According to Pornhub data (yes seriously!) Linux market share in 2024 increased more than 40% relative to 5.1% of all users.
Here is all the data for 2024: https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2024-year-in-review
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Pornhub is lowkey a very skilled tech company. Delivering a quality video platform on the scale they do is incredibly difficult.
Also obligatory: Year of the Linux Desktop! 🎉
Netflix but for horny people
"Netflix and chill" has lead me to believe those 2 Ven diagrams overlap quite a lot
Pornhub and get to it
I don't like their company because they are also like the meta of porn in the sense that they bought up all their competitors and have made a monolith service
I made it to the final round of interviewing with them a couple years ago. I think it would have been interesting to work for them. They have PHP and even some Laravel in their stack.
Can't believe they turned you down. Would've loved to hear about PH developer stories
Yeah I was a bit surprised too, they even told me how well I did during the interview and how I was getting stuff right that most of their candidates get wrong, and they made it seem like I should expect an offer from them. I think the dealbreaker was that I hadn't worked with message brokers before.
First time I've heard of message brokers. I guess I'll have to learn that if I want a job with PH
If you want a computer programming job with them then yeah definitely.
apparently: the same goes for its patrons; i'm sure i'm responsible for atleast 1 percentage point. lol
Apart from hosting an ad service that served malware, and having their user database leaked more than once.
Probably Steam Deck users with that handheld device in one hand and their handheld device in the other.
the age of linux is cumming upon os.
ok this is really bad , ill see myself out....
I have nothing constructive to say. I laughed too much at this.
Not what the distro meant by release
take my angry upvote!
As long as you don't use any of the windows and use the front door like my pet penguin, I won't mind.
And there's a kernel of truth in there and by that I don't mean the kernel of an apple.
That's one horney Linux user
Sorry guys... My gooning streaks are skewing the data; I'm the masturbations Georg and shouldn't have been counted...
My apologies, this data is misleading. Most of the new traffic is actually just me mass downloading and data hoarding porn across thousands of VMs. Whenever I need to rub one out I ssh into one of them and watch it that way. Keeps it off my main machine and keeps my browser history clean.
Rube Goldberg machine but for masturbation.
Instructions unclear. Penis stuck in fan.
Kinky
Yeah but your ISP knows someone at your address is consuming a metric ton of corn.
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Shit man, are the ISPs running the sewers now too??
Georg Hub, is that you?
Just open private browser window.
New gens are ruining everything - "vertical video" gen-z, really?
Y'all need a spanking.
Those gen y and x ages are whack
Also, I hate zoomers and their vertical videos too
Yeah, idk what tf those age brackets are, it's like they haven't updated them since they first set up the graphics for the statistics.
Yep totally agree. And I also like boobies.
I'm sorry. There are people who go to an adult hardcore porn site and then type in "Suitable for work"??? Like do you think the site wouldn't get flagged at your work?
HR: IT detected that you watch porn at work.
Employee: I’m not, it’s all SFW videos
HR: OK, no problem then.
Maybe they're just hoping to find a sexy fuckable whore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If a step-coworker gets stuck it better not be physically or it's NSFW. If it isn't physical, they just get fired bcs their ass isn't doing the job.
Idk, I saw a post on pornhub stats on I believe a map community that showed that cuddles were quite a popular tag. And if it's wholesome and comfy looking why not?
Ok I have problems with these cutoffs for ages. My wife is 57 (1967) and is very definitely a gen x’er.
As someone else said, they probably kept the original age bracket. I'd say it's at least 5-6 years out of whack. Early Ys are starting their forties, late ones their thirties.
Same here, but it also depends per country since well average life spans, average age to buy a house, average age to start a family etc all have an impact on when a new generation starts.
Kinda bummed they grouped the fetish all in one category. Thought we were getting weird here
... is it possible that these uneducated plebeians just put "fetish" in the search?
(jk)
maybe they're looking for new ones lol
I'm somewhat proud my generation is actively seeking out parody porn. Those videos tend to be higher budget and more sex positive (less gonzo misogyny).
