Vance says he’s prepared to be president ‘If God forbid, a terrible tragedy happens’
JD Vance has said he is ready to take on the presidency “If God forbid, a terrible tragedy happens” to Donald Trump.
In a wide-ranging interview with USA TODAY, the vice president said he was “confident” President Trump would see out the rest of his term, but added he has had a lot of “on-the-job training”.
He also insisted to White House Correspondent Francesca Chambers Trump was in “incredibly good health”, despite recent questions about the president’s physical wellbeing.
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It is very normal to talk about this.
He was specifically asked about the President's health in an interview, and gave a bog standard answer any Veep would say.
People are reading too much into this. Trump's health certainly isn't good, but he's not likely to pop off this week.
It'll be nice if I'm wrong.
A competent politician would redirect into confirming the health and longevity of the president, and not talk about the scenario of his death at all.
"That's what the constitution would ask of me, so yes, obviously. I don't understand why you'd even ask me this."
I gotta wonder why he said that, especially in light of all the rumours surrounding orangeman's health.
Could be Vance is giving America a head's up of things to come.
What are you even saying, there is no reason, this is NORMAL. I too keep declaring regularly to my family that I am ready to step up and inherit my dad's house
and live there instead of my shitty flatshould ThE uNsPeAkAbLe happen. This is to reassure my dear family of my loyalty to my dear old dad and my confidence in his health, obviously, may he live to 150. Normal People Things.::: spoiler 🫠 I don't do this, not least because I am in no shape to take care of a whole-ass house lol :::
Probably just answered the question the reporter asked?
We can only hope that trump does end up dying soon and this comment sparks some massive conspiracy and the right turns on and subsequently eats itself
Until we hear about sofa island.
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Not the president we want, the president we deserve (also, you can't gain access to the country if this pic of him is on your phone)
All the more reason to download multiple copies
They only need Trump to stay alive long enough to consolidate power. Then it’s phase 2. And it doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks as far as “respect” or “like” them. The long term plan is privatize everything completely moving the seat of power away from government altogether. We’re well underway.
They may think that, but it doesn't work that way. They need a singular leader to unite the base. Once that's gone, they'll fracture fast.
What comes next is probably closer to European liberalism. Better social safety net, but capitalism mostly goes on. The US doesn't have a groundswell of support to be any more anti-capitalist than that.
Maybe. Fractured, sure, but I don't think the Republicans collectively will be any less harmful without Trump. Congress and the governors will continue with the Project 2025 agenda under President Vance.
Some of y'all never been in a cult, and it shows.
No. What happens is they all tear each others throats out trying to be on top. Nobody wins. The GOP dies with Trump.
Unless all of the rich megadoners die at the same instance, nothing will fundamentally change. We're in a class war, not a Democrat vs Republican war. Trump may be the man leading the consolidation of power push today, but the reason that movement is working is the environment being ripe for the movement.
Trump dies and the minimum wage doesn't go up, fox news doesn't dissolve, and taxes on the rich sure as hell don't start up. Nothing fundamentally changes, and with the state of all the fundamental and important agencies worsened and delegitimized things probably worsen significantly for those orgs and their services in the short term while power is redistributed, reconsolidated, and resolidified.
Trump dying would likely just be the temporary slow down of the currently inevitable decline. You're right to say things get more chaotic and there is a large opportunity for things to improve or change - but believing the GOP disappears, and therefore we enter into a utopia, seems to ignore the underlying cause for their existence in the first place. The rich and powerful want to remain rich and powerful, and ideally become more so, at the expense of everyone else so they fund systems that further those goals.
Ummm, have you been in a cult?
Jehovah's Witnesses
Damn.
My man
This is the US.
They'll politely forget and go back to pretending they're the greatest nation in the world.
Yeah, it'd require him to name a successor that's competent. A thing that will never happen. Trump has to be the smartest in the room, you think room temperature idiots like that can stop the cataclysm?
