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Dozens attend 'Hetero Awesome Fest' in Idaho

BOISE, Idaho — A minor confrontation broke out at the controversial "Hetero Awesome Fest" on Saturday when a protester took the stage and began singing a pro-LGBTQ+ song before being removed.

According to several livestreams of the event, including those from Old Street Saloon, the incident occurred during the two-day festival held on June 20-21 in Cecil D. Andrus Park, directly across from the Idaho State Capitol. Mark Fitzpatrick, owner of the Old State Saloon and organizer of the event, rushed the stage and took the microphone from the man after about a minute of singing.

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I grew up in Idaho. Can confirm, that's basically the whole population.

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sopuli.xyz

Heteros cant be pro lgbtq+ now?

Should rename it to bigot festival. Cant call it hetero with all the closest gays it attracts.

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I went to a kid's birthday party the other day. There was a little girl (maybe 4y/o?) there who had been to another party earlier in the day but left before that party had cake.

The second that cake was mentioned she starts wandering around going, "Can I have cake?" to anyone who would listen.

"Can I have cake? Can I have cake?" I was told someone had cake and I'll be damned if I don't get some immediately.

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lemmy.ml

That whole article is infuriating... WHAT WAS THE SONG!!

but seriously, this article paints such a sad sad picture for them

The festival, which drew roughly 30 to 50 people at any given time on both Friday and Saturday (at a park...in the state capitol.... it was just people wandering around wondering wtf was going on lol)

"He sang a song with lyrics that go against our values," Fitzpatrick said... "This is yet another example of lies and deceptions from the Pride community. That’s what they are: liars and deceivers. They do it to victimize children. It’s pathetic and evil."

like, ffs. That was such an insane comment to make after someone sings a song you don't like, but then you find out the rest of his "events"

various events, including "Beers for Breeders" gatherings, Conspiracy Theory Trivia Night, where patrons can win an AR-15 rifle, Christian singles events, Bible study sessions, and gatherings for flat-earthers.

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lemmy.world

so its an event for closeted gay men, to be proud of their facade, and network/hook up with other closeted gay men. who, like them, likely have just as much to lose if they got caught. so they know to keep it on the DL.

i wonder how much cum was swapped at this event from one dude to another. i know it aint zero. im gonna guess at least one full gatorade bottle.

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Laserreply
feddit.org

Wrong, it was totally straight and not gay at all, because everyone said "no homo" before and after doing what you described. Just dudes having a good time

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I can recommend the whole album that track comes from, too. It rocks just as hard as this. Maybe this is more to their hetero tastes.

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This reminds me of a straight pride event titled "Hetero Pride" that was organized in Finland way back in 2013. One of the organizers was a deputy regional councillor and Finns Party member. He claimed how society and the media over-emphasized homosexuality, calling it "homozation". He also claimed how it was hard to defend the traditional family model without being labelled homophobic and racist.

The event was held near the Parliament House in Helsinki. There were whole a lot more counter-protesters and some came to the event mainly because it was more like "popcorn pride". One of the speakers at the event literally said in his speech how "we don't have anything against homosexuals, but..." and another said something about how "the Bible states that marriage is only between a man and a woman". One speaker was later asked about "what privileges do gays have these days", and he just replied "I have to be honest, I can't say anything about that".

"The tiger can't change its stripes." The organizer mentioned later posed in a picture with five other men who made a Nazi salute – one of them was Seppo Lehto, an infamous Neo-Nazi. He also made a Nazi salute himself in another picture, this time wearing a Hitler mask. When called out, he said "I'm not in that picture. I wasn't there. I don't know where these kinds of clips came from." He later admitted being in the picture, claiming how he hadn't made a Nazi salute: "It's just a normal salute with the left hand. The official Nazi salute is with the right hand at a 45 degree angle."

The explanation wasn't enough for the Finns Party, and as a consequence he was fired from the party's regional council because of homophobia. Later he also resigned from the party.

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lemmy.world

I don't see why we don't steal heterosexuality from these dumb fucks and add it to the queer community. Literally make it "OK with people who have preference" against "hates preference" if we stop letting them hide bigotry behind normal things, they can't keep pretending they're not bigots.

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lemmy.today

Just have some delicious drag queen tell them in a husky voice "Babydoll, you see that white triangle hiding in the back on the fancy Pride Flag? That's for all you vanilla-ass straight motherfuckers. You already ON the pride flag. You're part of this shit already! Welcome to the party, it's already going hard, and it's your turn to sing ;)"

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lemmy.world

Random straight white dude here. I'm good with this. If my choices are either be included with the LGBQT+ crowd which also includes straight guys, OR be thought of as part of the hateful group who only includes themselves?

