'Never felt more betrayed': MAGA rebels over Trump's 'treasonous' Qatar base in Idaho
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Can you imagine how the right would react if this was done by a dem president? They may have actually started a civil war over it.
Wasn’t there a conspiracy theory about Obama or something opening foreign military base on US soil?
Jade Helm, back in '14/'15 was a massive military training exercise across the Southwest. We'd been saber rattling across North Africa and the Middle East for ages, so this was larger than normal but not inconsistent with US foreign policy. Just another day in the paradise of the imperial core.
But Republican influencers and spokesdorks jumped on it as an actual invasion of the territory being practiced over. Then several of the state governors chimed in, demanding that Obama halt his occupation of their states. We had a big rash of "Should Texas be allowed to secede?!" discourse. Obama issued an apology or some dumb shit. Republicans declared victory. Yadda yadda.
Yes. Please go. Soon.
Texas should be forced to secede.
... do they still want it?
The article has a quote that literally blames this on Biden and Obama.
God damn people are fucking stupid.
Oh "name the enemy" is a terrifying dogwhistle
It's the Dutch, right?
Nah its the Austrians. They keep insisting they don't have kangaroos but this picture I found of Hitler riding a kangaroo says otherwise. They will remain the enemy until I can enjoy a traditional oktoberfest, koala and all!
I've always said that the best folk music comes from the Dutch
Radar love is a classic.
Not hard to figure out since they immeditaly before referred to Islam etc. being scrubbed lol
Ack, I keep reading that as
And I'm thinking "wait, which is it? Are you upset the officials no longer recognize the enemy or because they no longer refuse to name the enemy?"
I get what they're trying to say, but it's not clearly stated.
Mate, your civil war has already begun. Most of you don’t realize it yet though, but you will soon enough.
Minor correction.
It never ended. It just went cold in 1865.
Oh, I’m very aware…. It’s unfortunate, but a long time coming.
"Obama is Muslim and wants a Muslim invasion and wants Sharia law!!1!"
For so long every accusation has been an a confession. Somehow I completely missed that Trump is a secret Muslim.
Has anyone checked his birth certificate? Was he born in Africa?
Donald Trump was born in Queens. To folks from Manhattan that may as well be Africa....
He does act like an Ottoman Emperor.
He's a TV Talibangelist
Ironically, they are this close >< to starting one anyway.
Really, never? Seems like he fucks over his people at least once a week.
Christ on sale, these people are stupid. The GOP-led Congress could pass a law called the Fuck Our MAGA Simps In Particular Act, signed by Trump, and they'd still blame Obama.
I was coming here with the exact same quote with a:
I don't like how clearly I can hear this gif.
FOMSIPA is definitely Obama's fault. You can tell because it can be rearranged to spell OIF Maps, a reference to Operation Iraqi Freedom which ended in 2010 under Obama's watch.
MOAR SCARY WORDS!!!!!!
This is fucking hilarious lol
Well at least now we know the price of opening an airbase in the US for non-NATO countries
Bribes are much cheaper than doing it legitimately. Thats why they do it.
Qatar base? In Idaho?
Ok, now you're fucking with me. I don't believe any of you that this is real.
It’s a Qatari Air Force base for Training.
In Idaho.
Training bases like that are often put in remote areas where low flying and the noise doesn’t disturb that many people. Qatar is tiny and they can’t really practice at home that well.
Sucks for them.
They weren't justifying they were explaining the decision making process.
It's important to know why things happen even if it's for reasons you don't agree with.
Singapore already has a base there for their F-15s, this isn't anything new so the locals probably won't care or even see the Qatari pilots.
I don't agree with any of this but I also don't think we should let the media manipulate us with bait that isn't going to go anywhere.
We need to keep pressing Epstein, everything else is misdirection.
The joke/issue that you seem to be missing is that Idaho, in general but that area specifically, bought hard into the islamophobia propaganda campaign that was part of the fascist power grab of the early 00s and has only doubled down since.
"Pardon our noise! It's the sound of Free
domjetliners"I think having it inside the US brings some security guarantees that the base is left alone. And it might've been part of some bigger deal, Qatar buys some US weapons and they throw in land for the base in return or something.
