Uproar as EU Parliament declines to hold minute of silence for Charlie Kirk
Right-wing lawmakers pushed for a tribute to the U.S. conservative influencer who was shot dead.
European Parliament President Roberta Metsola on Thursday rejected a bid by right-wing factions to hold a minute of silence for slain U.S. conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.
The initiative was first proposed by Charlie Weimers, an MEP from the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR), as a symbolic measure “to declare that our right to freedom of speech cannot be extinguished,” according to an email chain with dozens of MEPs that was seen by POLITICO.
https://www.politico.eu/article/chalie-kirk-eu-parliament-declines-minute-of-silence/Open linkView original on lemmy.world1426
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Why the fuck would EU Parliament give a shit about an American YouTuber?
They cause an uproar anytime they don't get what they want. Like toddlers having a tantrum. It's part of a very calculated strategy, and the sad part is, it seems to work.
I work for a major casino in Nevada. During the last campaign, we hosted both Tim Walz and Donald Trump. When Walz was here, his supporters were absolutely pleasant to have over. Polite, mature, etc. Then the Trump Campaign had their event, their supporters made it a point to go around the casino acting like immature high school kids that just attended a pep rally. It was like they were going out of their way to disrupt operations of a business that actually welcomed them in. It really exemplifies the type of absolute trash filling that portion of the American population.
As Thomas Mann put it referring tothe late 1930s, they tried dicatorship of the proletariat. Now it's dictatorship of the scum of the earth.
I'm still trying to decide how much is that, and how much they just like outraging. Gets the blood pumping, y'know.
Kirk certainly knows what it's like when the blood's pumping.
Not for long.
Maybe we need to do the same for anthing caving in to fascists, and write it off as "weak" when they do so. Fascists detest being called weak.
And then they have the gall to say they have thick skin and that liberals are the snowflakes. They have contempt for reality.
He's not just a YouTuber, he's a Republican Mega-Bundler. One of the richest country's premier bagmen has been slain. How can you be so callous? It's not like he's a Palestinian or a Minnesota Congressperson or a Colorado school kid, here. He's important!
Yeah, the GOP keeps trying to make this asshole into something more than he's not. He wasn't even part of ANY government service. Like, this clown wasn't even a local parks and rec employee of a small town.
the GOp need something to unify the disarra-yed supporters of magats. THE MSM will just sweep this under the rug like they did with RUSH, ONCE THE NEWS cycle blows over, they did nothing of noteworthy to benefit society so they will just disappear as soon as people reorient themselves with epstein again.
If the EU Parliament had to have a minute of silence for every shitty American killed by a gun, they'd never have time for anything else.
the us has like hundreds of gun deaths every day
4 mass shootings this past Sunday; and 4 isn't even a 'record' day by half.
Which 4? I'm not doubting just checking sources as I hadn't heard about them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2025
And very few of them are on record advocating for how we should not have empathy for gun victims. The right wingers whining for compassion here are dishonouring his legacy.
As an American, I laughed out loud at this one. They sure wouldn't!
No mention of the kids killed in that school shooting.
These people can go fuck themselves.
The outrage is the point. Don't give them the satisfaction.
You don't even have to be specific, I just inherently 'reckon there was a school shooting somewhere in the last two weeks in the US.
Pretty sure they're referring to the school shooting that happened on the same day.
https://apnews.com/article/colorado-high-school-shooting-3f4fc4338247a661874060e06cb16f43
I literally was not aware of said shooting, usually watching political drama around free speech and encryption, but man, that really figures.
Because the EU has a lot of fascist chuds in it who stand for what fuckface stood for.
The US is speedrunning christofacism. But we aren't the only ones with a major infection.
Complicates my exit strategy. 😐
The only viable exit strategy at this point is either manning the guns, or reloading for the gunners.
Vivé Luigi!
I think they would for Orbán out of courtesy. But an American influencer who's also against its principles? Only the Patriot faction.
"Patriot"
The air quotes are really important here. Thanks for stressing that.
As a reminder, we hanged people at Nuremberg for doing exactly what Charlie Kirk spent his whole career doing.
🤣🤣🤣 the bros and I spent weeks quoting this, genuinely wasn't expecting to see it here, best laugh I've had this week. Thank you.
Why would Kirk even be eligible for a moment of silence?!
He wasn't a member of state. He wasn't even on someone's staff.
He literally was just some guy. Not even a notable guy. Just some guy that was conservative who, AT BEST, said some controversial things.
He had said some really heinous shit
Absolutely. I'm just saying even if we really squint and try to pass off his garbage as something positive, he doesn't deserve anything from a foreign body, let alone a moment of silence.
