Spyke
lemmy.world

Absolutely unhinged. Nobody would have believed this “tweet” even 1 year ago, and now this is the new normal

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Honestly, even then. 45 was always unhinged but 47 has really lowered the bar more than was ever thought possible.

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MissJinxreply
lemmy.world

I mean if he was unhinged but was making your lifes better I would understand but the guy doesn't even care and it's making your lifes worst. I'm I crazy to think that american are crazy to vote for him, or is he making your lifes better in any way?

Not a critic, just really want to understand

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He is making the lives of women and minorities worse; that's what Republicans voted for

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feddit.nl

TRUMP is the GREATEST GODKING EVER because he will FINALLY GET RID OF the d*mn WOKEDEIDRAGILLEGALSQUEENIMMIGRANTS that sleepy joeBUSSED into our great country🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷 GOD BLESS AMERICA AMEN

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

It's a combination of very stupid/uninformed voters, and hardcore fascist voters who don't care how bad their own lives get, as long as immigrants and trans people get gassed. A lot of people think the latter group is a minority, but I actually think it's the other way around. I think most people who voted for Trump are just fascists and the uninformed are maybe 20% max.

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From outaide it's so crazy that the same people that "hate imigrants" call themselfs Irish and Italian kkkkk

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lemmy.world

It's like he's campaigning for the liberals. Almost no one in Canada wants to hear this and I bet they will vote against whatever they see as aligned with this.

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Exactly. He’s normalizing the idea of the violent annexation of Canada to his supporters.

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But honestly they seem to think it is fucking meaningless. They're more forgiving about it, but they're still out there calling it asinine.

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lemm.ee

It's like a truck carrying punctuation got into an accident with a train carrying words. This is so hard to read.

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lemm.ee

I like this way more.

Awwww man! I accidentally squeezed the box while inserting the straw and now it looks like I peed!

Also, I peed.

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LOL some smooth brains no doubt will. Will be counted as spoiled ballots.

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Man, the dumbest thing about this nonsense is repeating that Canada will only be one state. It's already broken into provinces, dickhead, at least make a better offer than two senators.

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Fuck that it will not and should not happen .so fuck off even thinking about it

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Sludgeyyreply
lemmy.world

#1 Ontario being the population of Pennsylvania

#9 New foundland being the population of Wyoming

#10 Prince Edward Island only has 150k, could lump in 150k from northern territories

20 senators for 40m, 5.0E-7 senators per person

200 senators for 340m, 5.88E-7 senators per person

It seems pretty fair

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lemmy.world

I'd love to have the Canadian conservatives in the USA. It would hopefully calm down the magat zombies we have in office.

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

What? They eat horse paste just like the ones down south. We have maple maga here that fly confederate flags et al. All that would do is increase their numbers, not make them less fascist.

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lemmy.world

It's becoming more apparent that the end of late stage capitalism is fascism.

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Let's be honest here it's going to be just a territory for quite a while.

4

Poilievre alrady said he wants to align more with Trump's America. He'll absolutely sell us out.

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lemmy.ml

What is it with Trump and always "being subsidized by us" and "take away from us" while the US has trillions of debt in other countries? 300 billions to my home country alone, which doesn't even compare to some other countries.

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Alaknárreply
lemm.ee

He doesn't understand what "trade deficit" means.

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lemm.ee

He trusts that his followers don't, anyway. Based on some arguments I've seen online, he's right about that.

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I mean, he always calls trade deficit a "subsidy", and has since 2016. I honestly don't think he understand what that concept means, he's not that subtle with manipulation.

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He is incapable of understanding mutual trade and cooperation. To him every human interaction must have a winner and a loser. So if Canada is benefiting from trade with the US in his mind it must be at America's expense. It's a disturbingly simple view of trade and cooperation, and one that makes actual good faith discourse with the US near impossible.

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Because Trump is a troll. He doesn't give a shit if what he says or does is correct. Trying to make sense of the schmuck gives me a headache.

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He keeps referring to the disproportionate US export income to import costs. Something like 2 trillion in exports to 3 trillion in imports. 1 trillion lost from the US every year, and ~30% to Canada that's his math

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lemm.ee

Hypothetically, if canada becomes a state, would they flip our house of representatives blue? I guess more likely they'll become like puerto rico or guam or something.

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But I thought we were pretending to care about states, not individual voters.

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I guess more likely they’ll become like puerto rico or guam or something.

This is what you need to keep foremost in your mind. There is no conceivable reality in which the US conquers (yes conquers, they can call it annexation all they want but at the end of the day Trump wants a conquest to his name) Canada and gives any semblance of voting or personal rights to Canadians. Hell, even if Canada was somehow persuaded into voluntarily joining the US, this regime would never, ever honour any kind of arrangement that gave Canadians a fair deal. They are fascist bullies, as close to actual evil as we've seen in North America in a very long time, and they have no interest in any sort of fair bargain.

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They'd annex the land, and then deport all the Canadian foreigners that illegally immigrated in the US.

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I don't think they are getting statehood right away

4

Am I correct in the assessment that his recent antics are because being a nazi no longermakes him special?

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db2reply
lemmy.world

I'm still trying to figure out how everything in the last 15ish years isn't. Why do we have to be in the dumbest timeline.

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This is actually one of the most interesting and entertaining timelines.

There was only supposed to be enough source data to make it to 2012- and that was originally a very generous buffer, since a fraction of a percent of Earths last more than 10 years after both networked computers and nuclear weapons have been invented in-simulation.

So, the operators decided not to pull the plug and just let this one run its course.

