People do risky/painful things all the time if they want what's on the other side. In fact it's kinda the whole thing with the "to be is to suffer" vibe.
You don't HAVE to get kicked in the nuts to make a baby any more than you "have to" kiss your partner. But it's called foreplay and it's pretty common?
The woman who birthed my child didn't remember anything of the actual process, the pain is so bad the brain just kinda blocks it out after the fact apparently. I've read this is fairly common. One thing I do remember is how bad my hand hurt after all that squeezing, I needed like a whole two ibuprofen to fix it, talk about killer.
Just be glad you're not a Huichol who (allegedly) tied a rope around the father's testicles for the mother to pull during childbirth to share the pain...
I believe it's a hormone thing because otherwise nobody would have a second kid. Apparently the hormones kick in and make you forget the pain while also giving you a big hit of dopamine so that you connect having a kid to being happy.
Oxytocin is a big one, but I'm struggling to remember the others. I remember that one cuz of a psych class where the professor brought it up as an event that mothers would associate as having some of the highest levels of it. Its considered the bonding hormone, so makes sense we'd bond with our babies so drastically to keep us motivated to care for them after they ripped our lower body apart lol
women's brains literally give them amnesia regarding the pain of childbirth, so they want another because they aren't traumatized and don't really remember the negative side because it'd be evolutionarily disadvantagous to be averse to procreating
getting kicked in the nuts has so such evolutionary pressure, so male brains don't help out when it happens lol
Yeah people get played by their biological urges and evolutionary psychology throughout the entire process. Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested, and this is theorized to be to prevent the parents from producing another baby in quick succession who takes attention from baby #1.
Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested
As someone who has taken care of three newborns, that's not a requirement. If you put the infant on a regular two/three-hour feeding/changing cycle, they don't reflexively cry unless they're in some kind of physical distress.
The trick is to execute that schedule, which is itself extremely exhausting, especially if you're exclusively breast feeding. When you've got two or more people handling feedings (especially with formula) then the baby is chill and parents get more sleep and everyone is much happier.
Also, ffs, this is why both Mom and Dad need maternity leave. The job is 10x harder when one parent is working solo.
I agree with everything you said and I used to think all kids could be fixed by schedules. But our second child was the antithesis to any of these methods. She screamed for almost 2 years regardless of anything we did. I constantly changed our approach to her to try to find a solution and nothing worked for more than a week. She is only recently getting better now that she can understand us.
We are now the parents that discuss our shopping list while she screams on the floor in the grocery store. Some kids are kinda assholes. Fortunately she's extremely cute while being an asshole.
I do know some kids have real legit physical issues (colic being a big one). And if you don't figure out how to mitigate their distress quickly, they simply learn to scream when they want to communicate.
But when I hear "some kids are just assholes", I tend to see some underlying problem (possibly something you just can't do anything about at this stage, but it exists) that they're responding to. It's not standard baby behavior to make parents miserable.
This is the one thing my kids did well. First one slept through the night day one. Second took about a year to stay asleep once she was asleep.
And I'm gonna be a hypocrite here. Sleep is a learned behavior which needs to be constantly reinforced. I know parents with super easy kids who never set boundaries around sleep time which caused their kids to be difficult sleepers. Don't ever allow them to get up after bed time and you'll suffer a lot less. Our super difficult second kid learned we will only come into the room for short periods to meet her needs during bedtime. We started setting timers of a few minutes to let her learn that we aren't coming in immediately when she started crying. Saved our sanity and slowly taught her to self sooth. I know it doesn't work for all kids. But IMO a lot of parents will try to solve issues without the assumption their children can't learn to tolerate mild inconvenience. It's a huge cultural issue in the US.
Rigid schedules, no schedules , big feeds, lots of little feeds...nothing seemed to work. For one kid, he wouldn't sleep unless he was next to one of us; one of the others wanted to be in the same room but not the same bed....
But once they hit ~3 it was like a switch flipped, and now they all sleep with no issues.
I think it's easy to dismiss the possibility of this kid existing. I am absolutely not a perfect parent but this kid is literally an asshole. Still love her though.
