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“I was just caught off guard and had no answer for my grandsons. All my gay friends [know] what’s up, they been calling me with love,” Snoop Dogg wrote. “My bad for not knowing the answers for a 6 yr old 😳. Teach me how to learn I’m not perfect.”

Good on his friends for calling him in.

Whatever his reasons for "going woke", I prefer to see this route to the JK Rowling route.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Yeah, if we can't accept people changing their minds, then we will always lose everything every time.

This is exactly what we should be looking for...

Grandad says something bigoted.

Younger people educate grandad.

Grandad publicly acknowledges that he was wrong and gives others an opportunity for others to do the same?

How do you complain about that?

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Preach.

When people come around we have to respect it. Some jokes along the way are cool too especially here which is practically offline (small circle of friends).

Hopefully we can all remember a stupid view we once had and if we apply the Lucky 10,000 concept we know that we happened to be challenged on it when we were young. Someone was older when they started to see things more equitably? Welcome to the light side!

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hypnicjerkreply
lemmy.world

this isn't about love and acceptance. it's about marketing lmao. snoop said some shit he knew would get him in the headlines and now he's using that as an opportunity to plug his new TV show. he's been doing this for decades. maybe lgbt people are tired of their struggles being exploited for a chance to sell eyeballs to advertisers?

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hypnicjerkreply
lemmy.world

he does this shit all the time lol remember snoop lion? remember snoop quitting weed?

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Snoop has always been extremely tactical in his decisions and statements. His image is carefully crafted and maintained and i agree with you 100%

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Oh how about Uncle Tom playing Trump’s inauguration and this is all a publicity stunt to move passed that noise?

Fuck this bitch ass forever

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

Being black and LGBT is really hard, and if the black community doesn't cancel him and maybe even listens, this is huge.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

Bingo. This is literally playing life on insane difficulty. Anything that can help is a boon.

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If he does it's rinse and repeat. When it comes to individuals we can never give up on them.

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Oh come off it. Nobody in "the Black community" is listening to Calvin Broadus.

It's hella weird to act like "the Black community" needs to learn to be less homophobic from this wack 🥷🏾. I need you to look at the white community making drag shows illegal, burning books about queer people, and firing Black women while you're at it.

Americans have a problem with homophobia. Stop acting like Black people are singularly homophobic.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

People really need to cut people some slack. If this is genuine and I feel it is he's learning. People are allowed to change.

Judge someone by not just their past but their potential.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

Judge someone by not just their past but their potential.

A dual edged sword. I would moderate that by saying whether they strive to work toward actualization of that potential, within the means available or presented to them.

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leminal.space

Nah, trust but verify.

Calvin Broadus is 53 years old and was famous before the turn of century. He didn't accidentally fall into Trump's campaign celebrations and he decided on his own to complain about gay people for no reason. If he didn't expect to catch push back for that then he can demonstrate a change, not just do a cameo and expect everyone to forget AAAALLL the shady shit he's done over the years.

Judge someone like you got some sense, not like their latest PR campaign is the gospel truth.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

So for the Trump thing. He's rich and has been for decades. He wasn't always rich. Sometimes we need reminders of where we came from. That's exceedingly hard when everyone around you is highly likely to echo beliefs that may not resonate with how he was raised

For the LGBT thing.... I'm speaking from experience, the black experience is not the white one. Gay is very much not cool even if they say it is.

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leminal.space

Speak for yourself, buddy. Being Black and Gay is Cool As Fuck.

The Black Experience is not the white one, but I never said it was, so I'm not sure why you're telling me what I already know.

Nothing you said suggests that we need to believe the latest press release is sincere. If Calvin wants to change his actions great. I'm just saying don't get your hopes up about someone who has already blown through several redemption arcs.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

I am happy you are in an environment where being black and gay is cool as fuck. That is not the norm and I'd argue lots of statistics back that up.

Regardless, back in the topic I think we both agree just you're taking a pessimistic approach while I'm trying to be optimistic.

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Our lived experiences certainly align and hope is so so important. I understand prime being suspicious, but we'll have to see. Also, giving room to grow in one area doesn't mean we think someone is perfect. And no one is perfect, there is always room for work on ourselves.

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Whatever his reasons for “going woke”, I prefer to see this route to the JK Rowling route.

Yeah, mixed feelings, it's kind of like when massive corporations go pinkwashing. Sure, it's better than the alternative, but they're not your friend and you can't trust them.

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lemmy.world

lol covering his sexist ass for the sake of his profitability.

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lemmy.world

Whenever I see Eminem im like “dude smile, you’re a 50 something billionaire, nobody thinks you’re hard”

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also like, he's already been hard and genuine, why does he need to keep trying? he made it, he got popular and make music about how his life sucked and whatnot, just retire.

