Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars
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That ICE agent looks a lot like a protestor.
Protesting immigrants seems to be their thing
I thought it was the protestors wearing masks! Honest!
Lookout, Jimbo! He's comin' right for us!
In a stand your ground state?
Haha, ok. Good luck, Attorney General James Uthmeier.
If an armed protestor shoots a driver who is driving at them with intent to cause bodily harm, they... Both have the right to possibly kill one another?
Driver has the green light. Gunman has the green light.
Cool, cool. Makes sense.
Skin color, last name and political affiliation will determine who’s the victim and who’s the assailant
That sounds like maximum USA . Two people not caring about the other, only thinking about themselves, and neither willing to just back off
Childish Gambino is apparently a modern prophet
Or somebody whoat least once talked to an old black person, old hippie, old communist, or old queer.
Purge ruleset
Fuck yeah, Night City here we come!
The first armed protest on a freeway will clarify everything.
There is nothing the far-right would love more than to bring the Fallujah strategy to Tampa Bay. You are absolutely off your rocker if you think the modern American political leadership is not chomping at the bit to drop a MOAB on the Woke Mob.
The first armed protest on a freeway will be smeared across the pavement, while FOX News anchors cheer and drink champagne in between cuts to Donald Trump on the deck of an aircraft carrier under a big banner that says "Mission Accomplished".
Well ya see, the driver is based and the shooter is woke so the shooter is wrong and gets the chair if the car doesn't kill them first
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EDIT: a word
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What's the exchange rate to Stanley Nickles?
God damn, I managed to eat an onion on a /c/nottheonion comment... I rushed over the article to find where that quote was from, only to feel dumber and dumber as it dawned on me that it is, in fact, way past bedtime.
He may not have said it, but I guarantee he’s thinking it
Cool, so all we need now is a list of Proud Boy demonstrations in FL.
No not those protests
So we have the right to hit you with our car Ron?
I hope he says no, thus protesting your request...
are you fleeing for your safety surrounded by ron de santises?
I think Ron DeSantis getting hit by a car would be for everyone's safety.
ron isnt a human, closest is ahumanoid alien, he will just ressurect in a new clone body.
Wait, I've seen that plot
Don't try to be rational with ghouls.
The duty, I'd say.
Awesome, so if you see those maga people at crosswalks or outside of planned parenthood, go ahead and run them down
I don't understand how these MAGA Morons can't figure out that these laws they want are two-edged swords. If they can use it against normal people, then normal people can use it against them, too.
That's because you still think the system will act fairly, it won't. If you hit someone the administration likes, you're in trouble, if you someone they don't like, you're a hero. There's never been any intentions of fairness from the republicans, rules for thee not for me.
This is the number one flaw with the "rule of law" and State authority structure. The enforcement of the law always comes down to how the ruling body of authority, the State and its representatives, interpret the laws. It is why they are intentionally written to be vague, to allow a court wiggle room in how to apply the letter of a law to a unique situation, and many in fact contradict each other if argued a certain way.
If the system becomes corrupted, which it often is due to how top-down power attracts people who seek control over others, those vagaries can be used as weapons against those who oppose their power and to systematically exploit marginalized people.
That works great as long as Right-wingers stay in power. They have this overwhelming arrogance that tells them they will NEVER leave office, but then they always manage to be so terrible at governing that they eventually get kicked out. Then all those oppressive laws can be used against them, if Dems could muster up any sense of courage.
Right, when the Democrats are in power they're afraid of Republicans, when the Republicans are in power they're afraid of nothing
Maga has gotten the green light that rules don't apply to them especially after j6 pardons. If someone runs over a maga idiot you can guarantee courts will throw the book at the driver. Rules for the and not for me.
Issue is, they don't want equal laws for all. They want a hierarchical system, where people upper the ladder have more rights and more protections, because "it worked well for the kings". If they want to conform to this rule of reactionary movements, they will likely make it so, that they'll specify "illegal protests" somewhere...
only if they attack you.
