Most people don't actually want to hurt their coworkers. But the reason lockouts are actual physical locks, is because people can get confused, make mistakes.
You give everybody doing the dangerous work a physical key to a specific lock on the device that can kill them, so they all have to come back and unlock it individually before you can enable the machine again.
Prevents issues like a work crew leaving a site piecemeal, and then the first guy thinks the last guy is done, but the last guy ran back to grab something....
And if this industrial panel doesn't have the ability to be locked out, you lock out the f****** electrical panel and cut power to it.
There are quite a few plane crashes where one important factor was the flight crew getting on the airplane and seeing an "INOP do not use" sticker and figuring "IDK, seems like it's working fine" and using it anyway.
Basically what I'm saying is, yes. There's a reason they started making physical locks for this, it wasn't because they were just sitting around one day in a corpse-free office and decided it would be a fun project to undertake.
There’s a reason they started making physical locks for this, it wasn’t because they were just sitting around one day in a corpse-free office and decided it would be a fun project to undertake.
I believe a lot of rules are written in blood, but some people think they're too smart for chesterton's fence.
Yeah. And you do NOT fuck with LOTO locks. We had a crew come from out of state for maintenance overnight, and they went home one of them forgot to remove his lock.
After we spoke with the worker on the phone the next morning to verify he wasn't in danger, we still didn't cut the lock. We made him get his ass on a plane and come remove it.
On every plant floor I've ever been on, tampering with a lockout was grounds for instant firing without appeal, and the tags said as much.
I suspect in this case it's neither the operators nor maintenance men who need firing; some asshole in management is probably forcing them to work on the machine at the same time it is in some kind of partially operational state in order to keep the line going in a moronic attempt to avoid downtime.
I know this is mostly a shit post, but if you're ever working on anything that has the slightest ability to maim, electrocute, etc use lock out tag out procedures. Industrial accidents are real, and can take someone from this world in a heartbeat. Stay safe nerds!
It literally takes 5 seconds to grab a hobo outside and put a work shirt on them. Do you understand how long it takes to make custom molded plastic boxes? I swear people don't want me to get my second super yacht or something, greedy fucks
I heard some horror stories when I was a TV engineer, usually from people not doing lock out tag out or disabling safety features to do the job faster.
It was kind of surprising to me to see that it was literally a lock like you’d put on a storage shed or something. I thought it would be something fancier.
I sincerely hope this photo was taken to be sent to the local government labour regulators so the company can be investigated for unsafe labour practices and not to post on social media for likes. In 2024, 826 people in the US were killed at work.
I love seeing this kind of post. Comments are half "lol funny meme" and the other half are people almost having a ptsd reaction as they (correctly) grill people about loto. I'll add my 2c; safety protocol is written in blood. Those rules exist because somebody in the past died horribly and people implemented procedures to prevent that from happening again. Ignoring safety protocol is ensuring that the next ones will be written in your blood.
It more or less provides an extra cushion to prevent restart, as a coat; harness/lanyard; or anything else can't inadvertently release it if it gets caught. The button may get detached but won't allow the system to run. It also just requires a tad more thought and intention to release it.
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Most people don't actually want to hurt their coworkers. But the reason lockouts are actual physical locks, is because people can get confused, make mistakes.
You give everybody doing the dangerous work a physical key to a specific lock on the device that can kill them, so they all have to come back and unlock it individually before you can enable the machine again.
Prevents issues like a work crew leaving a site piecemeal, and then the first guy thinks the last guy is done, but the last guy ran back to grab something....
And if this industrial panel doesn't have the ability to be locked out, you lock out the f****** electrical panel and cut power to it.
There are quite a few plane crashes where one important factor was the flight crew getting on the airplane and seeing an "INOP do not use" sticker and figuring "IDK, seems like it's working fine" and using it anyway.
Basically what I'm saying is, yes. There's a reason they started making physical locks for this, it wasn't because they were just sitting around one day in a corpse-free office and decided it would be a fun project to undertake.
Here is a fun minigame
The op note is dated 4/2/24
You come into your shift on 4/3/24 and the note is still there. What do you do?
Find out why it's been there for a month
Guys I found the European
It's even more confusing when you're Canadian and both formats are supported
Even worse that we're one of the few countries where all three formats are used.
