Barack Obama accuses Republicans of wanting to ‘rig the next election’ in ad supporting Governor Newsom
Obama's comments appear in a new video supporting Gavin Newsom's Proposition 50 which would allow the California legislature to draw new congressional boundaries ahead of the midterms
Barack Obama has entered the political fray ahead of November's special election in California, accusing Republicans of attempting to "rig the next election" in a new ad backing Governor Gavin Newsom's Proposition 50, a ballot measure that could reshape the state's congressional map.
"Republicans want to steal enough seats in Congress to rig the next election and wield unchecked power for two more years," Obama says in the 30-second ad, urging voters to approve the proposal. "You can stop Republicans in their tracks."
https://www.latintimes.com/barack-obama-accuses-republicans-wanting-rig-next-election-ad-supporting-governor-newsom-590500Open linkView original on lemmy.world681
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He ain’t fucking wrong.
They also rigged the last election, and every election for several decades.
If all of the Geriatric Old Pedophiles various attempts at election fraud were prosecuted the US wouldn't be a failing fascist state today.
"Purging" voters, "gerrymandering", etc are morally and ethically no different than election fraud; you've already chosen treason against democracy.
This entire attack on blue cities is so obviously an extension of the ballot box violence scare tactics used by the red hats during the last election.
I don’t see anyone pointing it out in the media.
Aren't almost all cities blue?
I don’t play games with fools.
Please don’t be a fool.
"They rigged the election, and I became president,"
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-rigged-election-president/
He is only telling a part of the truth, the palatable part, while disingenuously omitting the rest.
He’s wrong if he’s supporting Newsom
The smallest balls are still the biggest in a room full of eunuchs... The only thing good about Newsom is his PR team's social media campaigns, and sadly that puts him far ahead of everyone else. Literally nothing else makes him worthy of consideration (or even mention). Dems have gone out of their way to be as inept and complicit as possible, and have purged nearly all authenticity from the party. It's a hollow shell for capital interests wrapped in a pride flag and a costume of 'civility.' It's fucking embarrassing that he's as popular as he is right now, but that's the best you can get from 'liberals' who see Bernie and Mamdani as a threat.
You better start finding a better candidate bro before the lesser evil is nominated then.
You can't complain about what is happening around you unless you give a solution.
AOC
It's so funny how people get all up in arms defending shitbag neolibs as if they have no other option when the democratic socialist are literally right there.
People like the guy you responded to are why we keep losing, fucking crabs in a bucket.
Hear hear! I hope she gets to be the next nominate.
This is the stupidest take, give me one reason why? Am I also not allowed to complain about the rising cancer rates without giving a solution for those? I sure as shit better not hear you complain about AI ever again unless you can tell me how to fix it too. And global warming? Better just shut the fuck up about it until you personally have a plan on how to fix that.
All this phrase is is a cudgel to shut up people you don't want to have to address.
Your downvoters are weirdly quiet, almost like they have nothing substantial to reply with
There's MANY better candidates. Problem is the actual good ones would never dream of aligning themselves with either major party. It's why everything needs to be nuked from orbit.
Yes you can complain and should complain, probably louder. Have fun licking boot, people like you are why we got Trump.
Be the change you want to see, complain all you want but all you are doing is setting yourself and the world around you for more complaining.
(Spoilers for disco elysium) You remind me of that disco elysium communist ending, where all the comrades end up wasting their lives complaining about the bourgeoisie without actually doing anything about it, getting drunk every night each taking turns judging which sickly misery inducing rant was the most powerful.
"Be the change you want to see"
All I've seen you do is shut down conversation with bullshit about how neolibs are our only option.
Is that what you want to see?
People on their highhorse bullshit like this is exactly how we wound up with trump.
Real world is the levellers and the diggers and good ol' Oliver Cromwell.
Everyone complaining. Everyone calling for change. King killed. No one had a plan for after.
Systems will only change if there is an environment conducive of that change.
I would argue Obama knows this. Change is incremental.
I am tired of people with your attitude. Holy shit you’re an insufferable group.
Newsom is a transphobe, hates the homeless, supports Israel, and thinks we need to continue Kirk's great work.
