Critical hurricane forecast tool abruptly terminated
U.S. Department of Defense announced Tuesday it would no longer process and deliver data essential to most hurricane forecasts
On Monday, the U.S. Department of Defense announced it would immediately stop ingesting, processing, and transmitting data essential to most hurricane forecasts.
The announcement was formalized on Tuesday when NOAA distributed a service change notice to all users, including the National Hurricane Center, that by next Monday, June 30th, they would no longer receive real-time microwave data collected aboard three weather satellites jointly run by NOAA and the U.S. Department of Defense.
The permanent discontinuation of data from the Special Sensor Microwave Imager Sounder (SSMIS) will severely impede and degrade hurricane forecasts for this season and beyond, affecting tens of millions of Americans who live along its hurricane-prone shorelines.
The news on Tuesday sent users across the weather and climate community – including those monitoring changes to sea ice extent in the polar regions – scrambling to understand the rationale behind the abrupt termination. Though not immediately clear why the real-time data was suddenly discontinued, the decision appears to have stemmed from Department of Defense security concerns.
Officials at the National Hurricane Center were also caught off guard by the announcement and are preparing their team for the loss of critical forecast data for the rest of the hurricane season.
https://www.local10.com/weather/hurricane/2025/06/26/critical-hurricane-forecast-tool-abruptly-terminated/Open linkView original on lemmy.world
War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength.
Let’s try again.
Think carefully, surely you can see that two and two is five.
Don’t you agree?
It creates a need that a private company can then fill. It's greed and grift all the way down with these fucks.
Edit: (Bonus fuckery when they sell the existing instruments to said company for a "pay to play" access to information that was historically always free)
AccuWeather, the company is AccuWeather
That already exists. It's called The Weather Channel, powered by Doppler Radar.
Navy still gets the data, NOAA is getting cut off.
Truly clownworld
But navy needs the climate projections from the researchers or they’ll be fucked when hurricanes hit too.
This is a very specialized type of weather satellite, it can see "under" the storm.
Trust that the US Navy has top notch meteorologists in the ranks, probably the people most qualified to interpret this data for thier needs
Having data is great. You can see what is... or was recently. But you need to feed this data into computer models to forecast the future, or a probability distribution about the future. And that's what NOAA has and the navy doesn't.
Why would you think that? I think the USN probably has parity, if not MORE capability than NOAA
Ah, I see you have no experience with the US military. It’s not full of qualified people, only ass kissers.
Hey what we cant see cant hurt us, right, right?!?!?!?
Holy shit, they actually fucked over NOAA.
Fucking why.
They literally do nothing but benefit the world.
I am so tired of this shit, either let me fuck off and live in the woods so I never have to interact with this again or just end everything now, the world they are building isn't worth living in.
Fuck.
Because it will cause major issues, people will demand a replacement, and a private company owned by someone who bribed Trump will swoop in and "save" everyone with a subpar solution that is worse and cost more.
Because the data shows climate change, so it must be filtered.
think about how much more you could charge poor people if they get severely injured by the hurricane
Petty revenge for not agreeing with trump's sharpie forecast.
They get off on hurting people. They want to hurt everyone but themselves, and sucking up to them only delays the harm they will cause to you. They don't care how they're remembered, as long as people keep saying their names.
This is the only thing that could explain Musk's actions of the last several months as a believable rational choice. He realized he is not going to be around to see immortality or brain downloads or whatever, so he has to make his name and image immortal instead.
Of course, there are numerous other reasons that could explain it, many of them personality flaws.
Remember kids, when WFP asked Musk to feed every starving person in the world for a year for just 6 billion dollars, or 2% of his wealth at the time, he gave the money to his own foundation instead.
Why? So AccuWeather can monetize the very same service
You have to wonder why the administration's trying to make Americans less safe. You don't have to wonder that I know why, but you should ask him. Constantly. Loudly.
With this and FEMA being drawn down I'm guessing Trump wants to create cheap real estate for his rich friends to buy up. If you can't rebuild you'll move and take what you can get for the rubble you used to call home.
Killing adult Americans is part of the plan to get the population to trend younger again. However you can take out adult Americans and increase infant Americans will be taken advantage of
And at a high rate of fire.
About project 2025:
Edit: here is the source of the quote, an article from September 2024 https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4907338-heritage-foundation-plan-weather-service/
Huh. Wow. So they actually did project this plan. And it really is about commercialization of weather forecasting and denying climate change. America is so deeply fucked from letting him get elected... ugh.
It's all in Project 2025, and the fact that this isn't known means we're fucking doomed.
People just can't be fucking bothered I guess.
There is a plan, Trump is an idiot but a very useful idiot. If not him it would have been someone else.
All by themselves, weather forecasting satellites justify every dollar put into space programs. The lives saved are incalculable. We are squandering that benefit for no reason whatsoever.
Sure there is a reason.
Cause a big enough catastrophe and you can declare Martial Law.
Officials were caught off guard? What do you mean? Was anybody watching the last election and reading project 2025? None of this is a shock.
Yeah they voted for him but they didn't actually think he'd do those things.
You know what?
Go ham. The south Atlantic coast and the gulf coast voted for this. Now comes the “find out” part. I am genuinely out of fucks to give. Enjoy your hurricanes and the non-response you’ll get from the now-gutted FEMA. See if I fucking care. Have fun machine-gunning your own foot.
Privatize the weather lmao
Just draw where you want it to go with a sharpie ezpz
In lieu of actual vital data, the DOD will be sending out tRump-branded black Sharpies.
