I don't think it's restricted to under 35 and on the internet. I know a 40 something year old that says shit like "my wife and I are so independent and good with our money, we don't get any handouts. The only gift we get is that her parents pay off our credit cards every Christmas" unironically.
Lol, fair enough. It's basically impossible nowadays to be comfortable without a little help, even if it's just systemic in nature.
I'm in my mid-late 30s and doing really well compared to most of the people in my age bracket mostly out of dumb luck and because my dad was in the military.
During the last housing market scare I was able to buy a run down abandoned house for 35k after qualifying for a loan through USAA that I really shouldn't have ever been approved for. Just stupid little things like that can really make a huge difference in the long run.
By preference using state mechanisms or idk some kind of people's tribunal. Future bleak as fuck so at a certain point enough people will be okay with either
There is a high enough quantity of millionaire/billionaire simps who can prevent this from proceeding by protecting those pieces of trash that this will likely never happen in your lifetime.
It's her justifying to herself that whatever success she previously had and just lost was a choice, not a failure on her part. Clearly her business took a turn for the worse.
This is on par with the Greek stoics, idle rich fuckers who would deprive themselves of luxuries "for a while" ... and then congratulate themselves for that deprivation when they got back to doing their regular idle rich fucker shit.
There’s a difference between that and thinking you’re on to a philosophical secret while being blind to the all the time living conditions of almost every human being.
This reads like she was living outside of her means and recently was forced to return to her financial reality, and is framing it as a choice she made lol
Either that or she's an actual rich person and just cosplaying being poor because there's a lot of rich fucks who like to backpat themselves for their "asceticism".
"Garcon? I'd like one of your... Big Mac burger meals, medium rare please. If you have truffles, please include them on the side. Also my chosen table by the window seems to be occupied. Please chase them away. Thank you."
I find the cooking one weird, because the food you cook for yourself is usually the best. I know exactly how cheesy I like my pasta sauce, and how big I like the chunks of chicken sliced in my curry, and what ratio of spices I like in my fajitas. I'm not even that good a cook. I can't imagine having enough money to want to stop doing that.
The food at the really fancy restaurants is really fucking good. I'm a pretty good cook and baker, and if all my time was taken up with something that pulled in over $1MM a year, you bet your ass I'd sup at such schmancy-ass establishments ... for a few years until I can just retire, then start cooking again with all that knowledge under my belt.
You might not be that good a cook by your own admission, but some people can't cook at all. They just never learned it, and they'll just burn the food.
I had a coworker who could only cook chicken. The only way she knew how to cook it was boiling it in a saucepan on high heat for about two hours, like her mom did. No salt, no pepper, no seasoning at all.
Imagine you have a private chef who makes your dishes exactly how you would do it for yourself, in your own home. I like cooking, I’m fairly good at it, but this would be a hard option to beat
I’ve gotten depressed enough (and my kitchen at my new place is very shit) that I don’t cook that much for myself anymore. My wife still keeps it up sometimes and understands that I hate our closed off kitchen. Also, it’s a simple walk down the street to a food truck or a 2 min car ride to get fun instant ramen then I can make a soft boiled egg.
The money is comfortable but I want to cook more again. I miss it.
sometimes i like to strap 4 prosthetic legs to my hips and carry around pine needles in a pair of tweezers, after which i pour molten aluminum into an ant nest
"For fun" as in "for travel" or "for visiting people" which is fun. As in the whole "business or pleasure?" type thing people get asked when flying, I think the majority of folks in economy (and maybe all flight) are travelling for pleasure.
As unpleasurable as flight is, it's typically the best and cheapest option unless not going far or you're lucky enough to have nice rail options. So it's still "more fun" than the alternative which might mean extra days of travel time which may even include you actively having to drive.
"Rich person that has everything the working class suffers to obtain, culturally appropriates the experiences of the working class to benefit themselves."
"whisper networks of power players" doesn't set any alarm bells off for you? When you see something like that happening, you don't think, even for one second, "everyone in this room should become a fine pink mist very quickly." You don't think that?? You just go along with it and try to get some power for yourself?
And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft brown eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that LinkedIn clout chasers were no longer even remotely human.
I just checked LinkedIn. She's a real person and this is a real post and there are 83 other real comments from her contacts agreeing with her and praising her. WTF.
Linkedin is the absolutely worst shithole socialmedia that has ever been created. 4chan is more down to earth. The idea in the beginning was great. Make it easier for people to create a network in order to get hired. Unfortunately that just leads to the nastiest of asskissing of capitalism in order to get seen.
it's really true. Facebook is bad. Instagram is real, real fucking bad. but LinkedIn ... every server that powers that site, and every "person" who posts on it unironically, all need to be reduced to ash, ground to fine powder for good measure, and then shot into the sun. it's the absolute worst of humanity collected in one convenient location.
