It's to devalue the words themselves - if you do it fast enough the masses literally stop taking the concepts behind the words seriously. And stop talking about it. "Communism" is a great example of that.
And pre-cald-war's anti-communism propaganda (there still was anticommunist propaganda back then too) folk in the USA actually got educated (by their own independent citizens) what communism literally is, the meaning of the word, what it relates to and what it doesn't relate to (especially 'the political gov system').
I've noticed their president uses "unconditional""unconstitutional" a lot (for everything against their agenda without any relation to the constitution or any explanation ofc).
Same thing.
That sounds great and all but the shit-fountain shit-circulation system isn't perfectly enclosed & self-contained - it's spraying everywhere & they artificially have to add fresh diarrhea on an hourly basis to keep the enthusiasts happy.
These people are so out of touch it's actually hilarious, for some reason they think that people still live in the cold war era, like throwing around some ancient language and random symbols should make the people afraid or something...fucken pathetic
like throwing around some ancient language and random symbols should make the people afraid or something
In my experience, it still does for conservatives and many born before the mid seventies. None of them can tell you why or even what any of the terms or symbols mean, but they've been told all their lives those things are bad and have never stopped to wonder why.
Luckily the brain washing era is almost over, it's time for new blood and fresh ideas, nothing rooted in irrational fear of anything or anyone we don't understand, if people are willing, and it seems that most are, things can hopefully change the better, we had enough of the same ancient people deciding which world my 12 year old should grow up in
While I agree with you that's way more aggressive, and flat out crazy, but Mamdani win is living proof that there's still a glimpse of hope, just looks at the millions they spent to make sure that he never comes to power, and still failed, the change has to start somewhere, right?
Some do. Most are still busy swallowing their own government propaganda. And it's hard to spot when we're bombarded from birth and (excuse the well-worn cliché) the memory hole has become an ever-expanding black hole.
At some point the smear campaigns go from frustrating to somehow funny.
"Ah yes, the "working people need to be able to afford housing and food and transportation" guy. He's the literal reincarnation of the entire Soviet Union. Don't ask us to explain how, something something socialism."
Socialist: Wants to replace capitalism entirely. The idea is that workers or the state should own the means of production (factories, land, major industries) so wealth isn’t concentrated in private hands.
Democratic Socialist: Wants to keep democracy and some market economy, but make it fairer. They push for strong social welfare, workers’ rights, public services, and limits on corporate power. Basically, capitalism with guard rails that prioritise people over profit.
To dumb it down even further, think of Democratic Socialism as what you have today in the US, but with a safety net and better start for everyone in life.
Even further for those of you with room temp IQs
Socialist = smash capitalism.
Democratic Socialist = make capitalism nicer.
That said a democratic socialist might appear as a social democrat when doing baby steps to gain power in the anti-socialist hellhole that is the US. Free buses, rent freeze at first, then replace capitalism from the NYC mayoral office. 😄
Maybe a little? The sweet spot is probably somewhere between these two, at least as far as I can see, there is a lot of overlap, if not in theory then in practice. No matter where America goes next, or what it calls itself, having a strong safety net and a great spring board for everyone to get a start in life would really go a long way, if not all the way, to finally realising the American Dream. If nothing else, the fact that Mamdani got elected is reason to dare to hope again. Something I dont think anyone has done in 20+ years.
I still think it's bad branding. A Democratic Socialist is, semantically, a Socialist. It implies that the social safety nets and limits on capitalism are intended as a stepping stone to full socialism, which I think most Americans don't want. If that isn't the intention, all the more reason to use a different branding. "Social Democrat" would not have the same connotation. It seems like the label has been worn proudly, especially by Bernie Sanders, for so long that it's been accepted as the right label, but IMO it was a regrettable choice which makes it unnecessarily hard for the left to gain mainstream support.
You're talking as if the label has no real meaning and is just an accessory. Consider the possibility Zohran calls himself a Democratic Socialist because that's what he actually believes in. It's not just branding, it's a statement of intent. His platform may just be social democratic, but his long term vision does seem to be full socialism.
Socialist: Wants to replace capitalism entirely.[...]
Democratic Socialist: Wants to keep democracy
I don't know if you meant it that way, but the two are not exclusive. Democracy does not require capitalism and vice versa. Some would argue capitalism is counter to democracy because the concentration of wealth is a concentration of power that needs to be avoided in democracy.
Socialism and even communism are originally deeply democratic ideas. Remember the soviet union? Of course Stalin just used it as a label, but *soviet means council. It should have been governed by a hierarchy of councils of increasing spheres of influence democratically deciding matters that concerned the people they represented (from city block council, factory council, [...] up to national level). That was the original idea until the authoritarians took over.
Some would argue capitalism is counter to democracy
I'd say that capitalism is violently incompatible with democracy - that's the whole reason they send violent goon squads out every time people start doing things democratically.
