Has anyone else noticed how dead most bars/clubs are now?
I remember just a few months ago bars and clubs being super packed and now there's hardly anybody at them. What's going on?
Edit: I'm in the Los Angeles area
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Nobody has money to burn.
Or snort.
Or boof
More of a busket scoofer myself
I mean, I could go to a bar and get a $10 drink.
Or, I could have a whole-ass $11 bottle of wine, at home, in the quiet, with my dogs and a damn good book.
...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?
The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.
Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.
Obviously from the US because they think every human is from the US.
Americans legit think the internet ends at their borders. Even relatively modern places like Bluesky are so infuriating for not understanding how internet works.
Many, many years ago, Pizza Hut announced ordering pizza online if one of their restaurants is within a certain range. We checked, we were in range, and ordered our pizzas.
Guess what? No pizza. We sent a mail, and we got a totally confused answer. Yes, that offer was for US based orders only (no mentioning of this on the web site, we had checked!). How the heck could we have internet outside the US? Our answer, that the web was actually developed in Europe confused him even more.
We got the offer that they would send us the order free of charge once they expanded the service to our place. So far, no pizza, even though they offer this service for a few years now...
Sometimes I only find out that something only gets delivered to the US when I get to the checkout stage where you enter the adress and there is no option for countries.
It's not that hard to put this information on your website.
Or they only offer payment through PayPal, which I don't do. But yes, putting this on the web site quite early would not hurt,
Bloody US Defaultism 😒
Yeah they be from somewhere outside the united states like Hawaii
Or New Mexico.
Or New Vegas.
Ever since some courier showed up a few of the casinos are basically empty. Makes you wish for a Nuclear Winter.
Might be Skegvegas…
Sooooo fucking on point. If you arent a sports fan in my area you would be so curious of the same question depending on time of year or success of season. Super anecdotal but just 1 example of tons and tons of variables that effect the bar/restaurant/hospitality industry
Los Angeles area
Lmfao I was hoping so much it would be not only a major US city but one of the largest culturally.
Internet never lets me down
You're welcome
Nailed it.
Trump economy. Enough said
Trump put a 100% tariff on fun.
More a tariff on life itself.
I've been reading this for the past 20 years online, and yet not a single fucking movement has done anything within my life to change this. And im sick of reading this, becuase so far no one wants to do anything about it.
You're preaching to the choir here.
Ive been patiently waiting for anyone to make a plan. Ive been told to WAKE UP SHEEPLE many times, but never once given any clue on what to do once awake.
Wish I could go back to sleep for a bit tbh
thats why vegas/reno is also dead from what ive read on reddit(people are asking why it so dead). besides the tariffs/and detention of tourists which also is one primary reason. vegas is a failing city for quite a number of years already. losing out to ONLINE gaming, and sports isnt going to save the city if nobody is going there.
The economy was due for a recession. It just happened to be that Trump has done a lot of things to make it worse.
It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.
Middle class is still working class.
Stop doing this... its people vs the ultra wealthy... unless your less than 100 people your all the fucking same... they want people to feel divided, we are not... its rich assholes who are so morrally corupt and evil vs the rest of us...
We really are just one agreement away from rolling these fuckers
I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.
not just ice, but border/custom detainment, requiring review of your phone of any anti-trump, anti-zionist material, which already deter tourist, plus canadians dont like trump constant messaging of invading thier country.
That's true, international tourism is down across the country, not just domestic tourism.
People are terrified.
Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they're already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly
Oh, plus tourism is basically over
All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad
And we're still in the good times. My therapist asks me why my scores for happy/hopefulness are low and the anxiety/depression scores are high every week, and I can't help but gesture wildly at the state of the world.
Fucking figures that I'd get 2008'd again right as I start getting my life together.
Shock Doctrine, or "disaster capitalism". Naomi Klein.
This is capitalism operating as normal, too. It's always in crisis, and it's up to regular working people to bail it out.
