Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire in Las Vegas and Kansas City
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OK buddy.
The cars suck, but he's right that the company hasn't done anything to deserve this. He's the one who chose to make himself the face of Tesla, though, so however people feel about him, they'll feel about any business he owns.
Terrorism, though? Hardly. It's protest. He's the one doing terrorism by dismantling the government.
The cars are poorly designed to the point of being dangerous. They deserve it a little.
Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature
Pretty much the definition of terrorism. Doesn't necessarily make it wrong.
That's what was so terrifying about the Patriot Act for so long.
Gonna disagree with the anarchist viewpoint because physical damage to inanimate objects can still cause PTSD, battered spouse syndrome with enough incidents over time, etc. It's the threat of danger that matters.
Just because it doesn't fit your ideological view doesn't mean people are lying by looking at it differently
Yep the idea of terrorism bad is honestly kinda overly simple. Can it be bad? Sure especially if you don't have a specific target but well the IRA, American Revolutionaries, and Zapatistas have shown that there is a good way to go about it. The term of the day is damage minimization.
Surprisingly, Star Wars is a great example of this. A rinky dink political group (rebels) blowing up a military installation (death star) is terrorism. That does not mean the action was unjustified.
It's not terrorism if it's war.
Terrorism that succeeds is called revolution.
But they're at war though, aren't they? I suppose the Empire would still spin it that way.
Yep. Nobody (okay, very few people) want to burn Teslas, or make car bombs, or dress up as indians and throw a shipment of tea into the Boston harbor, but when you live in a state where the government is no longer governing for the people (even if the people knowingly, or unknowingly selected that government), ignores it's citizens or even actively harms them, then you don't have much choice. You have to defend yourself.
Every definition that I can find says it is but maybe you'd like to provide one that says otherwise.
Its an Anarchist thing, you wouldn't get it.
Super simple version?
Violence is defined by the state in such a way that it binds the actions of its subjects, but exempts the actions of itself/its agents.
Look up 'systemic violence' or 'stochastic terrorism' and you can begin to see how it becomes harder to draw very clear lines than you seem to think is.
Lets go with your definition that violence includes acts against property.
Ok... are... taxes violence?
Is it violent to threaten you with immediate arrest if found operating a car without a valid liscense?
Howabout valid insurance?
Is civil asset forfeiture violence?
Is emminent domain violence?
Howabout clearing a homeless encampment, destroying all their belongings?
Is that violent?
Is it violent to, either intentionally or unintentionally... crash the stock market and knock about 20% off of the value of 401ks of the majority of the population?
Reminder that involuntary assault and involuntary murder / manslaughter... are violent crimes.
... The most basic definition of what a State is, is "a formalized group that has the 'legitimate' monopoly of the use of force (violence) within a defined geographic area."
So you don't have one? Glad we sorted that.
Oh, are you asking me, personally, for a definition of violence, just flat out, with no context?
I'd say violence is anything that causes unnecessary suffering to a living being, or significant damage to a nonliving thing.
What exactly do I mean by that?
Well, its quite context dependent.
Is burning down a Tesla dealership violent?
Sure!
Is a lesser act of violence in pursuit of a reduction of much, much greater violence justifiable?
Again, context matters, but generally speaking, the world is built upon violence, people just disagree about when it is justified.
If a man has pummeled you with hammer blows, you'd be justified in doing some violence back to him to get him to stop.
If a cartoon supervillain has become either the most or second most poweful man in the world, he has a history of and declared intention to commit mass systemic violence against hundreds of millions of people... and burning down some of his shittily designed and built self-immolating cars stands a good chance at knocking him, his grip on the minds of his idiot sycophants, and his overall level of power and influence down a peg?
When there are no 'legitimate' means that will effectively do this, effectively lessen his capacity to do violence against millions?
When this harms only things directly, and not people? When those things are overpriced luxury items?
Well, I'd rather not keep taking the hammer blows.