That guy, out of 8 billion, is your champion of freedom and democracy? Because his 19 year old intern mocks Trump on social media?
Edit: Go ahead and keep down voting me. I know what I stand for and support. You putting this half-nazi on a pedestal for the most vapid hollow shit is not the moral superiority you think it is. People look at the US and call us fascist inbreds who should be quarantined precisely because vaguely center right posers like Newsom are supposed to be some paragon of American progressivism. Shit is embarassing.
*Citation needed.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/gavin-newsom-breaks-with-democrats-on-trans-athletes-in-sports-00215436
https://lalgbtcenter.org/vanguard/press-releases/statement-governor-newsom-betrays-queer-and-transgender-californians-with-health-budget-cuts-says-los-angeles-lgbt-center/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/newsom-urges-california-cities-and-counties-to-ban-homeless-encampments
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/10/07/governor-newsom-statement-marking-one-year-since-hamas-attack-on-israel/
Nowhere near as hard as you think it is
you rn
Except that sources are good things cause otherwise people can just say whatever shit they want.
Not when it's a deflection from a dogshit argument
No one reads your silly children’s cartoons and memes. Go away.
You're just mad that it represents your unhappy ass.
It's pitiful to try to use sources as a deflection because you made a dogshit point
Enjoy more trump then
The answer isn’t Newsom or Trump. I’d take Warren, despite her age. I’d take AOC.
If newsom wins the primary then you take newsom in the general.
I don't want him to win the primary either but I'm not stupid.
I’m sorry, but Newsom gives me the same ick as Trump. I would consider third party if Newsom is nominated. That’s how much I don’t want him to be president, and I voted for both Biden and Harris.
Remember when Biden and the Democrats reversed Trump’s damage by keeping his border restrictions and asylum crackdowns "for now, just until the system’s ready"? upholding several of his fossil fuel leases because "our hands are tied"? dragging their feet on reinstating clean water and emissions rules because the EPA needed more studies? maintaining bloated Pentagon budgets and arms sales while calling it "responsible leadership"? doing nothing to undo Trump’s tax cuts for corporations, but telling working people that the economy is "booming"? forgetting about the Stream Protection Rule, union rights, and the public option once the election was over? and still treating whistleblowers, immigrants, and Palestine like they’re political inconveniences?
The adults will be back in the room with Newsom.
Newsom’s stance against human rights is concerning. Newsom’s sophomoric trolling against Trump is not Presidential. If his campaign did it? Sure. But this is coming from him. I don’t want a man child in office. Newsom is captive to corporations. That’s not what I want for my President.
That last line was sarcastic btw, I completely agree with you. Newsom is a fascist and the DNC doesn't support progressive candidates. America needs a revolution, yesterday.
AOC is my top choice, but I know everybody has a million reasons why America wouldn't elect her as president.
But, I had this thought the other day, and I know this is nobody's dream team, but possibly the odd couple situation that just might work. Am I crazy for thinking a Pritzker-AOC ticket might actually have a decent chance?
The Pritzkers are literally the billionaire family of the Hyatt hotel chain fortune. They are, if anything, one part of the problem with the democratic establishment. If you want there to be zero change in society when it comes to taxing the wealthy to create social safety nets, JB is your guy.
Realistically there is zero chance that an actual progressive and a Pritzker could ever function on one ticket. Thats like Bernie running with Bezos, it makes no sense
Pritzker is a guy who comes from money but actually does try and govern for the people. I live in Illinois and he did a bang up job for COVID, is actively doing things to try and fight/resist ICE and shows up in person to talk to the people, has signed vaccination protections to law, he helped to get stalled projects (like road repairs) going, he’s helped with education funding and requiring homeschooling to have more standards, and more.
Yeah, he’s not perfect but he’s at least one who fucking fights for the people and is trying to find ways to make things better for us in Illinois. I truly believe he would do the same on a national level.
Definitely among the top five people that should be president. AOC is my first pick, but I would be alright with Pritzker too. Newsom is vaguely acceptable, in the sense that he at least has the ability to lead and isn't a complete idiot. I guess he would at #10.
Nobody hates Sociopathic Oligarchs more than I do, but there have been cases of ultra-wealthy people being sympathetic to the people.
