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Trump approval falls to 43%, lowest since returning to office, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

Summary

Trump's approval rating dropped to 43%, the lowest since his January return to office, amid backlash over new tariffs and a mishandled military strike disclosure.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll found only 37% approve of his economic leadership, and 34% support his foreign policy.

A majority view his tariff hikes as harmful, while 74% criticized the use of Signal to discuss a Yemen operation.

The poll, conducted online with 1,486 adults, showed bipartisan concern and a 2-point decline since March, reflecting rising unease over Trump's policies.

Trump approval falls to 43%, lowest since returning to office, Reuters/Ipsos poll findshttps://www.reuters.com/default/trump-approval-falls-43-lowest-since-returning-office-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2025-04-02/Open linkView original on lemmy.world
Pennomireply
lemmy.world

Something like 7% to 13% of poll responses are just trolling anyway (look up Lizardman’s Constant) and can’t be trusted. Assuming that ALL the trolls are voting to help Trump, we can see how many people unironically thinking that Trump it’s good.

So a minimum of 43% - 13% = 30% of people are legitimate cultists.

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FinnFootedreply
lemmy.world

I find the 33/33/33 rule works. 33% of people just like authoritarianism during this period of history. I'm not sure if that's a constant or because of the current climate making people stressed and weird. But they feel safer when someone says they're going to take control and fix everything and they feel like they don't have to think about it beyond that. They will agree with anything their in group says because it soothes them. These are your cultists.

Another 33% are just checked out. They're stressed in the same way, but instead of turning to an authoritarian to fix the problem they just bury their head in the sand. They feel like they're too small to fix anything so why even try. These people sometimes still vote if its convenient enough and are complete wildcards when they do because they really have no clue what's happening. They vote on vibes. This is also where trolls tend to sit.

That just leaves just 33% of people who are paying attention and either aren't stressed and have the emotional bandwidth, have interest, or have the persistence to pay attention even when stressed to try and do something to stop the authoritarianism (even if that's just vote).

This leaves 1% which is the literal 1% trying to pull the strings.

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Honestly I'd bet the "too stressed to care" make up only a few % of the middle 33%, and that the middle is more representative of a different kind of ignorance. I'm talking about the people who were born reasonably comfortable and never found history, science, or politics interesting. People who devote most of their time and personality to things like sportsball, video games, or social media. People who choose to watch bottom-barrel reality tv unironically. Basically the "centrists" who don't really know how anything works, ignorant of pretty much everything outside their niche education or profession, whatever's spoon fed to them, and the mainstream media.

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lemmy.world

I think the male members of them would seriously cut their nuts off, get some black sneakers and chug some poison if donvict told them they need to catch a ride on the Hale-Bopp comet.

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most of them would say he was joking. because they're a professionally fuckface whisperer.

the ones that did as asked would get vaguely appreciation of their loyalty from trump himself.

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frezikreply
midwest.social

Bush II had an approval rating around 25-30% at the end of his time in office. Consider that the bottom for how many people will still support a complete and obvious failure.

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IIRC, that was about the same numbers as when Nixon got on the helicopter to fly away after resigning in disgrace. There are qons that treat their party the same way they treat their favorite sportsball team.

It doesn't matter what "their guy" does, they are with them. Seriously, donvict could be caught throwing lit puppies into traffic and he'd probably still have 25-30% with him. That's probably about the only truth donvict ever said when he talked about shooting someone on Fifth Avenue.

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lemmy.ca

I don't think we can trust the polls since there's no free press in USA anymore so as far as I'm concerned it's US government regime propaganda.

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…conducted online.

How many of those people are American? Or people, for that matter?

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rbesfereply
lemmy.ca

The free press is alive and well, for now at least. Don't be hyperbolic.

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lemmy.world

Anyone else concerned that a felon rapist who is crashing our economy still has a 43% approval rating?

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That 43% is wannabe felon rapists who wish they could crash the economy.