If you've got a more peaceful way to stop the hammering, I'd love to hear it... but my bones are breaking.
Yes, but that definition also defines... basically all the most heinous things that Trump and those around him have done in the last... 5 years, lets say? ... as terrorism.
Remember CPAC, 2022?
... kinda speaks for itself.
You can make that argument but you're not arguing that burning down a Tesla dealership isn't terrorism, you're just making a whataboutism.
Yes, that is basically what I am doing.
Was that not clear?
I am attempting to point out the given definition of terrorism is quite broad, and easily interpreted subjectively depending on your biases.
Burn down a Tesla dealership?
Terrorism.
Boston Tea Party?
Terrorism.
Jan 6th?
Terrorism.
Bay of Pigs Invasion?
Terrorism, more technically 'State Terrorism'.
Many, many acts of resistance groups in German occupied Europe during WW2?
Also Terrorism.
Order an extrajudicial assasination? Order or carry out mass arrests without proper warrants or authority?
Plant false evidence or fabricate some kind of 'suspicious behavior' to justify an arrest or detainment or use of force or conviction, motivated by a political/religious/ethic/etc bias?
Again, Terrorism, though more specifically that is 'State Terrorism'.
Saying "I am going to kill [very important political figure]"?
Terrorism.
Pilot a ship on the sea to harass dragnet fishing boats or whalers?
Terrorism.
Any protest group that has 'illegally' gathered in an area or building without a permit, where a single person threw a punch or resisted arrest?
Again, also terrorism.
... All of these things either are or could easily be interpreted to be both violent and criminal acts, with either a motivation or desired effect being biased toward some specific group of people.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
You may note that precisely defining terrorism is actually somewhat difficult, as indicated by the wide range of different definitions used by different groups and at different times, and is actually the subject of a whole lot of academic and legal debate and disagreement, with slight but very significant differences over time and place/jurisdiction.
There we go, hahah!
Then we are in agreement
Great!
I am glad you agree that by your (the FBI's current) definition, most police in the US are terrorists, every President going back to at least JFK is a terrorist, everyone who violently resisted the Nazis were terrorists, and every single protest everywhere, ever, that has involved any single member of that protest being charged with resisting arrest has also been terrorism.
Rather it is vandalism, because Terrorism, its acts cause terror in the population.
nobody is terrified, except for billionaires, like crybaby musk.
I don't understand what you wrote but the two are not mutually exclusive.
And yet they're different things in this context anyways.
I didn't say they weren't different.
Then your pedantry was either pointless or a rhetorical attempt to derail the conversation.
Spraypaint a traffic camera, violence.
So what I'm hearing is, if you burn Tesla because their CEO is a scum-sucking useless billionaire who is dismantling the social services that you and your family rely on (and paid for!), in order to cut taxes for the 1%, you're a terrorist.
If you set shit on fire because you like to watch stuff burn, you're just a plain ol' arsonist.
If that's what you're hearing, you should have your ears checked. It doesn't matter who the offending person is or what they do. It only matters what the perpetrator does.
Yes, I believe that is what I wrote.
No, what you wrote is:
Ah, so any property destruction is terrorism, got it. Thanks for clarifying.
Not sure why some people are disagreeing - it for sure fits the definition. I'm not exactly sad about it - Musk is helping to rip apart the country and I have a hard time blaming people who feel that helping to rip apart one of his companies is about all they can do - but committing arson to further an ideology is terrorism.
They don't like the connotation. Which is fair. Nuance is hard and if you say "yes, we're terrorists" there's no way that's not going to be wielded against "your people" in the court of public opinion.
But facts are facts.
It's property damage that was done specifically to avoid hurting people. By that interpretation, Banksy could also be classified as a terrorist.
Man that's some podium level mental gymnastics.
Is it though?
This is the Orwellian shit you're advocating when you start classifying vandalism as terrorism.
Yes, it is. I don't know what "a triangle with a symbol in it" is but if it's associated with an ideology then that fits the definition, yes. Judges and juries are allowed to exercise discretion, and I hope that they do. That has no bearing on whether it is or is not terrorism.