I would imagine there are a hundred other options for countries that would allow a training base that's not in fucking Idaho that didn't require a plane as a bribe.
Wouldn’t that be the first and only foreign base in us soil? Trump really bent over and lubed up
Yessir
For what legitimate purpose could Qatar have to put a military facility on Idaho? And Trump and Hegseth have absolutely no legitimate reason to allow it. Clearly payback for the bribery of the Plane and future bribes.
More importantly, they probably bought unknown quantities of his $TRUMP crypto.
Don't need to mess with shady crypto for corruption, the law allows presidents to get unlimited "presidential library donations" from anyone, for example foreign entities, individuals seeking presidential pardons and corporations
None of the presidential libraries had $20 billion of donations pour in.
Yuge quantities
And other current bribes. They are now bribing less openly I'm sure. They've killed any oversight of bribery.
They got bribed and the Qataris can brag that they have a base in the US when no one else does.
Just checked r/Conservative and they seem completely unfazed. They literally do not care.
Any time I see one of these "MAGA revolts" stories, AND/OR an article from rawstory.com, I know I can ignore it.
Yup. These stories are just copium articles for the left so we keep letting this shithead do whatever he wants.
The racist pedo apologists haven’t figured out how to spin this yet.
I remember what happened the last time US trained middle eastern pilots in the late 90s / very early 2000s
Wow, was it something spectacular, eye opening, and thought provoking?
It was a cash cow for the defense industry.
It was definitely all those things, plus racist.
I remember people online said some racist shit that they had to tone down the training because Arabs are stupid and can't fly.
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I don't want to take the bait, and I don't even believe it...but:
they can fly but they can't land.
Fuck you for making me do that.
I just love, that even in this, they seem to find a way to still, blame Obama and Biden for it.
The cope is strong with that one.
Now everyone knows how weak we are and exactly how to get whatever they want from us.
Go look up how long it took Trump to call Xi after China hit the off button for rare earth metals.
Lol ..... most powerful military in history and all you have to do defeat it is ... threaten to stop investing in them.
Japan threatened it first in the first tarrifs race
That's ridiculous. Qatar holds like a billion or two in US Treasuries, which isn't even a minute's worth of trading volume. Japan, China, UK, all closer to a trillion, would be a serious threat. Even UAE at $100B. But Qatar?
No, if anything this is payback for the nice airplane Qatar gave to "Trump Library."
Tinfoil hat: the threat was just a ruse to provide plausible deniability. The actual reason they are allowed to establish an air base on US soil is because they gave Trump a $400M airplane.
So you have a source? Because this would be amazing to have in a discussion with some maga idiots I know.
Is there a source on that? Not saying it’s not true I’m just having trouble finding anything atm
True or not those numbers are bullshit.
Sell to whom?
Google AI (sorry) indicates this is a false story. "Reports of Qatar threatening to sell all its U.S. Treasury bonds are false. The rumor, which gained some traction in September 2025, appears to have stemmed from a misinterpretation of remarks made by a Qatari official." I asked it, "did qatar threaten to sell all its us treasury bonds?"
AI are propaganda machines, check its sources before believing it
how does one even know and verify what an LLM's "sources" are? wouldn't it just vomit out whatever response and then find "sources" that happen to match its stupid output after the fact?
Precisely my point. But if it is correct and can link to an authoritative source (eg. a news article), that is relatively easy to verify.
How much you can trust a news article is still up for debate.
so then all the value it brings is the exact same thing search engines have already been doing for decades.
Indeed, not very useful as a search tool IMO
Ask for the source and read it I suppose?
so then all the value it brings is the exact same thing search engines have already been doing for decades.
Sure, but where are the sources saying it's true what OP stated? It seems harder to prove a rumor.
Agreed, I’m more worried about people blindly trusting AI than I am about this particular situation.
How are any of then surprised? Trump is the most easily bribeable man to ever be president.
Well most of them have brain damage, and still think he gives a fuck about anything other than being a soft richie-bitch. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. No, I was wrong, it's still fucking hilarious.
FTFY
Trump = bribe
FTFY
Probably pretty fuckin easy to blackmail too.