Seriously, I don't know how we get anything done. It's gotta be pure luck
And then continue to figure out how I got sent more than 2000 years in the past
(YYYY/MM/DD for life!)
I favor this for sorting purposes.
Rip it off and hit the button. Obviously. Someone must have forgot.
You make an amendment to the complaint letter you are writing to your local workplace safety regulator
Implement proper LO/TO procedures
I believe a lot of rules are written in blood, but some people think they're too smart for chesterton's fence.
"lock out, tag out"
Any serious machinery needs to use it
Yeah. And you do NOT fuck with LOTO locks. We had a crew come from out of state for maintenance overnight, and they went home one of them forgot to remove his lock.
After we spoke with the worker on the phone the next morning to verify he wasn't in danger, we still didn't cut the lock. We made him get his ass on a plane and come remove it.
Great story.
Sends a message to all who hear it, reinforces the culture, prevents maiming/death due to miscommunication… lots of good stuff.
Nice!
On every plant floor I've ever been on, tampering with a lockout was grounds for instant firing without appeal, and the tags said as much.
I suspect in this case it's neither the operators nor maintenance men who need firing; some asshole in management is probably forcing them to work on the machine at the same time it is in some kind of partially operational state in order to keep the line going in a moronic attempt to avoid downtime.
Glad LOTO is the top comment on this post. You're doing God's work
I know this is mostly a shit post, but if you're ever working on anything that has the slightest ability to maim, electrocute, etc use lock out tag out procedures. Industrial accidents are real, and can take someone from this world in a heartbeat. Stay safe nerds!
Come on, some plastic boxes, tags, and padlocks are worth more than a human life, right? Won't someone for once PLEASE just think of the SHAREHOLDERS
It literally takes 5 seconds to grab a hobo outside and put a work shirt on them. Do you understand how long it takes to make custom molded plastic boxes? I swear people don't want me to get my second super yacht or something, greedy fucks
If hobos are so cheap and plentiful, why don't we start making padlocks out of them instead?
'stand here and make sure no one touches this'
We tried that in the 1920s but it was too depressing
This used to have a much larger impact before 3d printers.
I heard some horror stories when I was a TV engineer, usually from people not doing lock out tag out or disabling safety features to do the job faster.
It was kind of surprising to me to see that it was literally a lock like you’d put on a storage shed or something. I thought it would be something fancier.
It doesn't need to be secure, they fire anyone who removes someone else's lock.
I sincerely hope this photo was taken to be sent to the local government labour regulators so the company can be investigated for unsafe labour practices and not to post on social media for likes. In 2024, 826 people in the US were killed at work.
If this sort of risk exists, you need to be able to remove a key to disable the controls.
Every person who could be at risk needs to have their own lock preventing activation, and they need to maintain control of the key personally.
I love seeing this kind of post. Comments are half "lol funny meme" and the other half are people almost having a ptsd reaction as they (correctly) grill people about loto. I'll add my 2c; safety protocol is written in blood. Those rules exist because somebody in the past died horribly and people implemented procedures to prevent that from happening again. Ignoring safety protocol is ensuring that the next ones will be written in your blood.
That's how I like it in the comments - partly goofy and partly serious. I can potentially be amused and learn something at the same time.
LockedOut the machine for maintenance, boss
4th of February? That notice must be old, it's already the 2nd of April!
pushes button
My boy's a box!? Damn you!! a box!!
lock out, tag out or you to will become... a box.
Emergency stop: pull to start push to stop. What happens when you stop stopping?
When you push it in, it kind of snaps into that position. You don't have to hold the button down.
And the better designed e-stop buttons require the button a 1/4 to 1/2 turn CCW to release
Is there a reason the twist-to-release is better than pull-to-release?
It more or less provides an extra cushion to prevent restart, as a coat; harness/lanyard; or anything else can't inadvertently release it if it gets caught. The button may get detached but won't allow the system to run. It also just requires a tad more thought and intention to release it.
There are also ones that need a key to release.
Then I noticed that the person inside was the same one who was stealing my lunch....
No DeeDee!
Ooo what does this button do?
“Do not push button. Good advice” Pushes button
Is this from Rick and Morty?
push