On one hand, to Europe they were just some guy. True.
On the other, they were the co-founder and CEO of a political influencer operation so influential that the US President and their party are doing all this crap to honor them. Kirk is responsible for radicalizing many people into real violence.
But we do issue official fascist decree to lower flags to half staff for 5 days.
Just like we did when the Democratic rep and her husband were assassinated back in June.
Oh wait, I'm wrong, we didn't hear a single fucking thing resembling reverence from the Nazis about that terrorist attack.
Why should they hold a moment of silence? Kirk wasn't a US official.
Did they hold a moment of silence when that minnesota dem senator was killed? Honestly curious if there is even precedent for them doing it even for a politician.
I'm sure they don't hold a moment of silence every time someone in the US dies of gun violence, since they would never be able to speak...
Exactly... Kirk was literally indoctrinating children into a hateful, murderous ideology. All of this praise is sickening.
Find the praise, find the sickos.
Only a dead Nazi is a good Nazi.
And that is more than just a slogan.
In my mind it stems from the realization that those who don't honour the social contract forfeit any protection granted by it.
Take it or leave it, but don't cherry-pick.
If you hate on people and want them dead, well, guess what other people may think of your right to live?
They laughed and mocked them. Insisting they were insane and got what they deserved. Even Trump said he did not call the governor to give condolences as he considered Tim Walz beneath him.
This is just one of those "did you even say thank you?" moments when Trump, Vance, and the other GOP Muppets try to generate outrage and play upon the ignorance of their base.
It's a show made exclusively for the idiots.
Id answer your question, but I have to wait until the backed up moment of silence log is complete. Were adding one every 30 seconds
he wasn't elected, he wasn't important, and after he was killed, most search traffic was asking who the fuck he was. Now he's being formed into a martyr for the Nazis.
But the hammer incident and Minnesota incident I will cherish this moment the rest of my life, where's charlie's grave I got a drop a deuce!!
Wait, really? Nobody knew him? I guess it makes sense: everyone knows the song but nobody knows the singer. Only in this case it's not a song, it's propaganda and indoctrination. Like how if Christopher Rufo kicked the bucket, few would know he literally invented the CRT scare.
Game recognize game.
Official of what? I've only ever heard of his podcast
"Why would anyone in Europe care?"
I think the point of it would be to signal to Trump that Europe is his vassal. Trump says it's sad that this guy is dead, therefore Europe is sad. Doesn't really matter who it is or what's up. You're just following the pledge of fealty.
So, I think it's good that the EU decided they're sovereign for now. This sort of thing is always an ongoing project.
Yeah, keyword is "right wing" lawmakers.
In my country at least, the far right is currently looking up to the US and sucking off Trump. Their true master is Putin, but they can't praise Putin in public, we used to be part of the union.
Here in Australia there's a few Trump sycophants that pull this type of stuff occasionally, or try saying "make Australia great again", and just nutters that put Trump stickers and whatever on their cars.
The only explanation I've been able to develop is that they enjoy the reactions they get from people. In the same way siblings antagonise each other for a cheap thrill, these guys just like the feeling of antagonising people.
Our recent election has shown that Trumpism doesn't get much love here in Australia.
It's interesting how you say this because I serve MAGAs. I'm a bartender in small town Merica.
They're naturally good people. They care. But if politics enter into the conversation, the narrative changes.
Many of them, when brouched with a hypothetical/reasonable question, such as, "Don't you find it interesting that if you speak online with people of other nations, they all find us shameful?" they say fuck them, 'Merica! We'd fuck them up anyway, if it came down to it.
They want to get a rise out of the "libtards". I've witnessed them preening and delighted out of the reaction they insight.
Once I steer the conversation, so I don't shoot my own damned self, they start complaining about prices in the same sentence they hope the tariffs will sink in and help them recover their losses.
We are a nation being forced fed our thoughts, opinions, and ideals. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
Oh no. Anyway release the Epstein files
While I agree, do you actually think it will change anything?
Nothing fundamentally. Might speed up the course we're on but that about it.
European here.
I don't give a fuck about dead Nazis.
Why not? They're the good kind.
That is true.
I prefer my Nazis dead
I do.
A fuck of approval that is!
Good. Absolute shit state of affairs that so many people in this country think this ratshit motherfucker deserves to be eulogized.
I was out on my bike ride yesterday and one of the places I stop is next to a flagpole. The fucking flag was at half-mast for this asshole, just preposterous.
I'm downright celebrating.
