I don't condone murder or political violence, but I won't cry about this guy either.
This young evangelical guy is one of the most popular man in the US. Many americans respect him.
He said Joe Biden was an illegitimate President because Trump won the 2020 US Presidential Election.
He had no issue when JD Vance falsely accused Haitians in Ohio of eating cats and dogs. It didn't bother him at all that these people received death threats.
He praised Trump for sending people with no criminal records to prison in South America (1) (2)
He said the US had wonderful gun laws that shouldn't change. He thinks Canadian gun laws are silly.
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
I don't condone violence or murder. But I'm not going to cry either. Sorry.
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Kirk said gun deaths were worth it to keep the 2nd Amendment. I'm sure he'd include his own in that opinion.
He was about to say that again before he was cut off.
Well he did have "Change my mind" all over that event. Maybe he changed his mind on that, but we'll never know.
All we can say is that someone gave it a shot.
Proved wrong
The 2nd amendment was made for kings but fascists work, Kirk died doing what he loved.
Schadenfreude
I like to judge people by their own standards, making sure to apply their own ideology to them. This is why I'm perfectly fine with fascists getting shot, or conservatives going hungry or without medical care, or bullies being beat up, or bigots being ostracized. It's all tragic... But it's what they wish for, so I'll celebrate for them.
Dude literally said some collateral damage is a-ok in defense of the second amendment. Remember him for who he was and knowing he was perfectly fine with other people going out this way, so why is he any different? He reaped what he sowed.
And I'm seeing a bit of "well we shouldnt celebrate this" type bs. No. Fuck that, full stop. If you're such a miserable sack of shit that people celebrate your death, then be a better person when you're alive if you don't want that. You don't get to ignore human decency your entire life and then cower behind it in death.
"Live by it die by it" he wasn't killed for his opinions, they weren't his he was a puppet and a good little bitch for his daddy trump. 300k USD of taxpayer money was spent on this man per annum, the shooter js did what Elon started and cut public spending 🤷♂️
This is a good approach, genuinely.
This is copium. This is how a person deals with spiritual collapse in a shitty world.
Not the literal meaning of spiritual, but yes absolutely. I try not to be apathetic but I've been more or less beaten into it; so the least I can do is be selective.
i'll save my sympathy for the victims of evergreen high school who also had a school shooting but who won't get covered because the media will be swooning over this ghoul.
I had no idea until you mentioned it.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/10/evergreen-high-school-shooting/
Wow. These statements really make it seem like American politicians are motivated to put a stop to gun violence.
Well not that motivated
Do not let those with a monopoly on violence tell you that violence is wrong.
I got no sympathy for Nazis, the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi
Now go get me some scalps.
So Kirk is now a good Nazi.
I will not celebrate violence. I will not celebrate murder. It's wrong.
I'm sure he loved his wife. He loved his church. He loved his kids.
But this very same man had no issue with throwing men with no criminal records in horrific south american prisons. Men who simply wanted a better life.
He had no issue with spreading lies about election results, even if the result was violence.
He had no issue with lying about legal Haitian migrants eating dogs and cats, even if they received countless death threats.
He believed Canadian gun laws were silly, any angry man should be able to easily purchase guns. He didn't respect Canadians. He laughed at them.
I don't want to sound like a horrible monster, but it's hard for me to feel empathy.
“I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics,” - Charlie Kirk
That cannot be a real quote Jesus Christ
There’s a concerted conservative effort to make empathy a bad thing. Research it. There are many conservative pundits trying to portray empathy as bad.
I know that's how they act, just hearing in such plain words is shocking. Who the fuck hears that and agrees? Cult.
And yet here we are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A54Hkn0vcBY
Yup, it is among the ridiculous (and now somewhat ironic) things he said.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-empathy-quote/
I will in fact celebrate his death. We got here because we allowed tolerance to go WAY too far. Shame needs to make a comeback and if you actively advocate against other people being treated with basic decency, then your death deserves no decency itself. Respect is a two way street - a social contract. You break that and no one owes you shit.