Agreed. This isnt a collective conservative front like the Tea Party. This is worship of a singular figure head. Once he's dead it'll crumble
That really depends on how deep the rest of them have gotten their claws into the controls
Maybe Trump won the election fair and square but do you think they won’t try to rig for JD Vance? With all the other shit they’re doing grabbing the headlines, what kind of “boring” administrative shit have they fucked with that the press is too busy to even cover?
Ahhh, but you forget two things.
One, cults usually outlive their founders, even cults of personality.
Two, Unitary Executive Theory. The Trump admin has been working overtime to try and figure out ways to rule by decree, and I think they're absolutely willing to Hail Mary with Vance. If Trump dies, I can see them trying to quite literally just decree laws and dare the various, rapidly dwindling levers of power to stop them.
Nope, they don't outlive their founders much. The few that do are exceptions.
There are cults of personality and cults of idea. Every once in a while, a cult of personality can outlive its founder by turning into a cult of idea. Mormons and Scientology are examples. This is hard to pull off, though. Most end up more like the Oneida cult, where its founder fled the country and it fell apart almost immediately.
The cult I was in, Jehovah's Witnesses, was never really a cult of personality (IMO). Russell didn't exercise particularly strict control over the group to begin with. Rutherford clamped down, causing a few splinter groups (a few of which are still out there). He turned it into a cult of ideas, and it outlived him without much issue.
As for unitary executive theory, it's irrelevant. It only works for Trump because the congressional GOP doesn't do anything against him. There is strong, aggressive debate among themselves, though. They could barely agree on a Speaker. Vance would weigh into it without the benefit of a cult of personality behind him.
I have a hope that the scramble for power will break the machine, but not much.
They will become "The Fractured But Whole"
If you spent half as much time working to better yourself instead of crazy conspiracy theories about Trump, your life will become a lot better.
Something tells me you’re the one struggling with quality of life my friend. The world doesn’t have to be one big fight.
But if you insist. It’s well documented that many of the largest donors to the MAGA movement advocate for absolute privatization and deregulation across the board. They don’t advocate for democracy (representative or otherwise) but rather see it as inherently counter intuitive to economic progress. All you have to do is listen to them speak and read any of their work.
Also, by “better yourself” I imagine you mean “fit as a cog within capitalism”, which friend, you have stepped into the wrong realm for that arguement. I noticed you used “lib” or “liberal” and “blue haired piercing etc” in another of your comments— most of us reject liberals as too far right or centrist and those remarks are just inflammatory nonsense.
I fear you’ve fallen into the deep end when you’re better equipped for the kiddie pool. Good luck.
Guys I’m starting to think something tragic has or is about to happen…
What part would be tragic?
Going from raging pantshitter pedophile to a dedicated P2025 patsy.
I'll take the patsy with no charisma.
But he's a patsy who has not been president before meaning it could be another eight fucking years of this bullshit without any fight from the American public
Eight is hopeful. They're trying hard to rig those elections and expand their terms.
That Vance would become president.
All the alcohol we would be drinking.
TRUMP IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD shout it from the rooftops!
Trump is dead, or going to be very soon, isn't he?
What beer should I buy to celebrate?
Enjoy the very momentary joy of trumps death when it happens.
If it happens in this term, you'll find out exactly what Vance is.
The Queen mean girl of the Nazi techright.
They will need 24 hour security to keep people from pissing on his grave. It won't be enough though.
I wonder what song will start trending when the news breaks out, maybe I should start making a Playlist
Ding dong.
Margaret Thatcher is dead
Six Schlitzes... or whatever's free.
A gun, maybe?
absolutely, will need to 'protect' yourself from right wing nutjobs
Well I am in Canada, and nation with only 30+ firearms per 100 people. Maybe... maybe... maybe...
I dont think so.
Maybe if he's had a stroke or something, it might take them a few days to figure out the prognosis and decide what to do.
They would already have a plan in place for his death and would implement immediately if that happened.
Sadly he isn't. I drank the beer i bought in disappointment and not celebration. He showed up for another golf game recently and didn't seem any different. He is in terrible health no doubt and JD Vance would not say that he is ready to step up as president if nothing was the matter.