Now if only uh...ALL OF THEM could die of lung rot, I'd be satisfied.
We thank you for that.
A minute of silence for every dead child in Gaza or nothing for no one.
If we did a minute of silence per child in Gaza murdered by the IDF maybe they would realize how bad this is
That's months of silence.
I went ahead and did the calculation; I think I'm getting about 4 weeks (extrapolating from the last year, 20k dead kids -> 2 weeks of silence. Doubled for the two years.).
Lower than I expected. I'm guessing I haven't internalized that gaza is still a fairly small area, thus with a small population? Or was the first year substantially more deadly than the last (which really would surprise me)?
Yes, but imagine a solemn minute for each named individual that lasts 5 weeks non-stop.
Not counting mutilated, orphaned, and (basically all of them, so 700k-ish) homeless. And with zero prospect of it ever getting better until they are alive.
I went with this figure, but same diff:
wiki/Effect_of_the_Gaza_war_on_children_in_the_Gaza_Strip
bbc.com/c4gmk2yj5e9o
The reason for the high number of children deaths even assuming indiscriminate killing (ie not targeting specifically children, which at least proven for snipers, isn't the case): Gaza/Palestinians are being severely oppressed for decades (since 48, or 67 more directly), they have artificially limited water access, electricity, medicine, etc so they die young & in Gaza like 40% of the population are children.
Gaza Strip has a ×2.6 higher density of population than New York City (5,967.5/km2 vs 2,309.2/km2), but less than a quarter of population.
Bcs oppression.
General wiki info:
Til - despite all the hardship they have higher literacy than USA with 86% (normal countries are ofc 98+).
I think the orphan-crushing machine will only stop when it's eaten itself or has been beaten up.
Unfortunately you're correct
Why would we care in Europe about a fascist US citizen dying on his own soil? He’s just some random dude for us. More concerning are the murders of school children and the Epstein files.
The only reason I even knew about him was because of people mocking him and denouncing his grifting and reprehensible ideology through memes.
I was fascinated by his manlet body, pumpkin-like head, small face, and chromosomal features.
High rate of sisterfucking among the fundies.
Kirk's wife didn't look chromosomal, always surprising what attractive women the biggest chumps can attract.
It’s because she’s a Nazi too.
One could say he bore a mitochondrial burden.
He's literally a right wing influencer, nothing else.
Did they request a moment of silence for the children who were masacred?
Or just for the guy that preached hate?
Definitely just the guy that preached hate, they don't care about the kids, but I am curious if they held one for the elected democratic members that were assassinated a few months prior.
No they did not. President couldn't even mention them in his latest statement when speaking of all the recent victims of gun violence. He skipped over the the names of legislators that actually died. Of course those names are of Democrats.
Why should they? He wasn’t an elected official in Europe, he wasnt a world leader or a diplomat. He was some influencer, a dirtbag that spread racism and hate for money. He was Logan Paul basically, why would a parliament have a silence for him??
He went to Cambridge for a debate where he got absolutely trounced.
Apparently, he was in Japan last week to talk with the Sanseito Party, otherwise known as Japan First.
I think the earlier guy was asking if he's ever left the US because "travel widens the mind", but when people like that leave the country, they don't even really need to "leave the country". A private plane, constantly driven by his own people, eating his own food, etc etc etc.
Like Trump can go anywhere in the world and still not leave his cosy little McD and Fox&Friends bubble.
Maybe once or twice, for CPAC held in Hungary.
If you’re gonna be silent for a minute every time some American is gunned to death we’d never be able to talk
It is more newsworthy the few days someone isnt being gunned down in the USA really
Why is this relevant to EU? Some US podcaster has died... Not anyone important
Because US right-wing influences European right-wing politicians.
But the rest who aren't paid by them won't have it, lol.
It's only ever the European far-right, it's not even all of them and most of the ones which are influenced by America are pretty selective about what they take in because most of that shit in Europe is seen as seriously retarded shit even amongst the far-right here (for example, religiousity doesn't land well nowadays unless you're talking about really backwards places like Hungary, outside maybe the UK, nobody gives a shit about the ideas of the transphobes and there is zero support for the kind of gun ownership laws the US has).
Sure, some shit does leak, but the fully packaged message from people like Charlie Kirk would just not work anywhere around here.
My bet it that it was a handful of total unknowns amongst the European Far-Right who maybe get money from American sources (some European Far-Right parties were created with the money Bannon brought some years ago very openly to "create far-right parties in Europe" and I would be surprised if certain American interests had stopped buying such politicians in Europe) that suggested this and the others just went along with it.