He said if they need to flee for their safety which maga snowflakes see a black person and will assume they're being attacked and need to flee for safety.
In that case, I guess it's ok to splatter the folks protesting in front of planned parenthood?
Which means the same as their ridiculous stand your ground law: right wing traitor lunatics will get away with actual crimes, and normal decent folks will get busted.
Which begs the question I've been asking for some time now: If someone tries to run someone over, and they respond by (non-fatally) shooting the driver, who gets arrested? (Assume both are white republicans).
To make matters more complicated the driver is homeless and living in their motorhome, so were they also attacked in their own home?
Florida has Castle Doctrine AND Stand Your Ground. Anybody comes into your home or vehicle, give them an overdose of lead.
Using the “Kyle Rittenhouse” excuse!
“I was so fearful, that I drove from my house in IL to another state with a rifle and shot people because, “I feared for my life! Not like it was murder or anything!”
So now all MAGOTS are free range, hit em if you see them and feel threatened!! So in FL you can run someone over via the governor! So fucking dumb! I can’t even try to understand what is truly going on in America because no one can other than all the oligarchs and billionaires running the country/world!!
Which is the case pretty much anywhere, you have the right to escape.
I've seen videos of random people just surrounded after a football match or some other shit and they start just fuvking with the car and jump on the bonnet and try to open doors. I would 100% just floor it and good luck guys. But i don't think that's what he means.
This is just one more reason why there needs to be an organization participating in protest spaces specifically to provide armed security, same as Black Panthers provided security for civil rights protests.
People won't be so willing to drive into a crowd of protesters if the bloc has an armed perimeter.
Problem is they will disappear, jail, or kill any genuine organizers and infiltrate / sabotage any organization that actually gets to a place of effectively mobilizing a strategy like this.
Don’t get me wrong, I think something like this would help level the playing field and benefit the protesters tremendously but the FBI and DOJ won’t let it happen. Look at the people that tried organizing the Ferguson protests after the death of Eric garner, Freddy grey, Tamir rice, back in 2012-2015 they’re all dead or in jail.
People need to protect and organize themselves. Thats what the black panthers did and that’s precisely why they were so effective. They built up from their preexisting communities.
Problem is they are already doing this regardless of if your an organizer or not. If the regime decides you're a target, then you're fucked. So might as well start organizing to defend against those who actively wish to do you and yours harm.
This is why organizations need to practice good OpSec in order to prevent infiltration.
Yea, and part of what the Black Panthers did in their organizing was to provide armed security for protests, among a plethora of other mutual aid programs.
Those problems have existed for every single revolutionary effort to exist across history. That didn't stop them and it shouldn't stop us either.
Or an organization keeping our streets free of killibg machines
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Difference of scale.
The Xitter post cheering the speech caught my attention, so I clicked through to the X user, "iAnonPatriot" and just have to say, wow.
It starts off with his bio image being literal hands goatse'ing through the virtual Matrix grid, and it only gets worse from that level of basic. Just a red-pill Nazi fever dream in feed form. 610K followers.
Videos of protestors getting abused are his favorite, apparently. One top one is police firing gas into apparently peaceful protestors. The protestor kicks it back, walks back and is just standing there doing nothing threatening, and then apparently gets shot with a rubber(?) bullet and lies motionless for a moment before someone picks him up and he walks off. The caption this guy gave is "HOLY SH*T Perfect shot.. 🤣🤣🤣". Anti-LGBTQ posts feature as well. General concentrated bile into a convenient feed.
So I guess this "influencer" is what Gen Z is getting fed by algorithms and told is normal day-in and day-out?
Words always evolve, but it's kind of a shame that "patriot" got turned into "I completely lack empathy and am a psychopathic piece of shit bootlicker."
Germany was full of patriotic nationalists a century ago.
The issue is what (concept of a) nation they are patriotic towards.
