Spyke
kbin.melroy.org

The line at the bottom, the reply to the wall of text

"Noted. misogyny is a skill issue"

always has been

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because you think of "I never get laid" as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they're too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of "why can't I connect with a woman" and more of "when will we get our government mandated sex slaves"

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You might have a career as a Halo 3 e-sports pro then!

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Worxreply
lemmynsfw.com

I can buy a new toaster from the shop, why can't I buy a woman too? Does this mean Gamers are pro sex-work? Or pro indentured servitude for women more likely..

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Delphiareply
lemmy.world

You cant pirate pussy, and we all know how gamers feel about subscription models.

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lemmy.world

Nylon? I would think this would be a 'print the moulds we use to pour in silicone' situation, if we're going for usability. https://formlabs.com/blog/casting-silicone-guide/ On an engineering note I'm also sure I've seen this exact thing before, but I wonder what would improve it. Self-heating? DIY solution could be a hidden pocket for reusable handwarmers lol

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How does romance work in most video games? Select the correct dialogue options, memorize the correct answer to questions, give them the same gift every day?

The other main way a lot of young men “interact” with women is through porn, which is always made with a mind to what a woman would enjoy during sex…/s

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I understand it, but I don't think it applies.

Gamers tend to think of things as quests. A box to check off. A completionist. Getting married and having kids is part of life's quests for many people. It's not seen as collaboration in many ways.

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kbin.earth

"but behaved more submissively towards players with a male voice" I want to know what they mean by submissive

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"Given the chance, they would definitely lock lips with the dominant male"

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Obligatory footnote: EvoPsych is mostly bunk, deeply intertwined with eugenics and riddled with homophobia, sexism and rape apologia.

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Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.

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Evolutionary psychology. I think there’s real research in the field, but it’s drowned out by charlatans who invoke its name to lend credence to their made-up bullshit without the burden of scientific rigour.

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lemmy.zip

I have ~10k hours in counterstrike across multi game versions and accounts. I noticed a similar thing over my years. The players doing well in a match were often neutral towards gamer girls, but the guy having a shit match would be the fastest sack of shit every time. Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Obviously there are always exceptions to any rules but in my anecdotal experience the guys who were confident in their abilities didn't care about women but losers would attack them just for speaking.

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lemmy.world

Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.

Not really a gold star by the top player’s name for this, either. The comment alone leaves plenty of room to be interpreted as “girls should be easy to beat/poor gamers because they’re girls.”

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lemmy.zip

They wouldn't say "you're getting beaten by a girl" as much as they would respond to the guys losing their minds who happened to be below them on the scoreboard by saying things like "Why are you yelling at her she's playing better than you are shut up". Kinda way.

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feddit.uk

There are definitely many competent players that will be like “haha you’re getting beaten by a girl” out there, though.

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lemmy.world

Nobody ever claimed pubstompers were good people. We pubstomp precisely because we're not

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I'm not a misogynist but anybody who consistently scores top on a public server pretty much is a pubstomper asshole by definition. And I have certainly been that. You don't do it for the challenge, or you'd be doing league and more competitive modes.

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You're absolutely correct, I had a similar experience

I played CS for roughly the same amount of time; my clan ranges from DMG to Global, but we had a rule that if you were in the clan, we'd 5-man with you regardless of your rank, so if you were Silver, you'd have a chance to rub elbows and learn strategies from the higher skilled players.

Then we got a Global, a girl named Moon.

Holy hell, it's like people's brains did a 180°, they were incredibly mean to her, for no reason, and eventually it came out that she was trans, and they bullied her even worse, out of the server.

I kicked everyone who bullied/demonized Moon for being trans; because at the end of the day, it was about being a honest human being, and not just a CS player/gamer.

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lemmy.world

Man. I miss when gungame was filled with people and all the fun addons. Warcraft 3 mods, vote for knife fight, “gotcha bitch” with every knife kill.

I want to go back.

