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Trump, 79, explodes in F-word meltdown as his ceasefire unravels

Donald Trump ripped into Iran and Israel for violating a ceasefire deal within hours of his triumphant announcement.

“You basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f--- they’re doing! Do you understand that?” he told reporters Tuesday morning on his way to the NATO summit in The Hague.

Trump, 79, explodes in F-word meltdown as his ceasefire unravelshttps://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-explodes-as-his-ceasefire-unravels-they-dont-know-what-the-f-theyre-doing/Open linkView original on sopuli.xyz
lemmy.world

Who would have thought that bringing peace to the Middle East would be so difficult?!

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jonnereply
infosec.pub

His obsession with the Nobel peace price is really what's driving all this. He's been willing to do deals nobody else would make just to get that recognition, and it's ironically inflaming more conflict.

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ThePantserreply
sh.itjust.works

The best news I read is that his nomination was withdrawn so now he's extra yippy.

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startrek.website

Pakistan hasn't withdrawn the nomination yet. It was just the Ukrainian who seemed a bit misinformed who withdrew it

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fedia.io

Wait, why would Ukraine do that? Was he just nominated by a random guy or something?

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It was a pretty obvious shot at social engineering, which in the context of orangeboi, is generally a fairly shrewd way to play it

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lemmy.world

If he wanted a Nobel peace prize he should have just committed genocide. That's what most of the others did.

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lemmy.world

Though Henry Kissinger is pulling a "Spiders Georg" and really skewing the numbers there.

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To be fair, geopolitics is complicated. Ever seen The Good Place? I suspect it's pretty difficult to stay totally uninvolved in war crimes as a major world leader. The Doug Forcetts of geopolitics don't do much evil, but they don't do enough good to get peace prizes either.

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midwest.social

I would think truly being a mediator would require not playing both sides of the negotiating table for your own ego inflation, but I’m no global affairs expert

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This is why he's in the white house and we're not /s

you know you're not supposed to tell me you're playing both sides right?

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His obsession with the Nobel peace price is really what's driving all this

Nah, it's much more simple than even that: he's just a malignant narcissist and a colossal idiot who happens to have a talent for grifting*. Everything he's ever done has been because of that combo.

*ETA: as well as the wealth and connections to play life on story mode from day one, of course

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lemm.ee

Many tried and failed, but now it's Trump. So it will fail spectacularly.

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Many say that it fails more beautifully than any other president. No one fails better than Trump.

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Only those not living under a rock for the past 50 years

Or those not being all coked up for the past 50 years

Or those not busy with Epstein kids

Or those...

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piefed.social

WE understand that. Someone deluded themselves into thinking that a couple bombs would magically produce peace. This is not a Harry Potter movie, so Explosio Nocturna did not work.

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SippyCupreply
feddit.nl

We have the biggest bombs, the best bombs. Everybody says we have the most powerful, beautiful, you know they can't make them in other countries these other places they don't even have water. Can you believe that? Imagine that no water but bombs, they make bombs. So we send our biggest and best, the most powerful military in the world, and they say oh no Mr President oh Mr Trump won't you please please not send the bombs but that's what it is folks. No water. And they're begging me, every day they're sending someone to beg at my feet for a ceasefire and I say ok! No more shooting. And that's how it works folks.

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-- Trump response when asked about how the tariff situation was going.

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I don't know... When I was a teenager, Hermione made me Explosio Nocturna.

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lemmy.world

“You basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f— they’re doing! Do you understand that?” he told reporters Tuesday morning on his way to the NATO summit in The Hague.

Everybody has understood that for decades.

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

And now Trump has understood it for half a day. Being the way he is, this is a "Nobody knew..." moment.

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lemmy.world

The odds of us experiencing a loser of this caliber again in our lifetimes is pretty slim.

Interestingly enough, the odds of me ever having a shred of respect for this country again in our lifetimes is also pretty slim.

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lemmy.ca

The entire admin and half the country are losers of this caliber, you're drowning in them. Nice thought though.

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lemmy.today

Closer to a third. Maybe two thirds if you include the lazy fucks that couldn't be bothered to stand in line for a few minutes.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

What blows my mind is even in states like Washington, California and Oregon, which utilize mail-in voting, only about 75% of registered voters participated. How hard is it to check some boxes and fling the letter in the mailbox?

