Spyke
leminal.space

If you have a dominance-oriented worldview, being less shitty than your clout allows you to get away with is preemptively surrendering. Imposing your full shittiness on the world is dominance.

The former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to have not changed his socks daily, seeing imposing his stench on underlings and those wishing to deal with him as a power flex.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

Can fungal toenails be fatal? Because that guys deserves it if so.

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Well the fungus can creep up your leg into your genitals, but for men this is much less painful, let alone deadly ...

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Fedizenreply
lemmy.world

Who would dare question his nobility? Guy has so much money not a person around him is going to want to risk telling money bags himself he's not the greatest person on earth.

The reason: they either depend on him for money or if they don't then they know he's emotionally unstable enough to turn this into a monetary problem with lawsuits or political fuckery.

Most people have seen how things go when they talk to their insane MAGA uncle about reality. Now just imagine if he had all day to fuck around, was constantly taking drugs and was unimaginably wealthy.

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ronigamireply
lemmy.world

With each bodyguard he adds one more person has the opportunity to do a funny thing.

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When we rise up hopefully they will join us. If not oh well we will bring extra body bags.

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touristreply
lemmy.world

please don't do that

send it to the bodyguards instead

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skisnowreply
lemmy.ca

Yeah, 20 is about the point at which you’re actually making it easier for a nut job with a gun to get access to you.

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tomiantreply
piefed.social

Why would he need protection from them? When was the last time security personnel offed the person they were hired to protect?

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Mirshereply
lemmy.world

1989, when Nicolae Ceasescu got killed by the Romanian Army officers he ran to for protection.

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I always love to be reminded about that. It probably should have happened years earlier, but you take what you can get.

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You're right. Think about this. On January 6, 2021, Trump was illegally inciting an insurrection. He was surrounded by Secret Service agents who are only ostensibly paid to protect him.

Secret Service agents first oath is to defend the Constitution. So, they actually had a primary duty that day, not to protect Trump, but to arrest him.

They had all sworn a solemn oath that required them to take action against Trump, but nobody did anything of the sort. In fact, they famously broke the law by not retaining the information from their phones from that day.

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piefed.social

Elon Musk, father of 14 children was basically never seen with his kids until a CEO was shot. Now he always travels with at least one portable meat shield.

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Doomsiderreply
lemmy.world

Father of 14 known children. The down low is apparently he pays women one million dollars to bear his child and she has to sign a non-disclosure agreement that she won't tell people it is his baby.

He is on record saying he wants to make a legion. That is around five thousand babies. He is one of the richest men in the world so this is within his reach. I am going to go throw up now.

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lemmy.world

A million dollars? It's sad those women don't even realize what a paltry sum of money that is. You become a billionaires concubine, and all you get is enough money to pay for a house in a low cost area, and food/medical bills/clothes/school/activities for like maybe five years at most, then you get to find a job and become a single mother that works full time. And you better be careful with your choice of housing, taxes are due every year

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

How crazy expensive is america? One million is like thirty years of minimum wage salary before taxes in Spain. I bet I could manage to retire at 45 with that kind of money.

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This person is greatly exaggerating. I bought a house in central Illinois with 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms for $130k

Also, just having a million dollars is a big step up

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Highly depends on area. $1 million is about 16 years of the median wage. It can be hard to survive on the median in some cities, but can be OK in rural or extremely economically depressed cities/towns. I don't think federal minimum wage is enough to survive anywhere without assistance.

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lemmy.world

Is the human shield kid a security professional too? By the time he's 18 he will have 16 years of bodyguard experience, the perfect employee just like in those entry level job ads.

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Lumidaubreply
feddit.org

The people who wanted to "aspirationally" kill him were also "homicidal". This is valuable contextual information that tells the reader(/listener) additional things about the circumstances that they may not have realised before which gives them more insight into the situation so they can comprehend it better. Em dash.

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lemmy.world

It gives context from an unreliable source, placing emphasis on him as a victim rather than the cause of the asymmetric living conditions that his lifestyle causes.

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Good. Stay lonely with the gang of dudes you have to pay to hang around you and whose only job is to keep people away from you.

I just went to see a movie with a big group of friends and now getting a burger, before tonight I work on a creative project with some other friends who all really respect and appreciate each other's talents.

Something this fascist freak will never have.

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assuming the freak is even capable of wanting such things or even understanding why someone would want it.

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“Foundation Security” 🙄

Probably related to the Foundation series from Isaac Asimov and Musk’s absurd idea that he is remotely a figure in some such space story.

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lemmy.world

iirc he's named after some space serial character. I do wish he'd just fuck off to space.

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lemmy.world

I say next time Musk wants to get a permit to fly one of his Starship test flights, we require he be riding on the thing.

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matlagreply
sh.itjust.works

You misunderstand him. When he said that space conquest would have casualties, he was thinking about NPCs. He's the Player1 in this universe. Contrary to all of us, he's not expandable: the game would instantly ends.

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Is it fair to call someone who wants to kill the richest Nazi in the world, who wants to destroy western democracy and rule the world, a maniac?