It's so confused. "Subway instead of drive" sure, because it's faster and easier. "Flying like a sardine instead of a human" what are you trying to prove?
I'm a 1,90m dude, not particularly slender, bigger than 95% of humans out there. I fly economy most of the time (every time I have to pay for it myself). Sure you don't get a suite, but what sardines are you talking about? It's really not that bad. Get some videos on your phone, noise canceling headphones, and it's just fine. It's really not worse than my own car, space wise.
Flying at peak time with airport security sucks already. Then the small seat just makes it worse. Admittedly, it does suck a little less now that seats have screens.
Well, she seems to want to understand regular people, which is good. But there can't be a worse display of that then thinking flying economy is fun, goddamn.
Maybe, but there are attempts by rich people to prove that they aren't that different from the poors. Like Zuckerberg will tell you that his kids have assigned chores. Kids who are far more likely to go to Harvard like he did.
Nice. I’ve been planning for an extended period of being homeless, starving, and working on my interpersonal skills by relying on strangers for basic needs.
Oh, wait, not planning, I meant bracing. Silly me.
For much of history, comfort and stability wasn't available to anyone, at least a large portion of society today in developed counties could claim that (anything lower middle class and up).
Things could certainly be better, I'm just pointing out that things are a lot better than many doomers claim. This lady is certainly super entitled, but the fact that the average person can afford to fly across the world is pretty awesome.
Yeah, it's not great that some people are obscenely wealthy, but that doesn't mean the rest of us are getting poorer, we're also getting richer, just more slowly than the very rich.
Wage stagnation is completely fucked, though, and housing and rent prices are shooting up at absurd rates all over the place. Every year comes a shitty raise that can’t keep up and companies pat themselves on the back for being so generous while their employees are effectively poorer than they were the year previous.
None of that talks about the fact that we can take care of everyone but the rich are hell-bent on taking as much as they can regardless of what it does to others. The true reason the US is the worst country on earth, in my opinion, is because there’s no reason why they need to be such a flaming dumpster fire full of dogshit but they are anyway just so a handful of the worst people in history can make little bit more money.
housing and rent prices are shooting up at absurd rates
They're actually stabilizing and coming down a little in some areas, so I think we're likely to see a bit of a correction now that construction seems to be catching up with demand.
But housing is also a major factor in inflation, which is why I linked inflation-adjusted figures. That data shows that wages are rising slowly relative to the prices of things. Some things will increase in price faster than others, so housing has been outpacing other things people spend money on. All that comes out in the wash in the averages.
we can take care of everyone
Right, and I agree with you.
My point is that despite all that, the average person is better off each year than they were the previous. There are obviously ups and downs, and each person is affected differently, but the median person generally does better each year. It's easy to lose sight of that when we see prices going up w/ inflation, but it tends to work out.
The Trump administrations alone is a drastic ramping up of corruption
Agreed, and if opinion polls are to be believed, people are noticing.
The “big beautiful bill” is going to hurt a lot of people in a lot of ways.
I obviously haven't read through the whole thing, but it's honestly a lot more tame than I expected. It's still horrible, but I'm much more worried about what Trump is doing outside of legislation, like messing with tariffs and deporting people.
With AI and robots making such advances and that technology being firmly in their control, it’s more important than ever for people to stand in solidarity and push harder for a more equitable society.
I don't see what AI and robots have to with anything. Are you worried they're going to take everyone's jobs?
This sounds like the same FUD every time there's a big tech change. People were worried the cotton gin would, automobile, and computers would kill jobs, yet here we are with relatively stable employment figures. Yes, it'll cause change, but at the end of the day, businesses need consumers, so it's in their interest to keep money circulating.
I agree we need to make changes, but that's completely separate from recent innovations. I think we need something like UBI (my preference is to replace Social Security with a negative income tax), not because I'm worried about mass unemployment, but so we can increase innovation. Many people don't pursue their ideas because they're worried about putting food on the table.
Things are always at an inflection point. I'm more worried about the protectionist BS countries are doing today than anything involving AI.
how bad those statistics are being collected today in the US
Most of that data was collected outside of Trump's terms, either under Biden or Obama, and the trend is consistent.
it doesn’t account for cost of living expenses
It uses "real" dollars, which accounts for inflation. So yes, it does.
Income distribution is irrelevant here, I'm looking at median incomes rising over time, relative to inflation. Musk or Bezos making billions doesn't skew these numbers since they're not mean numbers (average).
I could probably dig up some stats that break it down by income percentile, but I'm worried you'll just reject it because it doesn't fit your worldview. If you provide some evidence to back up your claims (not just income gap, that's well known, but that people are becoming worse off), I'll go dig through the data and see what I can find. But "things are actually getting better" don't make headlines, so there's a lot of rage bait to dig through.
most of the people I know are barely getting by and have nothing for retirement
Anecdotes aren't statistics.