This was originally in the DOGE plan. What took so long to process? I've been watching for news on this catastrophic decision.
It's silly to invest in all this expensive technology when you can just look out a window and draw these things with a sharpie.
Apparently hurricanes, which are the only outside force that regularly invades and obliterates American cities on American soil, costing billions in damages, multiple times a year...
... are not as important as these undisclosed "security concerns" that DoD somehow finds more important/immediate.
What's the real story? Protecting Americans from hurricanes is too "woke" or something?
Probably the longstanding GOP goal of privatizing everything. To get public support for that, they first have to cripple the public service.
Ding ding ding
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/07/noaa-project-2025-weather/678987/?gift=ADN5ex8W_PaQmR-s5dSx2Do21FXUbb4d2XVoxOY40Vw
Oh nifty, Project 2025 again, that thing that Trump is totally not following to a T
Why must we live amongst such a vast swath of absolute babbling morons?
Correct, but in the meantime our fuck-wit in chief will just Sharpie in hurricane forecasts when he needs more attention.
Ah, there it is. Kicking climate change under the carpet again, I see.
Ding ding.....we have a winner.
Anything that monitors for data that proves climate change is real is now WOKE and Trump wants to sweep it under the carpet
As ever, the Trump Regime is a colony of dumb and malicious assholes.
Trump is making himself the enemies of farmers and coastal communities alike. If I were an evil overlord, I would want my logistics to be rock solid.
🤦
They think that if they don't look at the hurricanes then they won't make landfall.
Other than this being Putin Puppetry, I have no idea who would think this is good.
We're castrating FEMA and NOAA. What is the benefit?
Can't afford to rebuild? Zillow will take that pesky property of your hands for a fraction of the price it's worth.
That's the benefit. It's a great idea honestly if your goal is to destroy the housing market for short term profits
Wait. We don’t have to sell underwater properties to Aquaman. We can sell everything to Zillow!?
Fuck Florida? Fuck MAGA voters down south? Crash insurance and banking markets? Crash US dollar and raise inflation?
The money saved could go to essential tax cuts for billionaires.
The benefit is that AccuWeather will now sell that same data and profit,big dollar presidential donations are paying off!
Can some one send this mother fucker on his way already?
Why don't people realize Dear Leader (and his Sharpie) is all that's required for ultimately accurate and divinely inspired hurricane forecasting??
Waiting, sadly, for GPS to go back to being obfuscated again. It's bound to happen. Want GPS? You gotta pay.
Seems off topic, I know, but they did this (hurricane) by turning off satellite feeds
Luckily, the EU also has Galileo, and Russia has GLONASS (skeptical about the latter, but it exists).
Nearly every GPS-capable device has access to both of those as well as the US-based GPS.
Yeah, I considered mentioning that there are alternatives, but there was a review just in 2024 by the FCC to see if they were going to continue to allow Galileo to be recieved. And even then I think it's only two channels.
Which tells me the FCC could determine it illegal and force an update, at least to commercial devices like cell phones.
Take this with a grain of salt, its from memory. I would be happy to have someone verify this.
Yep, that is a very real possibility.
What a fucking world we live in.
VPN isn't just for perverts, it works for farmers as well. Seriously, VPN will save many lives from this dumbfuckery.
Get ready for sharpie hurricane forecasting!
Who does this help???
What makes you think this regime wants to help anyone?
Trump just wants to get rid of anything good in America. Keeping people safe is "woke"
AccuWeather... Big dollar doner gets what he paid for!
Any hurricane that comes by surprise will be nuked, not to worry.
Maybe a nuke filled with black sharpies.
Isn't Trump's house in Florida?
One day we will all rejoice in the destruction of that shit hole.
We can only hope he's in it when it goes
Not for long with no hurricane data.
Well, the data won't change the fact that a hurricane is coming or not. Just Trump's ability to react to said hurricane. His house would be gone with or without the data.
Because having less knowledge always works out. Between this and the loss of FEMA, we should get even more "I didn't vote for this". Yes, you did. You just weren't listening.
Stop trying to look for any rationale behind anything this administration does. There is none.
I gues we shouldn't have made fun of moron for thinking Georgia was Alabama. Disrupting climate change tracking is just an added bonus for super petty grudge holder. Prosecutorial immunity for elected officials was a terrible mistake.
It's like people don't like surprises anymore.
This is beyond terrible.
WTF is a hurricane? It's just a storm, get over it.
A storm with heavy rain and extreme winds. A category 5 storm can reach windspeeds of over 157 mph (252 km/h). These things destroy buildings.
It was a joke.
There are no hurricane when there's nothing to predict them. It's just a storm. There's no covid because we don't test for it.
For fucks sake, can this admin get any fucking dumber?
You sure you want to ask that?
They can and will
If you don't know about the hurricane it can't hurt you.
mmm. comment about real estate prices in florida or on how presidential markers will be the new forecast. so many options.
I live in the US and I'm sick of us being in the news as well. But the fact is that the fall of America is big news.
You're free to keep scrolling past articles about the US
That's absolutely fair.
Use ![email protected] rather than ![email protected] if you don't want US-specific news. That's specifically what that community was created for (as well as its predecessor on Reddit, /r/worldnews...which eventually forked into /r/animetiddies due to Reddit drama, but that's another story).
EDIT: Also, I was gonna say "if you want more news from elsewhere, you could also submit it", but I see that a significant chunk of your recent submissions were...on US politics, so...