Man I feel you. I started therapy a little over a year ago and mental health has improved a thousand fold, but I feel like it's too late and the country is only a few years away from falling completely.
It's not just money. There's very real fear as well, it's both
just look at vegas/reno, dead city, actually dying before trump came in, he just accelerated it, plus state schools in west coast was suffering enrollment problems for the whole pandemic as well(prior to trump), last article i read is the schools are so desperate they have becoming offering easy admissions to the schools to hs students if they complete minimum amount of these courses, i dont know how long this will last, from what ive gathered almost everyone who was in school during the pandemic had really negative experience(dint learn much) after graduating. and people's futures are uncertain as the schools arnt offering much in career development.
csu system felt like it was on the verge of collapse; i think only a few schools were not suffering severely.
UC doesnt seem to suffer the same effect though, at least not yet.
All colleges went through the millennial wave, so there are fewer American college aged students to teach. It wouldn't be that big of a problem, but Trump's immigration policy is killing foreign enrollment, which is going to collapse a major revenue stream for universities.
Schools don't make money on domestic students, so a drop in domestic enrollment isn't a major issue as long as foreign enrollment and research stays constant.
All of them in the USA.
No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.
Iirc, in the US (assumed due to "$"), any establishment that serves food or drink is required to provide free tap water.
Also, apply inflation to the fact that bars, and especially clubs, have always been expensive.
Also, "clubs are full of assholes" has been a meme since at least the 80s.
You're mostly right, laws don't exist anymore though and when they did, there are plenty of carve outs for businesses.
I think that's fairly common but not legally required, at least on a federal level.
I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?
Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.
now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.
so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.
Down here in Pittsburgh I can still pay $2-4 for a beer, and smoke inside.
Another reason bar and club scenes have died.
Can't tell if you're for or against it.
I don't even smoke but I don't mind it. Lets me know where the cheap dives are and the vibe is better.
When they made it illegal to smoke it pubs and clubs in the UK, it did a right number on that industry.
The first few months I was whining about government overreach. Since then I have come to realize what a true boon to humanity the ban really was.
Now I can't even fathom how anyone in their right mind would think smoking inside is a reasonable thing to do.
Edit: also, yeah, people stopped going to bars and drinking after the ban?? LOOL
Too fucking expensive.
And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.
Do you live in a college town?
I walk past a couple bars a lot and they seem to have the same amount of people. All the outside tables had folks last night.
I'm not going to bars because I'm unemployed. Like I say, if capital wants me to spend money they can give me some, first.
I was at a packed one last night for my friends that were DJing. I didn’t drink there though to save money
Fewer tourists from other nations would be a contributing factor. ICE in general may be more. Perhaps economy isn't as great as our Fuhrer wants us to think.
Tourism would be a thing, yeah.
Who in their right minds would go visit the US, knowing full well you might end up in a torture prison for a year just because you wanted to have a week of fun in the US?
In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there's a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.
You gotta watch out for that dangerous black ice, it’s transparent and sneaky
That black ice creeping into our neighborhoods, making the streets unsafe!
bars and clubs run on disposable income.
I think the effects of tariffs and unemployment and everything are starting to be felt.
I've seen a small decline in busy days at local bars or restaurants. I also live near areas that depend on summer tourism, and that is way down.
Thing is, as that goes down, so do the revenues/employees. As that happens, places close or cut employees.
People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.
Believable, this is why I pirate.
Let those who can pay, pay. For the rest of us, there's creative social equalization. I consider it reverse tax on full fledged capitalist dystopia.
Which movies?
Minecraft and the Smurfs
How were they?
Minecraft was okay, haven't seen the Smurfs
Blocky and blue.
Didn't even know there was another Smurfs one.
Superman and Fantastic 4
im hearing these 2 arnt doing so well in the box office, despite the massive hype. FANTASTIC 4 seems like the 2015 one, lol.
Ah. Fair enough. The last big budget film I saw in theaters was endgame. During the late stage of it's original run.
I think I saw a Neil Breen movie in one since.