My wife and I think we are mild abuse victims from this kid. We confirmed it's hereditary with my MIL. My wife as a child was the same monster this kid is. If you listen to her scream she just purposely eggs herself on. She broke our nanny and almost a dozen daycare people. I always say she has like 3 toddlers worth of personality that she is trying to figure out and only recently she is starting to sort it out.
We tried everything related to colic and nothing changed her. Gripe water with fenel seed sort of worked. Omg im just remembering, hiccups 100% of the time after feedings. She almost never ate more than a ounce of formula. My wife had mastitis which killed milk production. Kid was so noise sensitive that I couldn't close a car door outside the house while she was napping. She needed a pacifier to sleep but would purposely spit it out. She whale tailed for almost a year. Naps were more stressfull than awake time because she needed to sleep 1.5 hours or she would screem constantly during awake time. We think she also had measles at one point, the hospital didn't do anything about it even after confirming what it likely was.
Kid broke my brain to the point where I understand where PURPLE crying is needed. My memory and anxiety are only recently recovering.
I am so sorry you had to go through that! Our toddler is in full velociraptor phase, but atleast the beginning was relatively smooth sailing. Sleep deprivation is crappy, especially when society expects you to still function at full capacity.
Just entertaining the thought here -getting kicked in the nuts might be even more evolutionarily disadvantageous, which could help explain the absolutely ridiculous sensitivity. Then again, I'm not a biologist
no? whether the pain is remembered is irrelevant to the feelings in the moment. not remembering the worst of the pain doesn't make that pain more bearable during childbirth
Isn't that the same with any pain? I mean I can't remember how much it hurt when I broke bones or got hit but I remember it hurt a lot. You do get something out of the birth that is worth the pain (big assumptions everyone feels that way) you do not get anything out of being kicked in the nuts or anywhere else (unless it is a kink).
The thing that having a child and jackass have in common is that both led to net positives for the people involved. Jackass guys got rich, mothers that like having kids get another kid. The only way it doesn't make sense is for people who don't understand that having kids is rewarding for some people.
I’ve seen a video of a guy putting his nuts between 2 glass plates held together but 4 screws, 1 in each corner. The women proceeded to tighten the screws with a ratchet until the guys nuts were basically blue and he had to tap out.
Funny how often childbirth is brought up to describe how much more painful something else is, usually by people who have never given births themselves.
I do think that in a truly just world, anyone who preaches Quiverful child baring should be kicked in the nuts at least once for every child they claim they want to have.
If you've never had a kidney stone — imagine that lingering post testicle injury pain. The one where your insides hurt in a way that doesn't even make sense (it does actually, but that is a separate tale) and you almost want to throw up. Or maybe you actually do. Good. Now imagine cranking the dial up on that feeling until it hits the same blinding intensity of the pain in your testicles during the moment of the injury. Now that you have the picture of the degree in your head, stretch that feeling from the minutes to maybe hours of a really nasty ball shot to the days and even weeks it can take to pass a kidney stone.
While there are actually more painful things than childbirth (some people who gave birth can attest), getting kicked in the nuts is clearly not one of them.
Edit: Owner of balls here, the muscle pain I felt in my arms (due to overexcercise) this morning was worse than getting kicked in the balls.
one wonders why nature saw fit to give us pain receptors throughout the urethra, like was that necessary?
surely like a centimeter in would have sufficed?
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. You clearly have never had an actual kick to the nuts if you think post workout soreness is worse. Like actually dude. Is this even a serious comment? It's so absurd to the point of trolling.
While there are actually more painful things than childbirth (some people who gave birth can attest), getting kicked in the nuts is clearly not one of them
Objection!
Exhibit A:
The fact it’s a three pack is just.. chefs kiss
Woman want another child is called productive.
Man want their nut to be kicked again is called masochist.
Where's the equality in that? Finding pleasure in pain shouldn't be shunned, get your nut kicked today!
That's because having a baby gets you a baby. Getting hit in the nuts doesn't suddenly make a baby. I mean, depending on how it happens I guess.
So one is painful for a few minutes, the other gives you a long lasting debuff. That's really not helping your case.