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I think people are underestimating how big a loser Trump is. Like the people supporting him are losers, but it takes quite a bit to approach his unprecedented levels of loserhood.

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Unfortunately people like Greg Abbott, Ron DeSantis, JD Vance, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and more still exist.

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They'll have to have the cannon custom made.

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sh.itjust.works

Peoples fucking dying

Cannot print fuck

He said fuck for fuck's sake

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Lyra_Lycanreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

It's a word. I'm getting broken down by the amount of censorship on the internet, particularly Youtube. Their guidelines only state to withhold any uncensored cursing or content deemed only suitable for mature audiences for the first fifteen seconds, to avoid being tagged as mature and the video viewcount and profit largely reduced. A very small price to pay for freedom of human expression and life. But channels take this much further than the relatively mild corporation's rules, such as:

  • Censoring or obscuring all expletives deemed by Christianity to be foul
  • Censoring or obscuring all words describing a sensitive subject (e.g. rape, sex, sexual, abuse, murder, suicide, kill)
  • Censoring any moment in which a being is subject to any form of impact, whether accidental, assault or police abuse

These actively block and suppress conversing about real issues, leading to more harm, more assault, and more silent victims. Every time the word suicide is censored signifies to me that another person has committed suicide because they weren't heard. This has been proven to be correlation.

Censorship of human life, experience and expression not only insults my personal ideals of life and freedom, but actually causes more harm, and I cannot forgive that.

What makes swear words so offensive? It’s not their meaning or even their sound. Is language itself a red herring here?

Being Silenced: The Impact of Negative Social Reactions on the Disclosure of Rape

Censorship of words like ‘rape’ and ‘sexual assault’ on social media hurts victims more than it stops bad actors

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midwest.social

Channels aren't doing that because they want to. YouTube has a lot of rules, some of which are written down. They do it because YouTube has flagged them in the past for demonetization on the issue, and they can't afford to do that too many times. It can also impact your ability to do livestreams.

It's on top of a pile of issues that's making YouTube content creation non-viable for everyone.

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It's a bigger issue of so few platforms for people to use and reach an audience.

But it all comes down to corporations are causing people to unnecessarily censor themselves. It's a weird thing where corporations have a power they shouldn't to control what people are saying.

I somewhat understand content creators who make money. But I don't understand the people who comment and don't make money off of it censoring themselves so a company can make more ad revenue.

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This is why I love Any Austin. Whenever he says "fuck", he puts a bleep somewhere around that time, sometimes a couple of seconds off.

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some day we're gonna run out of letters in the alphabet for "*-word", just say whatever, it's the meaning that counts

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d00eryreply
lemmy.world

I'll be honest, I don't mind swearing on social media as I'm an adult but I don't think there's any need to swear in the news media.

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d00eryreply
lemmy.world

Just because he has no decorum doesn't mean everyone has to follow suit.

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sopuli.xyz

Idk about you guys but I never said fuck and now I say fuck all the time because the prez does it

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Anyone can swear, but I don't see why we need to have swear words in the news. Just because the biggly orange guy thinks it's appropriate to swear, doesn't mean we need to lower the standard in the press.

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piefed.social

ICE will just round up some more brown people to make him feel better.

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lemmy.world

Not that I don't like to see him miserable but if saying fuck counts as a meltdown, I meltdown every time I speak. Honestly, its not even a signifier of stress, its more likely to signal your being genuine

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lemmy.world

How many times can you recall a president cursing when talking to reporters? Even Trump doesn't curse much in his tweets or press briefings. So it's definitely notable.

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DrSoapreply
lemmy.world

It's one of those things. When you can't find a better way to express your frustration as an educated person than resorting to dropping f-bombs, it is indicative of a low vocabulary.

Anyone else with a basic high-school education thrust into the spotlight would find a way to express themselves and their thought in a clear and cohesive way.

But they are obviously the ones who don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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There was a time when I would've agreed with you. I still endeavour to this day to avoid profanity.

Today, however, I don't agree that using "fuck" is at all an indicator of a low vocabulary (except in the case of overuse, but that's true of any word). There are emotions that civil people aren't supposed to feel, so we need words that we aren't supposed to use to express them.

Fuck can be used to great effect, and should be.

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Yea. Its not that he used the word "fuck". It is in the context of working with Netanyahu, then seeing that Netanyahu has no real respect for Trump or the US military as long as they support his wars. So Trump gets flustered realizing his Israeli buddy has no respect for the US and then says "fuck". It just hows Trump has no international relations abilities and he doesn't know what is going on.