With this definition, a government can do anything it wants without it being terrorism because it gets to decide what's criminal. So while it may be terrorism by definition, that definition is pretty useless without a lot of context.
This is resisting, not furthering, ideological goals.
Could you state the ideological goal of these attacks?
fuckelon
I'd say that's an ethos rather than an ideology.
lifestyle baby
It's the same thing.
Seriously? You need that explained to you? How much time do you have? Eccentric billionaire seeks to destroy democracy, manipulate the public, oppress and marginalize it's people, consolidate wealth in the elite class, dismantle federal institutions that check him, defy the law, for starters. You haven't heard about any of this? The "ideological goal" is to end it.
Sorry but I really don't think it's the same thing. People are motivated to do this to oppose an ideology, not to promote one. They could come from almost any ideological starting point, and all they want, essentially is a return to the status quo.
Again, which ideology does this action promote?
There's no need to apologize for disagreeing. Just explain yourself.
How can you not see that those are the same thing?
I just explained that in great detail in the comment you replied to...
Opposing the construction of a highway is not the same as trying to construct a highway.
This is terrorism. Storming the capitol is clearly not.
The board needs to remove Elon today.
They just paid fucking 60 billion dollars to him to keep him from quitting. Maybe a smidge of sunk cost fallacy.
If trump had lost the election, he would be in jail and Elon would have been destroyed. Instead, we got… this.
I think Elon would have been better off if Trump lost. I dunno though. He bought Twitter for 44 billion, and that seems to have let him buy the presidency for a mere 200 million. So maybe it's money well spent.
Good. Let them drown with their sinking ship. They enabled his power grab in the first place and decided something as perverted and absurd as granting a single man $60 billion. Let this be a lesson in history books.
Did that actually get paid out? Last I heard the judge said no, multiple times.
Yep. There was another shareholder vote and he won it.
No. As of 7 days ago, he has not been paid the $50 billion. The judge's order is holding for now.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/12/elon_musk_appeals_voided_pay_package/
Oh huh. I just remember him winning the new shareholder vote for which I believe the stakes were "gimme money or I leave" despite there being no legal requirement to pay him.
the honeymoon from the election is just wearing off.
the board are his handpicked toadies that have him a bonus despite tesla losing money
You can remove him from the board but he'll still have all of his shares. And I'd bet he's not really doing much as Tesla these days anyway.
Not much except getting their dealerships torched.
My point was that they're doing what they're doing to hurt Elon. Removing Elon from the board does not prevent them from hurting Elon.
Even if they do, protests and boycotts need to continue past it. A lot of his wealth is in Tesla stock, and he's going to benefit from the shadows if the public moves on and TSLA recovers.
It’s not terrorism. They were just peacefully touring the dealerships. Just like January 6. Peacefully touring.
"Evil attacks", like we're killing puppies, or something.
It's vandalism against machines, and the only victim here is the insurance companies.
Leave the puppy killing to the expert, Kristi Noem.
Also some people who bought teslas before all this happened having their rates go up. And the people who had their Tesla vandalized or totaled who didn't get a good enough payout from insurance to replace it (if you've ever dealt with insurance you know you're not getting the actual value back). I'm not saying I'm losing sleep over it, but still.
I had a friend buy a Tesla after Elon was talking about buying twitter but before one could objectively say he went full fash, and I told him he'd be embarrassed about it eventually. He went through with it because it had X features or whatnot. Do I feel bad for him? A little, but it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall. Obviously once Elon was with Trump 24/7 he said he regretted it, but it's a bit late for that.
There's no ethical consumption under capitalism, so it sucks to see consumers be targeted, but I understand. I have a phone and I'm sure somewhere child slavery was involved. Does that make me a bad person? Yes, the answer is objectively yes. We're all making shitty choices every day and if one day someone decides to draw the line and I'm on the wrong side of it, I guess I'll just have to cope. That's kinda how I feel about it. So Tesla owners are being harmed too, but I don't know that I'd call them victims of anything except their own decisions. I'm not sure they deserve it all equally, but we all kinda suck so whatever.