I'd rather be part of the LGBTQ+ group. My view has always been you be you, and let others be others. When you start hating others for being themselves, you're probably the problem. Unless that other person is a nazi or pedophile. Because fuck those guys.

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They already have issues finding partners, because no shit, i don't want a bigot or nazi as a partner too. So they is already a natural selection pressure on them which reduces their numbers significantly over the next few generations, if we keep it up!

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WesDymreply
mastodon.social

@Postmortal_Pop Pretty sure that's already part of it. In the original Pride flag, the colours had meanings, and none of them were either exclusionary or definitional; they all applied equally to straight people, or anyone. It was always meant to be inclusive; hell, that's why we use a rainbow. All-colour is a visual metaphor for all people.

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Yeah but we need to really sell it. I'm tired of these people pretending they have a culture, we need to take away any hint of ambiguity in the discourse. Literally put a hetero banner and marchers right in the middle of every parade like it's not the default but instead another choice.

We're not fighting them on an ideological front, we're fighting them on a tolerance front, so we need to take their every shingle ideal away until there's nothing they can rally behind except for blond hate of the other.

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Why the hell does the link just redirect me to their YouTube channel?

Edit: Seems to do that only with EU countries, other countries' IPs work. Probably don't want to deal with privacy protection.

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gedaliyahreply
lemmy.world

Unfortunately, a lot of local American news sources have opted out of serving pages to the EU for privacy reasons. Kind of disturbing what that means for Americans.

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I walked through that not realizing what it was. I saw a bunch of kids bouncy houses and there was some terrible country music on a stage. Friends and i were like what is this pitiful conservative day in the park bs and kept walking. We didn’t notice any anti pride stuff but just the vibe was pitiful maga people with vendor tents but i didn’t even see a maga flag either. We were just passing through boise for the first time and got beers nearby. Then a friend saw it on front page of Reddit after we left Boise and we were like holy shit that’s what it was

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lemmy.world

Can someone check if the active number of hinge users went up during this event?

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sh.itjust.works

Why Hinge? Are you thinking of Grindr?

Also, dozens of people isn't enough to make a significant blip.

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lemmy.today

I can't imagine those heterosexuals. They're probably fucking right now. Disgusting!

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lemmy.world

Hey, we're just normal people trying to live our lives! Don't judge us!

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altphotoreply
lemmy.today

Don't lie, I've seen the pornos on porn hub. I even know of all the sexual clubs you guys have. I can't believe they let you guys have babies. You guys are Lewed! Totally. Even at work I know everyone is totally naked underneath.

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Fine. I guess I can accept you all. But a handshake is close enough. Don't be tricking me into a hug. I know what you guys are packing.

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This sounds like, in the best case, it’d be like one of those Christian alternative-rock festivals, organised to demonstrate that you don’t need the Devil’s music to have fun, where you have bands playing watered-down, Jesused-up versions of punk/emo/metal and some dad in Vans and a studded belt taking the mike between bands to tell everyone that the raddest thing is to obey your parents and abstain from drugs and premarital sex.

A more likely scenario, though, would involve this being to some extent an anti-wokeness hate rally, with conspiracy theories about how the foundations of Western Civilisation are under threat from the gays and communists and, of course, (((those people))).

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When evangelicals try to reach young people by sounding cool, it's worse than root canal. "Get down and boogie with Jeezus, he's a totally awesome dude!" 😆😆😆

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He also said he received death threats for his views about what he called the "overt sexuality" he sees in Pride events and people who identify as LGBTQ+.

The Old State Saloon has hosted various events, including "Beers for Breeders" gatherings.

My how the turn tables.

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fedia.io

Well now I want to know what the song was.

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"I love you Mr. Hole." Him, Digbar, and Alex Schor are kinda great ngl. Digbar was my number 3 artist on Spotify wrapped.

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This is the hardest not the onion thing I have ever seen.

The title of the festival. 🤣🤣🤣 I'm fucking dying here. Holy shit.

I spent a summer once in Idaho in my early youth. Hard to describe anything there in terms of "awesome" unless it's beer gut.

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lemmy.sdf.org

I'm a cis white male, but I'll suck some dick to protest this bullshit.