When Trump dies, no matter how, it will cause a fracture in the MAGA movement. The only reason why Trump is tolerated is not because of any intelligence or expertise, but he is absolutely able to command a hardcore fanatical base. Even Steve Bannon said that. They simply dont have a replacement for someone as charismatic as him.
I'd rather have Kilkenny. It is a true Irish beer that is owned by Irish people, and I support the Irish and their support of Palestinians.
While I also admire the Irish support of Palestinians not being mass-murdered, and despise the Guinness family, I'll have a nice Belgian monk beer, or three. Trappiste Rochefort 10 is a good choice, but there are many others.
Well it seems that Trump is not dead... at least for now. There is no saying he won't be dead soon, given his clearly failing health. Might as well drink to the fact that they at least hinted strongly that he is not long for this world. They can stop an assassin's bullets, but not mother nature's course.
Also Kudos on your fine taste in beer.
A stout. Strong and sweet.
Before i got laid off leadership said everything is fine. I didn't believe it then and this is way more obvious.
To be fair he did not say that unprompted. A journalist specifically asked him if he felt ready to take the president's place should something happen. And it is downright misleading from the article writer's part to not mention that detail.
Yep, agree. I also think Vance would push him overboard for the throne though
By now every single person who is left in Trump's entourage are sycophants motivated purely by personal gain. Vance isn't the only one who would.
Lol they gonna kill taco
Pretty sure Vance isn't planning to kill him until after January 20, 2027.
But Trump's dementia causes him to go on stupid side quests. Vance is a yes man. He'll finish Project 2025.
Usha Vance is not an immigrant. She is the wrong color though.
To MAGA crowd the latter dictates the former, legal realities be damned.
You’re not wrong
I’ll respond. Your statement both implies and assumes an ignorance that was not even slightly represented in my comment. Your words are condescending and arrogant, with zero justification for being so.
Let us know how that approach works out for you in life.
Thus, the You Won't Have To Vote Again retoric.
Melania is white, usha is brown, that's all they need to know
Peter Thiel cares about him, who owns Palantir and wants to turn the world into a techno feudalist surveillance state
https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-libertarian-tech-titan-peter-thiel-helped-make-jd-vance-the-republican-kingmakers-influence-is-growing-261856
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
He’s going to kill Trump just like how he killed the pope
Maybe Vance isnt all bad
You take that back
lol no, get learnt. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dollop-with-dave-anthony-and-gareth-reynolds/id643055307?i=1000668989346
No one ever asks if he took care of the couches needs first.
He can't wait to fuck those lovely couches in the oval office. Right now Donnie won't let him.
Because everyone else is a hardcore alcoholic...
If Trump has the most energy out of all his staff. That's not a good thing for trump, it's a bad thing for his staff.
Same bullshit as when Biden was in office, like, I'm pretty sure they were saying the exact same thing when he was in office.
The man saying this has NEVER worked a labor job, saying it about a man who has never SEEN laborers. Trust none of what he says, for he has never walked a minute in your shoes.
I mean. He was a marine.
He knows what hard work looks like, he's just a lying asshole.
“enlisted in the United States Marine Corps,[15] serving as a military journalist with the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing.[16] During his four years of service, he was deployed to the Iraq War in 2005 for six months in a non-combat role, writing articles and taking photographs” - Wiki
They still go thru normal bootcamp and training...
There's not many "easy" jobs in the marines
no different than the final days of Stalin, Tito or Franco.
it doesn't really help when he spends half his time golfing tho
"If God forbid" *fingers crossed* "a terrible tragedy happens" ...
Maybe a terrible tragedy should happen to the couch fucking popekiller.
* fingers crossed *
"If Air Force One, carrying Mr. Trump were struck by a missile and blown up, that would be a tragedy."
"Fantastic," exclaims Vance, "that's right. And can you tell me WHY that would be a TRAGEDY?"
"Well," says the boy, "because it wouldn't be an accident, and it certainly wouldn't be a great loss."