Problem with setting Teslas on fire is we can't know if it's an act of protest or if they just did that on their own.
The incident in Kansas City genuinely does sound like one just caught itself on fire.
HERE COMES THE SUM
They've become sentient, and are committing suicide.
This made me laugh out loud at my desk. Thank you
Probably a lot of the time it is. Nows a great time to do it if you're gonna.
Saw a post earlier where a guy was 42,000$ underwater on his and wanted to offload it at that big of a loss before his insurance dropped it entirely.
*$42,000. You saved no time in typing it wrong and look stupid. Congratulations.
you may be right but holy shit who cares lol
Nah, 42,000$ is more natural and consistent with other units.
LoL 😂
Exactly 🤣🔥
We know that Teslas sometimes just catch fire on their own.
We also know that sometimes Tesla drivers will set their cars on fire themselves on purpose. Because of that...
We also know that Elon has a backdoor into all Teslas.
Now ask yourself which is more likely, the woke liberal crybabies actually causing violence or a drug addled and politically embattled CEO of a company that lost 50% of its value in the past 3 months creating a false flag to villainize the left and get insurance to cover damage to the vehicles he can't sell?
/s (kind of)
Didnt the Nazi party burn down the Reichstag and blame it on the other party?
They blamed it on the communist party, yes. There were 8 parties represented in the Reichstag at the time though.
Thank you. My history has unfortunately become a bit rusty
If unsold teslas catch fire, i'm convinced it's some insurance scam. A car sold and a car gone that they can't fix anyway
They've already shown what they are capable of, in terms of scam behavior, up in Canada.
Given Elons history, it's definitely possible.
Wdym by "backdoor into all Teslas"
What I know from publicly-confirmed information: Tesla (hence Musk) have access to the camera feeds, GPS location, remote unlock, remote control of the driving at least sufficient to back the car out of a parking stall to facilitate repossession, and, of course, remote software update. The latter could provide full remote access to everything through new software.
Thats horrifying!
For the Vegas incident, I'm pretty sure those were customer cars at a collision center.
if you know anything about who did it no you don't
It's obviously the MAGA crowd. They've spent years complaining about electric vehicles. They've just escalated that to burning them out. The police need to go have a nice chat with the rolling coal types.
Probably god's will or something. What's the pont of investigating.
The engineers did this, Teslas just kind of do this.
Maybe, maybe this is actually stochastic terrorism being carried out by MAGA themselves.
Think about it, their plan is to declare martial law - right? Conservatives already hate EVs, they think that Trump is a 'good' billionaire while billionaires like Gates are 'bad' billionaires - I don't think it would take much to make Musk out to be a 'bad' billionaire.
Idk if this is as clear as 'good guys vs bad guys' - these are freedom fighters, but it's never been clearer that a lot of people are divided on what 'free' actually means. You shouldn't assume that the people doing this are actually on your side.
MAGA don't even like EV's to begin with.
maybe im deep in the conspiracy but I'm unsure who is doing the vandalism at this point
Insurance fraud due to slow sales
perfect. let's see if all tesla dealerships do it
Oh no. Anyway..
Been thinking about this a lot. They can say it’s terrorism. History is written by the winners.
But…
Rebellion is constitutional, but not legal. If you rebel, you die a terrorist or live a hero. Not much middle ground.
Sure, "we the people" control the government, so technically we can destroy it when we want. However, "we the people" also want a stable government that prevents the minority from ruining things for the majority.
So if you're going to rebel, you need be very careful that you're on right side, otherwise I think the rest are justified in calling you a terrorist.
Exactly!
Scary.
Welcome to reality
How americans see themselves after cowardly vandalising some idiot's car
On face value sure but if they as a vehicle become uninsurable Thats all the better for the world. Those cars are deathtraps anyway.