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A party full of people that are so unsure and afraid of their sexuality that they have to gather together and make a point of it to the world that they are really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really not gay, not even a little bit bi, absolutely bit bi at all!

Okay then, hope you guys have fun, then! Don't check what's happening behind the toilets, though!

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pawb.social

I feel like this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but... really, I don't see a problem with these people having this event, and I think the person who got up to sing the pro-LGBTQ+ song was in the wrong here. But let me explain before you crucify me.

It's pride month, and they have anti-LGBTQ+ views. Holding their own event for people with similar views is by far preferable to going and causing problems at pride events, and while I don't agree with their views, I support their freedom to hold them, given they aren't causing problems for others, which it sounds like they weren't.

An LGBTQ+ person "crashing" their event isn't really any different from an anti-LGBTQ+ person crashing a pride event, which I'd obviously have a problem with, so I think it'd be somewhat hypocritical to applaud someone for doing it to these people, however much I disagree with their viewpoint.

Edit: Yep, knew it'd be unpopular. Rather than just downvoting me, though, why not tell me why you disagree?

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I'm against giving hatred and bigotry a platform. It's like saying "let the Nazis have their event, I support their freedom to gather, as long as they're not causing problems for others."

Them gathering is causing problems. We're on the forefront of changing centuries of human rights violations, and tolerating other people's intolerance will only get in the way of real change.

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Edit: Yep, knew it'd be unpopular. Rather than just downvoting me, though, why not tell me why you disagree?

Because I don't even know where to start. The biggest part, I suppose, is that if you give them a space like this, it normalizes the movement. People stop feeling like there is something wrong with disliking the LGBT community, the movement grows as it is no longer stigmatized, and LGBT rights backslide.

Furthermore, holding a "hetero pride" festival during pride month is inherently bigoted as well. Pride month exists because straight people wouldn't let gay people express themselves otherwise. Your idea isn't totally unlike the idea of letting klansmen openly hold festivals during Black History month so they stop harassing black people.

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@MossyFeathers I encourage you to read Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Which, despite the title, is mostly about AVOIDING conflict. He discusses this subject, though not exactly. Cornering people is dangerous and foolish, and an invitation to violence. Unless you're ready to DESTROY someone, just leave them alone.

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But it's pride month, we can let bigots be bigots for a moment. We're already fighting them the rest of the year.

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@MossyFeathers Okay, so what is your alternative proposal? Send them to re-education camps to learn the right way to think (or at least fake it)? Round them and up fire them into the Sun? Maybe put them in concentration camps? What? Let's hear some ideas.

Like it or not, a free world means putting up with other people's shit, and that requires giving them space. Punishing people in what they consider their own space is only going to make things worse.

Don't stoop to your opponents' tactics.

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lemmy.world

To start with your first sentence is stupid and it goes downhill from there. Pride moth exists as a response to being silenced and prosecuted for centuries. Straight people don't need an event to show they deserve to exist because they already run the show and having an event to celebrate as a counter to pride month is just rubbing in historical oppression. Crashing each other's events is nowhere near the same thing due to context.

A hetero celebration event during pride month is like having a confederate celebration on Juneteenth.

That is why you are being downvoted, and nobody else explained because odds are you won't understand and just dig your heels in deeper.

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pawb.social

I think my viewpoint is akin to the Nazi bar analogy. I don't want to drink at a Nazi bar, but I'm glad the Nazi bar exists, because it gives the Nazis somewhere to go that's isolated and away from everyone else. I'd rather these people hold their own event and congregate there than go protest at a pride parade or whatever else they might be doing, and I don't think 'kicking the hornet's nest' by trying to disrupt them is really helping anyone. Case in point, I'd never heard about them before, and wouldn't have if this article hadn't been written, which it wouldn't have been if nobody had crashed the event.

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I'm glad the Nazi bar exists, because it gives the Nazis somewhere to go that's isolated and away from everyone else.

You never EVER give hateful ideologies room to breathe and organize. It spreads like a virus if you don't kill it on the spot.

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I don’t want to drink at a Nazi bar, but I’m glad the Nazi bar exists, because it gives the Nazis somewhere to go that’s isolated and away from everyone else.

What a terrible opinion to have.

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WTF, the Nazi bar analogy wasn't supposed to be in support of the creation of Nazi bars. Are you okay? Did you recently hit your head? What the fuck have you been smoking?

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lemmy.world

Lmfao I made the Nazi sympathizer comment before you posted this one. I really hit the nail on the head, eh?