For example, these Schweinehunde are cheering for an 1800s version of the US, where coloured people were property and annexing their neighbours was why they claimed to love the military.
A state governor just authorized vehicle ramming attacks against probably his own citizens. Disgusting and disgraceful.
He's authorizing terrorism against free speech as a loophole for getting around the first amendment
He didn't "authorize" anything. That's not how laws or public policies are created. He's just bloviating like all MAGA Nazis. If it actually happened, the person would be prosecuted based on the law, and their defense of "The governor said it was okay!" would not be accepted by the judge.
This belongs in something like c/evilpeople more than nottheonion
Eh I’d be fine with a crosspost
It’s beyond satire that any politician thinks this is OK to say in any fucking context and little Rhonda should be in jail for it, prosecuted as an accomplice when someone actually goes out and does it
Free speech is where people legally violently kill or injure you for speaking
I think you are forgetting the right of killing and injuring.
Land of freedom!
/s (if not obvious)
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Not in the language that these fascists are talking.
Weird. The more I look at DeSantis the more he looks like a protestor. Just me?
"Law and order"
Realistically it's a "Stand Your Ground" situation for the protestor if they are threatened with deadly force from a car attack, so the protestors can legally shoot drivers who are attempting to run them over. So if Rhonda wants to escalate that's what they are asking for, GTA street wars basically.
Is Rhonda the new q-tip Florida Karen?
At this point Republicans are just being idiots. They say whatever 1940s idiot shit pops into their head.
Saying this in the 40s in america would get you hanged with an engine as counterweight.
Bear this in mind next time something like a unite the right or Jan 6 happens.
The jan 6 riotors are part of ICE right now
What if we hit him with a car?
He becomes Greg Abbott.
Greg Abbot was hit by a tree struck by a lightning bolt from god. If you run over DeSantis you're just doing the lord's work.
Amen.
De Santis may be a sack of shit but that doesn't justify the misleading headline in this case. He was giving a specific example of escaping "when a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle, and threatens you." DeSantis says so many outrageous things for real and pushes outrageous policies for real, there's no need to misquote him.
That means I have the right to put 9 rounds into the drivers seat before that happens.
I'm not sure a florida jury will buy it but it is abiding the spirit of the law in florida to merc nearby drivers because you fear for your life.
I wound say 49 Merc then just to be sure.
or i was thinking, ram the car that is ramming protestors.
He doesn't "say" that. This law was passed a while ago
And people wonder why South Park stopped making episodes. The world of South Park is normal compared to this.
Is that the original GTA (fuck I am getting old)
Same with right to hit Nazis and police with cars.
only if they attack you.
You really believe if the police attack you you can run them over with your car?
Morally, it depends.
Hmm, I guess if some magat protesters are around they would be fair game to get run over as well.
cuz pedestrian in FL means homeless or drug addicts, so they are ok to run over
“Have Right to Hit [liberal, democratic, equality-seeking, anti-fascist] Protesters With Cars [but not pro-fascist, talibangelical, NAZI demonstrators]”
The subtext is important.
I read that as Protestants and wondered how long Desantis had been a Fenian
imagine hitting someone in the car, then the police arrive but dismiss you when they find out the person you hit is a Protestant
This guy has predatory eyes.
I'm all for hating desantis, but context is important:
Dude, if a mob of people are attacking my car, I'm not just going to sit there twiddling my thumbs. You feel free to, though.
During protests like five years ago, I saw a group of peeps rip someone out of their semi and beat the shit out of them.
I’m on the side of the protestors because what’s happening to the US is obviously fucked, but if I’m ever surrounded by people and have no egress, I’m going to egress by any means necessary, I fully agree with you.
You don't have to be a cunt to make a point, especially if it's a stupid point.
Honest question, what would you do if you were surrounded by people threatening you?