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lemmy.world

USA has a lot more crazy people than I ever suspected.
This lack of realization when faced with reality is way beyond any worst case scenario I ever imagined.
I thought most of the people who voted for him, simply didn't believe the warnings. Turns out they actually support that shit?!?!

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lemm.ee

They never face reality, we allowed malignant propoganda to spread and take over a huge chunk of our media presenting a false reality to many who don't have the media (or functional) literacy to understand when they're being manipulated. Half of Americans have a functional literacy below a 6th grade level - they can read the words, but the full nuanced understanding is beyond them.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

Half of Americans have a functional literacy below a 6th grade level

Is this factual? Because if that's true, that's extremely bad, even shameful for a rich country like USA.

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lemm.ee

Yes, that is factual. There's a reason newspapers are written to a 4-5th grade level, because adults need it like that.

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lemm.ee

I'm not sure what these numbers are measuring, but it looks like less than 85% of schools in the US reported their data, could be a sampling bias there. Also, this is maybe at age 15, when many of the worst readers have already dropped out of school.

It looks like most countries have shitty literary levels, then. I was unaware other countries were just as bad. A quick Google showed a few results not quite in agreement saying the average for adults was 7th-8th grade in the US, or that half were below 6th.

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I'm not saying you are wrong, more that it's probably not that much better in other countries.
This research may be skewed, because they may not test on schools they know are doing poorly?

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lemmy.world

You can thank the poisons of religion. They care about dying and going off elsewhere than EVERYTHING on Earth.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

That's why I'm not just an atheist but an anti-theist.

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I think the gutting of school funding, and the adoption of an idiotic non phonics based reading curriculum that was sold basically by some grifter over the last few decades is more to blame. Also Bush's no child left behind Pass All the The Failing Kids Anyway plan.

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lemmy.world

So many unreachable people in this country. 43%? How the fuck could it be above 10% is the mystery.

And 37% still approve of his "economic leadership"? WTAF?

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And 37% still approve of his “economic leadership”?

"You know, I saw MadMax back in the day and it seemed like the lads were having a lot of fun."

Edit: Since this is not a meme sub: You know as well as I do that this many people genuinely believe Trump when he says this is somehow good for the US. The quote I've commonly read in connection with this is "finally the other countries will be paying their fair share!".

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They do not understand and the understanding they have has been formed with propaganda for decades.

American politics has been so far from it's idealistic roots in democracy and supplanted by the wealthy for decades if not a century or longer. Allowing businesses to fund campaigns openly in the 70s has to have been a big tipping point and why we have allowed it is bizarre to me. We have basically no media today that isn't highly politicized one way or another. Bezos has altered his media to fit whatever party furthers it's business goals... like most oligarch owned businesses following suit whether or not they are media.

I don't think things can be changed anymore though. I think pandora's box opened at some point and it can't be shut again without tearing civilization down.

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lemmy.world

Ugh, I just realized this fuck wit will be president of our ruins for the 250th anniversary.

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lemmy.world

Happy thoughts my dude.

Japan is sending us some new cherry trees for our birthday. (I know its more complicated than that, but take the little moments when they happen)

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That’s really nice. I wish I could write a letter to thank Japan. Thank you for thinking of us Japan. ❤️

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Will they be tariffed? Government holds them until the people pay 10% of their value to get them planted?

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We need to take that away from him. Ignore whatever fascist shit he plans and throw giant rogue celebrations everywhere. I hate people but I will show up to counter celebrate democracy just to take away from his unearned prestige.

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i cant believe the other 57% are so useless. screw them. cant even get a majority or dont even vote. americans are pathetic. democratic party is a joke. i can easily believe 43% are with shithead. where should they have learned any better? may nancy pelosi keep inside trading, chuck schumer lie about gaza.... just shit people everywhere.

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So I've still got about even odds of encountering a fucking idiot when I meet someone.

Remind me why I should ever leave the house.