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pawb.social

Well, to answer your other comment, it's replies like this that made me realize it's just not worth trying to have a discussion with the folks who disagree with me, because I won't change their mind, and they won't change mine. I think you (and the majority of folks replying here) are not considering the simple fact that taking away spaces occupied by people you dislike will not make them go away - it'll just make them try to take over your spaces, instead (hence the Nazi bar analogy).

Regardless, I'm not going to engage any further here. If you want to have a rational discussion, you can DM me and I'll happily discuss it with you. I had my say, everyone else had theirs, and I don't really think there's anything more that needs to be said.

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lemmy.world

It used to be acceptable to wear Nazi attire in public, now it's not. I can see where you're coming from stating that people are going to do what they want, it reminds me of my feelings towards certain drugs being illegal. However I'll stand by my argument that we need to speak up against bigotry and hatred, not prop it up or defend it. I think it's important that not only are these people allowed to organize and gather, but that we actively oppose them and create a hostile environment for them.

I'm not going to DM you because you've already shared the fact that you're unwilling to change your mind. I wonder what your childhood self would say if you shared that you were that closed minded, and brazenly open about the fact that not even facts and logic could convince you to change. As much as I believe in what I say, I won't say that no one can change my mind. I implore you to look inward and be better my guy.

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pawb.social

I didn't say I was unwilling to change my mind; I said that it became clear that it wasn't going to be changed by the people replying. If you want to debate it, my DMs are open, but leave the ad hominem attacks out of it or it'll be a very short discussion.

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You said your mind won't be changed. Using your own words against you doesn't amount to an ad hominem. I'm not going to let you gaslight me into a private discussion despite your insistence; you can be public with your discussion, or you can stop replying, but I'm not taking the bait and playing your game.

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WesDymreply
mastodon.social

@Nurse_Robot I encourage you to read Sun-Tzu's The Art of War, just as one source of the human nature of conflict.

It is dangerous folly to corner people as you seem to be suggesting. Like it or not, people you hate are also human beings, with all the same rights you wish to have. If you seek to deprive them of their own space, they WILL come for yours; indeed, they will have little choice.

You cannot petulantly demand or try to require that people or views you don't like have no peace.

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dhorkreply
lemmy.world

I mean, they are calling it a "Hetero Awesome" event. Which is fine, as straight people are awesome! But so are the gays.

If these folks are so triggered by someone singing a pro-LGBTQ+ song, though, it makes me think it was never about how awesome anyone is in the first place. It seems more to be about "Gays are not awesome like we are" than "We're awesome". See how the message is different?

I bet if a Straight Ally showed up at a Pride event singing a song about how awesome Straight People are, nobody would have a problem with that, as long as it wasn't trying to dunk on some other group in the process.

(Now, that is leading me to wonder what the most "Hetero Awesome" song might be. What song would you pick as the Straight People Anthem?)

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@dhork People forget that 'Pride' is called that because it was a reaction to a culture that tried to shame us. It means, "We are NOT ashamed to be who we really are." Early Pride events were called marches, not parades, and there was little or no fun involved, just unity. And you could be legally fired, evicted, or expelled for participating, and many of us were. We don't forget that.

Some butthurt or very immature RWNJs came up with 'Straight Pride', which they think is hilariously clever.

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You acted like you were being downvoted and no one was willing to have a discussion with you, and then you ignored the vast majority of well spoken, detailed, lengthy replies you got. You're trolling.

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Match!!reply
pawb.social

I think they should be allowed to have this festival and also I think I should be allowed to crash it and fuck a load into the cheating closeted husbands

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@KoboldCoterie Looongtime queer activist here, and I agree with you completely. In fact, the action was an illegal infringement on someone's lawful permit, no matter how sincere. Freedom means -- indeed, REQUIRES -- putting up with other people's shit. Our laws necessarily defend that.

I'm saying all this as an activist and legal asst of more than 40 years. You are legally correct, and I also agree with you morally and philosophically.

Just leave other people alone.

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Lyra_Lycanreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Yep. You're meant to incarcerate or banish people you don't like. Going to where they congregate to attack or shame them is a very unwise move. Let them have their little groups, away from normal people

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If they are congregating to promote hate and bigotry then going to attack and shame them is a wise move, even if they try to pretend their congregation is for something positive. An easy we to tell is that it is pretending to be positive is if the 'celebration' is a reaction to a group that has been discriminated against trying to celebrate who they are.

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