The best example is Franklin Roosevelt. By my general way of thinking, I never would have supported him based on his wealth alone. And yet he went in to do more for working people than any 10 presidents combined.
So while my general attitude is to NEVER support a billionaire for office, I am prepared to make exceptions for the right candidate, but they have a very high bar to clear to get my support.
Pritzker is looking like a possibility, but I'm still deciding. I'd love AOC, but she's problematic at this stage. I can't stand establishment Dems like Newsome. But I will vote for anyone who vows to purge MAGA from our government and our society, reconfigure our government to remove MAGA advantages, and then follows through.
We have to deal decisively with MAGA before we can do any thing else. We can deal with progressive policies after that.
I never said he is a bad governor or even a bad politician. I said it is antithetical for anyone who is legitimate progressive to run with him. The Prtizkers at large are the type of people who are democrats in the interest of protecting their money. Typical establishment democrats who will make limited concessions in whatever way is needed to prevent any radical change from occurring. No DemSoc or Progressive candidates or voters should be foolish enough to let the fox be in charge of the henhouse
Being better than nutjob conservative billionaires doesnt make someone a good fit to run with progressive candidates
We will see if the progressives like Mandani can do what they say. There is still a lot of resistance in law and interests against them. I think that’s why people get these aspirations to do big positive things in government and then can’t because reality hits. I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s going to take multiple years and rounds of those kinds of elections and the voters do not have that patience.
So the argument most people seem to focus on regarding AOC is that she's too far left, especially in terms of economics. If we could have an actual progressive VP, I would hope we could logically then actually have a progressive as a president.
Pritzker may be from a wealthy family, and not be extremely progressive in terms of economics, but several of his economic policies seem more progressive than a lot of establishment Democrats. They would be an odd couple, but might offset each other enough to make a good team and cast a wide net.
He raised minimum wage in his state to $15 an hour back in 2019, he passed a law to protect collective bargaining, and he passed a graduated tax law that didn't make people making $250K or less pay more in taxes.
I would say the least likeable trait, and probably the thing that would make their pairing least likely, would be his unwillingness to call for the ceasefire in Israel until October of 2024 (which sadly is still a better track record than a lot of establishment Dems).
It's also worth noting that he apparently funded his own campaign for governor with his own wealth, and that could make him less beholden to big donors like many establishment Dems.
I also think he and AOC are two of the few politicians who could really mop the floor with the MAGA narrative control bullshit, and their individual strengths and differences could make them more difficult to target with typical narrative control attacks.
I think USAmericans gotta hit the streets, now, yelling "We won't vote for Gruesome Newsom" just in case we do get a 2028 Election. If we don't destroy his campaign now, he'll be ushered to the front of the Democratic Primary like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Yup. Let's convince Biden to step down at the last possible second, and then surprised Pikachu face when the nominee is Kamala and then they don't vote.
Are you mentally challenged? I was agreeing with you... Jesus, this place is something else.
Cool. Let's have another Biden-esque presidency that just leaves Americans unsatisfied to the point where they come out en-masse and vote for Vance because "it was better under the prior administration" until they realize that, whoops! they aren't actually better under Vance, but now it's too late.
Voting Biden in 2020 as a transitional candidate obviously wasn't the right move. Establishment Dems are the reason the non-political Americans get rallied against "the Left". All that figures like Biden and Newsom do is empower "both sides" political apathy.
You guys demand democrats stand up to trump and the moment one does, you sit on them and kick them down. You guys deserve every bit of trump
Making memes online is not standing up to a fascist, thats a delusional take. Pritzker vowing to arrest people who help ICE agents is standing up to a fascist. And neither of those things alone make's a good candidate.
I like Pritzker, but vowing isn't action.
You people deserve trump
Americans are trash. You guys genocide and murder everyone even slightly brown and you elect a jackass, and suddenly you wanna play the victim. Victim to your own stupidity maybe. Call me a moron all you want, I’ve been called worse by your people for a long time. Racist trash
I just wanted a cookie.
this has little to do with campaigning for newsom… it’s about supporting the counter to republican gerrymandering
you might be right in general, but this is not that context
This is a great example of "the left" being manipulated to turn on itself. Newsom ain't great but he is better than anything my former party Republicans put forth. If he makes it through the primaries, please for the love of Satan vote for him in the general. If Republicans win again it's completely over. If I were still one I'd be completely OK with so many worse things happening. Be more scared of what is yet to come than a groveling centrist like Newsom.