As it extrapolates history farther and farther outside of the initial parameters, the simulator is cannibalizing itself with feedback and undergoing model collapse.

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lemm.ee

America has not been subsidizing Canada. Canada has been subsidizing the US.

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CircaVreply
lemmy.ca

That’s correct. I want an immediate end to Canada selling discounted oil, gas and hydroelectricity to the US.

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About every country forced to hoard USD for business purposes subsidises the US.

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lemmy.ca

Will. Never. Happen.

Canadians will literally die before living for a milisecond as Americans.

And - this is a declaration of war by the US president. Cause it would take a military invasion to violently turn Canadians into Americans.

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It has long been the case, that if you confuse a Canadian for an American they are offended, but if you confuse an American for a Canadian they don’t mind.

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lemmy.world

okay, but, can I become a canadian? Because I would really love to be anything other than American right now.

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If the US invades, breaches our borders etc you can defintely help us from within.

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lemmy.world

I like how he wants Canada as one state. Keeping the Provinces split would push the Senate to the left for quite some time.

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SybilVanereply
lemmy.ca

Only if you assume elections will keep happening.

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T00l_shedreply
lemmy.world

They likely will, in a similar fashion to how NK , or russia, or China does it

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Unfortunately if Canada got 20 senators they still wouldn't have a 60% supermajority to remove Trump, undo citizens united, or enact public option healthcare with. It would be 47+20 = 67 and out of 120 that is 55.83%

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

Yeeaaaahhh, another one of those things that sounds nice on paper.... No thanks, but thanks.

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Oh of course it is.

My problem is that you apparently are one of those "if it isn't my way it's the wrong way" kinda guy on this topic.

Anarchism isn't the only alternative, so to say, and very much not the best one as in reality it won't scale Because human beings are a bit of a dick, in general. Same goes for communism, it requires you to kill a lot of people and basically become a dictatorship.

I'm very much for a highly limited form of capitalism (which at it's core isn't bad, it's the freedom to freely trade) with loads of laws in place to limit the size of it (no company larger than 1000 employees, no company larger than networth of 50 million, no personal net worth larger than 10 million, that sort of stuff) and loads of taxes to apply those laws (no taxes for the poor, richest pay up to 100% income after certain level, etc, to always make sure nobody gets too rich, too powerful

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Right, but then just doing it by including more countries in the schengen agreement or something similar.

2

Is he that dumb or does he just want the other guy to win? I'm pretty sure even he knows that this bullshit is why the other guy now has a chance.

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lemmy.world

The guy is ranting about a criminal investigation into why his polling numbers are so low. He's quite literally a demented old man. I think he really isn't rational enough to see that that he is harming the man he wants to win.

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TBF he promoted himself and others in the USA and that went fucking swimmingly for him somehow.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

"increase your military power for free"... what's the portion of the federal budget that is allocated to defense again ?

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uieniareply
lemmy.world

He doesn't need distractions anymore. He can do as he please, and he knows it. This is just him enjoying himself.

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lemmy.ca

I would not ordinarily recommend Hitler's tactics and strategies as a general rule, but he sure knew how to solve the Hitler problem, at the very end. Donny, maybe look into that.

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FYI, this is unpopular among Canadian voters. Conservative underdog, tries to deny being a lapdog, or supporting the idea, but this unfiltered BS doesn't help him. It's just a sign that Trump is completely out of control surrounded only by people who must restrain themselves on pushback to only far stupider things he might say.

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Well Poilievre, who's party lost tonight, has been extremely limp-wristed in his opposition to Trump's threats, but he hasn't outright said he'd surrender, just implied it with his weak rhetoric. More likely to me is that Trump in his dementia ridden mind was literally calling for people to vote for him. Like somehow enough Canadians would write Trump on their ballots that it would "win" the election for him, which demonstrates such a fundamental lack of understanding about our electoral system that I don't even know where to begin.

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Yes, indeed. If you check out Poilievre's platform, he almost entirely mimics Trump's, right down to promoting Canada's own version of DOGE. That's why there was such a huge turnout at the voting booths. The writing was on the wall with that guy and becoming American was not what the majority of us wanted.

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reddthat.com

I wonder if he realizes shit like this is really helping the liberals

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lemm.ee

A few months ago it seemed like a sure thing conservatives would win, til Trump changed all that

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Rolderreply
reddthat.com

Canadians saw the US shooting themselves in the face and went oh hell naw

7

There are still a disappointingly large amount of Canadians who will vote for pp

3

Hopefully the expected Liberal victory by wide margin is a sign of what is to come in the USA Midterms.

8

I wonder if americans will ever learn, that there is no such thing as bad publicity...

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jlai.lu

Is my English grammar lacking or is there something wrong with the "if" in the first sentence? Shouldn't that be a "by" ("by Canada becoming [...] )?

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BigPotatoreply
lemmy.world

Commas can be used to identify parts of the sentence that can be cut out e.g. "... wisdom to cut your taxes in half ... If Canada becomes the 51st state."

Now, here, the comma was used for a list so it shouldn't have been used that way but I'm sure his meth head brain probably got lost partway or the AI bot that mimics his speech patterns is just that dumb.

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pseudoreply
jlai.lu

I don't have an issue with his use of comma but I found it weird to say "Elect the man who has the strength [...] to cut your taxes in half, [...] if Canada become the cherished 51sts state of the [USA]"
But English is not my mother tongue, so it could just be language interference.

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No, it's terrible. Your English is better than his. Just because there's some sliver of sense doesn't mean he even did it on purpose.

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