Spyke

Have you seen how the military votes? They already signed up.

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lemmy.zip

Facts, but there were also women and people of color that voted for Trump

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Any minority that supports trump will regret it eventually. White men are the missing piece

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We still need to have that conversation, specifically the influence of the massive propaganda machine that control nearly half the media-watching eyeballs (viewership).

We've seen our own relatives get radicalized, to no end that serves the public (or their social relationships). So what do we do to counter this wealth fueled monster?

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We've just shown in November that Americans can be made to elect a literal Hitler, knowing what he intends to do. And even though the Democrats made some mistakes, they did run a solid campaign. Their losses in the battleground states were by razor thin margins.

One factor is the giant far-right propaganda machine.

The other, as noted by the boring British economist guy (looking... Richard J. Murphy) is that too many people live in precarity for the status quo party (the neoliberal party in whatever country -- Democrats here in US, Labor in UK) to draw voters. Essentially, when you're going to starve under King Log, then King Heron starts looking good.

And we saw this in the elections near November 2024, far-right parties were advancing in the EU. They started going the other way after Trump and MAGA were in power in the US, mask-off and painting a ghastly picture of what a King Heron reign looks like.

The cure for the latter is to go way progressive (e.g. FDR's New Deal). In this case, go far more progressive than the likes of AOC or Bernie Sanders are offering (the rest of the Democratic party doesn't like them much).

But the cure for the former is unknown. Not known to me, anyway, and not discussed even on far left media (e.g. Breadtube) possibly because they don't have answers either. Mind control does work, even if it's not as beamy and instant as it is in sci-fi. And if we can't counter it, we'll have to discover through suffering and death why we don't use it. And that assumes we have time before one of the other imminent great filters proves unnavigable.

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lemmy.world

There’s always the chance of friendly fire and other mishaps during the chaos of war

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All we need to do is to take the template of the ICE deportation emails and then change it to be "Selective Service System" along with Trump's "Make America Great Again" images and email them to conservatives. Let's see how quickly they change their tune.

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aussie.zone

I reckon there's plenty of abhorrent MAGA women that are capable of fighting as well.

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Lol. That reads like it's an Onion article. The poor dears.

Women in the "alt-right" "are constantly harassed by low level anonymous trolls trying to put us in our place," self-described "Ethno Nationalist" Tara McCarthy wrote on Twitter Sunday, in a moment of revelation that was well-known to basically anyone else

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And while the military is too busy warring with Iran and whoever else that decides to back Iran, it makes for the perfect opportunity for the people to rise up against the government at home.

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Do you know what the truest expression of conservative American values and bravery is?

Human wave attacks against machine gun nests.

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Unfortunately, they want you to be young and full of promise. The greatest sacrifices are honored most. Fucking mental cases, if you asked me.

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lemmy.world

US still has no business fighting Iran tho... It's on the other side of the world.

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Hopefully their mobility scooters are four-wheel drive. And forget solar power, charging, let them hump gas cans for Generators.

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I'm not human anyway!

Go get em! Patriots!!!!

Send me a dried out arm or leg or something to remember you by!

I remember when my friends came back from Iraq in the 00s and told me about their co-marines ripping veins out of living people and purposefully blowing up homes with civilians! And they got rewarded and respect!!!

5 eyes. World order. World Mafia. Legal Modern Mafias.

I know people that work real crime and it's the exact same game. Life doesn't matter. I know how that game works.

It's all the game mainstream or street its all the same heartless dogs raping humanity.

Buy guns. Learn to be heartless, if you aren't playing by "the game" you aren't anything but a pawn. Wreck your local gang leader they same as you protest politicians. Wreck your local politician the same you should wreck the local human traffickers.

You will learn fast anyway if you have a strong soul.

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sh.itjust.works

I'm there!!!

Right after you go to the front line between Ukraine and Russia.......

The real problem here is that they haven't marketed it properly. What you want to do is call it an exercise in "preserving democracy". This would get all of these new anti-war people on board with providing endless weapons and billions upon billions of dollars to a war that we have absolutely NO business being part of!

It's all about the optics with those that are easily manipulated into supporting war.

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Ukraine and Russia wasn't started by Biden. This one however was a deliberate choice by Trump for direct US action.

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TBH, if I had to be drafted, I’d feel 1000x better in Ukraine than Iran. Invading Iran would be like fighting against Ukraine in their straight up war of conquest, except even stupider.

Not that I want either.

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sh.itjust.works

Do I need to point out that this is also the logic they used on liberals who were pressuring Biden into giving more weapons to Ukraine.

Double standards are never good.

I should also point out that most, if not all the people who were against supporting Ukraine in the war are also being consistent in being against this attack against Iran. So this is also a straw man.

Politics team sporting is so fucking tiresome at this point.

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sh.itjust.works

Im not equating anything Im pointing out that if this was flawed logic when MAGA used it against liberals it is still flawed logic to use it against MAGA.

Also pointing out that the anti-war faction of MAGA has remained very consistent in their anti war stance so there’s basically no one supporting this attack. So the people who this post is supposed to be talking to don’t really exist.

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sh.itjust.works

Snap! a whole two examples, I guess I’ve been shown. must be liberals falseflagging all over X and Reddit that I see condemning this strike. Nevermind that MTG is openly condemning this and even Bannon questioned it, so there two examples to counteract these two.

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lemmy.world

I provided proof of what maga supporters are actually supporting, but let me guess fake news since it doesn't support your narrative? Very cool.

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lemmy.world

What’s tiresome is rebuttals that are nothing more than appeals to hypocrisy that also conveniently ignore the correct insinuations this meme makes.

No. You did not need to point anything out.

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sh.itjust.works

This wasn’t even a rebuttal. Just pointing out that whatever this is saying it is not a reflection of reality.

The move has been incredibly unpopular with his most loyal followers and you could argue he won the elections thanks to increased minority support. What insinuation is there here that isn’t completely incorrect?

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lemmy.world

This move has been incredibly unpopular with his most loyal followers

Any source for that? I'm very curious who is most loyal followers are and what they have to say about it

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God more of this. Ukraine and Russia wasn't started by Biden. This Iran strike was a deliberate choice by Trump deploying US troops in a US operation. If Iran retaliates against the US because this was a US operation then that's Trump who started the war.

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I should also point out that most, if not all the people who were against supporting Ukraine in the war are also being consistent in being against this attack against Iran.

I entirely doubt this is the case. Trump suckers love Russia and Israel because Trump does, so they would be against supporting Ukraine and for attacking Iran.

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