If you go back 50 years, people still didn't save enough for retirement. Pensions largely filled in the gap there, but a lot of people still fell through the cracks. That's largely not an income problem and more a priorities problem. Show me someone who doesn't have enough for retirement and I can show you someone with a similar income who did. Even people with huge incomes often live paycheck to paycheck.
Obviously individual circumstances differ, but individual circumstances don't define trends.
the majority of younger Americans have far less wealth than our parents or grandparents did at our age
Do you have sources to back any of this up?
Dark Money
That certainly happens, but stories like this are mostly rage bait.
Do you think companies suddenly got greedy recently? They've always been greedy, and have been screwing people over since time immemorial.
The reason things get more expensive isn't because some capitalist decided to suddenly become more greedy, it's because of supply and demand.
Things shot up in price during COVID for a number of reasons:
less supply due to supply chain disruption
more cash due to stimulus payments and less work expenses
more time at home, so people invested more in things to do at home
Yet people blame "those greedy capitalists" when really it's consumer behavior largely driving up prices.
When the cause of higher prices is resolved, prices tend to return to normal. For example:
eggs were $5+/dozen at the start of the year and hard to find due to supply shortage from a bird flu epidemic, now they're around $2.50 (both at my local Costco); that's about where they were a year ago
houses in my area are dropping in price and staying on the market longer since construction is catching up
used cars were frequently more expensive than new back in 2022 or so, and now both new and used are largely in line with inflation adjusted 2019 figures (e.g. base model 2026 Prius is ~$30k, vs $25k MSRP for 2019, or ~$31k after inflation)
technology inevitably creating some surplus, not trickle down from the rich
I don't know what you mean by "trickle down from the rich," but things like technological change is funded by the rich. Reagan was certainly an idiot here, my point is merely that things get better partially because of investments by the rich. That generally doesn't mean you make more money, but that you get more for your money (e.g. everyone seems to have smartphones now vs almost nobody 20 years ago).
climate change
This doesn't seem related, not sure why you bring it up. If anything, it'll create jobs since we'll need people to build dikes, rebuild coastal homes, etc, at the cost of reduced GDP since it's not actually productive work.
the last 50 years have not been kind to poorer Americans.
Afaik, no time is kind to poorer people. But I firmly believe poorer people are better off today than they were 50 years ago.
The we all have the same 24 hours thing is so true! From a different angle though
Some of us need to take care of children, or perhaps elders. Cook food. Commute to work and back while the boss has home office privileges because he "works so hard".
We all have the same 24 hours, but some of us have obligations we can't offload, or aren't rich enough to offload.
"Ah, riding the subway carriage with the undesirables. So freeing of burdens like spa appointments and dinner at Dorsia. Just pure animalistic travel."
I especially like that they claim electronics burst into flames if they're not grounded, because the electrons have nowhere to go.
Which, let's ignore the complete misunderstanding of how electricity works for a moment, but if they truly believe the ground pin does something functionally, how do they ignore all the shit that only has a two prong plug?
This is in addition. Like if you are at home or a hotel and want to be "grounded"
Also, they have grounding shoes! Which are shows with a few small metal rods going through the bottom, so that when you wear them you are still electrically connected to the ground (which means they assume you don't wear socks???)
i'm in a community for minimalist shoes/barefooting and this shit is the bane of our existence, every now and then someone joins and starts talking about grounding and it's miserable how few people are willing to firmly call it out as batshit nonsense
people seemingly can't do something unusual without a magical justification, "it feels nice" or "it's what we're evolved for" isn't enough, it's gotta be all spiritual and pseudoscientific apparently.
This would be a lot more meaningful if she did that old trope and straight-up switched places with someone for the day. Eat what they would've eaten, travel how and where they would have traveled, stay where they would have stayed, and have the same amount of daily spending money they would normally have had (and if that number's zero, welp, guess it's good she's such a hard worker. I'm sure she she'll be fine.)
Dear Ms. Mah,
It's nice to want to understand what it's like to be a poor person, but you know what would actually help poor people? Sharing a bit of that excess you clearly enjoy. Come back and brag after you do a bit of that, then maybe we could talk.
Mah, hailed by Forbes as a "wildly successful serial entrepreneur" who launched her first six-figure business in middle school, has built a business empire worth over $500 million. Despite these accomplishments, the 32-year-old describes herself as a “struggling entrepreneur.”
"Does my life sound like a fairy tale? When I hang out with aspiring entrepreneurs in college, they say they want my life. But my best friends who know me best almost always say they would HATE my life," Mah wrote candidly in her post.