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DarkCloudreply
lemmy.world

Are gangsters preferable? Doesn't sound like either end of that spectrum is great, but I'd prefer my suburb be full of posers.

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DarkCloudreply
lemmy.world

But... What crimes do they do to qualify as gangster then?

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feddit.org

As long as they are real gangsters.

A lot of people get confused with the tryhards that dress flashy and show everyone their money as if they are a Hollywood hip-hop celebrity.

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Its authentic. Snoop came by the gangster lifestyle honestly, he grew up that way.

Changing your views to be more progressive, when you are person with a public image, may be disingenuous. I'm not going to form an opinion on his true motives, but plenty of people will.

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Frankly, it’s the most “gangster” thing he’s done in a while. Most gangsters are bigots. It’s a low education background

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Most of them are "studio gangsters" who tell imaginary stories they just make up.

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NotSteve_reply
piefed.ca

Honestly in this political climate, I'll take it. He could have easily taken a hard right turn

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athairmorreply
lemmy.world

He played at Trumps inaugural Crypto Ball.

You can’t turn much farther right than that.

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PKscopereply
lemmy.world

I'm just trying to imagine Trump watching a Snoop Dogg performance and wondering what fresh hell he's be dropped into. Pretty far from Ava Maria.

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In Bo Burnham voice: His $27 8-packs weren't selling very well, those sorts of problems.

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lemmy.world

There is always something to critique, huh? I think it's positive that he has changed his stance regarding LGBTQ+ and even made a children's song spreading the message that love is love. We need more inclusion, acceptance and tolerance in this society.

If Snoop is smart enough to spread a positive message and earn money at the same time, then good for him. At least he is trying to spread positivity to the world.

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All he saw was his bottom line dropping and backpedaled.

Did you forget the Trump event he played at? 😂

That’s not someone who has goodness in their heart. He’s an opportunist and business man who is more likely to end up heading events in Dubai with Dave Chappell over doing something meaningful to spite the oligarchs that are actively seeking to kill LGBTQ+ individuals.

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lemmy.world

FUCK SNOOP FOREVER FOR PLAYING TRUMP’S INAUGURATION

Oh he’s not a bigot anymore? Cool thanks for telling us Uncle Tom

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lemmy.today

Right, why can't they be more like MAGAs, who would never weaponize the government to persecute their political enemies? Right, Leticia James or James Comey? (Not Bolton, he deserves it. Not for the reasons Trump is giving, but he's still such a terrible scumbag, even Republicans hate him).

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What others read when they see your words:

My morals aren’t high enough to be a good person and to vote for the good guys

ok bye then weirdo

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seejurreply
lemmy.world

Uncle Tom is not racism, is an apt description

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lemmy.world

No, mate. Its racist as fuck. ie "Youre not a real black man, because you do white people things.". Which is, wait for it, racism.

Call many white guys "Uncle Tom"? Bet you dont, because no one calls white people "race traitor" except for...

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Bloomcolereply
lemmy.world

Another one that doesn't understand the Uncle Tom concept.

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SailorFuzzreply
lemmy.world

log off, touch grass. No one said any of that because that's not what it means. You baited yourself into that position and then got angry about it. Go get some fresh air.

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You can keep on saying it, but it doesnt make it true. You all jumped on the colour of his skin to attack him. Its actually sad how willing you all are to over it look it, because hes not on your side.

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

Uncle Tom has a different meaning. There are terms like Oreos, or coconut that imply a black person is black on the outside, but white on the inside, as in, they act white, but appear black. I can see how that could be perceived as racist.

Uncle Tom has a specific meaning a black person being overly deferential to, or appeasing white people, as a sellout to their own race. It comes from an old character in a book of a “virtuous” slave. It can also be used for any minority person complicit in their own groups oppression.

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lemmy.world

You sound MAGA making excuses for why its OK to round up brown people.

The actions of snoop, have nothing whatsoever to do with the colour of skin. You, and all the other racists, are making about his skin in a "no true Scotsman" fashion. Youre the same gaggle of cave brained cunts who bemoaned Carlton not being "black enough" back in the 90s because he liked Tom Jones.

Being a shitty person has NOTHING to do with the colour of someones skin. And if you think it does, well, you know what you are...

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

Nop, just trying to educate on the terms as you seem to be using them erroneously.

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dickalanreply
lemmy.world

Your education has failed you or you are some kind of troll if you really think what they said was racist

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dickalanreply
lemmy.world

He is a black man sucking up to white people in the worst way, I'm gonna keep my definition and you can keep yours, please don't attempt to speak to me again, you're really quite annoying

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lemmy.world

Its not really that we have differing definitions, mate. If that you see it as fine to be racist, and I dont. There is ZERO reason to bring his skin colour into the conversation. Yet here you all are. Double, and even tripling down on being racist as fuck.