If there's a single person in the world who does not understand this I will be concerned
That'd be part of why they're single, I guess
i understand how having a baby gets you a baby. i don't understand how that's a desirable outcome
You don't need to understand that. You only need to understand that it is a desirable outcome for people who say they want another baby, not why.
fair enough
People do risky/painful things all the time if they want what's on the other side. In fact it's kinda the whole thing with the "to be is to suffer" vibe.
ok?
I mean getting hit in the nuts makes someone a baby 😎
Fair
More of a fetus really. At least position-wise
You don't HAVE to get kicked in the nuts to make a baby any more than you "have to" kiss your partner. But it's called foreplay and it's pretty common?
Maybe between you and your mom /s
Angry upvote
Happy cake day!
Thanks! I wouldn't have realized if you hadn't pointed it out.
it makes the man a crying baby so that's something right?
I'd way rather get kicked in the nuts than have a baby to deal with.
The woman who birthed my child didn't remember anything of the actual process, the pain is so bad the brain just kinda blocks it out after the fact apparently. I've read this is fairly common. One thing I do remember is how bad my hand hurt after all that squeezing, I needed like a whole two ibuprofen to fix it, talk about killer.
Just be glad you're not a Huichol who (allegedly) tied a rope around the father's testicles for the mother to pull during childbirth to share the pain...
I believe it's a hormone thing because otherwise nobody would have a second kid. Apparently the hormones kick in and make you forget the pain while also giving you a big hit of dopamine so that you connect having a kid to being happy.
Oxytocin is a big one, but I'm struggling to remember the others. I remember that one cuz of a psych class where the professor brought it up as an event that mothers would associate as having some of the highest levels of it. Its considered the bonding hormone, so makes sense we'd bond with our babies so drastically to keep us motivated to care for them after they ripped our lower body apart lol
Are you OK now man?
women's brains literally give them amnesia regarding the pain of childbirth, so they want another because they aren't traumatized and don't really remember the negative side because it'd be evolutionarily disadvantagous to be averse to procreating
getting kicked in the nuts has so such evolutionary pressure, so male brains don't help out when it happens lol
Yeah people get played by their biological urges and evolutionary psychology throughout the entire process. Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested, and this is theorized to be to prevent the parents from producing another baby in quick succession who takes attention from baby #1.
As someone who has taken care of three newborns, that's not a requirement. If you put the infant on a regular two/three-hour feeding/changing cycle, they don't reflexively cry unless they're in some kind of physical distress.
The trick is to execute that schedule, which is itself extremely exhausting, especially if you're exclusively breast feeding. When you've got two or more people handling feedings (especially with formula) then the baby is chill and parents get more sleep and everyone is much happier.
Also, ffs, this is why both Mom and Dad need maternity leave. The job is 10x harder when one parent is working solo.
I agree with everything you said and I used to think all kids could be fixed by schedules. But our second child was the antithesis to any of these methods. She screamed for almost 2 years regardless of anything we did. I constantly changed our approach to her to try to find a solution and nothing worked for more than a week. She is only recently getting better now that she can understand us.
We are now the parents that discuss our shopping list while she screams on the floor in the grocery store. Some kids are kinda assholes. Fortunately she's extremely cute while being an asshole.
I guess maybe we got lucky, then.
I do know some kids have real legit physical issues (colic being a big one). And if you don't figure out how to mitigate their distress quickly, they simply learn to scream when they want to communicate.
But when I hear "some kids are just assholes", I tend to see some underlying problem (possibly something you just can't do anything about at this stage, but it exists) that they're responding to. It's not standard baby behavior to make parents miserable.
You sound like my brother after his first, who was a saint of a child.....the second however.....great kid but "not a sleeper" as they say.
None of my kids slept through until they were 3....10 years of broken sleep
This is the one thing my kids did well. First one slept through the night day one. Second took about a year to stay asleep once she was asleep.