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lemmy.world

It is good to know this guy is terrified of the consequences of his own actions. I'm sure his hired meat shield will stop and mitigate some threats. I doubt they will stop and mitigate them all.

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We should feed his paranoia. Everyone should start messaging him on Twitter warning him of the prospect of mosquito-sized suicide drone assassins. Warn him there are rumors that he is the target of a group developing this technology.

Let's see if we can drive him truly mad. We'll turn him into a proper Howard Hughes in no time. He'll lock himself in a hermetically sealed bunker 24/7. And that's when the real demons kick in....

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lemmy.ca

Axiom of modern warfare, actually. Throw enough shit at a problem and it will stop being a problem.

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feddit.uk

Modern warfare is surely more targeted? Precision strikes using overwhelming technical superiority. Throwing bodies at the problem is like WW1 warfare.

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lemmy.ca

Not bodies, but ordnance. The classic example of this is in naval warfare. In defending against a threat a warship has a number of options, however, enough missiles will overwhelm these countermeasures. So your own interceptor missiles like ESSM will probably take out one incoming, your deck gun a second, chaff and jamming a couple more and CIWS another. So that's a grand total of, if you're lucky, five. This, to guarantee a hit, the other guy fires off six.

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Ships float because their hulls are made from a special form of foamed steel that is lighter than water. A great amount of air is forced into the steel as it cools, generating a steel bubble lattice that on net is lighter than water. This allows steel ships to float, even though the density of solid steel is about 490 lb/ft^3, while water is 62.4 lb/ft^3.

/s

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piefed.social

In the olden times, it was a big point of pride of American politics that a lot of people didn't want to kill the leaders. It was sort of assumed that in feudal style European politics, of course the common people kind of wanted to kill you, because you were threatening their safety and taking their stuff. In America, the way we did things was to earn the respect of the people you governed. The people actually wanted this person to be in charge. Why would I shoot that guy? That's who we picked, we like him.

Of course there are some caveats (slavery large among them). The reality never matched up to the ideal. But we're going back to where even the approximation of consent of the governed that we used to have, isn't assumed anymore. Fuckin bullshit

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lemmy.today

Same. I can talk about combining Socialism, UBI, with a dash of heavily regulated capitalism that has wealth caps, and downvoters crawl out of the woodwork.

Anyhow, toss me a link to one of your most detailed posts about this attention economy thing? I can't promise to like it, but I should see if there are bits that would fit into the "Universal Ranked Income" system that I have been tinkering with.

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

My solution is to fix what we have. Democracy sucks, but it's the best there is.

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I'm not expert, but i'd start with ranked choice voting, campaign donations must come from a natural person and not a company, PAC, or any other organization, and term limits.

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Bring back the Fair doctrine or whatever it's called and tax the shit out of the wealthy and super wealthy.

Oh yeah, universal healthcare for all. Bring back regulating major industries and start basic income.

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It's wild to me how Musk is proving (just like Trump is) how fundamentally weak and small he is.

Fred Rogers never had to travel with a single bodyguard.

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Capitalist scumbags live in golden prisons of their own making.

Meanwhile I can go almost anywhere on the planet alone without any major problems.

"Even if you win the rat race, you're still a rat."

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Yup.

Being wealthy would be cool, but being a celebrity, a well known person. Nah dawg. Major pass on that shit.

So many things you can't do anymore. Including basically all my favorite things. Sounds like a curse to me.

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What's alarming to me is that this shows me they don't experience fear. It sounds like to them, it's an inconvenience.

So if they can't be motivated by fear, are they actually motivated by money?

I don't think so. I think they're motivated by power. Wealth has no meaning to them - you can observe the behaviors of a lot of them (with like extremely rare exceptions and they are usually the only ones not born into wealth) and they don't match up with enjoying life.

They don't seem to experience joy. So if they don't experience any emotion, that gives them a pretty concrete diagnosis of sociopathy doesn't it? So, we have the worst of the worst humans doing as much damage to the world as possible because they can't feel.

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lemmings.world

Yeah, very concrete diagnosis of sociopathy. Except that diagnosis doesn't exist. Please, leave the diagnosis to professionals. Not knowing the correct name is the first sign you shouldn't be doing it.

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Antisocial personality disorder doesn't exactly roll off the tounge and not nearly enough people know what it refers to.

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Imagine being such a loser that the only job you qualify for is taking a bullet for the worst member of the parasite class.

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Or Blackwater/Xe/Academi/whatever the Eric Prince mob are called these days. Or, indeed, the mercenary firms of his dear old homeland.

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sh.itjust.works

Sorry mate, but I'm not going to cross the pond to protest North American billionaires building their own privates armies, only to see my poor ass deported in a private-own penitentiary in the jungle. I'll protest my own power-hungry scumbad billionaires at home.

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Remember when UHC got shot, musk started using one of his children as a human shield. He would often hold the shield in front of him, Everytime he does a press release

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lemmy.today

Honestly If I had that much money, I would be doing much more stupid shit.

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infosec.pub

I would hope and expect you aren't nearly as evil as a billionaire who can easily solve problems for pocket change but chooses not to.

