The only reason I put pants on is because it's be arrested otherwise.
That being said, comfortable has priority over good looking and I don't think I've ever had a compliment on how I dress since grandma saw me in a suit when I graduated 20 something years ago.
I got tangible perks for wearing certain clothes and helping people in them. It seems like when you dress a bit more formally, people are more likely to think you're going out of your way to help them, and you're more likely to get compensated. That mentality kinda sucks because if you squint a bit, there's a social class bias in play. And I remember a little factoid where someone found out you get scammed less at the dentist if you wear a suit vs if you wear something like a hoodie.
Mundane things like helping someone carry their groceries from one vehicle to another when we're going down on the same stop. When we're boarded in the same vehicle they enthusiastically pay for my fare.
I tend to experience it more when I'm wearing business casual.
I 100% dress for others, I don't really care about clothing, and I hate to buy new clothes. I only do it because I think I may be nearing some limit of what is considered decent to wear in the presence of other people, who 100% always are better dressed than me.
The other day I was at the supermarket, and had seen they had a special offer on "plaice" I think it's called.
Well the special offer was sold out, and I asked an employee if they had anymore.
The employee was extremely nice, and asked how many I had planned to buy? And I said 2, then he took 2 bags that had 50% more content, and wrote the price of the special offer on them, and said I should just mention his name at the register.
I though Wow that stellar service, and it was only when I came home I realized I had some of my worst pants on that are so warn they had holes in them.
I have newer pants, but I don't like them, because they have no sway and they are some sort of stretch material to be tight, and I absolutely hate that. And I also hate shopping for clothes.
Anyways because my clothes are (to put it mildly) sub par for normal people, I figured he probably thought I was some sort of destitute.
I am married, and our economy is absolutely fine, we own an almost paid out house, and we have a car that was bought cash without borrowing, and we have a good amount of money in the bank.
Anyways I don't care, maybe because I don't have to. I just want clothes that are comfortable.
For others. If I'm staying home, I dress like I'm homeless in whatever grungy dirty things that already need washing. If I'm going out, my hair is combed, my threads are fresh and I'm not getting denied entrance to the restaurant. The movie Blast from the Past was pretty stupid, but it did teach me (remind me?) that you dress nice as a courtesy to your friends.
You don't know the difference between dressing for yourself vs dressing for others? Try showing up to court in an inflatable costume! Or just go a single average day out in public without pants or a shirt on (even with undergarments)...
I dress for myself. And my own comfort does depend on things like social interactions and conversation dynamics and office relationships and others' perception of me and my reputation. So dressing for myself includes dressing within social conventions.
For both. I wear cheap business casual to work to present a particular image: appear like I have my shit together (I don’t) but I’m also budget conscious. I wear the same outfit every day (for me) because I hate making fashion decisions and crave simplicity. I have five of the same shirt and five of the same pant. Weekends I have a different uniform that says “fit, economical, comfortable, safe.” Two of the same pant and shirt.
Hell, I BARELY dress for myself, let alone others.
The two deciding factors are "Does this protect me from public indecency laws" and "Am I warm/cool enough in this". Anything goes so long as it meets this criteria.
Myself – I opt for the low decision fatigue – same thing everyday wardrobe.
If I wasn’t a bachelor remote employee I might consider mixing it up on the behalf of others. Right now when I do quarterly on-sites I stick with my usual wardrobe.
If I'm going out, I change from cosy indoor clothing to tidier clothing so that I don't look like I'm wandering around in public in my pyjamas, so I guess I'm fitting to a societal expectation, and thus dressing for other people in that regard.
That said, I wouldn't want to sully my indoor clothing with the outdoors anyway, and I don't like going out as a rule, so I think I prefer to be dressed for myself.
I like my ideal world where no one expects anything from anyone when it comes to clothes and appearance, but I also like to figure out my (very extra) outfit of the day from time to time
I dress for myself unless I want to try to exploit something, then I'll dress to fit in because a lot of normies are stupid and actually think different types of clothing means something.
I don't know the difference. I pretty much live in business casual, but on the weekends I will wear a graphic tee instead of a white undershirt. Maybe I leave my button down shirt open. It's what I would choose to wear in any instance I leave the house. I'm comfortable in my clothes.
Both. I like look good in clothes that fit, but I wear what I like, and always have. As a kid, my mother would pick out clothes in the morning, and I'd come down in totally different clothing. I like fashion. I am not gay. And I also like to appear well dressed. And also, 95% of my tshirts are geeky graphic tees, like my Andorian Mining Consortium (Runs from Nobody) shirt.