When it, naturally, failed miserably to gain traction beyond that handful of obscure politicians, the newspaper owned by Germany's very own Murdoch-clone then described the reaction to that refusal by the overwhelming majority of the EU parliament to do it, as an "Uproar"
He would be proud
Why would they? He's a frickin podcaster, not some virtuous political figure gunned down doing their duty to the public. He was paid to be at an event to promote himself and his agenda.
Cuz christo fascism is a global scourg-I mean cance-I mean... uhhhh movement. Yea, That.
Global bowel movement, more like.
2000 year case of constipation.
He was a lot more than a podcaster, he was a well-funded hatemonger leading the neoconfederate christofascist wing of MAGA.
That doesn't make the point any more salient. He's a nobody hate mongerer, not an elected political figure. Why would any government anywhere give a shit about him?
“Lets us all be distracted so the peons will forget how many pedos are ruling the world”
Honestly I reserve judgment on everything until (if really) we find out who killed him and why. I don’t see how this killing benefits “the left”. Feels more like a Reichstag moment. He already served his useful purpose of helping Trump get elected last year. I’ve never seen the conservatives (including previously unconfirmed conservatives) I know so riled up, calling for vengeance.
Yeah that’s essentially what I’m saying. They’re such fucking tools that the media amplified this to distract them from the Epstein files and it’s working just as intended. Kirk getting killed is something I’m just apathetic about and it’s not remotely close to the news that the media is making out to be, in order to distract people from the fact that they voted for and support a pedophile
Good on the EU Parliament
Pwwweeese, we need a moment of silence for
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adolf hitler's #1 follower 🥺👉👈
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If they had a minute of silence for him, to be fair they'd need to have a minute of silence for every American gun death, and then they could never say anything.
At least then they couldn't pass chat control 😎
Oh noes. Anyway, I found the bugger that fell from my nose yesterday.
Why the fuck would Europe hold a minute of silence for that piece of shit? He was a Trump mouthpiece, the same Trump that is fucking up economic relationships and who is basically enabling Putin.
Why should anyone hold a vigil? The guy was essentially a loudmouthed pundit. A nobody. This is a cynical power grab by fascists. They try to weaponize everything. A moment of thanks and a toast to his passing would be more appropriate.
Thank you EU for not glorifying yet another Hitler wannabe! "Never Again" means just that!
Never again will we miss getting on the ground floor of growing fascism
There's absolutely no reason for any body of government, anywhere in the world, or anyone to hold a minute of silence for Charlie Kirk. He's done nothing of value to humanity or mankind.
Net negative, even. He even died while deflecting a question about gun violence.
Lets hold a moment of silence to thank god for removing a fascist propagandist from the earth might be okay.
He was a podcaster. His death means nothing. It's manufactured hate and blame by MAGA world. What changed today from his death? Nothing.
Would you say Charlie's proposal was... shot down?
The proposal failed...by a long shot ?
Not a fuĺl throated motion.
Fuck Kirk, he doesn't deserve anything other than that bullet.
There was no uproar, no one cares.
Interesting. Release the Epstein files.
You'd have better luck standing on your roof and yelling at random people in red hats that the 80 year old man who is also a convicted felon likes to party with all of the rich people on a private island (probably doing horrible things to men, women & children) and his "friends" can use .00005% of their wealth to make your online presence null and your life a miserable hell.
Why even legitimize this "uproar" by publishing an article about it? Who cares about their faux outrage?
To try and shield pedos
Kirk doesn't deserve a minute of silence. He was a scum bag. His ideas were trash. He got what he was due.
holding a vigil to someone died in the US, responsible for turning men to the right wing manosphere with rhetoric and violence. this has russian back influenced all over it, right wing groups need to shore up thier support for the voters.
The far right, or even the normal right (who I believe to be idiots anyway) are completely silent with regard to the hundreds of kids killed by armed assailants in US schools.
That's because of people like Charlie; who take advantage of people's ignorance and good will.
His closed end debate style is designed to sedate critical thinking. Example; his response to, "how many trans shooters?" was "too many". He just plays on peoples morals and preconceptions.
The audience he retains are people who've been conditioned by the church to surrogate their faith in god with a human pastor. In this way Charlie cultivates an audience that loves trump based on what Charlie tells them about trump.
I'll never forget my sister telling me in Dec 2024, how Trumps policies would be the best thing for the USA, because Charlie kirk is "prolific in economics". Her brain literally broke when I asked her to explain why she thought that.
Exactly. Prompt the other party to exercise the smallest amount of critical thought and you can watch it all unravel. It's fucking exhausting, but that's what it takes.