This is the problem with echo chambers. You cant even see when youre being the very thing you hate.

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dickalanreply
lemmy.world

He's a black man doing the white man's work for him, that is my definition an uncle Tom, I don't know why you're after me bro find bigger problems in life than me. Also how dare you come To me talking about respect when I indicated I did not want to speak with you further, you're a fucking weird weirdo

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Anyone who has shilled for the fascist regime needs to do a lot of work to regain any kind of respect. If he's not going to use his platform to unapologetically oppose Trump then he deserves none.

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This is the kind of criticism I can get behind. Good on him for changing his view on this, but everything else is still problematic.

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lemmy.world

Good on him for walking it back, but you have friends that are LGBT and you still felt comfortable saying that stuff? Snoop can get his bag elsewhere because I won't support him again

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meh knowing Snoop I'd take what he says with a grain of salt and see what sponsorships/deals he has coming up and if any are potentially backed or support the LGBTQ+ community

the mans opinions change based on where the cheques come from. If he did make this change in thought without any financial basis then good for him.

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Bloomcolereply
lemmy.world

Bare minimum, still not as horrible as those sell outs like Ice T, Ice cube and especially Public Enemy

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

God damnit I bit an onion that wasn't even there lol.

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lemmy.zip

The source, A.V. Club, was founded as a sister company to The Onion, just not satirical. It was part of the same company until last year or so.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

Well thanks for the benefit of the doubt. But I totally face planted and deserve it.

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Such a beautiful, slow motion faceplant though, a 9 from the Russian judge.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

Apparently lol. After his previous stances, I thought no way is it real. It's like MTG fighting for the ACA. I was like, no fuckin way is this real. But 2025 yo. Everything is ridiculous, nothing is probable, everything is dangerous and wildly likely. Who fuckin knows at this point? I honestly wouldn't be surprised by flying scorpions at this point. Like you keep assuming it can't get worse but it always does. So fucking flying scorpions doesn't sound that far fetched anymore.

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lemmy.today

it seems MTG has a falling out with the rest of the gop for some time now, which is why shes fighting them now.

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Sign a strike card https://www.generalstrikeus.com/ and tell your friends, too.

P. S. Sorry, I reflexively posted this in my panicked desperation, but I don't mean to hijack the thread like a bot. I think I'm just amped up for the protest today.

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lemmy.world

Regardless of his actions I trust Snoop with absolutely nothing, he has no morals the only driving factor is money. Like I love some of his music but don't take anything he says at face value; he will partner with both left wing and right wing at the same time just to get that little more cash

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How far we have fallen that not being a terroristic bigot lunatic is considered left wing.

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lemmy.world

Snoop dog traded a actual lifetime of G credit away for a paycheck to sing and dance for a wannabe dictator.

I made a 90s playlist recently. Fully omitted snoop dog. He has some bangers but I'm good without him.

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lemmy.today

he thinks partnering martha stewart a rich white lady will make him okay with other whites.

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leminal.space

Ay let's not drag Martha into this, my girl did her time and never snitched. A real G lol

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I mean, I like that he very publicly walked back his homophobic remarks and tried to make amends. A lot of people look up to celebrities, so when they show people a good example, I am for it.

Especially since he worked with a queer organization to show that homosexuals are just regular people for an audience of children, this feels more than just an empty apology.

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Soulgreply
ani.social

Didn't you know that people can't change and the worst thing they've done represents them no matter what they do

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lemmy.today

only if hes not being disingenuous about, and not because of convenience or pr.

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Sure, but the original issue was a comment and a personal choice in choosing media. Making an official retraction and appearing to try to educate people is an appropriate response to this.

If this was penance for a larger transgression, like funding an anti-LGBTQ cause, yeah this wouldn't be enough.

Chances are, we will never know his intentions. If you ask me, I really don't care about Snoop Dogg. However, I know a lot of people look up to celebrities like Snoop Dogg and would take his example to heart. In a sea of poor examples of behavior, I really like this.

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lemmy.world

And the playing for a fascist dictator dancing like a bitch on his red stage? What about that? Because that shit ain’t going away

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lemmy.world

This dude will do and say anything to stay relevant for even a second longer. I don't believe you you bitch ass chihuahua

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SkunkWorkzreply
lemmy.world

Same with Dre and Ice Cube. Like in how many movies did Cube play a cop.

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I can’t believe this soft ass theatre kid who decided he wanted to be a piece of shit gangster after the fact, and ended up with a murder beef among other things, ever fooled people into thinking he was a good guy or role model. He’s always been an idiot and im sure he says far worse things behind closed doors.

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Honestly yes, people may look at him fondly but he made stupid decisions that cost him his life. He should have just stayed in the studio

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lemmy.world

I will always give Snoop this; Man been with his wife through thick and thin. He got rich and famous, could have kicked her to the curb for a super model, or 10. Tells me he has some sort of moral core.