These are the same fuckers who bombed half my country and sent in CIA death squads to kill my people, all to keep Russia out of this hemisphere, they now suck Putin Cock and sell him the White House. Yet they pretend Mamdani is the red menace.
The man had more detailed plans than I ever saw from Trump. From any presidential candidate, honestly. This just feels like the standard right-wing willful ignorance.
The owner of the New York Post is News Corp, the media conglomerate founded by Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch first bought the paper in 1976, then repurchased it in 1993 after a brief sale.
Holy crap is that real?
....
Yup!
https://nypost.com/cover/november-5-2025/
Well I found a fun new wallpaper, thanks!
He should frame it and put it on his office wall
I'd love to see it as the backdrop in the press office for any live event
And finish off each presser with the same pose
If he can get his hands on a copy, I hear it was quickly out of stock at newstands this morning. They're already up on eBay.
That's one way to sell papers, I guess!
Based
God, how I wish that US Democrats were even half as absolutely based as the right wing makes them sound.
Amazing how they seemingly do not know what any of this means, as they're getting several symbols and ideologies/systems mixed up.
"Socialism = Communism" - The highly educated right.
social democracy = socialism = communism = USSR. Why do we even have some many different words?
Yeah, we should just, like, convert to 0 and 1, where 0 means no or bad, and 1 means yes or good, depending on the context.
i agree... sorry, i mean, 1
It's to devalue the words themselves - if you do it fast enough the masses literally stop taking the concepts behind the words seriously. And stop talking about it. "Communism" is a great example of that.
And pre-cald-war's anti-communism propaganda (there still was anticommunist propaganda back then too) folk in the USA actually got educated (by their own independent citizens) what communism literally is, the meaning of the word, what it relates to and what it doesn't relate to (especially 'the political gov system').
I've noticed their president uses
"unconditional""unconstitutional" a lot (for everything against their agenda without any relation to the constitution or any explanation ofc).Same thing.
Do you mean unconstitutional?
Oh, ffs, lol, yes, unautostitutional decorrected.
they know. they are pandering to their audience.
If I ever become part of their target audience, somebody take me out back and put me out of my misery.
Just buy some Tide Pods. You'll know it's time when they start looking appetizing.
Idiots ?
Sometimes the right does all the work of writing the satire for us
The Onion might as well pack up lmao
This year must have been really frustrating for those poor souls
Thats what makes for the funny here
That sounds great and all but the shit-fountain shit-circulation system isn't perfectly enclosed & self-contained - it's spraying everywhere & they artificially have to add fresh diarrhea on an hourly basis to keep the enthusiasts happy.
I love how they put "The Red Apple" as though red isn't a natural apple colour.
I thought AAPL got new democratic leadership as all megacorps should.
... I don't think I have ever seen the rightoids more triggered, shitting and pissing, crying and whining.
God damn.
Oh well, stay mad I guess.
Mamdani should troll them by instituting five year plans for the city’s development.
He already kinda' did - his plan for the minimum wage increase to $30/hr is a five year plan (supposed to fully be enacted by 2030)
Hats off to the graphic designer, that looks sick
The designer could be a secret socialist.
The designer mistakenly sent forward their personal fanfic project instead of what the boss asked for.
That just makes him look more badass
These people are so out of touch it's actually hilarious, for some reason they think that people still live in the cold war era, like throwing around some ancient language and random symbols should make the people afraid or something...fucken pathetic
In my experience, it still does for conservatives and many born before the mid seventies. None of them can tell you why or even what any of the terms or symbols mean, but they've been told all their lives those things are bad and have never stopped to wonder why.
Luckily the brain washing era is almost over, it's time for new blood and fresh ideas, nothing rooted in irrational fear of anything or anyone we don't understand, if people are willing, and it seems that most are, things can hopefully change the better, we had enough of the same ancient people deciding which world my 12 year old should grow up in
Oh you sweet, summer child. Corporate social media is a much more effective propaganda tool than any Cold War era stuff could ever hope to be.
While I agree with you that's way more aggressive, and flat out crazy, but Mamdani win is living proof that there's still a glimpse of hope, just looks at the millions they spent to make sure that he never comes to power, and still failed, the change has to start somewhere, right?
I with that were true but it's worse than ever. Corporate and government propaganda pervades every aspect of people's lives in the United States.
Their target audience is boomers. Now if only they still had the Russophobia that they did back then…
Agreed, thank god the majority of the voters are not in this age group, imagine the horror
Some Lemmy users got it covered.
Yeah but we need that good old-fashioned vigilance against Russian propaganda … now the same folks swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
Some do. Most are still busy swallowing their own government propaganda. And it's hard to spot when we're bombarded from birth and (excuse the well-worn cliché) the memory hole has become an ever-expanding black hole.