Yeah, Obama is dividing the left with another power play. People don't want Newsom for a number of reasons. People want to vote for an actual leader who has principles.
Vote for him in the general regardless. Why is this so hard? Vote in the primary and show up in the general. Our voting system is so simple.
I couldn't vote for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 primary because of Obama's power play. Convincing effectively all candidates to drop out and endorse Biden was election interference.
Our voting system is already rigged and the person warning that Republicans are rigging the next election is responsible, in part.
Nah, that just encourages them to ratfuck progressives. I am not voting for Newsom in the general.
You both can be right with these seemingly opposed stances. Doesn‘t matter actually, all that matters is that the left is divided and the right isn‘t. That‘s all it takes for evil to win.
Change that!
This is my point reiterated. I don't like newsom either, but i would vote for him 1x10^100 if he were the candidate in the general. The "he is being normalized" shit is why the left loses all the time. Complain about him, but don't assume enough centrists wont vote for him in the primaries for him to be the general candidate. I'm tired of people not voting, then bitching about the current administration.
Wow you'd vote for Hitler (D) over Hitler (R/) you are very brave and smart.
The .ml is insanely consistent with being incredibly stupid. I wish I was comfortable being as dumb as you are.
So there is a line. You wouldn't vote for Literally Hitler. Good Job! How about Trump (D)? In the 90's a lot of democrats, including Dems you probably have voted for and supported online, loved Trump.
How about a President (R ) who thinks that allowing the US to use Drones to kill anyone in the world as long as the CIA has a good reason to kill them is also ok? What if that were President (D)? Any issue there?
https://lemmy.world/post/37399210
And? Of course they are going to do this shit. Good people don't rise against great evil, sort of evil people use it to slither into power.
Newsom, the Zionist guy who likes destroying homeless people's encampements for PR ain't "great". That's quite an understatement.
Newsom would be Trump if he lived in Texas. If he is the Democratic nominee in 2028 then I personally am giving up on politics. I've been fighting for a better Democratic party for 40 years, and after all that they are worse than the Republicans were when I started. No, fuck that. Newsom would be the last straw for me. If he gets the nomination, there is no saving the country anyways.
If I see you headed on a train to the camps I'll make sure go give you a thumbs up while you roll by. Giving up is pathetic. Go dig your grave and don't complain when they come for you.
Has 40 years of supporting corrupt Democrats saved us from the camps? It sure doesn't look like it to me. Camps are proceeding right on schedule. That's the whole point. At best the camps get put on hold for four years. At worst, they get diversity quotas for the guards.
Wait, you want to accelerate the camps by 4 years?
Are you honestly telling me that you expect Newsom would roll back more than some cosmetic fringes of Trump's immigration policy? Biden sure didn't. You think Newsom is going to roll back Palentir and the surveillance state? Not a chance in hell.
Will trump or the next republican do any of this either? You're asking the stupidest question when the answer is staring you in the face.
Also, to be clear, Newsom would be the worst scenario with diversified guards. If you want a four year pause, nominate Pritzker. If you want to take the country back, don't settle for the first personality MSNBC jiggles in front of your face three years out from the election.
I remember all the uninformed Democratic normie voters creaming themselves over Andrew Cuomo's Covid press conferences where he beat up Trump's response constantly. I kept hearing he could be the one for 2020 until he disgraced himself. Now He's allied with Trump and Trump's Donors, and we can't even get Schumer and Jeffries to support his Democratic opponent. And you think these people fight for you?
Cuomo is Trump in a different package. More than for any other name being thrown around for 2028, so is Newsom. He's a chameleon and a political opportunist. The only thing he hates about Trump is that he wants Trump's chair.
I will probably go Pritzker in the primary. But again, I'm not dumb enough not to fall in line during the general. I've been doing it since Hillary and regret not voting for Obama both times while I was still a registered republican. All choices on the dem ballot are better than a republican.
