. MS Paint would've been better.
It got his hands too big, but not bad.
This took so long to modify via Gemini but I FTFY, all credit to someone else but it's a glorious edit.
Now make his tie comically long
its already like a 4d tie
yeah he buttoned his tie into his fauxniform. it's already appropriately bad
I didn't even notice that, amazing!
No, I don't think so.
through
jesus^ignoring^ ^the^ ^laws^ anything is possible2028 MAGA campaign bumper sticker.
ICE just needs to scan his face with the Racistron 2000 app and it overrides his birth certificate, haven't you heard?
Possible? Absolutely.
Likely? I dont think so. Stripping a person of citizenship because they are of the opposing party feels like a line in the sand. How do you defend that? At that point its over for America. Like pack it up and every person who is not a straight white christian should be looking to get the fuck out
Keep in mind we are dealing with the same administration that is throwing a tantrum over being told to feed starving children in their own country.
And starving prisoners presumed guilty before trial...
They are already abducting and "deporting" US citizens. Your line in the sand has been crossed. Just because they haven't done it yet to one of your parasocial relationship chosen-ones doesn't mean it isn't already happening.
Well, how do they defend the fact that theyre currently kidnapping US citizens? Id say deporting them but most of these US citizens (mind you they never got a trial) just vanish without a trace. Tbh it seems a lot more likely theyre being trafficked.
There's no opposing party.
Keep in mind, they're doing this while protecting multiple child rapists within their own party.
I genuinely hope we have mass executions one day for the scumbags taking us for a ride.
dems on first day of getting back into power
we have seen for unity and healing across the isle... parsons all GOP and ICE for their crimes
G.O.P. Gross Old Pedophiles
I love how scared they are of him.
Just come out and say it you fucking cowards: you are simply racist and have hatred towards Palestinians.
I will dislike you more, but at least you are honest in this regard.
I would actually dislike them less if they would just fucking own up to their own bigot shit. They love being Schrodinger's racists, though
Republicans have no intention of abiding by the law, listening to voters, or actually governing. With them, it's all about the racism, cruelty, and lawlessness. Never let them have power again...
The GOP and Republicans are a terrorist organization
My limited understanding say this is actual true.
This definition is straight from the FBI website.
They themselves even said as much.
This is just more noise and bullshit like demanding to see Obama's birth cert.
Don’t they need a functioning government for that?
As shown by SCROTUS recently, no. They will just call it an emergency measure and shove it through.
great news, enough dems caved and the senate passed a funding bill, without any of the demands the dems were making in the beginning.
I hate this timeline....
i saw a meme that those light switches that don't actually do anything are actually to switch you between timelines. maybe i fucked it all up when i flipped one of those switches back in 2015.
The Big Light Switch got flipped in 1968, with RFK's assassination. Had he lived, he would have become president, the Vietnam War would have ended much earlier, and we would never have Watergate, which triggered a nefarious Republican Revenge Plot that is currently entering its final stage.
RFK's assassination is where the timelines split.
Nope. Unsurprisingly the repressive parts of the government will continue to function no matter what. It’s just the “non essential” things like feeding people and ATC that don’t get funded.
Depends on how you define functioning.
Of course it's possible. We cannot allow it within our society, and it's certainly illegal to do so. The only thing that stops the people who uphold the law from ignoring the law is if people actually stand up to it, since clearly our separation of powers has failed us.
Equates to political assassination. No rules of law, get your brown coats on.
No. But also, they'll get away with it.
New York is resilient if nothing else. It is a dirty, grimy, hazardous city and you have to learn to look out for each other if you want to survive. If they come after the Zo at this point they will disturb the entire wasp's nest. The people supporting the fascists are the same ones who are too scared to set foot in NYC on a nicer day
I say this as a proud New Yorker, but also because fuck fascists
Big city mindset is something else altogether than that of the countryside or even small city: it's an environment that teaches people to have a very low threshold to endure shit from others, even the "nicest" people, because when you live surrounded by thousands of people 24/7 and have to cross paths with literally tens of thousands every day just by walking on the street, enduring shit from others will quickly end up with you getting swamped by crap.
Further, in my own experience (granted, mainly in European cities), the bigger the city the more the people there have a big city's very own special kind of grit. You can see this is even how pedestrians deal with traffic - the bigger the city the less people are willing to just wait for the signs to change and the more likely they are to just tell somebody blocking the way of other pedestrians to "either fucking move or fucking get out of the way".
Of the people I've known over the years the only ones with an even lower threshold for taking shit than me were New Yorkers.
It's the kind of action that in the current environment risks triggering a break-up of the US and it's pretty much a certainty that if that happens Trumpistan isn't going have any of the rich parts in it.
Everything is possible in authoritorian country like Iran, Saudi Arabia, USA, North Korea, China, Venezuala, Russia.
Someone should start an active resistance against
NSDAPGOP.Is it possible? Of course it's possible. America is no longer a country under the rule of law. The fact we haven't had mass executions, starting from the agent who made the 'grab' and continuing up the chain until the finale, ending with the president, for court orders being flagrantly violated for deporting people (and all the other ones as well, but I digress) that a court has said should not be deported, is clear evidence america is done as any sort of functioning democracy.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them try. It's painfully obvious they want to start violence so they can justify martial law. Republicans are literal traitors to US ideals and it sickens me to see. All my life I've had to hear these dumb yokel fucks go on and on about how much they supposedly love this nation, but they couldn't care less.
If the Gestapo kidnaps this man shit is going to hit the fan
Republicans are poor losers so this is expected. Truly pathetic people.
Whatever, they're fucking insane beyond any reason.
It might be evil, but it would also be the dumbest thing they've done in a long time. I don't think they are that stupid.