I once heard someone drop some nonsense in a conversation about how "San Francisco is a dirty place." Not only is "city = dirty" a common right-wing trope, but it had zero place in our conversation. It was just kinda parroted nonsense ham-fisted into our dialogue. I simply replied: "I've been to silicon valley and the touristy parts of downtown, and what I saw was a nice clean place; I can't speak for the rest of it." The guy stopped for a sec and said "well, I haven't been there myself so I guess I can't either."
Yes! We're arguing with people who literally don't form their own opinions. That's why they projects so hard that "the left is brain-washed."
Permanent silence has to be better than a minute of silence, right?
Its outrageous enough how the usa is treating him like a saint, good for the EU for not doing the same
Yeah im gonna be blunt here, People who are seen as important, die all over the world every day, and Im having trouble drawing a line to why Charlie Kirk has fuck all to do with anything in any country in Europe.
you know, two countries that might have a reason to be upset for losing someone who WAS important to them, would be Russia and Belarus
"European Parliament President Roberta Metsola on Thursday rejected a bid by right-wing factions"
That's the stage the US was at about 15 years ago.
"Should we have a moment of silence?"
"Absolutely not! He was a Nazi propagandist!"
"Fair enough. Moving on...."
Good, why should the EU care? This whole political scene is just US doing its best to try and escalate bad relations with EU.
Of course it is. Putin hates the EU and NATO, and Trump is Putin's bitch.
Man, fuck those assholes. We have motherfuckers shooting actual political leaders this year and these dicks want a moment of silence for a podcaster?
Eat a bag of my shit, Charlie Weimers
he is just an influencer on a foreign country, not an EU elected official or high ranked member
Not even an elected member from a foreign government (like the Minnesota democrats who were shot a couple of months ago)
Trump is going to find out soon how ANTIFA the world really is.
Imagine the world boycotting the US?
Of course, Russia won't be able to help because that will give up the ghost between Trump and Putin. And Putin will have the last laugh as the old Soviet counter to capitalism comes to fruition.
Crystal ball into the past
Keep in mind this man defected and is pushing Western anti socialist propaganda.
His theory of social manipulation is what is important in this video.
That video is AMAZING!
The MAGAs are just doing exactly what the Russians want. Everything this guy predicted is coming true. EVERYTHING!
... That video is a former KGB guy claiming color revolution theory as a real thing - it's total bullshit, dreamed up to entice the same people that fall for Cultural Marxism today. It sounds really good, doesn't it? But it's all just confirmation bias - you're ignoring everything else that's happening, and the beats he lists off are incredibly common. Oh look:
WOW! But we have recordings of people complaining about the same things carved into megaliths a few thousand years ago, so he's not exactly going to burn out his crystal ball by predicting they might come up again. It's the exact same kind of BS the CIA trots out to explain how it overthrew all those South American governments: they didn't, they just took credit for it and everyone believed them because it sounds so good. If you want more evidence that his theories are bullshit, look around: Did the US fall to a "Global Communist Conspiracy" in the last 40 years...?
Except that everything he saying is actually happening, and it all tracks with Alexandra Dugin's Foundations of Geopolitics, which is the Russian playbook, Google it.
It may have sounded like a fantasy when this was recorded, but after all these years of seeing Russia make steady progress on brainwashing half of Erica and controlling the government right to the very top, it all sounds like a perfectly accurate prediction.
The guy even talked about it happening right in front of our faces, and we just let it happen. That's exactly how MAGA rose. They just let themselves be lied to, and they chose to ignore everything else and believe it. And here you are doing exactly what the guy predicted - ignoring the truth.
That Aleksandr Dugin?
(I have read it, it's... a textbook. Not derogatorily, it says nothing new because that's not it's goal and it does present it's material in a pretty engaging way, it's just not more than that (and it didn't really claim to be))
Okay but like, how exactly, did MAGA rise? He doesn't specify that either, mind, he just makes the controversial claim that people would talk about the rise of a social movement they oppose. This is, in this case literally, propaganda 101. That you're entrenching yourself so hard against someone presenting a contrary idea is the fundamental way this works. I'm not attacking or rejecting you, I promise, please believe me. I used to be pretty anti-feminist as a teen (thanks reddit), and like the cat says, we all fall for propaganda. There's no shame in that.