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lemmy.world

There are no words that can express the same as curse words. Otherwise, we wouldn't use them as much.

Words are words. And they are used to communicate. I don't understand the American panic about this small set of words. They are words like any other.

Non-american countries also have some people that panic about curse words, but I don't think they match the level of panic of Americans.

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Your leaders curse to reporters? Lol, yea. I'm American but I am a dual citizen from Europe. No one is panicking here, but I appreciate your weird rant.

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Ohhhh buddy , most of europe prides itself on their vast vocabulary of curse words/sentances and how they can say fuck your family in 50 different ways

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Context matters. Someone using profanity more often than they otherwise would in the same context is generally a signifier of stress or excitement.

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D_Creply

For fucks sake, me too.

(I apologise for the above meltdown)

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Fucking hell, I'm having a meltdown in this very sentence.

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Eh... "Fuck" is just a filler word for most New York Natives in general.

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Glidereply
lemmy.ca

nationalism gave us the hubris to think we were impervious to fascism.

Which is absurd, as the fascist nations were overwhelmingly nationalist first and foremost.

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fedia.io

Okay, 250 years isn't too bad. France's last government started in the 60s. And they've had a lot. But that's France. The US has the longest lasting fully used constitution in the world. It's just that a lot of it has been ignored over the years.

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Most MAGA don't care about women anyway. They view women as sub-human. Even the MAGA women defend this.

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lemmy.world

It turns out conservatives are offended by sex, not sexual assault. They're historically pretty okay with that one.

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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

Great point. Trump has never once showed a hint of empathy and only sees things from his own perspective.

Whether he's talking about sexually assaulting women or using the military to assault another country, it's all very similar to him.

Trump's many obvious deficiencies make him one of the least qualified people to negotiate peace with other countries.

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Oddly he sounds like my ex wife - completely without empathy unless its about her pain- which should command center stage at all times.

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Whoever produced The Apprentice should commit seppuku in atonement for helping Trump build his platform.

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lemmy.world

If Obama had said “fuck” in office, wouldn’t have been 24/7 for two weeks on Fox News?

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He would have been impeached and we would never have heard the end of the outrage from Fox.

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lemmy.ca

At some point even he has to realize that he's a joke right?

Like even his syphillitic brain can't not see what's right in front of him forever, can it?

To other world leader's he's a joke. Someone who they can stroke his ego to get whatever they want, and then ignore him entirely and do whatever they feel like anyway.

"Israel..don't drop those bombs" Israel had no intention of listening to him. Russia had no intention of listening to him. They make his sense of self importance skyrocket and so they say whatever they need to say to get him to do whatever THEY want him to do, and then don't listen to him the rest of the time.

Is he really this fucking stupid?

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Hope isn't the right word for me. But I would very deeply enjoy Trump swinging from a noose of his own make.

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Oh I never knew that had a name.

I love doing that to pathological narcissists, whenever safe.

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aceshighreply
lemmy.world

Heh he’ll get replaced quickly, and a new cult leader will rise. I wonder who it’ll be. Vance and trumps family aren’t popular, neither is Musk. But then again, in a dictatorship popularity isn’t important.

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SkyezOpenreply
lemmy.world

He's the one that cultivated the cult of personality. Some have tried to use it, but trump still has the final say on everything. I imagine if Trump disappeared, the base would fracture.

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

Fracture to where?

We already know conservatives are literally incapable of voting for anyone that doesn't have an "R" next to their names. They may not worship the next one the way they worship Daddy Trump, but they'll all 100% vote for whoever it is.

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Fracture to irreverence where the component pieces eat each other. There is no future for the party after Trump except as various fringe groups claiming to be the "true" party.

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In a dictatorship, the rise to power is extremely dependent on being popular. Once established though, not so much. I'm guessing JD Vance, Musk, or some other Trump family member would not have sufficient following and the whole thing would topple over, as is fairly common after dear leader dies.

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Anasreply
lemmy.world

My copium is that to me it looks like it’s not the party’s cult, it’s Trump’s cult, and it will collapse without him at the helm.

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

Lol. I've been experiencing the conservative cult for far too long to believe this.

There will be another one and conservatives will flock to him. And now that the bar is permanently and extremely lowered by Trump, you can expect him to be pretty fucking bad.