And I'm gonna be a hypocrite here. Sleep is a learned behavior which needs to be constantly reinforced. I know parents with super easy kids who never set boundaries around sleep time which caused their kids to be difficult sleepers. Don't ever allow them to get up after bed time and you'll suffer a lot less. Our super difficult second kid learned we will only come into the room for short periods to meet her needs during bedtime. We started setting timers of a few minutes to let her learn that we aren't coming in immediately when she started crying. Saved our sanity and slowly taught her to self sooth. I know it doesn't work for all kids. But IMO a lot of parents will try to solve issues without the assumption their children can't learn to tolerate mild inconvenience. It's a huge cultural issue in the US.
We tried a lot of techniques....
Rigid schedules, no schedules , big feeds, lots of little feeds...nothing seemed to work. For one kid, he wouldn't sleep unless he was next to one of us; one of the others wanted to be in the same room but not the same bed....
But once they hit ~3 it was like a switch flipped, and now they all sleep with no issues.
I think it's easy to dismiss the possibility of this kid existing. I am absolutely not a perfect parent but this kid is literally an asshole. Still love her though.
My wife and I think we are mild abuse victims from this kid. We confirmed it's hereditary with my MIL. My wife as a child was the same monster this kid is. If you listen to her scream she just purposely eggs herself on. She broke our nanny and almost a dozen daycare people. I always say she has like 3 toddlers worth of personality that she is trying to figure out and only recently she is starting to sort it out.
We tried everything related to colic and nothing changed her. Gripe water with fenel seed sort of worked. Omg im just remembering, hiccups 100% of the time after feedings. She almost never ate more than a ounce of formula. My wife had mastitis which killed milk production. Kid was so noise sensitive that I couldn't close a car door outside the house while she was napping. She needed a pacifier to sleep but would purposely spit it out. She whale tailed for almost a year. Naps were more stressfull than awake time because she needed to sleep 1.5 hours or she would screem constantly during awake time. We think she also had measles at one point, the hospital didn't do anything about it even after confirming what it likely was.
Kid broke my brain to the point where I understand where PURPLE crying is needed. My memory and anxiety are only recently recovering.
I am so sorry you had to go through that! Our toddler is in full velociraptor phase, but atleast the beginning was relatively smooth sailing. Sleep deprivation is crappy, especially when society expects you to still function at full capacity.
So if the baby is screaming intermittently, it probably means the caregivers wouldn't be able to handle taking care of another one soon.
I never understood how someone with a six week old managed to find time to boink. But I guess some folks are just very horny.
Indeed. Never underestimate humans' desire to fuck.
Just entertaining the thought here -getting kicked in the nuts might be even more evolutionarily disadvantageous, which could help explain the absolutely ridiculous sensitivity. Then again, I'm not a biologist
So wouldn't that mean that child birth is less painful? Because pain receptors and memory are also evolutionary traits?
no? whether the pain is remembered is irrelevant to the feelings in the moment. not remembering the worst of the pain doesn't make that pain more bearable during childbirth
Isn't that the same with any pain? I mean I can't remember how much it hurt when I broke bones or got hit but I remember it hurt a lot. You do get something out of the birth that is worth the pain (big assumptions everyone feels that way) you do not get anything out of being kicked in the nuts or anywhere else (unless it is a kink).
That guy should watch Jackass. Johnny Knoxville became famous for specifically that.
The thing that having a child and jackass have in common is that both led to net positives for the people involved. Jackass guys got rich, mothers that like having kids get another kid. The only way it doesn't make sense is for people who don't understand that having kids is rewarding for some people.
There are so many guys who have asked to be kicked in the balls again.
They should be able to give birth no problem then.
Find put a way to implant an uterus and ovaries in those guys, and boom, dropping birth rate solved.
Clearly this man is watching the most vanilla of porns.
They got is nut
Why is there a giant turd on his shoulder
If you never shat on a ripped naked dude’s shoulder, you’re missing out on life
I don't know how this is relevant but I upvote anyway
Guys who are into cbt: are you sure?
Daniel: this better not awaken something in me
This person has never been to a fucking kink party then have they?
I’ve seen a video of a guy putting his nuts between 2 glass plates held together but 4 screws, 1 in each corner. The women proceeded to tighten the screws with a ratchet until the guys nuts were basically blue and he had to tap out.
Don’t ask me why I watched the whole thing.
…But, why did you watch the whole thing?