How big are these families? Partner, step daughter, and I recently went a three tickets, three drinks, and three snacks was less than fifty quid.
Quid… not sure what they charge for movies over there but here in the states it’s $50 per person for a full ride. Take a regular family with 2 adults and 2 kids, $50 each. That’s where I got the number.
The climbing gym is fucking packed though
that would be different from a BAR /club area, where people go to pickup other people.
of course they are all caught in the traffic jam at the Gotthard tunnel
No one wants some 20 year old jackass taping them for TikTok clout.
OP is asking about a change they noticed in the last few months. This has not changed in the last few months.
I just read some article about how Germany has supposedly been experiencing a decline in the club scene for some years, and how there's a word for it.
kagi
Not the article I was thinking of, but the word is clubsterben.
https://www.dw.com/en/is-berlin-in-a-club-death-spiral/a-70341859
I'm a Kagi user and you still had me thinking that the German word was "kagi" for a moment there
Society is in a "wealth concentration" spiral.
I haven't noticed anything in particular, which country are you talking about?
Not in my experience, living and clubbing, in São Paulo. Can't really compare with pass years, since I'm being living here just for two years, but all the parties I go are really packed.
Unfair to compare Sao Paulo, brother
In addition to the economy thing that everyone else has already pointed out (and is totally valid)
I think it's worth pointing out that in the northern hemisphere it's summer right now, so if that's where you're located there's a lot of people going on vacations and having parties right now.
My social circles aren't exactly rolling in it, but at any given time over the summer, there's still at least a couple people I know are the beach, camping, having a BBQ or bonfire, or hanging out at a pool somewhere on their downtime when they might have been at a bar or something otherwise.
If you live in a touristy area, yeah, that's the economy, bars should be booming there.
I remember a couple years ago on a whim a couple of friends and I decided to go to a bar that's usually packed with a line well out the door of people waiting to get it. But it just happened to be a holiday weekend so lots of people had other plans, and we got in no problem.
Probably depends on the area, but I’m in a high COL work-focused one and I’ve been noticing people going on their phones more these days. Even the bartenders. It’s kinda sad.
Yeah, man, I get the feeling you're talking about. There's stuff to talk about, but no one wants to talk about it anymore. But it's hard not to think about that shit though...
Ice
Going to a club sounds beyond exhausting
Just stay in the dark with sun glasses swaying lightly and will be able to go all night long
There’s an obvious answer here if you live in a College town/city.
Yeah, this is the obvious answer. OP lives in a city with one or more colleges. They went out in mid May, when all the students were finishing finals. Then they went out last night in July, when all the students are working summer jobs or internships or are back home.
I've noticed that general traffic in the Central Florida area, where traffic is usually among the very worst on the entire East Coast, has been much lighter lately.
We know that cops are profiling people, and pulling over Hispanics for false reasons, so my speculation is that people are staying off the roads except when absolutely necessary.
I also believe that Hispanic parents are telling their kids to stay in the house with their friends, and not go out and drive around. Remember when you were a teen, and would drive all day because at least you were out of the house and away from the parents? If those kids get in some trouble, it could easily find its way back to the parents, and the next thing you know, the entire family is on its way back to Honduras. So parents are warning their kids of the serious consequences of even a minor issue.
I think a lot of people are laying low.
Too expensive, too many handsy douchebags, just not fun.
bars n clubs are lit here in the american south
At least link to the one that shows his performance
https://youtu.be/y7im5LT09a0
God I love this so much. I show it to anyone when I say I hate country and they ask why.
Tin roof, rusted!
Could be finals season for summer students if you live near a university.
west coast practically has very little bar/dating scene, and the colleges here doesnt seem to be into it at all, at best its a commuter sort of area anyways.
Covid surge this summer
The stuff I've been going to in the SF Bay Area has been pretty lit lately.
Tried to go to an event at my favorite bar last week and it was sold out, so I can't confirm the issue.
Not really no. The ones I go to are busy as ever.
No, but I only go to bars for events. Here where I live the bars I go to are packed