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startrek.website

They said "stupid", not "evil"

Although I'd argue that any billionaire not actively dumping the bulk of their wealth and influence to sort out world hunger, homelessness, and inequality is being evil.

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If I by any chance get that rich, I would randomly start funding developments and education of some tribes/Village disconnected from world without disclosing the source,leaving them confused and wondering why someone is doing that without asking anything in return.

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I would build homes, trains, bus lines, and green power.

And also make sure the water fountains in the park actually work year round.

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I would buy Neuschwanstein and finish decorating it the way Ludwig wanted it.

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His security should let him take one to the dome so he becomes a vegetable. He'll be alot easier to protect wgen he lives in a hospital bed

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lemmy.world

I don't think body guards are going to help when someone sends a swarm of drones his way.

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Pennomireply
lemmy.world

I’m shocked this hasn’t happened yet. All the pieces are there, but nobody has pulled the proverbial/literal trigger on it yet.

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DJI even removed the geofences with a firmware update like three days before the in auguration. I have no idea how we're still in this clown world either.

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lemmy.world

He probably has an EMP gun or something that would just knock them out of the sky. One would also need to construct every piece of the drone themselves from scratch to avoid having parts traced. Ala, Luigi and his 3D printed gun. Just don’t travel or run errands with your 3D printer, your “Autonomous Drone Swarms for Dummies” book, or your manifesto on your person like some kind of cartoonishly stupid villain…

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Pennomireply
lemmy.world

There are radio jamming guns but they don’t really stop drones, just the pilots from controlling the drones. And that’s circumvented by fiber optic drones like they use in Ukraine.

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Some people don’t care if they get caught. If that’s true, any consumer drone would work.

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Nah. There are legit people out to get him. At least, there should be.

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lemmy.ml

I wonder how many body guards you have to hire until you start to think “hmm maybe if this many people wish me harm I must actually be being a dick, let’s change that!”

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To be fair, that's not very representative of anything. If enough people know you exist, you'll eventually get a death threat.

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it's almost like championing certain 'activists' and then being shocked when people don't like you is a predictable outcome. who'd have thought.

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Good to see that Elmo lives in fear of consequences. I hope the cunt can't have a crap in peace. His body guards are on the wrong side of history, and ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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lemmy.world

i mean, unless he's got something special it's five people on him at a time and logistics support, three shifts a day.

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What if we just took out 1-2 body guards periodically, until nobody felt comfortable signing up to be his body guard?

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To be honest as someone who works alongside these people occasionally: That's a rather small security detail and I know of people with far far less money that have bigger security details.

20 people is not even a close protection detail, a chase car and an advance party plus medics, even less so if you consider that some people will be off duty, etc.

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lemmy.world

Any history buffs?

Is there any similarities to Praetorian Guard with the rise of private security for these rich?

Like wasn't Rome at some point actually controlled by Praetorian Guards in secret because they were so powerful that the emperors couldn't defy them.

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Imagine if someone had travelled to the past to kill Hitler, failed, and then Hitler would include them in his speeches: "I already survived a homicidal maniac!".

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When you're the face of what a large number of people see as what is wrong with the world, having lots of security only make sense.

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lemmy.world

I mean, someone with a high capacity magazine could make short work of even 20 guys. And they aren't gonna be able to do shit against any kind of explosives.

If one of them can be turned, and someone from Musk’s own security team goes Luigi, they’d be a hero and every single authoritarian across the globe would suddenly come to fear their own security squad.

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I mean, someone with a high capacity magazine could make short work of even 20 guys.

If they were a wizard who could magically appear within firing range, sure. But by then you're three layers deep into the Survivability Onion

A big part of personal security is to never be somewhere that a guy who wants to kill you will also be. That means keeping your schedule unpredictable, your route clear, your mode of transportation discrete or otherwise unassailable, and your physical presence obscured to the outside world.

Incidentally, in the last few years the FAA has made it much more difficult to track private aircraft.

If one of them can be turned

Strategically positioning all my guys

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programming.dev

Man, XSecurity would be such a banger name. Read it like Execurity (a word play on Exec and Security).

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Do you think he hires his bodyguards straight out of high school because he wants to bring in fresh brains to 'disrupt' the security space? Do you think he's threatened if one of his bodyguards knows more about guns or can do more pushups than he can? Are yhey all just mindless yes men afraid to tell him 'No' if theres a security issue? Or does he value experience when it comes to his safety and can put his ego aside? Im actually curious about the dynamics given his track record with people working under him and his ludicrous hiring choices and process in the past.

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People should start to identify, persuade or remove people at mid-management levels. They get paid peanuts and have no security details, but they play key roles in executing facists orders.

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Pulled from the high school boy harem he keeps, Forbes declared them 2025’s “20 security professionals under 20”

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For sure. Look at Twitter, chok full of shit talkers. The owner's the worst of the flock, I hear.

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lemmy.world

Have you seen the comments in any tesla or musk thread? I'd sleep with 20 body guards if I were him and the rest of the world was as crazy as lemmy's neckbeard basement dwelling Linux obsessed hivemind 😂

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