How Republicans feel after murdering a woman by deciding the fetus is more important.
Hahaha 😂 10/10 meme
I’m not a big fan of that but I did notice there’s a new 2025 model y. At this point if you buy a Tesla you have it coming. If I saw someone destroying that I would look the other way.
Then I'm using plastic straws again, it's on you buddy!
I don’t really get your point, but I think that’s a UN thing. I actually like paper straws. More nucleation points make the drink taste fizzier. Unless it’s a smoothie….
obvious sarcasm is not obvious enough?
Sorry m8te, I don’t know who you are so not sure when you’re being sarcastic! I rely on “/s” these days but I hear ya now load and clear. Hope you have a sick/awesome day!
Same to you, good night
Intelligence is faster than you.
Too bad roasted CEO isn't on the menu yet
that I would respect
I like that the picture doesnt show his belly. Yeah minus the muscles that could be me for sure.
Not me, I'm not getting on a horse if that bottle isn't full of beer.
What about the Germans and the French? Are they cowards too?
They know how to riot if they have too.
I have never, and will never, see anyone vandalize a Tesla. 🙈
Oh no. Anyways.
I didn't see nuffin
"Trump administration looking to categorize Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism" Because Republicans are cowards without principles who can never even think of opposing him.
Not having the phone with you is critical. But I assume planning is done on a laptop or desktop that is obviously not taken with?
Yep, anonymous browsers, burner accounts, and a VPN if you can. Privacy.sexy is your friend too.
You just want to set yourself up as best you can for the defense of "you can't prove that was me."
Tor browser/ I use a VPN most of the time. But for REALLY sensitive shit I turn Tor on. A lot of stuff can be purged off your computer. I use Windows 11 (haven't migrated to Linux yet! Ugh!) but I have some failsafes to reduce my location data and the amount I am exposed. It isn't perfect (nothing is) but it is better than nothing.
I have zero evidence Musk ordered the Tesla vandalism. Which, coincidentally, is exactly how surprised I'd be to find out he had.
I'd be surprised if he did. He sees Teslas as an extension of himself. Which is why it's so very effective at upsetting him whenever people do stuff like this.
he almost cried on fox the other day.
That was an act
Man, if I had the poor luck/foresight to have purchased a Tesla earlier, I would be driving like the politest mofo in existence these days.
Those damn leftists!
Can't believe the Insurrection Act is gonna be used because of homie's swasticars
"Resist" is a tired slogan of the paid-to-lose Democrats, and the last time I saw it surface as "angry-Leftist vandalism" in pluto-fash corporate media propaganda, it turned out to be a Republican trying to cover up insurance fraud. They are too incurious to understand the difference between antifa and liberals.
Kool-aid-drinking Tesla dealers are losing their shirts because Glorious Leader locked them into bad contracts and is now poisoning the brand; they have AMPLE incentive to destroy their own property and play victim.
As a reminder, Tesla is "direct to consumer" and the "dealership" is corporate owned!
So when the party of conspiracy theorists claims conspiracy against them, you can rest assured it's a conspiracy by them.
But that's what they'd say if the the tables were turned, so fuck 'em and their shit. I hope the insurance adjuster finds a way out and leaves them holding the bag.
Gasoline powered vehicles have to be sold through dealerships, but of course Musk doesn't like to follow the law and nobody stops him. Just like how 'ride shares' pretended to be sharing rides but were just cabs with extra steps.
The laws are by state. You cannot buy a Tesla at a dealership in states where the law forbids it. They sell them online only in those states. That's what happens when states don't update laws.
What…? Lots of vehicles are sold online without dealerships, where’s this an actual rule, let alone a law?
I don't care who burns 'em. So long as they're burnt.
Oh no!
Anyway...
Ohhhhhh nooooooooooo! Let me grab my very tiny violin.
Oh no! they should be dismantled instead of burned. Some of those electric motors could be put into better use.
Spontaneous combustion
Good. Do more.
