Airing of Grievances Part I: We are not the same.
The first 6-12 months here (during/right after the Reddit API drama) were great. After that....not so much.
Note: Edited to add to the title and replace the image link with one that won't be going offline in 2 weeks.
748
Comments112
I'm a reddit refugee
from 2023,
but my original instance lemm.ee
has become history
There, only hexbear banned me
which actually means I'm decent, you see?
Are we the same person? I was on lemon.ee for a month before it shut down. Then actually jumped to another account after hexbear when I started to find out more about them.
i avoided those instances, after i heard how bad they were accidentally engaging in thier posts, they rubbed the wrong way so i blocked them before could recieve a ban from them.
I want this read at my funeral
I'll try to stop by?
Wait a second. You got banned from Reddit two years ago. Then you got onto lemm.ee and then immediately started shitposting in hexbear. Got banned, went back to lemm.ee, tanked that community through abuse and neglect. And had to migrate to... cracypeople.online?
And the problem is with... everyone else?
Is there reason to assume the hexbear “offense” was bad faith and they contributed to lemm.ee’s decline.
Hexbear can ban you for not thinking Russia is doing good by invading ukraine. So I wouldn’t take a Hexbear ban very seriously.
On my lemm.ee account I just kinda joined a hexbear conversation from /all without realising it was hexbear and got downvoted to hell and banned for being vaguely anti-authoritarian.
Hexbear users routinely cause strife in other instances' comms just because they criticize the ML regimes they support.
you would be a great fit for Hexbear with that high quality revisionism
I was never banned from reddit. I left due to the decisions of their management, mostly regarding 3rd party app api connectivity, but also their decisions regarding the content of the users and Ai scraping, and related to singular governing structure.
I've not been a shit poster that I'm aware of, I think I was banned for disagreeing with their ...slightly awkward... political leanings.
your comments about tanking the community are empty and seem to be a juvenile attempt to illicit some dumb troll emotional response. lol @ you.
I love how you made up an entire false origin story out of four select words.
They didn't say they got banned, only that they're a refugee from there.
To be fair @[email protected]
You’re doing an impossible job by trying to basically singlehandedly create a nice curated instance while removing all the bad stuff. Which honestly is amazing. But it’s not suprising to me that with that sort of workload you’re having a tough time and the charm of the lemmyverse is fading.
Edit: Holy shit I didn’t realise you’re shutting down dubvee (https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28754411). Honestly, I think that’s a very fair choice on your part given the situation. Respect.🫡
Thanks. And yep. This started as a fun project 2 years ago and it turned into a nightmare. Best thing I can do is leave.
Thanks for being one of the sane ones lol.
You abandoning lemmy completely or just the instance? If the former, will you be going back to reddit or avoiding this format completely?
Lemmy and the fediverse entirely. I guess you could also say social media entirely as this was my last vestige of it.
Planning to re-join the real world and put my energy into actual positive things.
That's always admirable. Social media can be very toxic. hopefully you'll be able to stay away for good, but so much is run via social media atm that it's hard to completely disconnect.
Itll be sad to see you go, sir
Good for you man
Great plan. I wish you good luck.
Yea, reddit api thing burned that bridge, been happy ever since.
Same, but kind of sucky sharing a perimeter with authoritarians and the worst kind of anarchists. If Lemmy were a physical location and not an online space I'd be sleeping fully armed.
I don't mind reading their points of view. I block people that cross lines but overall I appreciate different viewpoints.
I feel like "the people who represent your views are lying to you, murder all your government officials and open the ports for invasion" isn't really a point of view worth respecting, but I never block anybody for any reason.
Ports old and new are the key. If you leave random ports open, hackers walk right in. Once inside, they pay Rogan to get him talking about like idk guys we can't hate cold water ports 'afore giving them a chance, ya know? Me no smart so I just don't know. My guest today, the lovely, blonde, independent journalist Ivanna Holodomor says that...
Fucks sake, they've already got these asseating bots running on Lemmy?
You gotta be human to eat ass the way I do. AI can't possibly replace me.
Cringe
Now imagine yourself saying that in the 1930s. They still know how to slip a prybar into the door you open just a crack.
I mean 1930s, those "authoritarians" were the number one enemy of the fascists, trying to ally with literally anyone who would oppose them instead of giving them Czechslovakia abroad and fighting them in the streets at home.