She revealed working a minimum of 60 hours a week and grappling with what she calls "accomplishment dysmorphia." Mah also shared deeply personal struggles, including the pain of losing an ex-boyfriend to suicide and her ongoing battle with comparing herself to others.
gee I wonder if the boyfriend killed himself due to ending up with a relentless shark-eyed clout chaser with a soul so dark & empty a thousand universes in full bloom could never hope to fill it 🫢
Wow you live life. How thought provoking. Meanwhile I am enjoying cheap ramen watching chefs eat amazing Spanish cuisine and.....
Now I've read the second part. Go be in wild nature for a month without digital devices or spent 2 weeks somewhere far out.
I needed to get humble when I was a pre-adult. It changed me, I wanted it to change me. Happy I got the opportunity to do so.
People like this??? I am at loss of words. All the things she describes are not thrilling at all (for me). It seems like some people are a "person" instead of a "human". IDK how to explain it but it really is like that.
Flying non-economy is just way too expensive. People that cannot be uncomfortable for a single flight so they'll pay double the price do not need that kind of money.
Depends. Sometimes flying in a higher class means you can sleep comfortably and save a hotel night, or work a day more, or meet a deadline. Same reason taxis can sometimes be the right solution, despite being more expensive than public transport.
This post was a bit of a roller coaster, and I’m still trying to decide what I think about the full linkedin text.
what really matters
If they really matter, why don’t you make decisions that prioritize that stuff over your career and hollow social status?
Words vs actions. Tale as old as time.
But then for some reason I clicked on the LinkedIn link others shared. Most of the way down the post I saw these paragraphs that make me think there may be hope for her yet:
I’ve sold off so many things I didn’t need—including a sports car that, truthfully, just made it harder for people to connect with me. And harder for me to connect with myself.
I made a conscious decision: I want to live a life centered around the fundamentals. Real relationships. Honest work. Good food. Movement. Curiosity. Quiet. Integrity.
It’s a journey I’m still on, and I’m far from perfect. But I can feel the shift. And I think others can too.
I am way down this road myself. But I haven’t sold off any sports cars. In fact, I think I might acquire one. For good reasons of course, including connecting better with myself any my family. I like driving and my son likes windows-down joyrides. Might have to replace the Mazda3 with an MX-5!
a lunatic? completely. but this is almost a valuable message to break through to that echo chamber.
Flying economy just for fun?
It is just her humble bragging about being rich by cosplaying as a regular person.
yeah, it's ridiculous - but the core messaging is "money insulates you from reality" and that's something these people need to hear.
She "launched her first six-figure business in middle school" aka. has rich parents and never knew anything she is talking about here
Every "independently" wealthy person under 35 on the Internet.
Step 1, have lavishly rich parents
Step 2, use parents money and business networks to make money
Step 3, brag about being humble while also flaunting your wealth.
“I made this all myself. If I can do it, anybody could do it”
If I wanted to see someone bragging about their accomplishments, I'd just look at this:
I'd even posit that this otter has contributed more to society than anybody on Linkedin.
the otter pup has contributed more to the universe by simply existing
I don't think it's restricted to under 35 and on the internet. I know a 40 something year old that says shit like "my wife and I are so independent and good with our money, we don't get any handouts. The only gift we get is that her parents pay off our credit cards every Christmas" unironically.
Rich people are so fucking out of touch.
Lol, fair enough. It's basically impossible nowadays to be comfortable without a little help, even if it's just systemic in nature.
I'm in my mid-late 30s and doing really well compared to most of the people in my age bracket mostly out of dumb luck and because my dad was in the military.
During the last housing market scare I was able to buy a run down abandoned house for 35k after qualifying for a loan through USAA that I really shouldn't have ever been approved for. Just stupid little things like that can really make a huge difference in the long run.
No they need to feel it by taking away their wealth
How are you going to do that? Ask politely?
I hear whispers of cannibalism from these types occasionally.
I know a good pork bolognaise recipe that feeds like 50.
By preference using state mechanisms or idk some kind of people's tribunal. Future bleak as fuck so at a certain point enough people will be okay with either
There is a high enough quantity of millionaire/billionaire simps who can prevent this from proceeding by protecting those pieces of trash that this will likely never happen in your lifetime.
Ok well lets just drown in shit then, never mind any historical precedences at all (even only a few years back up until today).
You are pretty much one of those simps right now, you are defending the statues quo.
Luigi style 👍
i will be asking politely, however i cannot speak for what my friends with clubs might or might not do.
You'll never live like Common People
Pretending to be rich yet grounded while actually being neither.
It's her justifying to herself that whatever success she previously had and just lost was a choice, not a failure on her part. Clearly her business took a turn for the worse.
100%
No leg room and screaming children just for giggles 🤭 hehehe
That's pretty much what I was thinking. Wish we poor plebs could vosplay as rich without maxing out ourncredit cards for life.