This is the type of Pearl-clutching/fear mongering that lives in a head filled with propaganda. There are already laws in place which cover this type of fake scenario, the article itself dismisses the claims you're trying to make. Find me a valid use-case for this law, there are hundreds of instances where the exact opposite happens and vehicles are used as a weapon to assault protesters but all you got are fictional "what ifs"? Don't drive into a protest..... Use common sense when you see a group of people gathered on the street like any sane person would.
love how you crumple from any push-back on your false narrative.
Just an FYI if you don’t smoke weed. Buy an AR15 and just be prepared. But if you do smoke weed. Buy it anyways but don’t admit you smoke weed. Ever.
Since marijuana, or more specifically cannabis-derived THC, is still illegal federally and you mark yes when filling out the federal firearms paperwork you will not be allowed to buy a firearm.
However, if you select No, but do use cannabis-derived THC, and admit to or it or law enforcement finds out then you've committed a felony. It's the same law they applied to Hunter Biden's case.
Why they felt the need to comment on that specifically in this thread? No idea either.
Note: I'm not aware of any cases yet that are for hemp-derived THC products that meet the legality under the 2018 Farm Bill. Thats kind of a gray area currently, so you're taking your chances.
Thanks! It helps that I just had to complete that paperwork for the first time in 15ish years; I don't think those portions were worded the same then.
Happy cake day btw!
I think he's saying that you can buy a semiautomatic rifle if you don't use the Marijuana, but if you do use the Marijuana, don't tell anyone. Maybe they used the Marijuana before posting.
I’m dyslexic as F. So my writing is always wonky.
And if you're surrounded by cops?
You mean protesters in uniform?
Whenever i see a circle with stuff radiating in the circle behind him, abd the image is low res, my brain just fills it in with a sonnenrad.
This would be a very easy self defense case for armed protestors.
To clarify, are you saying you believe that long-lasting condensation trails left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are actually "chemtrails" consisting of chemical or biological agents, sprayed for nefarious purposes undisclosed to the general public?
This is unhinged idiocy. Seek mental help.
"Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars" but only if they blow over the legal limit!
idiocracy is here. told ya'll it'll come. i am so looking forward for a wrestler to be president after kaiser trump. it will be magical.
Why are liberals not going ot these protests armed?
Because they are going to peacefully protest
And how is that working out? So far the right has shown that they are willing to keep escalating. You can bring a gun to a protest and not shoot anyone. I've seen it happen. The rightwingers always back down when liberals show up with guns.
The drag queen story hour stuff in texas where the antifascists showed up armed did fine. It probably was more peaceful than most.
Edit: it is important to note texas is an open carry state.
(Edit: Don't act like you wouldn't do the same.)
As much as I hate to say it—after reading the article—I'm siding with DeSatan on this one.
If I ever end up getting caught in the middle of a protest, and people are surrounding my car in an attempt to damage it or injure me—I don't care if I agree with the protestors or not—I will do whatever is necessary to protect myself and my only form of reliable transportation.
It's politician speak for 'hey it's okay to run over people who are anti-ice/trump'.
Technically, yeah there's a case for self defense if your life is in danger. No one's really denying that. If you flip the script though, and let's say it was a group of proud boys protesting something, I'd bet you real world money he'd suddenly be against running over protesters. That is the issue here.
I realize that his reasons are hateful but that's not the part I agree with.
You already had the right to do what he’s saying, in a specific situation, all he is doing is planting the seed for people to drive I to protests as protected aggravators. This is not establishing rights, this is a call to action, don’t be fooled.
Rioting against fascism is different to rioting against democracy
People like you give actual anarchists a bad name. Anarchy is more than simple minded individualism.
Go read a fucking book and learn before your spout bullshit. Your simplistic take on a complex political ideology is exactly why no one takes legitimate anarchists seriously.
While on the democratic side when we have a democratic president, those said would say "WE HATED RIOTS BUT LOVE J6" and "WE HATE ICE BUT LOVE THE CDC"
and the protesters repeatedly yelled, "WE AREN'T GOING TO HURT YOU! WE'RE JUST SMASHING UP YOUR CAR!!"