Huh? Communists in Weimar Germany were denouncing Social democrats as social fascists and fought them because they were part of the capitalist liberal democratic system. Communists and Nazis at times were even allies of convenience against democracy.
Soon after the communist Soviets split Poland with Hitler.
The social democrats gave military hardware to the freikorp to put down the communists and arranged the assassination of Rosa Luxembourg. The communists said the SPD were creating the conditions for fascism, and they were correct. Hitler came to power when the SPD ran a conservative candidate as their "best shot at stopping the nazis". They won. That conservative proceeded to staff the government with nazis while cracking down on the left until it was trivial for the nazis to engineer a coup.
Regarding the molotov-ribontrope, if thats an alliance of convenience, what is every capitalist power arming Germany and splitting Czechslovakia between Germany and Poland, while ignoring the USSR's offer to invade Germany with 1 million men?
(yeah I'm posting wikipedia, I don't feel like spending the rest of my sunday night hunting down the specific books on libgen that are cited on each page, suffice it to say these are events which did occur, and even English Wikipedia doesn't deny them, the problem with a lot of these pacts is that they are named different things by different countries)
Four-Power Pact (worth noting france did not ratify)
Hitler Pilsudski Pact
Anglo German Naval Agreement
Anti Comintern Pact since this was between Japan/Germany there's less amnesia about it
German/British and German/French 1938 non aggression pacts are usually just called the Munich Agreement in English language sources to obfuscate what was happening
German Romanian Economical Treaty March 1939
German Ultimatum to Lithuania in March 1939 seems a bit unfair to characterize as a treaty tbh
"Pact of Steel" with Italy 1939 Now THIS is actually a military alliance pact, which is what people keep characterizing molotov-ribbentrop as
Danish-German non aggression pact May 1939 this one isn't wikipedia
Germany Estonia N-A-Pact June 7th 1939
German-Latvian N-A-Pact June 7th 1939
Molotov Ribbentrop Pact
Also it's worth noting that even though the USA never signed a non aggression pact with nazi germany, american capitalists were quite fond of funding nazis, doing trade with nazis, and even hosting nazi party rallies in the United States (such as one in madison square garden in 1939). And there was even a fascist attempt at a coup against FDR, that was thwarted by smedley butler being a whistleblower.
What makes people freak out about molotov ribbentrop is the agreement to partition states. the reason for this is because the USSR needed time to deconstruct factories and move them east before the luftwaffe could bomb them. The USSR made a calculated risk that by dividing poland they could move the future war front far west of where it would otherwise be if they refused a non aggression pact and just got invaded right away, and at the same time, move their war industry far east of the war front. Of course by making this calculated risk they gave an easy propaganda victory to all bourgeois nations who experience collective amnesia about every other non aggression pact, as well as their categorical refusal to enter into collective security against fascism with the "bolshevik menace" in the 1930s. It is somewhat similar to how USSR tried to join NATO in the 50s and was refused. The bourgeois nations never wanted collective security or peace with the USSR, even when it was on the table. In particular the USSR only invaded finland because it was the most convenient route to invade the USSR, and the Finnish (a future axis power) wouldn't sell them the land that the nazis eventually used to invade.
Yes, the social democrats wanted a liberal parliamentary democracy, not a Soviet stay with dictatorship of the proletariat. The communists tried a communist revolution and they lost. The alternative would have been a civil war, maybe even a breakup of Germany. Most people wanted stability and get back to their lives after WW1.
The communists continuously avoided moderation and compromise with the social democrats. They fought against the Weimar Republic actively. Many were accelerationists, who thought the rise of the Nazis would be to their benefit in the end.
Oh don't get me twisted. I oppose the lame capitalists
What do you consider the worst kind of anarchist? If I were to guess it would be anarco capitalists. Because they're just capitalists. But that's just me.
People who want to cleanse this nation with fire and violence, and who advocate against any form of participation in politics.
aka a subway station
Same, I always used third party clients since they create awful stuff. When the clients stopped working, I stopped going and started using lemmy.
Yeah I'm in the same boat. Though I will say, I have no personal experience of the stress and burden of running an instance myself. Especially one where the admins are actively trying to cultivate a non-toxic environment. That workload and the toxicity it exposes you to must be hell.
Personally I've had almost entirely positive experiences here, up to and including currently. But I stay out of politics, I've curated my subscriptions carefully and I never browse /all.
