Spyke
piefed.social

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst-Wessel-Lied

Horst Wessel was a Nazi street fighter of no great distinction. He died in a brawl with some other thugs his landlady had hired.

Because his death played into Party propaganda, he was posthumously raised to secular sainthood. The ballad of his death became a favorite Nazi marching song.

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T156reply
lemmy.world

He brawled with the shotgun shell, and lost.

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kingofrasreply
lemmy.world

If the Germans get wind of this, those plagiarism charges will most certainly nail them to the cross.

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lemmy.world

The brown shirt loser was overdue on his rent payment and the landlord asked some locals to help him/her out. Well, the locals were communist party members and they really took it out on him.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

Communist... landlord enforcers? 🙃

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Are you suggesting that the Nazis’ characterisation of someone may have been exaggerated to serve their purposes?

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lemmy.ca

While you’re drawing parallels, remind everyone how to stop Nazis.

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DagwoodIIIreply
piefed.social

In WW2 all sorts of different people put aside their differences and united. They might have thought that Winston Churchill was a bastard, but he was the one that had the best chance of stopping Hitler.

Getting behind the people who already had an organization was how they stopped the Nazis.

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merdaversereply
lemmy.zip

You might be leaving out one significant person and country in stopping the Nazis.

it is the Russian Armies who have done the main work in tearing the guts out of the German army -- Winston Churchill

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DagwoodIIIreply
piefed.social

Let's put aside the fact that Stalin not only trusted Hitler, he trusted Hitler so much that he executed people who reported that Hitler was planning on invading Russia. Let's put aside the fact that Stalin crippled his own army by killing his own Generals. Let's put aside the fact that Stalin's rule in the USSR was so bad that it resulted in countries near him going Fascist out of fear of Communism.

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merdaversereply
lemmy.zip

It's funny how you talk about unity against a common enemy and in the next comment argue exactly against that. Do you deny that the USSR made significant contributions in defeating the nazis?

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DagwoodIIIreply
piefed.social

If you're going to put words in my mouth, please add a side of nachos?

Where did I say the USSR wasn't a big part of the War?

Quote the exact words.

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You didn't explicitly, that's why I asked you. But you did tiptoe around the fact by citing some agreements that Stalin had with the nazis, as that is some sort of gotcha, right after advocating for a member of the British Conservative Party which led to the ruinous policy of appeasement with the nazis (as a form of anti-communism), so I had some doubts.

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saimenreply
feddit.org

By killing them until their leader kills himself.

(Not inciting violoence, just stating history facts)

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I figured this whole thing had legs, like the Wessel story. Appears our attention span is too short to give a shit about a murdered fascist.

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piefed.social

The award has become less than meaningless after Lush Limbaugh's.

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DagwoodIIIreply
piefed.social

He literally said that gun deaths are the price we have to pay for a free society.

I geuss the medal is for his contribution to that cause??

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besseljreply
lemmy.ca

It's sorta like a participation trophy, yeah

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Few people have the conviction to die for their beliefs. I don't think he did either, but he did it anyways so props to him there I guess

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Canacondareply
lemmy.ca

Even moreso than the dudes who shot their own dicks to own the libs

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No he wasn't, he was against certain people owning firearms, wanna take a guess at which people.

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lemmy.world

At this point the presidential medal of freedom is worth less then the paper crown you get at Burger King.

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Welcome to America! Where a convicted felon, pedophile and reality tv “star” is president and we worship racist, bigoted podcasters.

Just so much winning!

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lemmy.ca

Everything about Kirk's death is performative and self-serving. Even from his widow. And I hate saying that, but it's true.

All the way back to the first so-called "memorial" whose poster included 3-people, (Vance, Trump, and Kirk's widow) and literally no photo of Kirk himself...on a poster for HIS goddamn memorial. We all know that turned into nothing more than a MAGA rally, and from there nothing has changed.

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don't hate saying that - it's so abundantly absurd, and deserves to be called out. The whole video Erika took is self-centered and just plain weird. I can't say it was a loveless marriage, but she certainly wasn't grieving his death.

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and I hate saying that

Why? It's the truth. Bitch was literally profiting off of his death within days. Money really is the only thing the right cares about.

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lemmy.world

"But some of his comments on gun violence, LGBTQ issues, race and more often drew criticism from liberals and others."

So understated lol

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fedia.io

A lot of medals and awards are going to have asterisks on certain entries in the lists after this.

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lemmy.ml

He spreads those things around like syphilis, doesn’t he?

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lemmy.world

She totally looks like she's in mourning with the couture black dress and $1,000+ hair cut.

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You could tell how sad she was on his podcast vowing to unleash a storm on the democrats or whatever bullshit she said. Genuinely brain dumped it.

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Yup, shot right through the neck while spewing racist bullshit at a university. As someone who campaigned for bringing back public executions, his wife and kids were there to witness, exactly how he wanted it.

Can you believe that the little shit was only in his early 30s? I thought he was at least a decade and a half older. Hate ages you more quickly.

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They're all just like Charlie Kirk. They are all domestic terrorists. And I haven't even gotten to what outsiders say about them!

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I like both interpretations of posthumously in this sentence, but I like the other one better.

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feddit.nl

It was kind of uncomfortable as the medal is hung from the neck...

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PattyMcBreply
lemmy.world

Should've been hanged from the neck (not intended to invite any violence)

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the White House awarded a white nationalist Christian fascist. doesn't matter what it really means; the fact it was done at any level is appalling.

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Trump tends to be nice to people who act fully subservient to him -- those he has dominated.

And wasn't Kirk on the "we should see the Epstein files" side of the MAGA divide except for that one afternoon when he said he was over it?

Having a problematic person publicly killed and then "honored" like this sure feels on brand for the wannabe mafia shitheads pulling the strings. It's like how they revel in their hypocrisy rather than hiding it because they care much more about rubbing it in their enemies' faces than they do about their own integrity.

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redlemmy.com

I guarantee the military will not support him in the event of an uprising. What a tonedeaf way to lead people you'll need support from.

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I'm would imagine that having all the generals and admirals in one place where they can talk directly to each other, and pissing them off with the reason you committed such an egregious breach of opsec isn't the best move he could have made. I'm pretty sure that our military leaders just got all the opportunity they needed to completely undermine the administration at every turn.

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New rule. If we are going to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously, we have to dig up the corpse.

Don't have a corpse? Then no Presidential Medal of Freedom for you.

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