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You've been experiencing a cult of an idea. The Republican party has transformed into a cult of personality with no clear successor.

There are cults of personality that have successfully transformed into a cult of ideas. Mormons and Scientology are examples. However, in each case, the person at the center fostered a clear successor, and that successor was able to make it last in the long run by centering around ideas. Scientology still has that successor around (David Miscavige), but there isn't really a specific person in charge of the LDS. Not in the same way. Their leadership is now interchangeable, but replacing their ideas is a harder sell.

Trump has no successor, and isn't interested in fostering one. It's not JD Vance; nobody respects him, including Trump. It's not Musk; he made the mistake of trying to be more popular than the boss, and he's not a natural-born citizen, anyway. It's not Peter Thiel; he prefers to be the power behind the throne. It's not any of Trump's adult children; they're nothing but spoiled rich kids. It's not any of the people in his cabinet; they're all plebes using booze and cocaine to get through the day. It's not Tucker or Matt Walsh or any of the other right-wing commentators; they'd just eat each other trying to get on top.

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Oh, no, they'll devolve into infighting. There won't be enough shared ideals and actions to sustain Republicans as a political force. There will be fringe groups that linger on for a while. After almost three centuries, there are still two people left claiming the Shaker tradition; that's a group that forbids sexual relations even for procreation, so you can see how they'd have trouble gaining new members. But they're not a religious group that anyone really cares about, either. That's how MAGA will go eventually.

See also, Knitting Cat Lady, who is a former member of the Children of God cult, then the US Army, and then got a masters in organizational psychology around cults.

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Yeah, to anyone that may be new to all this, I promise you and will bet my life savings on it, that conservatives will memory-hole Trump after he's gone and be 100% onboard with the next criminal dunce the Republican party shits out.

I watched them do it with Bush Jr. We know how stupid conservatives are. That isn't changing anytime soon. They have not, nor will they ever, learn anything.

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At some point even he has to realize that he’s a joke right?

Nah. Narcissism is a hell of a drug.

Is he really this fucking stupid?

Yes. Trump definitively answered the question of whether a complete, total, utter, absolute, unconditional moron can fail upwards and be fabulously wealthy.

This is what generational wealth in an ultra-capitalist society with a different justice system for the wealthy can produce. A monster. A stupid fucking monster.

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At some point even he has to realize that he's a joke right?

Like even his syphillitic brain can't not see what's right in front of him forever, can it?

Is he really this fucking stupid?

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Etterrareply
discuss.online

You fail to understand how narcissism works. He's literally incapable of believing anything negative about himself.

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I wish I was that way honestly. I almost can't believe anything positive about myself.

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lemmy.world

But he asked them so nicely to not violate the ceasefire on his social media site! He said they'd only do a "Plane Wave"!

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lemmy.world

It is so weak that he expects the world to read his xitter as a news source and that he has to sign it to affirm that he is in fact (in all caps) THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Also where the heck is my thank you for my attention to this matter. Such an utter buffoon.

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Dude has Netanyahu's phone number, but he's screaming into the void of the internet like some pleb? Yeah, definitely not a good look.

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The problem is everyone else clearly. If only they just listen to him everything would be fine. Why is everyone so stupid!!? Why is no one listening to big brain??!

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This is how you tell me that you haven't been raised by narcissists without telling me that you haven't been raised by narcissists.

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lemmy.world

Michael Scott does get some character development and eventually moves on with his life. You can't say the same about the "Michael Scott" of the White House.

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lemmy.world

Almost like announcing something on "truth" social doesn't automatically make it the truth. They probably didn't even know anything about a cease fire until his post.

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It's an old grift. If you don't want to actually do something, but you still want credit for doing it, then just say that you're doing it. Many people will be tricked.

It's the same reason the Nazis called themselves "socialists" despite never supporting socialism.

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I wanna take a moment to appreciate the headline which takes special care to note his advanced age directly. Big "old man yells at cloud" energy.

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Someone should probably explain to this moron that a tweet saying, "We'll stop bombing them if they stop bombing us" doesn't count as a "ceasefire deal".

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It's a Good Thing he WASNT wearing a Tan Suit while dropping F bombs! THAT would have been Disrespectful!