As if any candidate you would consider radical would have any chance in hell of winning
...why do you believe that? Kamala was the opposite of radical and lost horribly to Trump.
If anything, it's worth trying to run on something progressive or otherwise substantive, since running on status quo policies doesn't seem to be working.
She wasn't portrayed/perceived that way at all, you understand that right? You and everyone else with some political awareness might think that, but the magats and even a shitload of "centrists" (quotes because most have been captured by the magats without being aware) think she was radical.
E.g. Bernie. The most milquetoast "radical" tested
America only has an appetite for far right radicals atm, clearly.
Everybody knows that those on the far-right drip are trained to think everybody to the left of them (even a little bit) is a radical.
Liberal mainstream media did not portray her that way at all.
You're likely referring to old-school Republicans/conservatives, and they either didn't vote (because they are disenfranchised) or voted Trump, yes. Some may have voted Kamala, but not as much as she might have hoped (given her strategy to shift right).
A significant amount of people don't vote in this country and the Democrats aren't interested in capturing that demographic, nor are they interested in capturing progressive or leftist voters.
...and because they aren't trying to appeal to anyone besides people who absolutely cannot abide by Trump, they lost and will likely continue to lose in the big elections if they don't run on something to attract voters.
Who never got a chance in a general election because he got ratfucked 2x in a row by the Democratic Party et. al.
Bernie is the lesser evil here - he's milquetoast, but not as milquetoast as e.g. Kamala, Biden, and Obama are to their corporate donors.
Bernie was a good sport, but he has principles he stands by and that's more than those folks could say now.
This is just major debunked cope. People seem to forget, but when Trump ran for the first time, the whole "establishment" hated him, both left and right. Hell, even the heritage foundation didn't want him. Until he got too big to ignore, he won through sheer brute force popularity. Bernie just lost the primaries to Hillary...if you think America has any capability right now to see anyone to the left of Bernie in power, you're just delusional.
Current America would rather take an old bumbling corrupt criminal rapist(pedo too?) brainlet instead of a qualified intelligent prosecutor/AG because a woman of colour is a bit too much. Don't make the mistake of thinking your niche is anywhere near the norm.
The top brass in the DNC literally resigned due to their actions behind closed doors in 2016. Inform yourself.
And at the same time, Hillary's campaign and the DNC created Trump and elevated him to be a leader of the pack as a pied piper candidate, as confirmed by the verified, leaked emails from her campaign. They thought it would've been an easy win against him and even told the media to take him seriously. Cocky.
Which is cope. She lost because she wasn't real, among numerous other real reasons like only running on not being Trump and running on the same sweet-nothings as the prior administration + a few goodies that were lukewarm, at best.
It's not a mistake, I'm seeing through the propaganda that you are trying to spin as the one true reality... and a growing amount of Americans are seeing through it too.
News flash, media and partisan politics aren't reflective of the actual reality and people are tuning out of that bullshit. The bullshit doesn't get an overwhelming majority of Americans to come to the voting booths and that's evidence enough for me.
The 2016 Democratic primary wasn’t rigged by the DNC, and it certainly wasn’t rigged against Sanders. But Democratic elites did try to make Clinton’s nomination as inevitable, as preordained, as possible. And the party is still managing the resentment that engendered in voters. “Once somebody doesn’t trust you,” sighs Buckley, the New Hampshire Democratic chair, “it’s very hard to get that trust back.”
They are actively shaping the electoral environment. They don't just want to, they are actively preparing to do so.
I’ve been watching republicans do illegal things my entire life. Nobody has ever stopped them
Some judges have.
Some people like the ACLU and Marc Elias have.
Etc.
Stopped all illegal things they do? No. But many real people have stopped many real things.
Maybe they slowed them down but this decent into facism didn’t happen overnight
People want more people lime Zohran. Where is Zohran endorsment? Enjoy facism folks
Welcome to the left. A leftist's favorite passtime is telling other people that they are not left enough. They'd tell Karl Marx he isn't left enough if he lost his right arm. Drives me nuts.