Given how many kids he has fucked his entire life and lifelong friendship with Epstein (who himself was a known pervert even back in his high school days), and his business failures and need for money that often came from the Mafia or foreign sources such as Russia, the fucker doesn't have skeletons in the closet. He has more skeletons around his home and yard than a skeleton-obsessed Halloween decorator.
I'm surprised you're confused about their surprise. When do they think critically about anything? They are racist and hateful. When (not if) things finally come around to hurt them they will cry foul. They deserve all their suffering.
Wut.
The dedication to the bit is really something. Not a single crack showing, just smooth plaster.
Thanks Obama.
Also, in totally unrelated news, Trump's personal wealth jumped by another half billion dollars thanks to his personal cryptocurrency suddenly going up in value.
It's actually down 18% over the month, down 4.5% over the past 24 hours.
His cryptocurrency is for fleecing rubes, not nation states.
He has probably been cashing it out.
This is for Qatar‘s help in pressuring Hamas to sign the deal to the end the Gaza war.
And yet as outraged as they are, MAGA still finds a way to say this is the Democrats' fault:
🙄
still they somehow blame "Obama- and Biden-era bureaucrats" for it
So far...
Wait until the white and red uniforms come out
I'm missing the reference.
Oh damn I fell thick as fuck now. Awesome Blazing Saddles gif to explain. Reminds of this panel from Preacher:
Team Canada's jerseys?
Ah those MAGA cucks love getting fucked by Trump. It gets them off.
They'll complain and then tomorrow go "Yes daddy"
Do you regret giving him a pass for that $200 million plane bribe?
That's about half the plane bribe, it's actually estimated to be around $400 million. There's also several billion more in Qatari bribes transferred via sketchy business deals involving Trump's crypto scams, golf courses, hotels, etc.
I like Trump because he openly accepts bribes and does horrible things out in the open!
Lololol
It's a weird feeling to be surprised by someone holding to a set of principles (surrounded by a party where any position can be compromised for cash/dear-leader/whatever's happening with Fetterman) even when those principles are disgustingly abhorrent.
You can have a room in idaho
What about my own private Idaho?
Probably but it'll have to be gold or have incriminating evidence inside it or something.
maga "betrayed" blah blah blah. stop every believe fascists are going to ever become decent people. all these maga people "leaving" the party is theatrical bullspit.
Fascists believe in inequality based on identity, so how could they ever feel betrayed by Trump doing outrageous things? They are DELIGHTED the more outrageous Trump acts, because he is their glorious king they wish they could be. They go "Oh gawd did you see what our leader did? I wish I could do that too!". He's their golden idol. All he has to do is keep promising them inequality in their favor.
Imagine building military bases in foreign countries then freaking out when a foreign country builds a military base in yours: the US finally gets to know how it feels.
Exactly what expeditonary capacity does Qatar have? US based across Europe and Pacific are in compliance with NATO and other defensive treaties. US and Qatar have no such agreements. This entire deal is just Trump and co pocketing a bribe.
Exactly what "epiditionary capacity" does the US have? They don't need permanent bases on foreign soil any more than foreign countries need bases on US soil. US taxpayers certainly don't want to pay for all this armed forces bloat.
I mean the US is one of the few countries that can put like 30k dudes in country at the drop of a hat with thousands more coming right behind. It's the only reason some countries dealt with us at all.
Those countries can learn to take care of themselves: the US doesn't need to let them freeload by outsourcing armed services to the US instead of investing in their own. While all that US taxpayer spending to bloat the armed services isn't appreciably improving US living standards with better social services (education, healthcare, poverty & work programs) or going to foreign aid, those countries investing less in their armed services from this arrangement get to dedicate more of their spending to improve their living standards with better social services.
Alliances don't require permanent foreign bases: allies can train with & host partners on an as-needed basis when the occasion demands. US taxpayers would prefer to invest in better alternatives that appreciably improve their lives.
That wasn't the question though
It answers why the US doesn't need bases on foreign soil & why its taxpayers don't want them either.
That's not a question that was asked.
None of that changes the fact that US taxpayers don't want to overspend on armed services with their foreign bases & none of that is necessary for an alliance: they're unneeded & unwanted.