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I was exiled from Reddit. You have no idea how bad it can get until you've spent over a decade there. At least with Lemmy I don't have to scroll through dozens of juvenile puns just to get to a discussion that is soon derailed by Russian propaganda trolls.

I still miss the guitar subs, though. The idiots tended to ignore them.

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Thrashyreply
lemmy.world

Back in my day us hermit types just did our grocery shopping after 9PM, this is a whole other level.

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lemmy.world

It was sweet just before the pandemic around here, with several places going 24 hour. Now they've all reverted back with no signs of it coming back. I miss my middle of the night shopping.

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I don't think fucking idiots are evenly distributed, so the odds depend on where you go.

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lemmy.world

Still has all the power in the world. What if it dropped to 20%, would that make any difference?

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morrowindreply
lemmy.ml

The republican congress members are still voted in. They can impeach if it gets bad enough

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

And what would be bad enough that they would choose to give up their dictator?

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When the base is mad enough to throw them out if they don't. The Florida special elections didn't flip any seats, but they showed a 15-point swing away from the GOP in deep red parts of the state. That's gonna make them sweat. Unless they can sufficiently rig the midterms or sway Trump off his current "crash the economy for lulz" trajectory, it may well be a bloodbath, and that's the sort of math that starts peeling sycophants away from Trump.

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lemm.ee

They have a more controllable dictator in reserve. Thiel just needs to say the word.

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lemmy.ca

Tell me… what happens if they impeach?

The executive stops even remotely pretending to operate by the rule of law?

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nfhreply
lemmy.world

Impeachment is easy, relatively speaking. A simple majority of the House can impeach Trump as they did twice in his last term. I believe the number is 7, of 220 Republicans in the house, would need to vote to impeach.

Getting a trial in the Senate to convict and remove, which requires a two thirds vote, would need about 20 Republicans, of 53 to vote to convict. I can't imagine what would need to happen for that to occur. And even if it does, JD Vance is sworn in by Roberts as POTUS? I guess that means we're in a world where Republicans think that's better in some significant group.

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I honestly see them 25th-ing Donny Dementia before that ever happens

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lemm.ee

After today's market reaction, that's gonna drop even further...

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lemmy.ml

Down 4% today so far. Retirement fantasies evaporating. Probably good news for 20 somethings, they can buy more and if they survive the climate change famines, water wars, genocides, and non-renewable resource shortages, those shares will probably be worth a lot.

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Since his term began, my retirement has probably slipped about a year or so, and so much further to go.

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Already seeing copium on outlets like Faux where this is being compared to austerity during a war where you take it up the ass for a cause bigger than yourself....which is what, exactly? Who knows? For the glory of fat old donvict? But the magoffs lap this up.

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Give it time.

Extreme right news junkets will tell trump’s followers how to inform the objectors that this is ok, and how it’s someone else’s fault.

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lemmy.world

The lowest so far. Wait until the inflation from his new set of international tariffs and resulting retaliatory tariffs kicks in.

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Not to worry, he just taxed all the world's stuff on Americans.

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lemmy.world

Don't about things you can't change. Like who is the president. You don't actually vote for a president, the electoral college electors do. You literally vote to suggests to these random fellers who to vote for. Then, they vote for whoever the fuck gave them the new shiny car.

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person420reply
lemmynsfw.com

Our election process sucks, but it's not because of faithless electors. The vast majority of times it was because the candidate died before the election.

Since 1900, there have been only 16 faithless electors who defected for individual reasons

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lemmy.world

How about your vote is worth 1/56th or something like that in comparison to my vote just because you live in the wrong state. Or how about you are the one gay guy in a straight community so your vote on any gay related agenda means nothing. How about that?

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...yea that sucks. Like I said, our election system sucks. All I pointed out is your assertion that electors are getting new cars in order to vote against the wishes of their state isn't really a thing.

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I'm pretty sure the lowest it could go is around 35% that's when you get to the lizard alien people who think they are sending kids to mars to harvest adrenochrome out of them.

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