Not really. It's more an attempt to prove that rich people and poor people are vibing together so the poors don't revolt.
This is on par with the Greek stoics, idle rich fuckers who would deprive themselves of luxuries "for a while" ... and then congratulate themselves for that deprivation when they got back to doing their regular idle rich fucker shit.
https://youtu.be/St8FtbzH_JE
quietly nudges an old tent and sleeping bags out of sight
Yeah who would want to deprive themselves of luxuries for awhile, and then reminisce about the experience later!?
😐
There’s a difference between that and thinking you’re on to a philosophical secret while being blind to the all the time living conditions of almost every human being.
Oh, I totally agree! My comment was mainly being facetious
Hard to tell sometimes, what with this being The Internet.
Came here for this cover of this song.
Holy shit I did not remember this version! Glorious, thank you!
This reads like she was living outside of her means and recently was forced to return to her financial reality, and is framing it as a choice she made lol
So they’re unemployed and pretending that they’re just trying to ground themselves.
Might have just been demoted for incompetency
Either that or she's an actual rich person and just cosplaying being poor because there's a lot of rich fucks who like to backpat themselves for their "asceticism".
"I want to live like common people. I want to do whatever common people do."
"Garcon? I'd like one of your... Big Mac burger meals, medium rare please. If you have truffles, please include them on the side. Also my chosen table by the window seems to be occupied. Please chase them away. Thank you."
Garçon, si t’enlève la cédille ça fait garcon, et gare au con ma fille, gare au con!
@weariedfae @The_Picard_Maneuver
And in an instance, my brain was turned in to Pulp
The William Shatner version of this is really good. Really spits out the "poor is cool" part
I find the cooking one weird, because the food you cook for yourself is usually the best. I know exactly how cheesy I like my pasta sauce, and how big I like the chunks of chicken sliced in my curry, and what ratio of spices I like in my fajitas. I'm not even that good a cook. I can't imagine having enough money to want to stop doing that.
But how are you supposed to enjoy that food without an obsequious NPC to cut your steak for you? Is it even eating without an envious audience?
The food at the really fancy restaurants is really fucking good. I'm a pretty good cook and baker, and if all my time was taken up with something that pulled in over $1MM a year, you bet your ass I'd sup at such schmancy-ass establishments ... for a few years until I can just retire, then start cooking again with all that knowledge under my belt.
Yeah but also these people can just hire a private chef to get both at the same time
I'm not paying for a private chef to dine with me, then have all the fun cooking while I'm taking time to enjoy my life.
I'd probably just give ridiculous tips to the places that I already go to. But eh, to each their own.
You might not be that good a cook by your own admission, but some people can't cook at all. They just never learned it, and they'll just burn the food.
I had a coworker who could only cook chicken. The only way she knew how to cook it was boiling it in a saucepan on high heat for about two hours, like her mom did. No salt, no pepper, no seasoning at all.
Imagine you have a private chef who makes your dishes exactly how you would do it for yourself, in your own home. I like cooking, I’m fairly good at it, but this would be a hard option to beat
I’ve gotten depressed enough (and my kitchen at my new place is very shit) that I don’t cook that much for myself anymore. My wife still keeps it up sometimes and understands that I hate our closed off kitchen. Also, it’s a simple walk down the street to a food truck or a 2 min car ride to get fun instant ramen then I can make a soft boiled egg.
The money is comfortable but I want to cook more again. I miss it.
"I like pretending to be poor just like the little people I step on to attain my wealth. It's a great change of pace!"
sometimes i like to strap 4 prosthetic legs to my hips and carry around pine needles in a pair of tweezers, after which i pour molten aluminum into an ant nest
Who the fuck flies economy for fun
The majority of air travellers I suppose.
Are they masochists? Isn't it cheaper to find a dom for that?
"For fun" as in "for travel" or "for visiting people" which is fun. As in the whole "business or pleasure?" type thing people get asked when flying, I think the majority of folks in economy (and maybe all flight) are travelling for pleasure.
As unpleasurable as flight is, it's typically the best and cheapest option unless not going far or you're lucky enough to have nice rail options. So it's still "more fun" than the alternative which might mean extra days of travel time which may even include you actively having to drive.
She has the choice to fly first class, so the "for fun" isn't talking about where she's going, but the trip itself.
I'm making a bit of a joke. I'm aware.
Don't judge!
I'm not judging, except that I don't think the airline consented to being a findom.
I'm just pretending to be poor and didn't lose it all on Tesla futures.
no no see, she's founded three six-figure companies since middle school
Oooh i like this one lol
Fuck it's real, damn 85 comments 376 likes 8 reposts and 0 value.
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7350917142122258438/
God, I would wear my hand out punching every one of those smug cunts. "3X exit founder, relentlessly resourceful".