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lemmy.world

Counter Strike was way better when this was the vibe. I am so tired of competitive this and gun case that. I've never been interested in 5v5 scrimming in any serious way, but that's all CS2 wants me to do.

I want gun game, I want wc3, I want ZM. I want quirky custom maps (glass!) and quake sounds and !bet ct all. I want to fuck around with new friends on a server for an evening, not to sweat my balls off throwing practiced smokes on dust2.

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Same thing kinda happened to TF2. I mean, Competitive is dead but the server browser and community servers are not what they used to be. I miss when it was front and center. Today most people just play casual on Valve servers.

After a quick search it seems like the CS2 in-game server browser has gone to complete shit. I hope Valve fixes it. It's part of the Source Legacy.

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And the old WCFAN (We Couldn't Find A Name) servers, what was it called again, I think hillbreak? That was fun!

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lemmy.world

I have ~10k hours in counterstrike

Damn. There's 8760 hours in a year btw. That's impressive.

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lemmy.zip

If it makes you feel any better those hours were spread out over the last 10 years or longer. I can't even remember when I started. Just one of those ol' reliable games for me.

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lemmy.ml

A tenth of a year is still 36 and 1/2 days of uninterrupted cs per anum.

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lemmy.zip

And the worst part of it is that probably half of those hours happened within a few years in the middle there. I played like 6 hours a night every night with my friends. Good times but yeah....

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spookexreply
lemmy.world

Same feelings here, I used to average around 1k hours per year in my "active" years.

All of the issues with CS2 kinda put the end to that, played the beta, then stopped for a year, and now I play few games every few days

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My heavy CS days were early in csgo days. Back when the skin gambling scene and the pro scene were popping early on. My buddies and I would watch the pro games and then get all hyped to improve and we would jump into ranked only to get fucking pub stomped. Good times. Eventually we did start getting good. I only ever got to whatever rank was below global and only two of my buddies ever got to global.

However my top fps bragging moment was actually in valorant when it was a closed beta still I absolutely shat all over pro csgo player at the time named JDM in a lobby. Top fragged and completely dominated him the entire match.

That was when I peaked in my fps gaming lol. It's all been downhill since. I'm still better than most people at fps games in general, but I am not as sharp and snappy as I was when I was a younger man with way more free time to practice and improve every night.

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lemmy.zip

Well then the obvious conclusion is that respecting women makes you better at video games.

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More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning. The amount of infighting I've had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone's gender.

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lemmy.world

I don't think that's right, I'm terrible at games but I still respect women (enough to spare them from interacting with me whenever possible. Same goes for all people really)

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I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can't imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.

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lemmy.ml

So my transition from cringe lord to become a better individual overall is actually just me getting better at video game? Fair enough

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lemmy.world

Reminds me of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0361684319871913

In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren't more likely to do this based on relative status.

Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.

Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.

It seems to boil down to "who can I dominate with little risk?" Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.

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That thing about macaques is interesting.

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lemm.ee

Hate is often just a reflection of insecurities and a product of attempting to alleviate cognitive dissonance. Someone feels scared, doesn't like feeling that way, and so converts their fear into anger -- misdirected at someone else.

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Balance is the key. True that fear leads to anger and anger to hatred and a path of the dark side, but the Jedi were also guilty of dealing in absolutes until they were fighting outright fascism via space capitalism and clone contracts they built killed them all.

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I remember the last time I got messaged by some misogynist dipshit, way back in Halo 5, blaming me for losing the game. ...When he was the worst performing player in the team. I just stared at the post game report and wondered how the heck the dude even managed to get a ranking as low as he did.

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My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it's still hilarious.

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

People with jobs that aren't playing video games.

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Playing online since dialup/Internet cafe days, can confirm. Also it’s just more fun to get along.

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This is part of why confidence is attractive.

It isn't that confident humans of the male reproductive caste treat women more flippantly; it's that actual competency correlates with not being as much of an insufferable whiny piece of shit.