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MuskyMelonreply
lemmy.world

Is that sarcasm?

Nonetheless, I give him credit for staying married for as long as he did. It's not like he left his wife while she had cancer.

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he got paid to say both of the thing. he couldnt care less about gay people.

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sh.itjust.works

People here give Snoop so much hate yet majority of his music isn’t about being a stand up citizen, it’s always been about getting weed, money and the occasional shorty.

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lemmy.world

This guy, man. Every other week it seems there's a reason for the Internet to do a 180 on their collective opinion of him. In this case, credit is due. We could all have more humility as a society.

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lemmy.ca

Do people just turn into dicks when they get older or was he always like this

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As Billy Connolly ones said, if you’re a miserable young bastard, you’ll just be an old miserable bastard.

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lemmy.world

Well, at least he eventually did the right thing in the end. A lot of people in the comments are still roasting him for potential being disingenuous, but I'll give credit where it's due - biting people's heads off after they chose to do the right thing after (well deserved) backlash doesn't send the correct message to others that it's worth it to listen to negative feedback rather than dig in their heels deeper.

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The end? Is he dead now? Was this some kind of death-bed confession or something? Did he at least donate his time to the cause that he got paid so much to tear down?

Oh, no, he's just getting paid by someone new now. He doesn't need credit, he cashed in just fine on MAGA and now he'd also like a check from the gays. The correct message is 'Working for the nazis leaves a stain on your reputation that a compensated non-apology will not wash away'

Are you by any chance a battered spouse, eager to accept any insincerity?

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Welcome to lemmy. Nothing changes, and if something change then it's false and if it isn't then it's too little too late. This site is so bloody hellbent on being downer collective that it's slowly driving me away.

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lemmy.world

I'm old enough to have watched gangsta rap turn into glitter rap. Dawg, you sold out. Just own it.

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Dumb ass ninja saw his dollars disappearing. So now he protects his money train. I’m done with Snoop. He’s an Uncle Tom mother fucker. He can get fucked.

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lemmy.today

he smoked too much weed that made him dumb, and TRUMP loves dumb people: "I love the poorly educated"

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Zinkreply
programming.dev

For real! In the first screen of comments here I've seen two that mention weed as a bad thing.

Weed is making my day much more comfortable so far, and I am being productive as hell with the things I actually care about. Working on my hobby projects outside while watching the dog I'm dog sitting play with our own dogs. Then in a bit, some more time on the computer here for some LAN game time with my son.

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angrystegoreply
lemmy.world

It's good that it works for you. I have friends with different experience. Weed is not black and white, it's more complicated.

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Oh yeah, that's true with weed as well as with every other piece of the puzzle I've put together over the past several years to find some peace and happiness in life.

I've described it as being like we all have different customized user manuals for our brains & bodies, but we don't get a copy and have to reverse engineer it. Even in my case it's not simply just "weed good" because some strains won't even work well for me like my usual ones do.

I've had bad experiences too. It's just very positive on the whole for me because there's the short-term effect of being essentially a pain reliever, and the long-term benefit of knowing what it's like to have good days again, and that makes it easier to find my way back to that state even when I'm not using any cannabis for a while.

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A lot of of "old media" celebrities are big into Trump and the right wing these days. I guess it is new things being pushed for by progressives like trans rights and acceptance, even more equality for women, etc make them uncomfortable for a variety of reasons. So they retreat to something that feels safe by comparison.

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Well, they both have sex trafficked women. (Snoop claims to have put together and managed a prostitution ring in 2003)

Hes just showing solidarity to a fellow criminal.

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So someone paid him to change his opinion? Not exactly news. Dude is a walking "for sale" sign.

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lemmy.world

Good. Let the love flow through you. Give in to the light.

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Maan that's a naff music video, Dogg. I accept your penance, welcome back to humanity.

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strange, all the potheads I know could give two fucks about silly hangups from the last century...

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Naichreply
lemmings.world

Don't know why you are being downvoted. Smoking huge quantities of weed really does fuck up your head.

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Naichreply
lemmings.world

Made my brother in law depressed and paranoid so he did dumb things.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

It didn't "make" your brother in law do or feel anything, he needs to take responsibility for his own actions.

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Naichreply
lemmings.world

Well, he's dead now. He hid it well. The first thing we knew about it was when he disappeared, leaving an insane paranoid note. But hey, I'm sure you lot all know better than me about what happened.

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A known side effect of taking a large amount of cannabis is paranoia. He smoked a LOT, so although it's not definite, it's a bit of a smoking gun.

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I’m sure a stranger does, because you clearly have no clue. That’s like saying Tylenol causes autism lol

The best people are saying it, so it must be true lol

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

damn I guess weed just made him stoopid, me the dumb i guess, thank u for ur informed insights

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