What I'm telling you is that this type of video (I think literally these ones with Yuri Bezmenov), where someone in a position of presumed authority claims that there's a vast Global Communist Conspiracy (or the like) that will take down America if it doesn't do things like "teach the next generation True Patriotism", will be used ten years later as an example in Foundations of Geopolitics. You're falling for the exact same propaganda that actually led to the rise of MAGA. It's not "enabling social rise through careful manipulation and Marxist Leninist concepts being unchallenged", it's telling both sides they're right and giving them proof that the other side is clearly being manipulated.
("It's right in front of you" in particular means nothing. You can't hide a huge social movement of the kind needed to destabilize a country, that just... doesn't even make sense. It's just a call to accept your own biases as factual. "It's not a shadowy baseless conspiracy, it's exactly whatever you think it is!")
The Russia Russia Russia brainworm people are fascinating. They think 15 facebook memes can swing an election. Like, how? Can a fart in a hurricane affect the leaves of a tree in a significant way?
15 facebook memes can't, but tens of millions working in concert with a mass propaganda establishment designed to churn out thematic nonsense at a rate impossible to refute while spurring the divisions in culture by doing things like subverting (via funding) establishsd american cultural commentators? Yea that probably had an effect. Did it dictate the results? no. But it sowed discord, and placed a heavy thumb on the side of the scales that won.
Yup, this video is from the late 80s I believe.
This is the machine having its eggs come home and roost.
This is what all good people should decry from the top of our lungs.
Governments and big money keep us under their thumb and it's about time the masses wake up and unite against these monsters.
And then what? We all hold hands and have a good cry?
Trump has main character syndrome. Nobody cares. So many people get murdered all the time, why is this guy special? He has a YouTube channel?
Everyone knows what's going on.
The reason is that he was an anti-free speech hate monger with a huge following. In the minds of the far right those people are literally the only ones with ideas and the right to speak, and any form of attack, physical or verbal is not acceptable.
Another thing is that they want to force others to acknowledge their superiority over others. Remember Nancy Pelosi's being almost murdered? Or the killing of a Democrat law maker? Or even the attempted kidnapping of a governor? In their minds those are jokes. Trump even insulted Tim Walz when asked if he would give his condolences to the murders that took place there.
This is like how bullies behave towards their victims. If a bully shoves a kid down and breaks something expensive that they have, it is nothing... but if the kid has to serve the bully a drink in a cafeteria and it is 1ml too little or too much, that is the end of the world as far as that person's competence goes.
fuck that kirk idiot and the usa
Just lay some flowers to the entrance of Hitlers bunker ... I think it's a parking lot now
So I'm an American. I'm not understanding when this moment of silence was supposed to happen. Usually an event or a game we care about, this might happen for someone truly influential. I was out of the know so I went to learn.
What the MEP(whatever tf they are) was asking, is that the European Parliament take a minute of silence during their Plenary.
Would US congress or senate take a moment of silence for a social influencer on either side of the spectrum for any other nation?
That is a rhetorical question. Nice try, but this is only "news" on social media where nobody would have known or cared about it if someone didn't post about it.
Our own government won't even do it. Football season is starting fresh and they didn't do it. Why the fuck would another nation give a shit???
it was already done at an NFL game. i think? it was already done in Congress, where (if memory serves), right-wingers didn't feel a moment of silence went far enough and demanded a spoken prayer.
edit - to clarify, done specifically for the newly dead influencer, whose name i don't care to type atm.
There's not even an uproar, that's Russian fiction.
Who is this guy Kirk and why would EU Parlament hold a minute of silence? Seriosly, he is just another gun violence victim in US, not EU problem. Not even US problem, every idiot can have a gun so "you ask for it".
In a week or two, hopefully just some dead fucking nothing-knower nobody.
I mean, obviously, but this still made me literally lol - like why was this even an expectation?
(I should know more about these ECRs.)
If we don't do it for """global""" school mass shutting events (due to the frequency it would be very impractical), this "school shooting" shouldn't be the case either.
Also influencers like this pos actually affect the practical liberties of freedom of speech by "shouting the loudest" from their professionally raised platforms to comparably silence minorities & their talking points.
Also, doesn't usually Kenny get killed?
Charlie was a nobody who got famous being racist on YouTube. Nothing else.
He deserves nothing.
Sir, don't besmirch racists like that. Kirk was a proud Nazi. Not all racists are Nazis, some are just idiots.
Kirk is NOT A HERO
We don't care. We also would not hold a moment of silence if Joe Rogan was shot.
He was some right-wing idiot influencer, what do you expect?
Should we have a minute of silence if some Putin propagandist in Russia dies? Wtf why is this a topic at all?
What's with the Trump fd little girls on Epstein island, can we get back to that?