But it's not like I'm walking around in suits, ever. I just like jeans and shirts that fit, and I hate mundane white bread and mayo fashion, or lack there of.
It’s a bit of both. I’m a photographer and I like to think of my outfits like photos, especially when I’m going somewhere where I plan to network. I want to present myself as someone with a good sense of style and who knows how to make people look good. So my style is my own, but I try to make sure I look good and fit the vibe of where I’m going.
I recently went to a party focused on some spiritual stuff and to match the vibe I got some 3/4 harem pants, but I got ones with a slightly muted floral pattern to make it my own. I made the rest of my outfit plain and dark to match and really emphasize the new pants. It was a style a bit outside my comfort zone, but was a big hit and I got lots of compliments.
Myself, it's "others". I have a public-facing job, and the better I look the more I sell and the more I earn. At home I'm generally as close to naked as is practical, and as close fo all-black as laundry allows.
I've learned, through the years, what's comfortable for me and still produces an image that others find pleasing. That image is still very comfortable looking, mind you. I've been told that when I'm out I look like "Merlin on vacation..."
I mean, doesn't everyone sort-of dress for others?
I mean, that's why its illegal to go outside unclothed.
For me, its mostly just to fit in, meet the legal and social requirements of being in public, and, well... for winter... since humans have no fur. So a bit of both, but as long as I meet minimum requirements its fine.
Comfort > Looks
I mean, I'm not a high ranking politician, who care how good I look.
I never go anywhere special, so I guess I dress for myself. I'm most comfortable in jeans and a t-shirt so even on days where I'm not going anywhere and will most likely stay home all day, I still shower and put those on. My shirts are all nerdy stuff with characters and logos all over them that I like. Never was a fan of plain, single color shirts. I just got a Mothra shirt and love it so much.
I'm autistic, I dress for myself and my comfort. I actually dress nice however. My wardrobe mostly consists of button ups and pollos. I have t shirts but only wear those when I'm doing something physical like working on the house. If I'm at home I'm probably in a pair of my colorful sweats and a hoodie.
I usually wear simple, single color Tshirts, a light jacket, and one of a small stock of pants.
In a sense I dress just for me - easy and simple means I don't have to spend time choosing, which I do like. A light jacket let's me easily get warmer or cooler without having to completely change.
In another, I dress for others - I don't wear graphic tees very much since high school because I don't want anyone judging me for what I like, or misunderstanding and prejudging me. With plain tees, I just don't have to deal with that particular social anxiety.
Myself, always. I'm one of those people who wears normal clothes just numbing around the house, rather than just underwear or pajamas or something. My fiance is practically a nudist and I'll be sitting there in the couch with her on jeans and a tee shirt lol
both my wife and I dress for ourselves. She used to do more for others but my lazyness has worn off on her. She effected me a bit to as she used a lot of cheap fashion and now I wear the pants equivalent of tshirts if im not wearing shorts and tshirt.
Myself. Because if I actually was dressing for others I would be taking a lot more objection to looking like a fashionably challenged (albeit very comfortable) hobo at all times, but I dont care about it
I usually go for function over form. Its why i wear red kap cargo pants with abrasion resistance. Theyve got buncha pockets so i can carry all the things.
I mostly dress for sensory issues and gender dysphoria. For work, I additionally dress to get taken seriously and in my free time, I dress for fun (sparkles, bright colours, frills, think David Bowies more fem looks). So, like most people, a mix of both, with one or the other being a stronger consideration in different situations.
Outside of work: Both. I want people to think I look good in the clothes I wear, but even if they don't I am probably not going to change them.
At work: We have a dress code. I follow it to the letter, because I think it makes a positive difference in how I am perceived by my employer. I almost completely disregard my own preferences in this context.
Work doesn't count, that shit is mandated and the new boss likes to fire for it.
Everywhere else? For myself as much as society allows it. If I'm going somewhere where my friends/party could face consequences for my outfit, then I dress to fit in. If I'm going to the grocery store or any other errand? I'm wearing whatever the hell is the most comfortable. I'm not drawing lustful gazes when covered in motorcycle gear anyway.
Anyone who claims they don’t have other people in mind when choosing their outfit is lying - either to you or to themselves.
That said, I don’t think I’d dress any differently even if I were the only person left on the planet. I’ve got this outdoorsy, mildly militaristic "gray man" style that I like but I'm doing it for myself - not for others. Hell, if anything, some people just see it as cringe. Still, there’s an image of how I hope others perceive me, because that’s also how I like to think of myself. So it wouldn’t be honest to say I never think about other people’s perception.