Is there really that much sports on Lemmy? For the longest time it seemed completely barren. Even now Soccer is just having stable but very minor activity. Formula 1 is fairly active though I guess.
And that just sounds like too much work. Much easier to see what you want to see on /subscribed and then put the phone away.
Most of the furry and anime porn is on a dedicated instance, just block that and you're done.
No, just the posts, I don't think you have the ability to block comments from one instance.
And if an entire instance is dedicated to NSFW content, the chances of missing something good are slim to none.
I use Boost, I'm not sure if it's an app feature or a platform feature.
You could block lemmynsfw entirely if you want.
Im here because I'm fucking stubborn.
I hate the Reddit app, give me back RIF and I'll abandon this place in a heartbeat. Give me a paid Reddit option to fuck the adds off and Ill take it. Ill pay $20 a month not to have to listen to you neckbeards to try and make literally every conversation about capitalism, linux or Trump.
Bunch of one note ass motherfuckers, you think I dont know the world sucks? I want some escapism for fuck sake.
Arch btw
You may want to try subscribing to non-political communities, and then browsing by subscribe. For example, here's a list of communities I subscribe to for when I don't want to read about politics:
::: spoiler click here for a list of communities that are NOT politics, tech, or meme -related.
Most are currently active (except for the ones with a * which were less active last I checked) Sometimes politics, tech or memes sneak in but they're not the focus.
GENERAL DISCUSSION / QUESTIONS
ART / PHOTOS
ANIMALS
COMICS / GRAPHIC NOVELS
ENTERTAINMENT
GENRES / STYLES
HISTORY
INFORMATION / KNOWLEDGE
OTHER
FEDIVERSE
FINDING NEW/GOOD COMMUNITIES ON LEMMY
:::
::: spoiler click here for a list of meme communities
MEMES, SOCIAL MEDIA REPOSTS, AND HUMOR
Most of these are currently active. (except for the ones with a * which were less active last I checked). Sometimes these include politics but that's not the sole focus.
:::
If Trump switched to Linux capitalism would fall
Pray to lord donny to be linux pilled 🙏 ramen
I keep getting banned for the dumbest shit these days. God forbid you insult Nancy pelosi for some reason. I got banned for jokingly saying "pour beans in his mouth" as petty revenge for someone farting in a CPAP. It's is getting dumbed down so bad over there
The frontpage was never good, but hooo boy.
Every time I catch a peek now it's the same Am I the Asshole (they're obviously not), Am I Overreacting (My husband called me 15 different slurs, AIO????), and the same stupid AskReddit questions (Americans of Reddit, how do you feel living in a ruined country?)
I swear, back then there were bots reposting old posts and reply chains, now they must be AI generating the whole thing because all the frontpage shit is the exact same posts, following the same format, day after day.
At this point I wouldn't go back even if rolled back their shitty changes.
If Reddit ever disclosed how many "users" were bots, I'm quite confident it would be >80%. 95%+ of everything we see on the front page. Now consider who is running those bots, and why. What kind of opinions are they trying to shape?
Happy cake day!
Thank you! 🙂↕️
Where are the people who made Reddit fun to use?
I’ve been banned on reddit for nothing so many times lol. People were saying something about a white person, and I made a very innocuous joke like “white people are the worst!” and I kid you not, some worthless reddit brained dumbfuck called me racist and told me to GTFO. I was perma banned. Stuff like that a million times over.
Have you heard of FreeBSD or Haiku? You could become even more extreme than us Linux users. Think about it!
BSD and Haiku users are far more chill and dont deny obvious downsides their OS has.
I dont care what you think.
For reddit I use RedReader, I don't know if that will be enough for you tho.
Looks like you want to be free. There is an easy way to do that, if I may ask for just 5 minutes of your time....
I dont care. If you got banned from reddit youre doing the world a great service.
I admit that I got banned from Reddit. I suspect that after saying a bunch of stuff that was unfriendly to lord Musk, to Netanyahu and to Hamas. Since then I seem to have gotten even the most innocent comments reported, leading to a permaban.
i was banned before all that drama, i posted/reported on someone on r/technology and recieved a temp ban for "reporting too much, or reporting that isnt "approved nebulously"
Tbqf not missing much, place is a cesspit
Oh geez, Rick... These guys sure like their echo chambers...
