Ah.. It's fair? If wealth isn't distributed well, blaming radical ideas will only fuel the fire. Solution is a much deeper one no one wants to invest into.
Burn the world down and build it back fresh and new. It’s a great strategy when you don’t ask who is building it back and what are their goals? Nobody should ever trust Trump or any other billionaire to be that person.
Except we still live in ‘free’ market vibes based capitalism - where the profits are privatized, and the losses get socialized. If this tariff stupidity goes on, there will be some kind of bailout/grift like there always is. From PPP loans, sweetheart tax breaks, to liquidity bailouts for banks, the Fed will step in and Congress will have to do something to restore market and consumer confidence. Or else we all facetank turbo inflation, job losses, and stagnant wages in a new economic depression.
If these NEETs were old enough to have been alive during the 2008 crash, they spent it playing Modern Warfare 2 and wondering why everyone else had big sad - after all, they still had vidya, porn, and tendies living at home.
I am from a very poor place in WV where most people are on assistance because there are no jobs.
Trump flags everywhere. Cars driving down the road with no tags or insurance, but Trump stickers all over.
I don’t get it. Well, actually I do.
Religion. The preacher says the gay is bad. Preacher says the trans is bad. Democrats want to extend basic rights to those people and preacher says god don’t like that.
There's also the idea that they've earned their government money. I once dealt with someone like that. Her ptsd disability money was earned unlike everyone else who didn't suffer for it in her eyes. Higher taxes meant her victims (she was emotionally abusive af) couldn't spend as much on her and higher government spending meant that the government couldn't spend as much on her.
These people don't think that their money will go away.
I dont think al of the people that voted for the annoying orange agree with the fascistic tendencies. It's probably an unhealthy mix of suicidals and depressed people, angry people, fascists, idiots and morons. Neither of these are mutually exclusive of course.
I mean debtor prisons are basically just involuntary prison labor, which the US already has. Not really a leap, considering you can get arrested for legitimately anything.
If it's high enough, and you don't move to another state...
Collections sues you, you get a court summons in the mail.
You throw away the court summons along with all your overdue bill notices.
Congratulations, you now have an active arrest warrant, police will be at your location in... a few days to a few weeks, you go to jail, then likely prison for contempt of court, and when you get out, the debt collector won their judgement against you by default, any wages you try to get will be garnished, your credit score is absymal so you can't get an apartment basically anywhere.
There really are an unfortunate number of people who want to see the world burn in some fashion. Entertainment, because they can’t stand not poking a bear with a stick, or maybe because they’re a crab in a bucket and are willing to destroy others’ success because they have none of their own.
A lot of different comments, and I know this is a greentext, but I wonder what people here think about americans who have 3 jobs and can only barely pull through?
Such people have nothing more to lose, everybody constantly keeps forgetting about them, the homeless, sick people... the list goes on.
And I'm not saying acceleration is good, but for the lost people, nothing good is coming from any side. And the pressure keeps getting worse. Even from the democrats.
So what is the solution, achievable as the world is now?
This is a very big flaw in that kind of argument. It might look like that but there are plenty of worse situations human beings have been in historically. There is no war going on, food and clean water and shelter (even with heating and lighting) are actually available,...
Absolutely! That kind of thinking of "I have nothing to lose" is pretty dangerous on politics. You still have a truckload more to lose. Mostly in matter of rights mostly but imagine being in worse dystopias the oligarchy would love to put you on just to squeeze an extra penny from you or better yet read about it in history books.
The worst part is that it takes decades to fix the damage done, soon you realize there is no bottom to touch to think "you can only go up" there is only the moment you guys realize "enough is enough".
That kind if abstract thinking isn't in that person's wheelhouse. They're focused on their next meal, which bill to pay (or partially pay), and if that pain is worth the time/money lost going to urgent care. They aren't thinking about the long term effects or side effects of political arguments.
"Fuck you, I never had mine" is definitely one of the positions one could take.
Ah.. It's fair? If wealth isn't distributed well, blaming radical ideas will only fuel the fire. Solution is a much deeper one no one wants to invest into.
I can call it a really stupid take while also acknowledging we need deep systemic change.
I meant it's fair from a common man perspective where the laws might protect you from corporate greed
Burn the world down and build it back fresh and new. It’s a great strategy when you don’t ask who is building it back and what are their goals? Nobody should ever trust Trump or any other billionaire to be that person.
Yes, the right idea with worst case motive
Except we still live in ‘free’ market vibes based capitalism - where the profits are privatized, and the losses get socialized. If this tariff stupidity goes on, there will be some kind of bailout/grift like there always is. From PPP loans, sweetheart tax breaks, to liquidity bailouts for banks, the Fed will step in and Congress will have to do something to restore market and consumer confidence. Or else we all facetank turbo inflation, job losses, and stagnant wages in a new economic depression.
If these NEETs were old enough to have been alive during the 2008 crash, they spent it playing Modern Warfare 2 and wondering why everyone else had big sad - after all, they still had vidya, porn, and tendies living at home.
That's where the goverment suppoorted neet's come into the picture.
I know some neet's who get more money from goverment than some people working 60 hour jobs.