Probably the only piece of clothing I avoid wearing in public because of how it might be perceived is my hiking/combat boots - they admittedly give off a bit of a nationalistic vibe, especially paired with the rest of my outfit. I still wear them for outdoor activities, of course, just not to the grocery store.
Now that I think about it, I do sometimes also not put on a beanie because I think my hair looks better but a beanie is arguably more comfy.
If I wasn't dressing for others I'd be naked like 90% of the time.
The only reason I put pants on is because it's be arrested otherwise.
That being said, comfortable has priority over good looking and I don't think I've ever had a compliment on how I dress since grandma saw me in a suit when I graduated 20 something years ago.
I dress for the weather.
I have multiple times been passively insulted by fashionistas who said 'you treat clothing like it's functional only'.
no shit I do. And I'm proud of it. fuck fashion and it's classist bullshit.
I mean, manipulating people is technically a 'function' to which one can apply clothing. It's not a good one, but it is a function.
I got tangible perks for wearing certain clothes and helping people in them. It seems like when you dress a bit more formally, people are more likely to think you're going out of your way to help them, and you're more likely to get compensated. That mentality kinda sucks because if you squint a bit, there's a social class bias in play. And I remember a little factoid where someone found out you get scammed less at the dentist if you wear a suit vs if you wear something like a hoodie.
You don't have to share your details but could I ask what yph mean more specifically by 'wearing certain clothes and helping people?'
Mundane things like helping someone carry their groceries from one vehicle to another when we're going down on the same stop. When we're boarded in the same vehicle they enthusiastically pay for my fare.
I tend to experience it more when I'm wearing business casual.
Function over form every day all day. Fuck others.
I've been a jeans and T-shirt guy for well over 30 years at this point.
This might as well be my motto. Appearance may reflect inside state, but I really don't care as long as it works.
I 100% dress for others, I don't really care about clothing, and I hate to buy new clothes. I only do it because I think I may be nearing some limit of what is considered decent to wear in the presence of other people, who 100% always are better dressed than me.
The other day I was at the supermarket, and had seen they had a special offer on "plaice" I think it's called.
Well the special offer was sold out, and I asked an employee if they had anymore.
The employee was extremely nice, and asked how many I had planned to buy? And I said 2, then he took 2 bags that had 50% more content, and wrote the price of the special offer on them, and said I should just mention his name at the register.
I though Wow that stellar service, and it was only when I came home I realized I had some of my worst pants on that are so warn they had holes in them.
I have newer pants, but I don't like them, because they have no sway and they are some sort of stretch material to be tight, and I absolutely hate that. And I also hate shopping for clothes.
Anyways because my clothes are (to put it mildly) sub par for normal people, I figured he probably thought I was some sort of destitute.
I am married, and our economy is absolutely fine, we own an almost paid out house, and we have a car that was bought cash without borrowing, and we have a good amount of money in the bank.
Anyways I don't care, maybe because I don't have to. I just want clothes that are comfortable.
I have more important things to worry about than clothes. Nobody cares what I wear, and frankly neither do I.
They do care that I wear clothes. Ain't nobody's day improved by seeing more of my skin.
Clothing is a courtesy I wear for others.
For others. If I'm staying home, I dress like I'm homeless in whatever grungy dirty things that already need washing. If I'm going out, my hair is combed, my threads are fresh and I'm not getting denied entrance to the restaurant. The movie Blast from the Past was pretty stupid, but it did teach me (remind me?) that you dress nice as a courtesy to your friends.
Why would I even dress if it wasn't for others?
Because I'd be cold.
we are a social species I don't know what the difference is
You don't know the difference between dressing for yourself vs dressing for others? Try showing up to court in an inflatable costume! Or just go a single average day out in public without pants or a shirt on (even with undergarments)...
yea
I dress for myself. And my own comfort does depend on things like social interactions and conversation dynamics and office relationships and others' perception of me and my reputation. So dressing for myself includes dressing within social conventions.
i would dress for myself but my cat will get hair over my outfit so the only time I can really dress is when I'm out of the house
Is that a calico/tabby?
shes a mess, thats for sure! 😂
i believe that is correct, but I'm not that educated on kitty types so I could be wrong.
here's a photo that shows off her coat more
What a pretty DuBb IdOT!
For both. I wear cheap business casual to work to present a particular image: appear like I have my shit together (I don’t) but I’m also budget conscious. I wear the same outfit every day (for me) because I hate making fashion decisions and crave simplicity. I have five of the same shirt and five of the same pant. Weekends I have a different uniform that says “fit, economical, comfortable, safe.” Two of the same pant and shirt.