I wouldn't call it an uproar. More like a tantrum.
That would be the same as if the British Parliament held a minute of silence to rever the death of Joseph Göbbels back in '45.
Why the fuck should they hold a minute's silence for this piece of shit anyway. He was an asshole in life, he got shot for his troubles and now the far right are trying to make a martyr of him Horst Wessel style. And that includes some some fellow traveller who happens to be an MEP in this instance.
Based and anti-redpilled.
I held a moment of silence, it was when I was eating and I didn't want to choke as I was listening to what happened.
Charlie would want people like me killed and he would take great joy in it. I also don't have anything to prove to his peons by expending emotional energy for him.
They say influencer. I say it’s Propaganda.
I bet that 99% of Europeans didn't know who this loser was.
The USA is starting to have a social justice assassin problem.
Oh no! Anyways.
But it's the left's fault for correctly identifying fascists as fascists
Do we act now, or wait until the fascism gets more powerful: When is the turning point in history; when will citizens will choose to observe their own responsibilities?
You literally watched part of that happen yesterday, my dude.
Don't get caught up in romanticizing historical events. History books list big historical events all in one go and jump from one to another through the pages, enough to a point where one could think that something was happening every day. But we all know that wasn't the case. Nobody writes about the weeks or months between those events where nothing happened.
So far, it seems more likely that this guy is a groyper.
"Flawed vessel doing the lord's work," as the holy-rollers say.
(movie trailer voice) They made fun of liberal weenies.
(character from movie) Universal Healthcare is only bad for insurance executives!
(movie trailer voice) They ridiculed queer voices.
(movie caricature of bi guy at a protest, southern U.S. accent) The Bible says Adam AND Eve, not Adam OR Eve!"
(movie trailer voice) This summer, the Left strikes right back.
July 4
SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR
[This film is not yet rated]
(movie trailer voice) They thought making fun of people trying to do the right thing was funny and cringe, until those people started to show more spine and action than anybody else.
They are pushing OTHER countries to hold vehicles WTF?!?!?!
Because US feels they are more important than they actually are, and have been trying to claw back an image of being number 1; while they prove each week, by defunding education, health and science, that they have slid backwards from world leadership
Why would the EU Parliament give a crap about an American christofascist? Do you guys typically hold public prayers for Nazis?
Probably the fastest and easiest ”no” in European Parliament history.
Why would they?
No uproar. Fascists got told no by the majority.
They can always go have a viking funeral, or sacrifice a goat, or slice their arms while ululating, or whatever the hell those people do, just not in the European Parliament.
Christ, this motherfucker wasn't JFK.
Shit, he's not even RFK
It should either not happen at all or become a worthy tradition. Who wouldn't like to mourn Shapiro, Tate, Peterson, Netanyahu, Trump, Vance etc passing if they take off in a timely fashion? It wouldn't hurt to have said moment of silence every week or so.
I read Shapiro canceled his next event. It's reminiscent of health insurance CEO's hiring security or not showing up to the office after the United Health Care shooting.
Who's still calling to free Luigi? This will be forgotten in another week or two and whatever trial that happens will not be front page news.
Let's celebrate our freedom of speech (which isn't even a thing in the EU) by forcing everyone to be quiet!
Of course it is. Just not like in the US.
No, EU has freedom of expression...
Which is why it's "not like in the US" because it's a different thing...
We can tell that, because the fucking words are different.
https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information
Kirk advocated for violence constantly, most of what he said wouldn't have been legal in Europe
You're conflating the philosophical concept of freedom of speech with the first amendment of USA's constitution.
He said they have "freedom of speech".
I pointed out they have "freedom of expression" and that the vast amount of shit Kirk said doesn't meet the more rigid standards of the EU's laws...
And you think I'm conflating things?!
I'm literally clarifying, the person conflating is the one using two legal terms from different countries interchangably.
This isn't a philosophical debate, it's literally what all of these words mean...
You could have at least accused me of being pedantic, at least that would have been using words correctly
Freedom of speech is not a legal term outside of USA. It's a concept.
I'm sorry I can't explain this in a way you're capable of understanding, you will have to ask someone else for any further help with this or any other topic.
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Lol
Oh this is brilliant!
Most people in the real world outside of the internet didn't even know who this guy was until yesterday, especially outside the US. When I was talking to my roommate after it happened the first thing he said was "who's Charlie Kirk?"
Which is actually a bit of a problem, he's been pretty effective at being a propaganda spreading machine.
I will say that seeing all his no empathy pro-gun death comments coming back to be used against him does warm the cockles of my heart.
Good on EU...
