Israel’s strikes on Iran show Trump is unable to restrain Netanyahu as Middle East slips closer to chaos
Critics have said the US decision to retreat from the region has led to a greater likelihood of conflict
As Israeli jets struck targets in Iran on Friday morning, the US moved quickly to distance itself from Benjamin Netanyahu’s decision to target Tehran in an escalation that threatens an all-out war in the Middle East.
The unilateral strikes indicated a collapse of Donald Trump’s efforts to restrain the Israeli prime minister and almost certainly scuttled Trump’s efforts to negotiate a deal with Iran that would prevent the country from seeking a nuclear weapon.
It also will probably lead to an Iranian retaliation that could develop into a larger war between Israel and Iran, a new conflict that Trump has publicly sought to avoid.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/13/israels-strikes-on-iran-show-trump-is-unable-to-restrain-netanyahu-as-middle-east-slips-closer-to-chaosOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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Implying that the United States in any way had attempted to actually stop Israel is journalistic misconduct.
Yeah what the fuck is this, it’s obvious to everyone that the US supports what Israel is doing.
and implying that the united states didn't help is willful ignorance at best since its diplomats worked to convince the iranians that it wasn't going to happen.
It’s probably opposite, where Israel was told to do it in order to continue getting support (I say this based on my expert tv show/movie knowledge)
Trump needs a war he didn't start that he can get involved in so he can claim to be a wartime president. "Can't hold an election when we are at war!"
This also fulfills the anti-prophecy of him calling himself the most peaceful president ever. He only ever presides over peaceful times.
There's also a video going around now of him in 2011 claiming Obama was going to start a war with Iran, due to his incompetence at negotiating, right before the election to boost his popularity.
He's projecting more then an imax movie theater.
"USA unable to restrain themselves from giving bombs to Israel"
"USA unable to restrain their ally from doing exactly what they want“
One of the dumbest headlines I’ve read all year. The US administration is supporting all of this.
Eh, if it was any other US president I'd agree, but not Trump. Trump's masters are Putin and tech broligarchs.
The Zio lobby is definitely his master. Miriam Adelson has his collar.
Funny. Trump has the same master that Biden had.
you have it backwards, israel is an american puppet; not the other way around
still works tho, why would america restrain its imperialist genocidal outpost? creating chaos in the Middle East is its raison d’être
Ah yes, the Jew controlling the world. A conspiracy as old as the mankind
I mean if you can’t see how comments like that sound like dogwhistles for Jewish world domination conspiracy theories then I can’t really help you.
It also has no basis in reality. The US is the master of Israel, not the other way around. If US withdraws their support, Israel would probably cease to exist (at least in its current form) in under a decade.
There are very influential evangelical circles in US government spanning generations that support a warmongering state of Israel because they believe it will bring on the rapture. But that’s not Israel controlling the US, just inbred American religious delusions.
The Israeli Government used AIPAC to capture the American Political class. That is the reality.
Every US President and major political figure since the Clinton Administration has spoken at their annual Convention. US Politicians regularly travel to Israel.
AIPAC has spent hundreds of millions of dollars backing candidates they like and going against candidates that they don't. Politicians in the last election cycle lost their seats after AIPAC spent money against them.
I could keep going but you'd probably accuse me of Gish-Galloping.
None of this is conspiracy, it's well documented and out in the open for everyone to see.
AIPAC has made it so that cannot happen and they do it intentionally.
Buddy, nobody is saying Israel has no sway on US politics. I said the opposite in my initial post as well. But that’s doesn’t make them the puppet masters behind US policy. If you believe that, you’ve fallen for conspiratorial thinking, I’m sorry.
AIPAC - in part - consists of the exact people I was talking about above. And there’s much more to the story: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseupr/2025/02/07/the-politics-of-apocalypse-the-rise-of-american-evangelical-zionism/
That's not true. He is very good at making any situation worse.
What sane person ever believed that Trump was willing or able to restrain Israel or its leadership?
He is definitely able to do it. Over the past months he's shown that he can act unilaterally on pretty much anything, especially on foreign policy, and no one stops him. He could stop weapons shipments to Israel tonight and if that happened Israel wouldn't be able to support it's 4 front war on the region and have to come to the negotiating table. He just doesn't because he's a coward and afraid of the Israel lobby.
He's already stopped aid to ukraine, no reason he can't do the same for Israel.
You're forgetting one key thing. Republicans hate Muslims more than they hate Jews.
Also, their nutty evangelical base believes that Jews need to be in Bethlehem in order for the second coming of Jesus to happen or something.
Bibi doesnt want to go to jail
I wonder what happens if everyone in the region starts lobbing missiles at isreal. How long can they maintain their air defense under a saturated attack? It takes time to reload those systems. A dumb missile launched in isreals direction requires a expensive one to intercept it. All it takes is the powers in the region to collectively decide they have taken enough shit from them and isreal is screwed. Not that they don't deserve it. You can bet trump wont get involved. He needs those troops to put a knee on our collective necks.
I don't think anyone in the region has any solidarity with Iran.
I know they all have their hatred of one another. It would only take a two month love affair to do isreal in. Probably not going to happen but you never know.
Wasn't that kinda the idea behind the 6 day war?
That was egypt and jordan. Not all of them. At that time iran was a US puppet state along with several others. Egypt like the way things are now. So there is no way they would get involved.
AFAIK they’ve tried that before and Israel beat all of them. There’s no contest.
Everyone has learned that Trump is an idiot. He can easily be manipulated and controlled. They all know this. Trump is the only one that doesn’t see it. He isn’t strong. They just let him think he is.
"Flattery will get you everywhere."
And lets not forget that bible-thumping Evangelical Zionists are a large part of the reason Israel has such free reign and support in American politics. Especially now that they've completely infiltrated the highest echelons of power in DC.
This death cult want an all out war in the Middle East to lead to the End Times.
Trump is the willing dupe.
Yes, you can bet your last dollar Dems and Reps are working with the CIA to make this happen.
The US never actually tried to stop Israel. They have the levers but didn't do any of them. From how trump is speaking about the attack, it seems like he wanted this to put more pressure when it comes to the negotiations
This makes it seem like USA had no say in this when they have directly worked with netanyahu's government to keep a tight grip in middle east and is aiding the war effort from closed doors
I'd love to know what happened to trump on that camp david visit. There was a real tune change after that.
Fail to restrain!!! He fully backup israel war in iran
I'd be surprised if he didn't actively encourage it.
Unless of course he wanted the privilege of starting it himself? Because a war could solve some of his problems, and pave the way for a MAGA dictatorship.
But what is he really planning? If USA is at war, he can call for martial law and end democracy in USA. And he has the military there to protect him!
Trump is worse than worthless as a negotiator.
I guess this explains the 20000 anti-drone missiles the US admin diverted from Ukraine to the "middle east"
“collapse of trumps efforts to restrain netanyahu”.. right. If netanyahu did this against US pleas, then why is the US shooting down the Iranian reprisal? Seems like they’d take trump more seriously he didn’t just support them regardless.
Trump can't even grasp his dick much less foreign diplomacy.
The most dangerously incompetent man for the moment
Again. Not the first time for US.
Please stop meddling in foreign affairs.
Lmao. Trump is unable to restrain his fuckin stupid hair on a windy day. He can't do shit to influence a single world leader anywhere.
How do we know it wasn't bilateral?