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Didn't they settle everything in the middle east under his first term? The Saudis sent Trump's inept, unqualified, security risk son in law nepotism hire Jared Kushner billions to manage afterward to get rich from to celebrate the long lasting peace they negotiated /s

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lemmy.world

wait, but it does, I just watched it, you just have to skip to the last 10 secs of the almost 4min vid

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yeah the daily beast really fucking wanted me to watch a segment of Fox and Friends for that. kind of a letdown after all the hype.

I did enjoy hearing reporters just vomit verbal diarrhea at him.

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Almost like the US hasn’t done anything fucked up to piss them off for decades…

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I'm good with the media constantly reminding people how old he is. He was always dim, and he's getting dimmer.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Muslims and Jews have been fighting each other for nearly 3000 years.

If anyone thinks they're going to be the one person who can stop that conflict, they're absolutely delusional.

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CoopaLoopareply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

In this case I meant the literal definition of Muslim, not just Islam. The Persians were fighting Judeans back in 500 BC over the same land. It's still the same conflict, just under a different name millenia later.

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I meant the literal definition of Muslim, not just Islam.

And what is that supposed to be?
The English definition is a follower of Islam 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

If you take the translation from Arabic "someone in submission to the will and law of God” then I don't see how that would not apply to religious Jews as well.

So it would really help your argument if you could provide a source that shows any significant meaning of Muslim outside the context of Islam.

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“You basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f— they’re doing! Do you understand that?”

Yes, we all understood that for a long time, and not just with this conflict - ironic you would say they "don't know what the f- they're doing", though. Who would have thought diplomacy requires more than "I'm the 'big guy', so they'll naturally listen to anything I have to say". Who would have thought these long standing conflicts would require more than saying "let there be peace" to solve.

We all, nameless citizens of the world, have known it for a long time - even though we can't do much about it - about Israel/Iran, about Russia/Ukraine, and so on. While you, toddler living in a golden bubble that you are, have been focusing exclusively on golfing and how to perfect the art of the grift, as well as securing golden parachutes from your grifter friends each time you manage to bankrupt a casino. So now you get to the big chair and think the chair is what gives you power, when in fact it was most of your predecessors' hard work that gave so much power to the POTUS chair. The same power you're now imploding.

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At this point I'm wondering if there really was a ceasefire.

Everything this guy says is a lie until proven otherwise.

If I were a betting man, it seems very likely he just made the whole thing up. Perhaps he pitched the idea and was turned down by either Israel or Iran (probably both). Went to social media to proclaim his victory. Leading both countries to attach each other to show the whole thing was bullshit.

Let's not forget, he claimed he was the lynch pin behind the India and Pakistan ceasefire, only to have both sides say he wasn't involved at all.

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I would not characterize this as a meltdown, it's just an unhinged guy going on and on about "MSDNC" (MSNBC) and fake news and how awesome the B-2 pilots are and how it was "dark with no moon" for the Iran bombing (as if that fuckin matters for modern weapons systems) and so on and so forth.

They want to make him sound crazy (which he is) but come on, there are actual real problems to deal with, which are masked a little by calling this particular episode a meltdown. So he said the word fuck, who cares

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Okay, but he tweeted out a peace deal between two countries he didn't consult, and he actually got upset that it didn't work

Come on. Let me have this one. This is the funniest thing to happen this year

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I'm damn tired of how so many in this country just expect us to go along with this FARCE of a presidency.

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Oh Donnie, you poor unfortunate bastard. Why does governing have to be so difficult? Sad face and tiny violin.

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LOL is he an idiot for thinking it mattered if it was dark or am I one for thinking it probably hasn't mattered for at least twenty years? (approx 1:50 timestamp in the embedded video)

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The Media: "Coming up, more on our top story--Tr*mp's brilliant deal! But first, the latest on Hollywood celebrities who you'll never meet and who don't affect you at all!"

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Odd place to note his age? I mean, he's been a dumbfuck for years, nothing new because he's old.

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feddit.org

The primary reason for the war is done. Israel must choose between ceasing aggression, endless bombardment with no end goal, or deploying ground troops. All but a ceasefire is untenable. Trump is right, somehow. Iran's retaliative aggression will subcede quickly.

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primary reason for the war

The non-nukes & the trivial deep penetration damage?

I'm not sure that's what Israel meant as the primary reason when they claimed it was the primary reason (since they had all the proof possible to the contrary). It silly to try to solve a bs claim & expect the side that brought forward that bs claim to suddenly be satisfied by the resolution of bs they manufactured. Nothing had changed.

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