Edit: well, should caveat that by saying relatively less misogynist
I'm sorry about my generation. Pretty ashamed about the vertical video thing
Is that supposed to be they watch videos in vertical...or they get off on watching vertical videos?
"Oh yeah, tilt that camera. Tilt it harder. There we go. Oh yeah! It's standing straight up."
Vertical video is better for content focused on a single standing performer, because it allows as much of the screen resolution as possible to show the body. Horizontal is better for a performer lying down or any traditional horizontal sex acts, for the same reason.
I'm probably reading a little too far into this, but IMO Gen Z is much less interested in "simulations" of intercourse and is more interested in something "real", i.e someone doing a dance. Intercourse feels like a fantasy, like you're supposed to imagine that you're the one having intercourse, it's that fantasy which is appealing. Something like dancing or dirty talking is more honest about what it is, since a video of someone dancing or talking is essentially the same experience as if they were actually there in front of you. I believe that because Gen Z is more digitally native than older generations, they see digital content not as a substitute or fantasy for a real thing, but rather as a real thing in itself, and the nature of the content they consume reflects that. Another example of this is the shift from real-life streamers who fake personalities but pretend that they are presenting their real selves, to vtubers - who implicitly acknowledge that they are playing a fictional character for their stream as symbolized by their avatars. The human streamers are a fantasy substitute for a real human friend, but with a vtuber the content does not pretend to be different than what it actually is - a pretend character putting on a show for your enjoyment. By acknowledging its artificiality and integrating it into the content itself, it shifts from being something "fake" and "simulated" to being something "real". To me it's the exact same dynamic manifesting in a different area.
Now of course, I do understand that vertical content also simply means you don't need to rotate your phone, and that Gen Z is almost exclusively using the Internet on the phone vs. the desktop as older generations will. But this too is essentially a reflection of the feeling that digital content is not an artificial recreation confined to a specific display area (a TV or computer) but rather perpetually available (your phone), as would be appropriate for something which has taken on the status of being real rather than fake. The two forces reinforce each other, imo.
Who doesn't like a uniformed threesome between two dudes and a flower, or android/ghost/green lady sex, or just a speedrun to ejecting the core?
Boomers = 1950-1964
Gen X = 1965-1979
Gen Y = 1980-1994
Gen Z = 1995-2009
Gen α = 2010-2025
So ages
18-29
30-44
45-59
60+
Do you guys realize how much 40% actually is in a single year? That's crazy. Don't just look at the 5.1%.
I'm sure it's heavily influenced by the Steam Deck, it being a great device for porn and all, but still.
It does correlate with the numbers Steam released a few days or weeks ago.
Windows 11 not installing on "older" machines is big too.
We really need to thank Microsoft. They're pushing a LOT of people to try out the free stuff.
TBH I was more happy about Apple losing shares while android gains, though I expect that might be shortlived as Google attempts to obsolete privacy android based OSes with their Android 16 requirements.
Linux users are gooners confirmed.
Never heard of lemmynsfw.com ?
That link is amazing... they even have maps 😂 !
The pornhub blog is surprisingly good reading every once in a while. They take their data analysis seriously.
This chart is fascinating, although it's unfortunate that so many states don't have a specific category assigned to them. I just can't help but notice how many weeabo degenerates (I am part of said degenerates) must be living in Wisconsin, and Oregon being furry makes me wonder how many furries live there.
I am very suspicious of the -26% Apple marketshare. It makes me feel like there's more to this than it seems at first. There's no way 26% of Apple users stopped using Apple devices within a year.
Edit: maybe it could be caused by a large user base increase that shifted the demographics, but this fast? And the PornHub bans across US states started only this year for the most part if I'm not mistaken, so it shouldn't affect this data?
2024 was the release of iOS 17.4, when Apple allowed third party browsers to use their own engine instead of WebKit/Safari as a layer beneath. So it could very well be that Firefox Mobile and Chrome Mobile on iOS don’t get registered as iOS Device in this survey due to their user agent.