Yup, cheers!!
I mean, I feel sorry for his kids. They didn't choose this life. But I would have felt sorry for them even if he didn't get shot.
He chose his lifestyle. He upset a lot of people and actively defended gun violence. And that did him in.
So it goes.
He found his church to be a convenient venue for his hate speech.
"Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army.” - Brennan Lee Mulligan
I always upvote Brennan.
I celebrate because he tried to erase me and i outlived him.
free Luigi
We're not supposed to cheer the death of those that cheer on the death of tens of thousands of children? The guy was a zionist through and through and the world is better off with one less. Himmler had a family too you know...
Kirk was more a Goebbels than a Himmler, though.
Still, the point doesn't change. Goebbels had a family too.
there's no need to celebrate his death. it's enough merely to acknowledge the fact that the world is a better place without him, however it happened.
Who not both?
(But in Spanish, I'm short of time - sorry.)
por qué no los dos?
¿Porque no los dos?
I'm not saying you can't. I'm just saying it isn't necessary. doesn't mean it might not feel good, what do I know
You can absolutely be against violence and murder and still celebrate that someone awful is dead.
You certainly have no obligation to feel any amount of sympathy.
2 comments from a yt clip of London radio LBC in which James O'brien discusses this with viewers, which I'd say summarise this well:
This is the way.
I told my buddy. That I’m respecting Charlie’s wishes and provide no empathy to the situation. It would be weak to care about his death. Thanks Charlie. And my buddy had a meltdown.
I second that emotion!
Samesies, I'm with you!
How old are you? Have you ever been exposed to personal tragedy?
It is not a "tragedy" when someone reaps the consequences of their actions at the hand of the very tool he fully advocated the use of.
That, my dear friend, is called "comedy". In the theatrical sense of the term, not the modern vernacular.
Late 20s, why do you ask?
Young white male?
How much more information will you request of them? Want to provide the full list beforehand?
Just submit your identification for age verification, it's what Charlie would have wanted.
How old are you? Have you ever been exposed to the consequences of violent, fascist rhetoric?
It's pretty clear they haven't been. I'm going to guess white, male, and toward the upper end of the middle class. They don't have to deal with the systematic de-personing of non-whites and non-males, not to mention the de-humanizing of the LGBTQ+ portion of society. It's easy to make pronouncements from on high when you're, you know, on high.
It was probably a rightwinger who did it anyway, just like it was a rightwinger who shot Trump and did the Vegas Tesla car bomb. Night of Long Knives incoming
I actually found this to be hopeful. It makes me feel like people aren't just going to accept a fascist dictatorship. Hopefully it makes the other fascists think twice before leaving their house.
I'd never heard of this guy until yesterday. He is some social media influencer that believed in the 2nd amendment. Apparently MAGA people are losing their shit, Fox News commentator claims this is an act of war.
Social media bubbles are wild.
And they want a moment of silence for him in europe, the other side of the ocean to them. Go suck your dusty mums, how about that? Moment of silence for your political crony barely any1 even knows? You've got a cheek.
"He had a wife and kids" - so do 30% of the civilian gazan casualties, the other 70% are the wives and kids themselves in Gaza, all deaths he condoned, so do I care about his death? No. Live by it die by it 🤷♂️
Don't feel bad for Charlie! He's graduated! He's now a good Nazi.
Just you wait. They will seize this opportunity to oppress more Americans.
No need to wait, right wingers are already saying left wing groups need to be investigated for their connections to the shooter even though they don't even know who shot him.
Reddit is going to ban a lot of people today. Some of them might end up signing up for Lemmy.
Trump is going to use this as excuse to send troops to every state. Who knows maybe Trump called the hit, he’s know for throwing his friends under the bus literally.
Only blue states.
I think everyone has the wrong take on this. If this happened to someone on the left, most people will just twiddles their thumbs on their keyboards and goes on about their lives.