You just saved me a bunch of typing.
Ditto, and thanks.
Myself. I stopped following our work dress code after Covid and nobody has complained. Flannel and jeans and a hat == office casual now.
I dress for the weather.
Tlaloc approves and smiles down at you from the pouring heavens.
I wanted to say that I don't dress for anyone because I mostly lie naked in bed because pulling trousers up is too hard for me.
But then I realised when I have to get up I put on a bathrobe so that my kids don't have to see me naked.
So, I do dress for others.
Fuck others, I need to be comfortable.
Am Neurodivergent.
I dress for the weather and what I'm going to be doing.
I'd be naked if I could tbh
Hell yeah
I dress for myself. I like being memorable and looking good. I like taking style risks sometimes, but it seems to work for me.
I get complimented on my style often, and that makes me feel more confident in general.
Comfort is a deciding factor on how I dress. Within that, I try to pull off looks that don't look like ass, which I seem to pull off.
I have no fashion sense and buying clothes stresses me out so I dress for neither. At best, I dress for other people's basic sense of modesty.
Edit: oh and because it's cold.
Hell, I BARELY dress for myself, let alone others.
The two deciding factors are "Does this protect me from public indecency laws" and "Am I warm/cool enough in this". Anything goes so long as it meets this criteria.
Myself – I opt for the low decision fatigue – same thing everyday wardrobe.
If I wasn’t a bachelor remote employee I might consider mixing it up on the behalf of others. Right now when I do quarterly on-sites I stick with my usual wardrobe.
I have probably spent more this year because I want a certain person to look at me.
IDK... I dress how I like, so for myself, I guess.
At home for myself, at work for others.
If I'm going out, I change from cosy indoor clothing to tidier clothing so that I don't look like I'm wandering around in public in my pyjamas, so I guess I'm fitting to a societal expectation, and thus dressing for other people in that regard.
That said, I wouldn't want to sully my indoor clothing with the outdoors anyway, and I don't like going out as a rule, so I think I prefer to be dressed for myself.
50/50, maybe?
I like my ideal world where no one expects anything from anyone when it comes to clothes and appearance, but I also like to figure out my (very extra) outfit of the day from time to time
that's for you not others, if it makes you feel good. specially with how alt and commonly disliked your style is
Looking at myself gives me the thoughts of despair so I dress to make people not look at me
I dress for myself unless I want to try to exploit something, then I'll dress to fit in because a lot of normies are stupid and actually think different types of clothing means something.
I don't know the difference. I pretty much live in business casual, but on the weekends I will wear a graphic tee instead of a white undershirt. Maybe I leave my button down shirt open. It's what I would choose to wear in any instance I leave the house. I'm comfortable in my clothes.
Both. I like look good in clothes that fit, but I wear what I like, and always have. As a kid, my mother would pick out clothes in the morning, and I'd come down in totally different clothing. I like fashion. I am not gay. And I also like to appear well dressed. And also, 95% of my tshirts are geeky graphic tees, like my Andorian Mining Consortium (Runs from Nobody) shirt.
But it's not like I'm walking around in suits, ever. I just like jeans and shirts that fit, and I hate mundane white bread and mayo fashion, or lack there of.
It’s a bit of both. I’m a photographer and I like to think of my outfits like photos, especially when I’m going somewhere where I plan to network. I want to present myself as someone with a good sense of style and who knows how to make people look good. So my style is my own, but I try to make sure I look good and fit the vibe of where I’m going.
I recently went to a party focused on some spiritual stuff and to match the vibe I got some 3/4 harem pants, but I got ones with a slightly muted floral pattern to make it my own. I made the rest of my outfit plain and dark to match and really emphasize the new pants. It was a style a bit outside my comfort zone, but was a big hit and I got lots of compliments.
Noone would ever confuse me for someone who dresses for others. Lol
Third option: dressing for the weather.
Myself, it's "others". I have a public-facing job, and the better I look the more I sell and the more I earn. At home I'm generally as close to naked as is practical, and as close fo all-black as laundry allows.
I've learned, through the years, what's comfortable for me and still produces an image that others find pleasing. That image is still very comfortable looking, mind you. I've been told that when I'm out I look like "Merlin on vacation..."
Like Sword in the Stone Merlin on vacation?
Picture for reference:
Well... yes, actually. :)
I dress for my wife.
Strangers aren’t gonna fuck me for looking nice.
I mean, doesn't everyone sort-of dress for others?
I mean, that's why its illegal to go outside unclothed.
For me, its mostly just to fit in, meet the legal and social requirements of being in public, and, well... for winter... since humans have no fur. So a bit of both, but as long as I meet minimum requirements its fine.