No browser uses a different engine yet (presumably because Apple only allows them to offer this in the EU, under draconian conditions).
I was gonna say, I haven’t heard of any rewrites yet, and it is probably GDPR or some similar regulatory compliance.
I don't think third parties engine-based browsers are even available for iOS, given that Apple only allows that for EU users.
Even if true, that would only explain the difference for mobile users and not the decrease in mac os use.
This is only for iOS and the user agent will still report the OS as iOS. For macOS it was always possible to run third party web engines.
But we don‘t know how pornhub analyzes their data. All the other statistics don‘t support their statistic.
They said in the report that they have grown marketshare in Asia and Africa, as less people use apple in those regions the percentage dropped.
So what you're saying is that there are more wankers on Linux nowadays!???
Maybe they're just watching it for the plot.
Well, been * ahem * told that a friend of a friend didn't found any videos there were "Your friendly neighborhood geek goes into the house of a hot milf to upgrade her Windows 10 machine to Arch and she shows them how hot she found their Linux install skills and how thankful she is", so that seems unlikely.
Haha!
But uh...I would watch that. That sounds pretty hot.
This pretty much HAS to exist.
Does porn work well on Linux ? looking to switch
If your kink is Penguin ...
Bash:
yay -Ss stepsister-stuck
I hate the step sibling stuff so much.
Why? Did you get stuck in a washing machine yourself at some point?
On a more serious note, I remember reading an article once about this phenomenon. About how it's not some widespread latent sex fantasy to fuck step-siblings. Rather it's an odd reflection of how algorithms poison the content in this attention economy. The more unusual the content is (without being outright objectionable), then the more attention it gets for being so unusual. That starts a wave of new creations from content creators to jump on the bandwagon for the popularity of the content that seems to be getting traction. Then pretty soon anyone not catering to this "demand" is an outlier and loses out, so eventually this theme of content floods the entire ecosystem.
Seems very plausible. The title just puts me off.
I hear ya. I really wish we could go back to the good old days of "who ordered the extra large sausage pizza" and " I'm here to check your plumbing, ma'am".
Yeah I mean if you’re going to make weird fetish stuff, do it I just hate that some videos that I might enjoy watching are kind of ruined for me just by the title.
This a serious question? If so, yes it works like a normal computer
You need to check PorntonDB
AKA TBLOP
No I was riffing on all those "does x work on Linux" threads
That's all me ur welcome gais
Firefox have 8 percent on desktop that's great
I have to ask: What kind of browser is Android? Do people watch porn from WebView? Wouldn't that just be Chrome?
Now I want to see the usage stats for e621.
You wouldn't be surprised :3
Just fapped as a celebration 🎉
Year of the desktop
Username checks out
Is it finally the year of Linux?
(ง’̀-‘́)ง
Yes, it was last year, sorry you missed it!
Guys, we're losing big to mobile devices. Although I'm glad Australia is still going strong at 12% desktop computer.
65.2% (globally) are Android so technically we're winning!
I wish I could run Linux on my phone.
Maybe you can
Oh neat, I'll have to look into this.
There’s a few. Sailfish I think is the most polished and least buggy. At least that’s what I learnt from my research
Something something Android is Linux 😅
Kinda hard to use your desktop in bed or hiding in the bathroom.
Tablet pornography must be nice.
That seems like someone who made a plan, and then lived out their best evening.
I imagine those tablet Pornhub users probably prepared themselves a nice mixed drink, set out some snacks, and got all cozy in a bathrobe first.
Tablet pornhub sounds like some kind of intentional self care.
Windows grew?
More wankers every year.
What Useragent do AI Bots send?
I'm pretty sure they can filter out the bot traffic. Like, if they know how old you are, they probably know if you're a bot.
By the way, how can a site know your age through mere non logged in access?
You don't have to be logged in because you've got a digital fingerprint.
I would hazard a guess that they're using google analytics to collect this data, and google is creepy and knows everything. Maybe they got you to tell them your age at some point, or they can use the vast amount of other data they have to estimate it with probably-super-creepy accuracy.