Influencer = just some guy. If he was close to you, go have your own moment of silence.
Turning Point and Turning Point UK are funded by the same group of people that they are.
I never suspected that Charlie Kirk was deemed more important or valuable than all of those schoolchildren (past, present and future) that were killed by gun violence. I expect Solomon Grundy to cause some shit later today in this bizarro world.
yeah the fascist can go shove baseball bats covered in barbed wire and razors up their hairy arseholes
No lube !
Well no, right to free speech isn't curbed here. The people are just reserving their right to kill off hypocritical dogwhistling would-be fascists.
A moment of silence, please, for the idiocy of the Trump right.
Can you please respect out influencers??
Why should EU care about US affairs ??
Oh shit EU be careful. Are you really going to follow us down the shitter?
Most EU countries have at least one shithead campaigning for that.
Have any assemblies had a minute’s silence for him? (The Russian Duma perhaps, or the Hungarian parliament?)
He was a glorified internet troll who just happened to have the backing of some very wealthy right wing fuckheads. He wasn't a politician. He was never elected by anyone to anything. He was a paid propagandist, and not even a smart one. The right wingers are about to ghoulishly try to profit off his death for the foreseeable future like this though.
And of course it came from a right wing extremist. Doing everything to cause that tasty, tasty outrage. Dick.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to organize a minute of farting?
Just arrange a tactical order of Taco Bell.
what the actual fuck?I read declined as "decided" phew...We are a Circus. I don't care, if you like it or not.
"When you're born into this world you are given a ticket to the freak show. When you are born in the United States, you are given a front row seat." -George Carlin
让你的敌人消失。
Bunch of fascists and fascist bootlickers
Oh man is the EU going to be shocked when Republicans impose more tariffs on the EU over this egregious oversight.
Also, don't forget this:
https://www.inquisitr.com/was-charlie-kirks-death-a-trump-cover-up-to-hide-epstein-files-netizens-think-so
Don't let them bury the truth about Charlie sacrifice.
That's embarrassing
The proper reason for moments of silence are as described by our late George Carling who called for one such moment for the senior citizens who all stood up on a rollercoaster on a turn and thus went flying off of it. But as he put it, why a moment of silence? How about a moment of screaming in panic? HAaaaaa! NOOOOOO! DON'T STAND UP!!!! NOOOOOO! THEY DID!!!!! NOOOO! SPLATT!
Later he does explain that the senior citizens were retarded. But don't take my word for it. Google it, its hilarious!
Do they also hold a minute of silence ever time a single refugee is killed by their border violence or when thousands die due to European imperialism?
WHAT IN THE HELL?
Glad the magat infection hasn't gotten to them at least
Me during the minute's silence.
Was charlie from the EU? Do all european countries have freedom of speech. I often heard europeans (back before trump) pointing to it as one of the things they would like to bring over from the us to their country.
There are still repercussions to all speech, even in the us
Yeah I was more wondering if free speech in the EU is something they tend to have moments around. As I said I was under the impression the us had the the sorta highest level of freedom around it because of it being part of the bill of rights. Its a us thing to begin with so of course its a big deal in the us.
They have some that can be argued to be better than free speech, but has some major risks if you have a totalitarian government, speech is a responsibility, and you need to be careful, heck even in the USA you don't have absolute free speech.
That man is right they should hold a minute of silence for someone killed due to is freedom of speech and a minute of silence for everone being killed by an oppressor
Edit: two separate groups. A minute of silence for the actual people being oppressed by people that this guy supports
Is that why it happened? Sure about that?
Kind of like how the Iraqis "hate us for our freedoms"
Well I was implying that they could've told him sure whatever, but only if we also take a moment for every oppressed person like the Palestinians as an example.
Since right wing europeans would definitely not stand for that.
I guess I should've been clearer
Oh you know who the killer is and their motives?
How many minutes of silence would that cause per minute?
Or are you only interested in silence for popular Nazis?
Oh yeah I reread my comment. I meant to be vague and say that we should hold one for everyone that oppressed not that he was oppressed. Two separate groups. Meant to hint that they should hold one for every Palestinian (and other like the uyghurs,rohigna, etc.)
That I can agree with!
After all each Palestinian (who isn't Hamas) who died at the hands of IDF just for being Palestinian deserves a minute of silence whereas I'm already quite satisfied by Charly Kirk being silent henceforth.
Adding other oppressed groups to these minutes of silence would be fine.
And that is what it boils down to: people like Kirk aren't being oppressed, they're oppressors. They don't deserve minutes of silence, but being silenced for good.