Imagine all the conspiracy theories from the maga crowd if Trump were to die.
Q is kill
no
Deep cut
The only tragedies would be that Trump would have escaped prison and Vance would be President.
He’s going to pope trump
Couchfucker is gonna use the 5-point palm exploding heart technique on Chump.
Well it worked on the pope
Vance could use some more grooming.
Time to roll out the technofascism and ultra surveillance
The best bet here is probably to watch melania. I doubt shell be able to contain herself. Finally free amd while probably not mega rich after shit all settles. She probably wont have to worry about amything again.
She's his third wife, the pre-nup is probably ironclad.
That's for divorce, not death right?
We should watch for Melania and the trump kids visiting trump’s lawyers (to ask about his will)
Already have his headstone picked out:
He's here to fuck couches and chew bubble gum and he's all out of bubble gum.
They're going to need to wrap up the furniture in the oval office like it's moving day.
He already isnt allowed within 500 feet of Ikea...
isnt Vance the guy who was asking for help/guidance on poisons?
No one will listen to that weird creep if trump dies. Things would be way more chaotic under vance.
Impeachment doesn't sound like a terrible tragedy to me, but it's unlikely either way.
“I’m not saying to kill him, but if you want to kill him—I’m ready for him to be dead”
« I just realized that I’m a benche warmer, I will never be revalent as long as he will be alive »
Yeah, right. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if JD Vance has is eye on the oval office. Remember, he was an adamant anti-Trumper at one point. Sure, he ended up caving and kissing the ring, but maybe that was just a ruse. Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump didn't make it all the way to the end of his term and Vance ends up being sworn in as president. That might be what some people have wanted all along.
He already killed the Pope, he could kill again...
He's all in with Peter Thiel. It is definitely the plan.
"terrible tragedy" ...yeah
Yeah, that's a weird way to spell "New National Holiday".
I can only get so erect. Realizing that this guy would be the Chevy Chase of Presidents and regime change in visual only, I'll take it.
It'll look like silver when he's had his way with it.
I think the color is less important than you think, it's more about the crevices.
I seriously hope they don't announce his death on labor day and then rename labor day to fasict-pedophile-rapist day
If it means he’s dead, then it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make
he's finally gonna kill him
Can his baby face with his baby mouth fit Putin's dick? Putin's is very use to Trumps mouth right now and he might not be able to nut with his baby mouth.
Will the loser take more vacations and flood the Ohio River Valley?
It wouldn’t be a tragedy and it wouldn’t be terrible. I am confident it will be a worldwide holiday.
“Don’t you think he looks tired?”
So something terrible must happen to both at the same time. Noted.
Then Mike "I-like-my-son-to-know-when-I-cum" Johnson will be in charge.
Translation: JD has selected a window
EDIT: Plot twist: the window is the roof
Air Force one stairs
God we are praying for a good outcome. /s
It's "when", and would be anything but a tragedy.
How about when a wonderful "tragedy" happens?
Yeah, anything Vance says is about the most non-information a statement can be. The only thing to conclude from it is "Vance talked".
"god forbid" more like "hope he hurries up". And also "why not make it a combo meal"
Sounds like something a vp who's poisoning the president would say
Ok, but what about if Trump dies?
Let's hope it's nothing trivial.
I wonder who do americans think is the worst of them.
Couches everywhere should shudder in horror.
Expect the Supreme Court to overturn Couches v. Vance.
It's an election season so we should let the states decide who takes the seat. /S
Did 47 86 it?
Are we better off with Trump as the useful idiot? I am not sure if Vance could do even more damage.
Trump is the cult of personality, though, Vance is a cold fish. Less people like him than liked Pence and it's all a popularity game on that side now.
Reminds me a lot of Nick Offerman in Civil War
Who is that?
I don't think the country is ready for it. Think about it. If he died tomorrow would you have enough alcohol for the celebrations? I think not.
wink
This would be a good thing. He doesn't have the cult of personality that Trump has. This would hopefully allow some sanity to come back into US politics.