I mean you gotta be into something
CBT has entered the chat
Or watched jackass.
I'm guessing the ratio might be wildly different.
Because you don't gain anything from being kicked in the nuts.
Speak for yourself.
I don't gain anything from being kicked in the nuts
If you film it, you gain followers
I probably don't either. I'm just open to the idea.
We don't
You gain pain, and if you are unlucky a slew of side effects.
Yep. If you had to go through excruciating pain just to nut. You’d gladly take a kick or two.
To be fair there are men who are into ball busting. They would actually legit be asking to be hit in the nuts again.
The logic is sound, but the math doesn't check out.
Funny how often childbirth is brought up to describe how much more painful something else is, usually by people who have never given births themselves.
Neither scenario touches the torture I endure the morning after pepper-heavy, spicy Mexican food.
Ya'll have some weird GI systems...
Obviously weak bloods are excluded
Do you do it again though?
I know it's supposed to be a joke but this is such a common but braindead take
There's things I would get kicked in the nuts for. Like another cup size
I do think that in a truly just world, anyone who preaches Quiverful child baring should be kicked in the nuts at least once for every child they claim they want to have.
Fucking Quiverfull. Eugenics bad, but I really hate those fucks.
Hell, line em up, tell them to grab ankles, and I'll take care of it with a pair of pruning shears.
Kidney stones > kicked in the nuts.
I have heard kidney stones is more in the vein of child birthing.
I mean now when we all talk about things we really don't know much stuff about.
If you've never had a kidney stone — imagine that lingering post testicle injury pain. The one where your insides hurt in a way that doesn't even make sense (it does actually, but that is a separate tale) and you almost want to throw up. Or maybe you actually do. Good. Now imagine cranking the dial up on that feeling until it hits the same blinding intensity of the pain in your testicles during the moment of the injury. Now that you have the picture of the degree in your head, stretch that feeling from the minutes to maybe hours of a really nasty ball shot to the days and even weeks it can take to pass a kidney stone.
(Worst guided meditation ever)
There are worse pains than kidney stones, it's the longevity of it that makes it hard to endure IMO.
(Must train more, I didn't enter nirvana with your method)
yeah, that's not really helpful for me :/
I don't think I've thought about this episode in like 30 years. Yet I can hear the line like it was yesterday.
yyyyyeeeeeEEEESSSSSS!
Nutblows don't give you dat sweet sweet oxy
The comments are totally going to be reasonable with this one😅
While there are actually more painful things than childbirth (some people who gave birth can attest), getting kicked in the nuts is clearly not one of them.
Edit: Owner of balls here, the muscle pain I felt in my arms (due to overexcercise) this morning was worse than getting kicked in the balls.
Kidney stones, those are the worst.
I was about to say this. Had kidney stones. Would not recommend birthing a stone baby.
one wonders why nature saw fit to give us pain receptors throughout the urethra, like was that necessary?
surely like a centimeter in would have sufficed?
Well, if you had something happening there, you probably would want to know about it. Pain is the body's alert system.
This makes me wonder if you've ever had an actual, on-target, ball shot. Because I find this incredibly hard to believe.
Note that I never got any testicular tortion or ruptured scrotum, so...
You've never really been kicked in the nuts with any real force if you think any sort of non injury workout pain is even close.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. You clearly have never had an actual kick to the nuts if you think post workout soreness is worse. Like actually dude. Is this even a serious comment? It's so absurd to the point of trolling.
Have you tried both?
No, and this economy and political system, I wouldn't want to try out my mpreg fantasies...
We’ll have to find a trans guy who gave birth and had bottom surgery afterwards.
Although I don’t think the scrotes they can make right now have the same kinds of nerve endings. I’ll never get to try CBT :(
Isn't that the plot of "Predestination"? If I understood it correctly.
How did I not know there was a movie about a time traveling badass trans guy? That looks fucking awesome.
Infected road rash all up your right arm is so much worse too, and I imagine there's probably worse things than that once you get into spinal pain
Interesting logic though 😅
that's because they asked to get kicked in the nuts by saying shit like "getting kicked in the nuts is more painful then giving birth"