The US requires a hard reset imo. The US political discourse is heavily biased towards the right causing the ratchet effect and muddies the pool of water of ideas. Liberals and progressives can't get along because the term socialism in the country has been heavily demonized, that socialists and progressives alike have no choice but to side with the pseudo-left party that is the Democratic Party. The party exploits the lack of choice to be complacent and provide bread crumb policies. Meanwhile, conservatives and the right typically prefer order in spite of differences, so they tend to have stronger voting cohesion to elect the Republican party.
The US requires a hard reset so that the two party system is rid of and political variety will blossom. Actually popular policies will be enacted and not demonized. Progressives could decouple from the Democratic party and finally call themselves socialists without the taboo. And moderate conservatives could dissociate themselves from the far right. However, this hard reset could mean a lead up to a civil war and the only people who would benefit from this are Russia and China.
Copied the wrong response. Apologies
You're just now figuring out that we're in fascism, but telling people to "enjoy" it? lol
So they're finally acknowledging it.
Rig the next one? Like they already haven’t done that before. Just ask Elon.
When are you going to endorse Zohran and new bloods of couragous young democrats trying to reshape the party?
When they pry the party from his cold dead hands
Obama... Obama... The mainstream dude?
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/137156-obama-says-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s/
The system works
Quit trying to make Newsome happen
It's really fucking tone deaf to push a Zionist in the face of cratering support for Israel among Democratic voters.
But then the Democratic party has a history of being tone deaf, like Biden picking Kamala "top cop" Harris for vp during the height of the George Floyd protests.
Biden won, but these stunts often fail.
If someone isn't capable of making the easy call to be against genocide, then they absolutely can't be trusted to be defenders of democracy.
We gotta quit pretending it's about this one issue or that one issue. Over and over again we see that there are politicians committed to fighting for what's right, and there are politicians who aren't. That's it. That's the line. The politicians that sell out to AIPAC are selling out to big tech, to Wall Street, to the military industrial complex, etc.
Yes, Obama, who was okay, bombing people in the middle east, many of which were innocent, doesn't care about the, innocent people, in the US.
If they care, they should be in the front line protesting the shit show of the ICE. They are the one that cannot be touch by Trump and his government. He is the one who doesn't fear losing his life nor does he fear losing his income.
These people are out of touch, they hope Trump do as much damage so they can get voted in without the need to listen to their voters.
It is like a divorce kid, where both parents are abuser. One of which doesn't abuse you as much as knows that the other is worst.
People and Unions should break this abusive cycle.
I swear... if Trump lasts past 2028, I'm gonna lose my shit
Lets not forget Obama (in-part) paved the way for the shit we're in now
I mean, you're right, just for the wrong reasons.
Elections are rigged through disenfranchisement, misinformation, and gerrymander. FPTP isn't an issue when the people on the ballot are all corporate flaks.
I like how it’s still “accuses” and is not “confirming” after all the actions taken by project 2025 ghouls to rig the election since orange man waddled back up to the white house
Chairman mayo
Wheeew boy. I just spent some time in progressive politics and jeez. They literally say Obama is the SAME level of evil as Hitler and Kamala is FAR right. This place seems so much more realistic.
That’s because it’s not actually for progressive politics in that com, but for making you feel like you don’t fit.
The voting machines now in Republican control are a give away that they will rig the elections. We should have the UN look at how the ballots are processed in this coming election just to be sure.
Project Red Map was never a secret.
As far as I can tell, Newsom is just a 'fascist, but not too obvious, so people won't protest' kind of candidate. A perfect pick if you want to salvage what remains of the empire and delay its inevitable collapse. But then again, it's not like Americans have any reasonable candidates. And we're also going on the assumption that there will be another election, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Would he be an improvement for the American people? And for other countries? At the very least, minorities in the USA would be [mostly] safe for a few years.
He's a capitalist. Fascist I don't think so. We have to stop purity testing left candidates, it's a trap. So what if he doesn't have every opinion we have - he's more in touch with the average voter on those issues, frankly. We need to start thinking like we want to win, not like we want to be right.
Edit: as pointed out, my comment is derailing from Governor Newsom to the broad america imperialism, So I apologize in advance for being off-topic here.