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lemmings.world

That’s an interesting study. It makes sense that dominance-seeking behavior follows a ‘low-risk, high-reward’ strategy across species. The connection between status, objectification, and primate behavior is fascinating Morse Code Translator—wonder if similar patterns appear in different cultural contexts.

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I was a Halo 3 try hard and if anything I was nicer to female voices because I stupidly wanted to woo them. IDK exactly what the logistics of that would have been thinking back.

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7355608reply
lemmy.world

This is probably seen through rose tinted glasses, but Halo 3 had the best multi-player experience I think. It has community created maps, game modes, and an a way for anybody with a account to share what they made. From pictures to custom forge maps. I have nothing but fond memories of the experience. So it makes sense to me at least that some people wouldn't stop playing until Microsoft or Bungie or whoever made them.

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This is definitely an objective opinion based on facts and universal experiences: the best multiplayer experience was Halo 1, when we ran ethernet cables between our dorm rooms. I'd wake up to someone slamming on my door telling me to turn my Xbox on, and I'd jump right into a death match.

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My life went down in Containment doing 1v1 splitscreem pvp with my friend.
I will never let anyone say Halo 2 was worse than any other entry.
It's either Reach, CE or 2 (in the chronological order).

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Halo 3 released on better hardware, so they included huge multiplayer maps like Sandtrap, but they hadn't yet realised that huge maps require faster traversal. As a result, your Spartan moves around like a sack of wet potatoes.

Halo 2 has the best slow multiplayer because of the tighter maps, and Halo 5 has the best fast multiplayer because of the traversal tools.

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Zorquereply
lemmy.world

Master Chief Collection came out in late 2014.

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It sucked so hard for the first 4 years that I didn’t start playing it again until 2018 when they sorta fixed it.

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ZeroOnereply
lemmy.world

I wonder what kind of person judges people (Men to be precise) as sub-humans because they didn't have sex with a woman ?

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Avicennareply
lemmy.world

lol incel club has been infested with other creepy stuff waaaay beyond just that somewhile ago. today's incels are low level IQ insults to the people who were the true incels of before, like those intelligent people who came up with 15 feb and so on.

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That summary may also explain why some men are so insecure about women earning more money than them too.

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I got hit on a couple times in Starcraft 2 of all games just because I had a feminine-sounding username. I literally got "damn girl, look at that MMR" once and it's so funny.

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lemmy.world

Can we see the study ?? Let's see how credible it is

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ZeroOnereply
lemmy.world

So no citations & only a mere opinion ? So it's clear as day then. It's a misandric hit-piece (off course it's from BBC)

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feddit.uk

WTF? Go and spend a day in the big wide world.

In the 90s I watched something and there was a woman that was becoming a fairly competent go cart racer, she quit cause the men she was competing against couldn’t stand “losing to a girl” and got quite nasty about. This won’t be a credible source though, will it?

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ZeroOnereply
lemmy.world

Of course not. Especially with supportive people like you

Since we are talking about the real world; did you deliberately omit the fact that men playing video-games are called pathetic & deadbeat losers regardless of whether they're champions or not ?

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lemmy.world

You'll need an audience with a much larger inferiority complex if you want that sort of claim to resonate.

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Why should one need an audience for that claim, when the evidence is right there on the internet & IRL

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Just seen your edit. Before I answer this question, are you seriously asking to be judged fairly after judging others unfairly?

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Kuranashireply
lemmy.world

So that makes it okay to shit on women in games? Go cope elsewhere, incel.

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ZeroOnereply
lemmy.world

Men get shat on as well but, I guess we are n9t going to address that huh, if you're going to virtue-signal as an Egalitarian, then act the part

& ah the incel slur, what are you ?? A sex-obsessed creep ?

Should I be worried about your mental well-being ?

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Take your mask off and see what happens, incel. It's always the same fucking formula, go and whine about your own tiny little insecurities every single time anything about women's experience is highlighted.

You'd find something between your ribs irl real quick if you took off your mask around the people in your life and they found out how incapable you are of even reading about half the population of the Earth's perspective without self inserting your pathetic insecurities.