"Exit founder", AKA "my golden parachute is firmly welded to my back at all times."
these are the people I wouldn't deign to eat when the time comes, even if I were starving.
and that time... it is coming.
"Rich person that has everything the working class suffers to obtain, culturally appropriates the experiences of the working class to benefit themselves."
Rich people will steal anything.
Enough ragebait for the day, and I just woke up…
"whisper networks of power players" doesn't set any alarm bells off for you? When you see something like that happening, you don't think, even for one second, "everyone in this room should become a fine pink mist very quickly." You don't think that?? You just go along with it and try to get some power for yourself?
PATHETIC
Most humble LinkedIn lunanic
Maybe literally
And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft brown eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that LinkedIn clout chasers were no longer even remotely human.
edit: :jesus-christ:
What really matters is actually feeling that superiority when you get on a subway with the peasants.
Economy for fun. Mmmm, kinky. Make sure you have a safe word.
I just checked LinkedIn. She's a real person and this is a real post and there are 83 other real comments from her contacts agreeing with her and praising her. WTF.
Linkedin is the absolutely worst shithole socialmedia that has ever been created. 4chan is more down to earth. The idea in the beginning was great. Make it easier for people to create a network in order to get hired. Unfortunately that just leads to the nastiest of asskissing of capitalism in order to get seen.
it's really true. Facebook is bad. Instagram is real, real fucking bad. but LinkedIn ... every server that powers that site, and every "person" who posts on it unironically, all need to be reduced to ash, ground to fine powder for good measure, and then shot into the sun. it's the absolute worst of humanity collected in one convenient location.
4chan being a cesspool... I mean, technically you are right.
It's so confused. "Subway instead of drive" sure, because it's faster and easier. "Flying like a sardine instead of a human" what are you trying to prove?
I'm a 1,90m dude, not particularly slender, bigger than 95% of humans out there. I fly economy most of the time (every time I have to pay for it myself). Sure you don't get a suite, but what sardines are you talking about? It's really not that bad. Get some videos on your phone, noise canceling headphones, and it's just fine. It's really not worse than my own car, space wise.
Get on board a train. Ride that to the airport. Exit the train and board a plane. Tell me you haven't noticed a difference.
It's downright claustrophobic on modern airlines
Yes, the train has more space, but a normal car doesn't, and I never heard complaints about sardines when traveling by car.
Flying at peak time with airport security sucks already. Then the small seat just makes it worse. Admittedly, it does suck a little less now that seats have screens.
Well, she seems to want to understand regular people, which is good. But there can't be a worse display of that then thinking flying economy is fun, goddamn.
Fame? I'm sorry but who you is?
Jess mah balls
Gottem.
Damn imagine flying economy. With the peasants /s
Probably flew premium economy. Or at the very least, still got priority boarding with mileage status.
Nhaa, I'm betting she lost all her money on stupid decisions, and need an excuse if anyone were to see her in some place for poor people.
Maybe, but there are attempts by rich people to prove that they aren't that different from the poors. Like Zuckerberg will tell you that his kids have assigned chores. Kids who are far more likely to go to Harvard like he did.
https://youtu.be/YKzOFuDjByU?
Nice. I’ve been planning for an extended period of being homeless, starving, and working on my interpersonal skills by relying on strangers for basic needs.
Oh, wait, not planning, I meant bracing. Silly me.
So brave 🥹
Not a joke tho
Entrepreneur, your parents are rich, got it. Linkedin influencers, is there a more useless idiot?
For much of history, comfort and stability wasn't available to anyone, at least a large portion of society today in developed counties could claim that (anything lower middle class and up).
Things could certainly be better, I'm just pointing out that things are a lot better than many doomers claim. This lady is certainly super entitled, but the fact that the average person can afford to fly across the world is pretty awesome.
That doesn't match the stats I see, which is a pretty constantly increasing standard of living for the average person. Real median household income in the US had been consistently rising (here's a bit longer term data). If the rich really are taking from everyone, surely we'd see those numbers go down, no?
Yeah, it's not great that some people are obscenely wealthy, but that doesn't mean the rest of us are getting poorer, we're also getting richer, just more slowly than the very rich.
Wage stagnation is completely fucked, though, and housing and rent prices are shooting up at absurd rates all over the place. Every year comes a shitty raise that can’t keep up and companies pat themselves on the back for being so generous while their employees are effectively poorer than they were the year previous.
None of that talks about the fact that we can take care of everyone but the rich are hell-bent on taking as much as they can regardless of what it does to others. The true reason the US is the worst country on earth, in my opinion, is because there’s no reason why they need to be such a flaming dumpster fire full of dogshit but they are anyway just so a handful of the worst people in history can make little bit more money.