Windows with the most popular chrome version to avoid standing out
Is anyone working at a FOSS and federated alternative to pornhub?
The problem with the federated model for porn is that it's easier to get away with hosting illegal content.
Using something like PeerTube is potentially even worse because let's say you unknowingly open a video where someone in it looks of age but technically isn't. You as a user help propagate that content while you have it open. You're not just downloading illegal content at that point. You're actively sharing it to new people.
I'm sure that's a legal grey area that hasn't been explored largely but I would think you would have to actually host the content or have it on your device locally.
In a sense, you are hosting the content. You're retaining a copy (so long as the window is open) and constantly attempting to spread it. It's literally built on bittorrent protocols if I remember correctly, and it's already very well established that you can be held responsible for seeding copyright infringing material, so I see no reason at all they'd give you a pass for CP instead. You may not intend to, but remember, my example was someone who looks of age but is not.
literally webtorrents*
Right, because you're hosting it and distributing it. PeerTube is just like a window to non-local content (except for the local content, obvi).
lemmynsfw.com?
A single instance is not federated by itself. It requires multiple instances to be considered a federation.
Just a little nitpick.
Doesn’t it federate with others? It’s just that everyone blocks it
Yes but the question was for a federated alternative. lemmynsfw is not a federation by itself. It's only a part of a larger federation.
You would need multiple nsfw lemmy instances which can then become their own federation. Or a separate federation software on top of ActivityPub.
So OP was searching for a specific federation software?
A Foss and federated alternative to onlyfans is more achievable I guess, because pornhub nowadays has to verify the owner of the content.
Sounds like a legal and maintenance nightmare
Legal yeah, but it doesn't stop ... thousands? tens of thousands? of random porn sites. There's no shortage of community driven porn at the moment. Federated solutions only seem to pop up when there's sufficient non-legal censorship of community-driven content.
I've seen some federated ones.
love to see windows shrinking
Except it also went up? Looks like only apple dropped.
I remember a time when apple market share was low single digits - just shocked to see 20%
Windows has been getting continuously worse so it's not surprising that those with the income available are continuously willing to spend more to get out of it.
100% agreed
Based on the drop in Safari usage on mobile and desktop, and the increase in Firefox and Opera usage. I'm sort of assuming they swapped over to use the builtin VPN in opera or an extension in Firefox to bypass the blocks.
Under video game consoles, it lists 0.1% for "Other (3DS/PS Vita)". Unless PornHub offers 3D porn that works on the 3DS (do they?!), I refuse to believe even 0.01% would use the 3DS browser in this capacity.
(On the other hand, that's 0.1% of video game consoles, and I can't imagine too many people use their consoles for porn in the first place... Basically I'd love to see absolute numbers for this)
I guess teenagers who do not have access to any device but a 3DS could have a good reason for using it
If they're anything like me, it's the old laptop that you'd install Linux on as an experiment.
And maybe that laptop was only ah... Semi-retired at the time.
My guess is the increase is due to two factors: Linux based vms scraping PH content to create tensor training models for nsfw AI image generators and individuals in the U.S. visiting behind a vpn that’s registering to the client as a Linux device. I’d visit the link but I’m not behind a vpn.
I don't know why your browser would report itself as a linux browser just because it's behind a proxy or VPN
User agent logging is often done by running javascript locally on a machine, so the vpn would just pass the javascript to the local machine on which it would be run, so the data wouldn't be effected that way.
Sometimes TLS fingerprinting is done to try to identify bots and not sure if bots would be included. They probably would be included because if they were blocked, then the javascript catching user would never be run on their machine, although I'm unsure of whether such bots would run useragent fingerprinting javascriot yo try to blend in or block it to avoid unneeded processing.
Or, and hear me out, what if they actually have good engineers and know how to sanitise their analytics? And at the risk of sounding crazy, what if the reason that the Linux share is rising is because it’s genuinely becoming more popular?
Crazy talk, right?
This is the monkey's paw Year of the Linux desktop. I know we're wankers but didn't need reminding!