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work to improve the skill gap or draw 20

acknowledge that one singular woman is currently better than you at this one particular skill or draw 20

man it's like there are options that don't involve aggression towards another person for… not being bad at a video game

I count myself lucky the men I know in real life are chill, and that I am not too interested in PvP games, scared off by the constant reinforcement from stories online that someone will be shitty to me because I am a woman. When I did play TF2 it was always pubs mic off and with a very gender-neutral username.

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Didn't sample all of the shitty halo players that are too afraid to talk to a women.

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How it feels to play as Killer in Dead By Daylight, win, and then the loser Survivors tell you in the end game chat to "get better" and that "you are trash at the game."

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

this literally has nothing to do with the game itself. it's about behavior towards other people, which is intently political.

also video games are art which makes them political as well.

the fact that you kneejerked into this reaction feels super insecure and reactionary.

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Jakob Felreply
retrolemmy.com

More like I'm just sick of people hijacking my favorite art form to express political/social issues or sexual fetishes, both of which are becoming too common. It's exactly why I've grown more and more in favor of retro gaming, back when neither of those expressions were anything but a fringe group of miserable individuals and weirdos that most gamers ignored. Not going to argue further, I've spoken my piece.

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Soggyreply
lemmy.world

"My position is so tenuous yet so important to my identity that I will not tolerate the slightest challenge."

Alternatively, "That's why my favorite book is Moby Dick, no frou-frou symbolism. Just a good simple tale about a man who hates an animal."

Psychonauts is about trauma. Fallout is anti-war. FFVII is environmentalist. Samus as a woman was an intentionally subversive choice. Video games have had socual commentary for as long as it's been able to be expressed.

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I've heard this before but "a man who hates an animal" makes me laugh so hard

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wiesonreply
feddit.org

Tetris is about trying to fit into a society, that wants to destroy you.

Space invader is about uniting all of earth's peoples against a common challenge.

Pong is about the heated but honest exchange of ideas that makes a democracy stronger.

(/jk I agree with you)

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if you think about it, in tetris once you fit perfectly you get destroyed. but if you don't, you stand and eventually help each other get to the top. maybe it's a caution against conformity.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

I'm glad, because you're talking nonsense.

what you're referring to is a time when you were a kid and didn't realize the politics. now you're aware of it and are acting like it's new. this is just illiteracy.

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Novalingreply
lemmy.zip

Ugh. Thank you, I was just about to say it myself. There's been politics in games for forever. Even the simplest shit like, "environmental destruction bad, so Sonic fight Eggman"

People are just too dumb to realize that they were kids back then...

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even mechanics can be unintentionally political. there was a really cool errant signal video years ago talking about civilization games. it was mostly about what the games idea of a "civilization" is and how the win conditions reinforced the idea that one civilization has to be the superior one to rule them all...

but also these ideas were further reinforced by the way barbarians were depicted. that word already has baggage but the interesting thing is that in civ4 they share a banner with wildlife. like, they're almost like animals or natural disasters and not people at all.

what conservatives don't understand is that you can think about things like this and acknowledge what they mean and still enjoy the game and or understand why these choices were made. they're not necessarily political choices as much as they're mechanical, but that doesn't mean we can't think about what mechanical choices might mean to the player, or what messages they send. if video games are art, they can—and I would say must—be critiqued.

fear of change is at the core of conservatism, and that drives their utter aversion to introspection, and also to criticism of things and people they like. and vice versa, they can't bring themselves to appreciate any part of anything they don't like. if they like a person they can do no wrong. if they like a game it must be perfect. if they dislike a song it's the harbinger of the fall of civilization (ooh look at me bringing it full circle).

in a world of absolutes, there can be no discussion. don't ask me to think about things please. leave your thoughts and opinions out of my fun time, lest my views get challenged. this is what's funny about the likes of ben shapiro pretending that they have the facts while liberals are too emotional. their entire world view is based on their feels, and their arguments follow those as justification.

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Trying to avoid politics are we? Got some bad news for ya…

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