What people need to realize is his actions and what he has promoted has consequences.
I'll leave it at that.
I have an eerie feeling this will be the beginning of some sort of civil war.
I think the bigger question here is what he was wearing. Was he asking to be murdered?
maybe Ben Shapiro would finally take a break from visiting universities
Oh right. I almost forgot about Shapiro.
I'm sure he can arrange someone with Judeo Christian values to be in the crowd.
Not just christian values though. Also, Abrahamic values is too much.
I’m sure that as he fell over dead, his last thought was “God bless the 2nd Amendment!”
He died as he believed. Good for him.
It's an absolutely terrible thing to happen, that Charlie Kirk had said was necessary to an extent. I will hold our restrictive Canadian gun laws dearly.
And while I am against gun violence of any sort, I will be a lot more upset about and sympathetic for the victims of today's American school shooting at Evergreen High.
He condoned political violence so he was asking for it really
He was a racist piece of propagandist shit. One less
moufhead to feed on this lonely rock, I say.Sounds like he is ok with it 🤷🏻♀️ "It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so we can have the Second Amendment" https://masto.ai/@FirefighterGeek/115181711602912969
While you are busy signaling how honorable you are, not only are they condoning it, but they are carrying it out on anything remotely hispanic or that just suits their political intentions at the moment. 11 dead on a boat, torture by ICE and deaths hidden by deportations to "shit-hole countries", financing and enabling a modern day genocide. While you are busy white knighting your ideals, they will be busy coming up with real or fake reasons to condone it against you.
Zero tolerance of intolerance. Revolutions are led by people like Luigi, not people justifying fractional improvements in a system decaying by strides. The guy should not have died, but society should not be in the state they have rushed it into. There are no perfect solutions in imperfect systems. I did not give a shit about the guy, but I certainly won't begin to give a shit about him now.
"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so we can have the second amendment to protect our other god-given rights."
"We cannot allow them [the shooting victim/s] to emotionally hijack the narrative."
He died by a shot that could only have been made by a high powered rifle. Words to live for, words to die for. While not respected, they are poetic.
It was a .30-06 bolt action rifle from about 200 yards away, I thought?
Good thing high-powered bolt action rifles, like cars, have an identifying license plate equivalent serial number and registered bullet "fingerprint" imprints which can be traced because of adequate gun laws. /s
Due to political figures like him, tens of thousands of Americans are shot and killed each year
I feel sorry for the innocents killed, not the people that helped promote gun violence
I agree OP.
But I also believe he got what he fucking deserved.
You didn't need to condone it. He did so it's not an issue of your morality, it's an issue of his morality.
nothing of value was lost
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I don't condone violence, but I do celebrate his death as the world is now a little less hateful
The problem is that you have two sides who are against each other
One side just wants to live freely and happily
The other side wants to be allowed to hate, discriminate, lock up, and even murder those that they don't like, which is always people with darker skin, women, religions other than evangelical christianity, and of course people who sexually like to do different than them. They also want to be allowed to lie about everyone they hate to be able to stir up even more hate.
Now that somebody shot a guy from that second group, I have to feel bad? Fuck that shit, I'm happy. There is one less hateful person on this world.
i condone the shit out of killing nazis. fuck this pos nazi loser.
I condone it.
You don't have to. You have nothing to prove to them.
I won't cry for Charlie but I have already cried because of the bloodlust and inhumanity I have been exposed to from others.
You’re a good egg, jerkface.
I really appreciated your supportive comments. It's been a rough day of having my darkest suspicions about people tested and not disproved. I never expect to hear a kind word anymore. You must have known it wouldn't go well for you. Thanks.
Nazis killing other Nazis is ALWAYS a good thing, something to be celebrated joyfully by all rational people. And with zero collateral damage it is a huge bonus.
I do condone political violence and murder. I tried not condoning it for two decades and look where that got us. I especially condone it for people that seem to never have to take responsibility for their crimes.