Who is using chromeos for that?
Kids whose schools set up their chrome books inadequately and who found a way around the strict controls to watch porn.
I don't like YoY share percentage point delta. It's misleading and making it seem like a significant number of Mac users left, although they probably just stagnated while more Windows and Linux users came. I'd rarher see YoY absolute number delta.
"..while more Windows and Linux users came"
I'm very confused about the significant drop in Apple users as well, but I'm not sure that it's purely caused by a userbase increase. E.g. in mobile, for or this big of a change to occur you would need the userbase to increase by 38% and for none of those new users to be iPhone users. I don't feel like that's a realistic YoY increase in users at this late stage.
You saw the comment and verified it. We'll done.
In Hub we trust.
You guys sure are a thirsty lot.
So, Linux doesn't have a general icon and ChromeOS's icon isn't used, what could be an ideal icon/logo for the Linux Kernel, I wonder?
WhatsApp recently pulled support for some older iOS versions and devices, a lot of ppl threw them away and got Androids instead(as they should), I wonder if that's related to iOS's decrease.
Tux. They could've just used Tux.
I think the decrease is mostly due to this.
Some sort of arctic animal I would assume.
Jesus, what’s going on with Android that it’s putting up such high numbers
iOS is only massive in the US, everywhere else, Android has a huge market share.
Japan also has 50-69% (nice) market share depending on the source.
What do you mean? It's a massive mainstream operating system used by the majority of phones in the world.
I get it, I fucking love Android. But still a huge percentage
I really don't see what kind of percentage you were expecting. To me it looks almost exactly like the market share of android in the areas of the world where PH is used.
Well, I'm confused as well. Like, I never ever watched porn on my phone. Only on desktop. But apparently I'm a 6% minority.
Me neither. But I also never watched porn on desktop. I watch porn exclusively on Nintendo 2DS. Isn't that what everybody does?
Lmao in hindsight I probably didn't read the graph correctly. Apparently more people want on desktop. I was looking at the dovosoon by country.
Still, are people watching porn in cafes? Or worse, are they masturbating in public? Hmm...
I think smartphones definitely win when it comes to convenience, accessibility, and ease of use. Even at home I use my phone a whole dang lot for general chill purposes, even though I have bigger and better screens to use.
I can't comment on porn because I genuinely never watch porn of any sort (yes, I'm serious), but I have watched and enjoyed YouTube and Netflix et al on my phone, even at home. I usually prefer a bigger screen but sometimes the portability wins out.
Anecdotally, I only visit PH on my phone and I use incognito mode sometimes, which I'm just guessing would count as a unique visit. Probably a lot of people are doing the same thing, and globally more people run Android than iOS.
Would this data get screwed up by VPNs?
i doubt it. the user-agent is generated by the browser
why do i find this funny.
OS statcounter seems to get to similar numbers, with significant regional differences. Which data source would be more repräsentative and reliable ?
That's not me, I contributed to lower that stat since I'm on detox lol
Which genre is that??
When one person drinks a detox smoothie and then they do other things
Same here tbh, but I never used my Linux device for it in the first place, so....
I switched from Windows to Linux then went back to Windows cause of mutliplayer games and I'm not sure I'm a fan....like its kinda annoying having to udpate my programs individually.
?
Sudo apt update
Sudo apt upgrade
Voilà
I think they meant they're not a fan of Windows and having to update those programs individually...
Back when I used Windows I used PatchMyPC and made it add a daily task.
It updated most of my programs.
I don geddit
It's a French thing, you had to be there.
wdym package manager updates system and apps you just run one command
This pleases the nut.
Nice.
So 2025 is the Linux on mobile year?!! 0.05% !
Do they provide any source on how data is collected ? Does „only technically necessary cookies“ include in this data or is this an opt in only. Is there any method to filter out bot traffic? ( many downloader use an androidTV ID)
I have ph blocked at dns level, what genres our fellow Linux friend enjoy? There is a difference with other os?
I would assume BBT's. (Big Black Titties)
I feel like the math in this headline is off.