Inb4 I'm not calling you (specifically you) out. The you is aimed at "People of America" as a whole
independent of left or right, I'd like to say you guys need to elect someone that doesn't expand that list further more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
In other words, Could You All Please Stop Fucking Raping The "Global South"? Pretty Please???
And I'm using the word rape both metaphorically and literal at the same time. Also, I'm not downplaying the word. I'm just pointing out the fucked up things US (as a nation) did to all of us outside of "global north", "western civilization", "first world" or whatever term you guys keeping using to refer to us, the "inferior" class of "subhumans" people.
The US was always imperialist, but now the masks are off and Trump is just bringing what US did to other countries (see the list above) inwards to US. That's why most of the population are worried.
Except for the few leftist that called out what US always was, most people aren't worried of US raping other countries. But they are now worried because the military force is turning inwards against the enemy within.
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And has Newsom said he'd like to add to that list?
That was not my point.
My point is that waging war (or military operations if you want to keep the masks of civilization on the face) is bipartisan.
Even Barack Obama waged war during his term (and received a nobel peace prize for that).
A lot of countries did manage to deescalate conflicts and wars they were involved with (at the very least, most of south american countries for sure) and managed to have diplomatic relations without treating to bomb another country.
US politics is a war-waging politics.
I'm not American and I have no say in your internal affairs or whom you'll elect.
I'm just voicing that the "global south" is tired of being into wars or being bombed by the "Western Civilization".
It seems like you want to have a barely related discussion on American imperialism in a thread about Gavin Newsom.
True. Tanks for pointing out and I apologize for that.
He's an American politician. Of course he is.
Leftists in USA do need to band together, and I feel like it is more difficult to do so because of our individually. Most of our goals are common.
He’s just your stereotypical neoliberal corporate Democrat which is a much better alternative to Trump’s admin. I don’t like Newsom like most on here, but if he gets the nomination still show the fuck up.
What are our other options? If we're given 2 awful options then the least we could do would be to pick the lesser of the 2 evils.
I love how the majority of comments here didn't even read the whole headline, let alone the article, before confidently spouting whatever they already thought.
I'm expecting them to pull some bullshit that lets them "postpone" the election when the time comes.
Not just the next one, but every future one.
Holy shit, the number of whiney comments crying about Newsom when the ad is about prop 50 is staggering.
I would think that people were illiterate if they didn't read "Newsom" and start blindly frothing at the mouth.
Recognizing names is far from literate, a 4 year old can do that easy. In fact illiteracy almost necessitates that you be able to recognize names and symbols and be able to associate a feeling with it to navigate the world. This name hurts me, avoid. This other symbol brings me pleasure, engage. So navigating by emotion rather than reason.
Maybe it's just me but it almost seems like OP was trying to make this title seem bad as if it's not the truth.
Supporting him to do what? He's not running for reelection for governor. Dude hasn't declared for Senator or President. What are you supporting, you hack?
Maybe literally read for two seconds and you'd know.
Oh how brave of him to stand up now when he has no skin in the game. Bravo brave sir. I hope you sleep well at night on your pile of Netflix money.
He might run 2028 if trump does with gavin as VP or vise versa.
Nope. The plan for Trump to run again is to argue that a president is not allowed to serve more than two consecutive terms. Trump has had two non-consecutive terms while Obama has had two consecutive ones. They thought of this.
The text of the 22nd amendment is pretty clear:
If they're going to try to argue that means 1+2 terms is ok, doesn't seem like that would preclude 2+1.
MMW: Prop 50 is going to make somethings worse. I live on a blue island in a red sea in the blue state of California. Disenfranchising voters is going to lead to violence. If they were serious they would give us rank choice voting.
The proposition is time-limited, and will revert back to independent redistricting organization after 2030.
Ranked choice makes no sense until the majority of states implement it.
Ranked choice got us Mamdani. It matters for local politics.
I feel alone in my opposition to this proposition. Especially on this platform where most believe the ends justify the means.
You can’t answer voter disenfranchisement with more voter disenfranchisement. District lines should always be determined in a nonpartisan way, full stop.
That having been said we should implement more federal control of voting, at least for federal contests.