Comfort > Looks
I mean, I'm not a high ranking politician, who care how good I look.
I am kinda required to wear safety clothes
when I dress for myself it's usually in funky, slightly silly clothing
when I dress for others it's as low-effort business casual for a zoom meeting square as possible
I dress for myself.
I wear what I want to wear. I don't care if anyone else likes it.
I never go anywhere special, so I guess I dress for myself. I'm most comfortable in jeans and a t-shirt so even on days where I'm not going anywhere and will most likely stay home all day, I still shower and put those on. My shirts are all nerdy stuff with characters and logos all over them that I like. Never was a fan of plain, single color shirts. I just got a Mothra shirt and love it so much.
Both; depends on the situation.
I'm autistic, I dress for myself and my comfort. I actually dress nice however. My wardrobe mostly consists of button ups and pollos. I have t shirts but only wear those when I'm doing something physical like working on the house. If I'm at home I'm probably in a pair of my colorful sweats and a hoodie.
Feel like I'm in between.
I usually wear simple, single color Tshirts, a light jacket, and one of a small stock of pants.
In a sense I dress just for me - easy and simple means I don't have to spend time choosing, which I do like. A light jacket let's me easily get warmer or cooler without having to completely change.
In another, I dress for others - I don't wear graphic tees very much since high school because I don't want anyone judging me for what I like, or misunderstanding and prejudging me. With plain tees, I just don't have to deal with that particular social anxiety.
Myself, always. I'm one of those people who wears normal clothes just numbing around the house, rather than just underwear or pajamas or something. My fiance is practically a nudist and I'll be sitting there in the couch with her on jeans and a tee shirt lol
both my wife and I dress for ourselves. She used to do more for others but my lazyness has worn off on her. She effected me a bit to as she used a lot of cheap fashion and now I wear the pants equivalent of tshirts if im not wearing shorts and tshirt.
Myself. Because if I actually was dressing for others I would be taking a lot more objection to looking like a fashionably challenged (albeit very comfortable) hobo at all times, but I dont care about it
I dress so society does not put me into jail for indecency. We are not the same.
Both, but it's less about looking good or acceptable to others, it's more about displaying a specific image really.
I wore my WATCHING FOX NEWS SHRINKS YOUR PENIS SHIRT to the store yesterday. So I guess I dress for both.
I usually go for function over form. Its why i wear red kap cargo pants with abrasion resistance. Theyve got buncha pockets so i can carry all the things.
I mostly dress for sensory issues and gender dysphoria. For work, I additionally dress to get taken seriously and in my free time, I dress for fun (sparkles, bright colours, frills, think David Bowies more fem looks). So, like most people, a mix of both, with one or the other being a stronger consideration in different situations.
Outside of work: Both. I want people to think I look good in the clothes I wear, but even if they don't I am probably not going to change them. At work: We have a dress code. I follow it to the letter, because I think it makes a positive difference in how I am perceived by my employer. I almost completely disregard my own preferences in this context.
Usually it's for others, in that I am trying to avoid an indecency charge.
On the occasion I actually get dressed up, it's for me. I usually don't even leave home...
For habits and tradition.
Others.
I dress to avoid indecency charges.
Work doesn't count, that shit is mandated and the new boss likes to fire for it.
Everywhere else? For myself as much as society allows it. If I'm going somewhere where my friends/party could face consequences for my outfit, then I dress to fit in. If I'm going to the grocery store or any other errand? I'm wearing whatever the hell is the most comfortable. I'm not drawing lustful gazes when covered in motorcycle gear anyway.
I don't do either of those. Besides obvious things like not wearing shorts in winter I just grab the first thing that isn't uncomfortable.
Anyone who claims they don’t have other people in mind when choosing their outfit is lying - either to you or to themselves.
That said, I don’t think I’d dress any differently even if I were the only person left on the planet. I’ve got this outdoorsy, mildly militaristic "gray man" style that I like but I'm doing it for myself - not for others. Hell, if anything, some people just see it as cringe. Still, there’s an image of how I hope others perceive me, because that’s also how I like to think of myself. So it wouldn’t be honest to say I never think about other people’s perception.
Probably the only piece of clothing I avoid wearing in public because of how it might be perceived is my hiking/combat boots - they admittedly give off a bit of a nationalistic vibe, especially paired with the rest of my outfit. I still wear them for outdoor activities, of course, just not to the grocery store.
Now that I think about it, I do sometimes also not put on a beanie because I think my hair looks better but a beanie is arguably more comfy.