They're actually stabilizing and coming down a little in some areas, so I think we're likely to see a bit of a correction now that construction seems to be catching up with demand.
But housing is also a major factor in inflation, which is why I linked inflation-adjusted figures. That data shows that wages are rising slowly relative to the prices of things. Some things will increase in price faster than others, so housing has been outpacing other things people spend money on. All that comes out in the wash in the averages.
Right, and I agree with you.
My point is that despite all that, the average person is better off each year than they were the previous. There are obviously ups and downs, and each person is affected differently, but the median person generally does better each year. It's easy to lose sight of that when we see prices going up w/ inflation, but it tends to work out.
Agreed, and if opinion polls are to be believed, people are noticing.
I obviously haven't read through the whole thing, but it's honestly a lot more tame than I expected. It's still horrible, but I'm much more worried about what Trump is doing outside of legislation, like messing with tariffs and deporting people.
I don't see what AI and robots have to with anything. Are you worried they're going to take everyone's jobs?
This sounds like the same FUD every time there's a big tech change. People were worried the cotton gin would, automobile, and computers would kill jobs, yet here we are with relatively stable employment figures. Yes, it'll cause change, but at the end of the day, businesses need consumers, so it's in their interest to keep money circulating.
I agree we need to make changes, but that's completely separate from recent innovations. I think we need something like UBI (my preference is to replace Social Security with a negative income tax), not because I'm worried about mass unemployment, but so we can increase innovation. Many people don't pursue their ideas because they're worried about putting food on the table.
Things are always at an inflection point. I'm more worried about the protectionist BS countries are doing today than anything involving AI.
Most of that data was collected outside of Trump's terms, either under Biden or Obama, and the trend is consistent.
It uses "real" dollars, which accounts for inflation. So yes, it does.
Income distribution is irrelevant here, I'm looking at median incomes rising over time, relative to inflation. Musk or Bezos making billions doesn't skew these numbers since they're not mean numbers (average).
I could probably dig up some stats that break it down by income percentile, but I'm worried you'll just reject it because it doesn't fit your worldview. If you provide some evidence to back up your claims (not just income gap, that's well known, but that people are becoming worse off), I'll go dig through the data and see what I can find. But "things are actually getting better" don't make headlines, so there's a lot of rage bait to dig through.
Anecdotes aren't statistics.
If you go back 50 years, people still didn't save enough for retirement. Pensions largely filled in the gap there, but a lot of people still fell through the cracks. That's largely not an income problem and more a priorities problem. Show me someone who doesn't have enough for retirement and I can show you someone with a similar income who did. Even people with huge incomes often live paycheck to paycheck.
Obviously individual circumstances differ, but individual circumstances don't define trends.
Do you have sources to back any of this up?
That certainly happens, but stories like this are mostly rage bait.
Do you think companies suddenly got greedy recently? They've always been greedy, and have been screwing people over since time immemorial.
The reason things get more expensive isn't because some capitalist decided to suddenly become more greedy, it's because of supply and demand.
Things shot up in price during COVID for a number of reasons:
Yet people blame "those greedy capitalists" when really it's consumer behavior largely driving up prices.
When the cause of higher prices is resolved, prices tend to return to normal. For example:
I don't know what you mean by "trickle down from the rich," but things like technological change is funded by the rich. Reagan was certainly an idiot here, my point is merely that things get better partially because of investments by the rich. That generally doesn't mean you make more money, but that you get more for your money (e.g. everyone seems to have smartphones now vs almost nobody 20 years ago).
This doesn't seem related, not sure why you bring it up. If anything, it'll create jobs since we'll need people to build dikes, rebuild coastal homes, etc, at the cost of reduced GDP since it's not actually productive work.
Afaik, no time is kind to poorer people. But I firmly believe poorer people are better off today than they were 50 years ago.
Ironically probably written with genAI
I mean, getting rich people to reduce their waste output isn’t the worst thing in the world.
Definitely better than the “wE aLl HaVe ThE sAmE 24 hOuRs” hustle grindset nobody-wants-to-work bullshit.
The we all have the same 24 hours thing is so true! From a different angle though
Some of us need to take care of children, or perhaps elders. Cook food. Commute to work and back while the boss has home office privileges because he "works so hard".
We all have the same 24 hours, but some of us have obligations we can't offload, or aren't rich enough to offload.
"Ah, riding the subway carriage with the undesirables. So freeing of burdens like spa appointments and dinner at Dorsia. Just pure animalistic travel."
Now excuse me, I have to return some tapes.
If only she would ground herself in reality starting from the top floor of her skyscraper
Same energy:
Crazy, when I want to be grounded I just connect myself to the ground pin on my socket.
No.. I am not joking sadly https://groundingofficial.com/
LMAO WTF is this?? xD. This website screams "healthcare scam", the spin to win wheel pop-up is the cherry on top.