I am from a very poor place in WV where most people are on assistance because there are no jobs.
Trump flags everywhere. Cars driving down the road with no tags or insurance, but Trump stickers all over.
I don’t get it. Well, actually I do.
Religion. The preacher says the gay is bad. Preacher says the trans is bad. Democrats want to extend basic rights to those people and preacher says god don’t like that.
There's also the idea that they've earned their government money. I once dealt with someone like that. Her ptsd disability money was earned unlike everyone else who didn't suffer for it in her eyes. Higher taxes meant her victims (she was emotionally abusive af) couldn't spend as much on her and higher government spending meant that the government couldn't spend as much on her.
These people don't think that their money will go away.
How much money?
Bout tree fiddy
Anywhere from 500 euro up to 1.5k euro ( which is higher than average wage here ).
They seem oddly confident in the police state and cultural sharia they voted for will never come for them.
Or they don't care. Don't underestimate how self destructive depression can be.
Don't blame this on depression. Most depressed people doesn't become fascists. If anything this is their narcissism showing itself.
I dont think al of the people that voted for the annoying orange agree with the fascistic tendencies. It's probably an unhealthy mix of suicidals and depressed people, angry people, fascists, idiots and morons. Neither of these are mutually exclusive of course.
I never thought leopards would eat my face
Those don't exist.
I mean, if we're bringing back child labor, debtor's prisons aren't a huge leap.
I mean debtor prisons are basically just involuntary prison labor, which the US already has. Not really a leap, considering you can get arrested for legitimately anything.
Here's how you go to jail for debt:
Rack up a ton of credit card debt.
Don't pay it off, goes to collections.
If it's high enough, and you don't move to another state...
Collections sues you, you get a court summons in the mail.
You throw away the court summons along with all your overdue bill notices.
Congratulations, you now have an active arrest warrant, police will be at your location in... a few days to a few weeks, you go to jail, then likely prison for contempt of court, and when you get out, the debt collector won their judgement against you by default, any wages you try to get will be garnished, your credit score is absymal so you can't get an apartment basically anywhere.
I mean, it kind of is.
Debtor's prisons were never fair, but at least it usually involved adults who made their own choices.
Kids can't legally consent to anything - though I'm sure the republicans want to change that too.
But then they could say no to child marriage and they wouldn't want that
gottem
Can't confirm, have picked tendies. Would recommend.
Some men want to see the world burn.
Yeah me. I am an arsonist
You mean you engineer solutions.
As long as the solution is fire
What about explosions? Can we do explosions?
There really are an unfortunate number of people who want to see the world burn in some fashion. Entertainment, because they can’t stand not poking a bear with a stick, or maybe because they’re a crab in a bucket and are willing to destroy others’ success because they have none of their own.
How did they never pay for anything? Shoplifting? Are they literally a statue of a Confederate general?
welfare
Why not a bit of all?
Anon has never had a job, and banks need income to give you a loan.
Good boy points are not subject to tarrifs
"The changes haven't affected me (yet) so I have no problem with it"
"wait, they're cancelling pre orders for the switch 2? REEEEE"
That's a "soy console", OP will wake up once his PC will cost 2-3 times as much thanks to tariffs.
All well and good until mom's retirement accounts tank and you can no longer live in her basement.
The most dangerous people are those with nothing to lose.
The least dangerous people are those with nothing to gain.
Anon is an enlightened accelerationist
Bro watched South Park at 14 and said mmm yes that will be my personality
The whole "liberal tears" stuff came from the gingers episode.
The opposite of pro life is mandatory abortion for all.
Wouldn't it require going to full term, and then aborting post delivery?
Or maybe it's forced sterilization for all?
Up to 120 years post delivery?
my child my choice
I kinda understand their point of view here actually. Wanting to drag everyone down to their level. Burn it all down.
A lot of different comments, and I know this is a greentext, but I wonder what people here think about americans who have 3 jobs and can only barely pull through?
Such people have nothing more to lose, everybody constantly keeps forgetting about them, the homeless, sick people... the list goes on.
And I'm not saying acceleration is good, but for the lost people, nothing good is coming from any side. And the pressure keeps getting worse. Even from the democrats.
So what is the solution, achievable as the world is now?
This is a very big flaw in that kind of argument. It might look like that but there are plenty of worse situations human beings have been in historically. There is no war going on, food and clean water and shelter (even with heating and lighting) are actually available,...
Absolutely! That kind of thinking of "I have nothing to lose" is pretty dangerous on politics. You still have a truckload more to lose. Mostly in matter of rights mostly but imagine being in worse dystopias the oligarchy would love to put you on just to squeeze an extra penny from you or better yet read about it in history books.
The worst part is that it takes decades to fix the damage done, soon you realize there is no bottom to touch to think "you can only go up" there is only the moment you guys realize "enough is enough".
That kind if abstract thinking isn't in that person's wheelhouse. They're focused on their next meal, which bill to pay (or partially pay), and if that pain is worth the time/money lost going to urgent care. They aren't thinking about the long term effects or side effects of political arguments.
The prices remain the same when you steal everything
The best thing to come of all of this would be bookers suffer too.
Fuck you and your house and car and planed retirment