Unfortunately, even if we could convince them to cut military spending, they wouldn't use the recaptured funds to improve American life, they'd just give it to the Sociopathic Oligarchs
That goes for both MAGAs and Dems. The Dems are no different than MAGAs, they would much rather smooch the donors than the voters.
Probably not: voters get the politicians they vote for. At least it's not wasted on armed services & foreign bases US taxpayers don't want or need. The mere fact it could be spent better is enough reason not to spend it there.
It's also ironic to see some Americans whine about the military invasion of their cities while they've been doing much much worse in other countries, against international laws. It's only appropriate to surround a building with helicopters in the middle of the night, invade their homes, force whole families outside and treat them like animals when it's done by heroes finding WMDs in a country full of terrorists, not in American cities.
To be fair, many of those "whining" also disagree with our history of international conduct.
The same people who want to "bring democracy" to foreign nations are also cheering on these city invasions.
We aren't all shitty.
Indeed. They are absolutely right to whine and should in fact do much more than just that. In a way it's what makes it easy to be cynical about the situation.
At least so far your heroes haven't cut power, water, and destroyed civilian infrastructure. Although apparently destroying schools wouldn't change much in terms of education.
But still. You aren't all shitty. Of course. It's just that the good people will still let this happen and even participate if you give them a reason. I'm old enough to remember the Freedom Fries. I'm old enough to remember people protesting the illegal invasion of another country by the US. See its civilians tortured and described as "collateral damage". And the people that participated in this are heroes. Veterans. Commenting here. Saying that no, the US will not invade Canada, or Mexico, or Greenland, because the population, and even the troops, wouldn't allow it. English is not my native language and I struggle to describe how fucking naive, gullible, and wrong that is.
I could easily be stuck in the US but the "lottery of life" made me born 200 km North of its borders. We don't choose where we live, or get bombed by a US missile. Some people in the US certainly also know that. I'm just sorry there isn't more of them/you.
Treason #8,653 to be clear
Step one to building the "Golden Dome," create an environment where multiple nations Air Force bases can exist under the dome, you know, in case it had no purpose before
LOL, "America First". More like FAFO.
The jagoffs that think that Taco gives a flying fuck about this country or anyone in it...
Fuck Donald Trump
Sure hope no one calls in an anonymous tip to ICE.
I don't get the whole uproar on this one. Trump made a deal with Qatar in 2017 for F-15s and training. Biden made a deal with Qatar in 2022 for drones and training. Now they are coming to train as per the two deals. Am I missing something?
We don't even have an Israeli air force base.
We have no foreign bases.
If I'm wrong about that this is the first I'm hearing of it in the 30 years of whatever the fuck this not reality experience is.
Singapore has had a contingent in Mountain Home since 2008. They train on F-15s.
The Qatar deal is similar it just seems they are going to have their own facility unlike Singapore which is embedded with the 428th fighter squadron.
It is my understanding that this isn't the Qatar government building an airbase in Idaho but a facility inside a US base in Idaho.
I'm guessing racists don't want no ay-rabs setting a base up near them, and prob feel betrayed that their orange idol would allow such a thing
HA! Just when you think another clown can't possibly fit in the car the fattest clown walks out and somehow takes their place.
These are leverage points that even remotely savvy political operators can work on.
They should just have never announced it the US does this shit all the time.
They don't feel betrayed at having Taco raising taxes and inflation and working on destroying the job market and access to health care....but this is where they draw the line.
So from what I can surmise in these last couple weeks, Trump and Hegseth are going to use Idaho towns as "training grounds" for the Qatari military.
Did these fuckers forget that Obama killed Osama and was in the process of dismantling daesh when Trump took over and abandoned all that shit?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣leopards eating a lot of faces 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope they eat Kegbreath and Dickhead in Chief alive
What even is Qatar's objective with this?
It probably has less to do with Qatar and more with US arms producers wanting to sell fighter jets and drones to Qatar.
Training their military? I mean I'm not sure who they expect to fight and win, but eh.
Qatar royalty is really into the B52's so it makes sense.
It is why they wanted their own private idaho.