My memory hole is sore from overuse (I don't know this cliché), so pardon my crude innuendo.
https://nypost.com/2025/11/05/us-news/new-york-posts-cover-on-zohran-mamdani-election-sold-out-in-nyc-and-already-being-resold-on-e-bay/
https://nypost.com/2025/11/05/shopping/we-turned-our-pun-filled-mayor-mamdani-cover-into-commemorative-merch/
At some point the smear campaigns go from frustrating to somehow funny.
"Ah yes, the "working people need to be able to afford housing and food and transportation" guy. He's the literal reincarnation of the entire Soviet Union. Don't ask us to explain how, something something socialism."
For those that dont know the difference:
Socialist: Wants to replace capitalism entirely. The idea is that workers or the state should own the means of production (factories, land, major industries) so wealth isn’t concentrated in private hands.
Democratic Socialist: Wants to keep democracy and some market economy, but make it fairer. They push for strong social welfare, workers’ rights, public services, and limits on corporate power. Basically, capitalism with guard rails that prioritise people over profit.
To dumb it down even further, think of Democratic Socialism as what you have today in the US, but with a safety net and better start for everyone in life.
Even further for those of you with room temp IQs
Socialist = smash capitalism. Democratic Socialist = make capitalism nicer.
Im pretty sure youre mixing up democratic socialist with social democrat
A democratic socialist wants socialism, they just want to do it through gradual reform
That said a democratic socialist might appear as a social democrat when doing baby steps to gain power in the anti-socialist hellhole that is the US. Free buses, rent freeze at first, then replace capitalism from the NYC mayoral office. 😄
Maybe a little? The sweet spot is probably somewhere between these two, at least as far as I can see, there is a lot of overlap, if not in theory then in practice. No matter where America goes next, or what it calls itself, having a strong safety net and a great spring board for everyone to get a start in life would really go a long way, if not all the way, to finally realising the American Dream. If nothing else, the fact that Mamdani got elected is reason to dare to hope again. Something I dont think anyone has done in 20+ years.
Communism was just a red herring?
I still think it's bad branding. A Democratic Socialist is, semantically, a Socialist. It implies that the social safety nets and limits on capitalism are intended as a stepping stone to full socialism, which I think most Americans don't want. If that isn't the intention, all the more reason to use a different branding. "Social Democrat" would not have the same connotation. It seems like the label has been worn proudly, especially by Bernie Sanders, for so long that it's been accepted as the right label, but IMO it was a regrettable choice which makes it unnecessarily hard for the left to gain mainstream support.
You're talking as if the label has no real meaning and is just an accessory. Consider the possibility Zohran calls himself a Democratic Socialist because that's what he actually believes in. It's not just branding, it's a statement of intent. His platform may just be social democratic, but his long term vision does seem to be full socialism.
I don't know if you meant it that way, but the two are not exclusive. Democracy does not require capitalism and vice versa. Some would argue capitalism is counter to democracy because the concentration of wealth is a concentration of power that needs to be avoided in democracy.
Socialism and even communism are originally deeply democratic ideas. Remember the soviet union? Of course Stalin just used it as a label, but *soviet means council. It should have been governed by a hierarchy of councils of increasing spheres of influence democratically deciding matters that concerned the people they represented (from city block council, factory council, [...] up to national level). That was the original idea until the authoritarians took over.
I'd say that capitalism is violently incompatible with democracy - that's the whole reason they send violent goon squads out every time people start doing things democratically.
Reform or revolution.
These are the same fuckers who bombed half my country and sent in CIA death squads to kill my people, all to keep Russia out of this hemisphere, they now suck Putin Cock and sell him the White House. Yet they pretend Mamdani is the red menace.
As a New Yorker, I urge you all to remember this is what lies below the surface of the NY post editorial staff.
Never, ever trust this rag I wouldn't even use as bird cage paper, as a source for any facts.
It goes beyond bias, they warp the truth in sometimes subtle, sometimes overt ways.
Fuck you, NY Pest
I can’t wait for him to change the name to Antifa Jihad City
Me too! Let's make some Conservatives cry!
“TNE YAED ARRLE” (Тне Яеd Аррlе) goes hard
Ah yes, the yaed apple
The man had more detailed plans than I ever saw from Trump. From any presidential candidate, honestly. This just feels like the standard right-wing willful ignorance.
I'm printing this and hanging it on my wall.
The owner of the New York Post is News Corp, the media conglomerate founded by Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch first bought the paper in 1976, then repurchased it in 1993 after a brief sale.
That's how his character on South Park should look.
This is up there with "BAT CHILD FOUND IN CAVE".
Expect 30% of Americans to fall for it.
Fucking rag
This is badass
They're so fucking hurt XD. It's literally not going to affect 99% of the people who see this headline
Only people that find NYP artices useful are the MiB
Man, those people have serious issues.
Loved the Nov 5 issue
the yaed apple
this looks like an endorsement to me