I also have much more radically left views in some ways. For example that we should use jury nullification against the emerging American gestapo, have zero tolerance for sieging the fucking capitol building (including shooting those who try), remove corrupt Democratic leadership by prosecution if necessary, etc.
But democracy is democracy. I still have loyalty to enlightenment ideals ffs.
Gerrymandering has been a problem for decades, and it's only getting worse.
It's possible that the only way to get fair election maps is to min/max the system to the extreme. And once everyone sees how horrible it is, maybe they'll be willing to actually work together to fix the system.
If we wait for a perfect solution that causes no friction, we'll be waiting forever. We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I am also a bit of an accelerationist.
I can’t help but think that if the Democrats could improve conditions for the common people without resorting to tactics that undermine the principle of one man = one vote, we’d see them getting a lot more votes.
They could keep up the pressure to eliminate the electoral college, for example.
Unfortunately there have been just enough shitty centrist dems elected, and a plurality of even shittier Republicans being elected, to block the best proposals. The best hope we had for universal healthcare, for example, was blocked by one man - Joseph Lieberman.
To say nothing of the corporate interests and billionaire donors that influence policy making in the party, and the feckless leadership, that is.
Not asking for perfect, but better than terrible. Genocide is terrible. What ICE is doing is terrible. Rigging elections is terrible.
Rigging elections is terrible.
But one party has quietly been working for decades to ensure that they can retain control of Congress with or without a majority of the votes in the country or even in a state.
And now it looks like that won't be enough, so they're actively trying to change election maps by any means possible before the midterms.
Democrats can't sit on their hands and wait for this to happen. If they don't fight back now, they might not get another opportunity.
yall need more laws that are based on dynamic countering of negative forces
ie minimum wage should adjust yearly with inflation…
in this case, states that are against gerrymandering should form a pact to nullify its effects: if another state gerrymanders, between them they must gerrymander opposite to at least the same magnitude. if enough states get on board, gerrymandering is done
it’s possible to measure gerrymandering, and states know that it’s in their best interest to stop another state from doing it. the only thing that’s needed is inter-state cooperation
These are a couple of great points:
Economist Robert Schiller has proposed a similar idea where we set up a reactive economic policy to execute automatically when some measures of inequality (e.g. the Gini coefficient) rise above a predefined level.
Great idea. Reminds me of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact)
we do it in australia and it works great… tied to CPI
exactly where i got the idea!
Am also Aussie! I know that the Fair Work Commission and a bunch of unions negotiating award rates consider CPI but is that just one factor they consider or the whole enchilada?
Fuck Obama. What a slimy grifter he is. Hope and change my ass.
Edit: Liberals man. Obama was objectively a liar who campaigned as a progessive and governed like a centrist liberal. He spent his whole admin engaging in endless war crimes abroad while tirelessly working to destroy the left in our country paving the way for the fascist surge we are seeing today.
He could have done stuff to move us away from this path but instead doubled down on it. Go read a fucking a book y'all are remembering history with rose colored glasses.
Obama was the first Democratic president in my lifetime to corrode my trust in the Democratic party. The leadership has only continued that trend, and probably forevermore.
Wow, Obama's political instincts are as sharp as ever. Can't think of anyone more charismatic and respected than Governor Newsom 🤗
Obama is supporting the referendum. That's a good thing.
Of course. The referendum. Yes I agree of course.
What was your previous username?
So you're sitting there seething wishing you could blow me up with your mind Scanners-style, that's great. My last username was on Mastodon, I submitted posts to Lemmy by tagging communities, and few of them went through.
Does that make it easier for you to attempt to refute anything I am saying? Or did you completely give up on that because it was too hard?
"they are trying to rig the election, so vote Yes on this ballot where we do the same thing they are"
Politics these days are hilarious.
Yeah how dare they fight fire with fire and not just accept the end of democracy…
For real though, thanks Obama. Miss you…
What would you suggest they do?
Fight fascists with guns instead of of words and letters.
I definitely don't disagree with that. I think that's been the inevitable conclusion every since the election of Obama pushed the entire republican party over the edge they were barely clinging to.
Go even harder! decorum and precedent are long gone, it's nice that some of the Dem leaders have woken up.
So it’s nice that they have woken up but you’re simultaneously complaining they have gone to far?