I hope no one actually falls for this (please let me have this fantasy thx)
I have friends who sleep on a pile of wires…
I especially like that they claim electronics burst into flames if they're not grounded, because the electrons have nowhere to go.
Which, let's ignore the complete misunderstanding of how electricity works for a moment, but if they truly believe the ground pin does something functionally, how do they ignore all the shit that only has a two prong plug?
That's hilarious. If you actually bought into this BS, you could just walk outside barefoot, it's free and literally everyone has access.
This is in addition. Like if you are at home or a hotel and want to be "grounded"
Also, they have grounding shoes! Which are shows with a few small metal rods going through the bottom, so that when you wear them you are still electrically connected to the ground (which means they assume you don't wear socks???)
best part? that has actual physical benefits and (after getting used to it obviously) it feels fucking lovely to walk through nature.
nothing beats soft moss or a lush lawn, my god
LMAO WTF is this?? xD. This website screams "healthcare scam", the spin to win wheel pop-up is the cherry on top.
I hope no one actually falls for this (please let me have this fantasy thx)
If grounding doesn't satisfy you, you may wanna try sounding.
Why not both? Take a long double sided pin, one end goes in the ground socket, the other...
i'm in a community for minimalist shoes/barefooting and this shit is the bane of our existence, every now and then someone joins and starts talking about grounding and it's miserable how few people are willing to firmly call it out as batshit nonsense
people seemingly can't do something unusual without a magical justification, "it feels nice" or "it's what we're evolved for" isn't enough, it's gotta be all spiritual and pseudoscientific apparently.
“It’s no wonder [bad things] rates are on the rise! It must be because of not being barefoot on the grass!”
Yea, not uhhhh all this fucking horseshit.
This would be a lot more meaningful if she did that old trope and straight-up switched places with someone for the day. Eat what they would've eaten, travel how and where they would have traveled, stay where they would have stayed, and have the same amount of daily spending money they would normally have had (and if that number's zero, welp, guess it's good she's such a hard worker. I'm sure she she'll be fine.)
Dear Ms. Mah,
It's nice to want to understand what it's like to be a poor person, but you know what would actually help poor people? Sharing a bit of that excess you clearly enjoy. Come back and brag after you do a bit of that, then maybe we could talk.
Sincerely,
Economy-flying, home-cooking, subway riders.
Basic, indeed.
"Everybody hates a tourist"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM
OR this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0
Honestly not sure which is better.
Oh really? If you're really so down to earth, eat this hot pocket.
They got rid of the motherfucking crisping sleeves! I'm pissed.
"entrepreneur playing the long game" ok fuck right off Jessica, in my country we say "stories made up in the beer garden"
https://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/report-meet-woman-who-flies-jet-drives-exotic-cars-claims-herself-as-struggling-entrepreneur-she-is-3119582
gee I wonder if the boyfriend killed himself due to ending up with a relentless shark-eyed clout chaser with a soul so dark & empty a thousand universes in full bloom could never hope to fill it 🫢
edit:
oh dear: https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/who-is-jessica-mah-tech-entrepreneur-faces-multiple-lawsuits-from-ex-colleaguesinvestor-article-152125789
OH DEAR: https://archive.ph/263Z3
Wow you live life. How thought provoking. Meanwhile I am enjoying cheap ramen watching chefs eat amazing Spanish cuisine and.....
Now I've read the second part. Go be in wild nature for a month without digital devices or spent 2 weeks somewhere far out.
I needed to get humble when I was a pre-adult. It changed me, I wanted it to change me. Happy I got the opportunity to do so.
People like this??? I am at loss of words. All the things she describes are not thrilling at all (for me). It seems like some people are a "person" instead of a "human". IDK how to explain it but it really is like that.
The real life person from Pulp's Common People, still a banger.
Flying non-economy is just way too expensive. People that cannot be uncomfortable for a single flight so they'll pay double the price do not need that kind of money.
Depends. Sometimes flying in a higher class means you can sleep comfortably and save a hotel night, or work a day more, or meet a deadline. Same reason taxis can sometimes be the right solution, despite being more expensive than public transport.
This post was a bit of a roller coaster, and I’m still trying to decide what I think about the full linkedin text.
If they really matter, why don’t you make decisions that prioritize that stuff over your career and hollow social status?
Words vs actions. Tale as old as time.
But then for some reason I clicked on the LinkedIn link others shared. Most of the way down the post I saw these paragraphs that make me think there may be hope for her yet:
I am way down this road myself. But I haven’t sold off any sports cars. In fact, I think I might acquire one. For good reasons of course, including connecting better with myself any my family. I like driving and my son likes windows-down joyrides. Might have to replace the Mazda3 with an MX-5!
UwU
I think she wants to cope with her downgrade or something along the lines...