YeURRRPep, Morty. Duh... How else would CoOURRRRGHPOommunism sound like a good idea?
99% is still dumb as rocks though
Same percentage as the real world so good representation.
Fediverse users who are here because uhh privacy
Lemmy is not, and never has been private. It's highly public
Its private in that it doesn't collect data about you, besides what you provide yourself.
I use Zelda Botw
I'm really sorry to hear you burnt out and of your experience. Thanks for all you have done for threadiverse and tesseract. Hope you get a peace of mind after 31st.
I came here because I was permabanned from all os Reddit because I wrote an elevator lie about. A fictitious lie about a cheese man roaming the campus late at night
Edit:I’m sorry I can’t make this coherent I’m knocked badly
Are you sure it was a lie ?
I'm not in this picture.
What is the 3rd option here?
sick of lemmy's shit but there's nowhere better to go?
I came here when the reddit api thing happened, and have since blocked .ml because I don't want to deal with their shit. Problem though, the .ml admins are the lemmy devs, so using lemmy at all supports .ml and their bullshit.
Where else is there? Hive is a crypto scam, and every other option I've seen suggested isn't like reddit or lemmy. I guess there's piefed, but I don't understand how that isn't just lemmy but worse/different (if someone can explain it to me please do).
PieFed is parallel to Lemmy so it's being developed by other people, afaik. I think that's the beauty of the Fediverse, that if you don't like something or someone, you're free to make your own.
If your main gripe is with the devs, then definitely switch. I've been meaning to but I've been lazy. So I guess see you on the other side!
i made an account on piefed social, but they block nsfw communities so that's a non-starter. Is there an index of piefed instances similar to how lemmy has join-lemmy org?
The Lemmy.world folk just announced piefed.world, you could try that
Well why are you here
I was born. It wasn't my choice.
Born in the fediverse?
But the moral of the story from the episode was that they were both necessary. Vital sub-components of one complete terminally online poster. You can't really have one without the other.
I like it here for the most part but I don’t like the reddit tendencies. Stuff we solved many years ago there. Why is it not great anymore?
People ruin everything.
Aw shoot, we're the 2b2t of forums?
Little of column A, little of column B.
Many of the people here were banned from reddit for being unbearable and they learned nothing
I told a Nazi spouting hate to drink bleach. what did I learn?
Reddit is full of Nazi supporting scum.
edit: I also got banned from imgur for telling a person promoting the euthanasia of disabled people was better than allowing them to "dirty the pool". I also told them to drink bleach.
Imagine my surprise when a US president tells people the same thing and gets reelected!
The bans are mostly meaningless these days tho. Its so easy to make a new account and bypass detections.
not on reddit though, much harder to bypass since they upped thier bannings and detection methods this year and recently too. the ones that are bypassing on reddit usually are using hundreds of account at once and earning some money from doing it. additionally they also are using AI to indiscirminately ban people.
Its still super easy just search the web how to. Use a new browser window with new email on mobile network connection - its literally impossible to reliably fingerprint this.
Reddit can associate accounts over time.
They try bur they're really bad at it. I'm on my 10th account or so and so is everyone else.
if you're using the mobile apps then yea you're fucked, don't do that
i dint, it was firefox browser on private with some adblockers, they just decided to purge thousands of peoples accounts at once.
Damn
IP Address?
Depends on what they were banned for.
I've been perma-banned from reddit a bunch and I eventually just got tired of making new accounts lol.
heheh they use some kind of fingerprinting, a combination of your OS, ISP IP, and browser. At some point you can't keep creating new accounts.
Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure I used an encrypted email to make my last account
Yes but you still used the same computer and configuration to go to the reddit website to sign up, right?
Check this out
https://mdigi.tools/whatversion/
All your encrypted email does is make it hard for someone to read your email. It doesn't stop all the metadata.
Ah, thanks for clarifying, if you can't tell I'm not particularly tech savvy
I'm here because I was banned from Reddit for speaking against fascism.
hay, some of us were dutifully agitating for the cause!
What's the point in dividing us?
Drama. Don't you want some drama? Here, have some drama.
Why after that not so much? I’ve only been using lemmy since and I didn’t notice a huge difference
Yeah, we are less good at toing the line and acting like NPC's, but some of us were banned for the opposite of fascism, you know? Really petty reasons such as telling a fascist "you first".
Ohh an "I am holier than thou" posts!
I almost missed them.