They need to diversify their strategy.
Keep it up!
Very fucking GOOD.
Stick to the showrooms and dealers. The victims in Las Vegas was just owners who brought their cars in to be fixed.
they should amend this Wikipedia article to include teslas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_combustion
As a someone from Kansas City I want to say, this is who we are.
Surely it was a glitch that set the Teslas on fire themselves and no one was involved.
Tesla just likes building things that spontaneously catch on fire. 🤷♂️
These things happen sometimes…
Nice.
multiple is not enough.
Oh no anyway…
Looks like false flag.
Don't destroy Tesla cars, destroy the brand. Destroying Teslas means there's fewer Teslas and that makes them more valuable/reduces the flooding of the market caused by people selling their cars. The goal is to annihilate Elon's purchasing power to stop him from using it to implementing fascist governments around the world.
In fairness, I think the possibility that someone might light your car on fire is a stronger incentive to not buy a brand than internet posts making fun of the brand. It also means now they have to beef up security at all of the dealerships. Car sales are surprisingly impulse driven, hence the famous high pressure sales tactics, so it'll be harder to get people in the door if they're strip searching everyone and if they can't have as much inventory on the lot, customers can't drive home with the options they want so less impulse buying. Also full coverage insurance, required for financing, will get more expensive or even impossible to obtain which possibly means a massively decreased customer pool.
I think a better counter argument is the environmental damage caused by lighting all the cancer boxes on fire.
Do teslas even have options? Isn't it just the battery pack and awd/rwd and then performance
I looked a few years ago when a friend of my partner got a Tesla a few years ago. Picking a color cost like €2000 or so.
Tesla has much higher output than the number of vehicles that spontaneously combust. So the supply shortage you envision won't occur unless cars light up by the hundreds or thousands a day. And that's before accounting for all the extra slack in production created by decreasing demand around the world.
Teslas combusting damages the brand. It's a material risk of owning a Tesla. It would also mean higher insurance. In fact beyond some combustion threshold, Teslas would become uninsurable. Therefore Teslas on fire directly contributes to decreasing Elon's purchase power.
Tough shit.
Thank god
But it’s not on fire?
how does this benefit anyone? I would rather disassemble it/sell it.
Reduce sales because it will put people off buying one, in theory…
especially people are buying the trucks despite what musk is doing, so the customers are totally ignorant, and also supporting people like musk. alot of people were still buying teslas since 2022 takeover twitter, most of them are complicit.
They're helping put Tesla stock on sale to kindly help new investors get a piece of the company.
Driving up insurance rates is certainly a possibility.
Is the idea to hurt people that bought Teslas a few years ago?
Hurting them hurts musk. Bad roll of the dice but it's working.
Wouldn’t destroying the unsold Teslas and their shops be a better application of energy? That would directly and immediately hurt Tesla, both by destroying their stock, and raising or making them uninsurable. And they are fewer but contain a lot more value. Making individual buyers suffer seems stupid to me, when there seem to me much more efficient methods available
By setting fire to Irish houses in Ireland that were built by the British?
Drives down the price of teslas.
Arson isn't essential. A non violent act would be throwing eggs at the swasticar.
Now, is not a time for non violent rebellion.
I think it's always time for non violent rebellion. Make them take the first shot and they'll make it plainly obvious to even the biggest supporters of the regime that they're the baddies. Convince those with power to exercise it.
Apparently eggs cost a lot in the US now
Cut the balls, don't just dust them.
You think the coup attempt that ended lives is just as bad as property damage?
So you agree they arnt morally equivalent?
Glad to hear it comrade
Tesla will simply give the people new vehicles. If one wants to really hurt Tesla, don't buy them.
still figuring out car bombs....
Thanks for hurting the environment I guess. Could have just boycotted tesla products and corporate tesla
When you commit "terrorism" against the fascist enemies of the American people, is not terrorism it's the right thing to do
Wow. Having not read the article (just the headline)… I seriously don’t understand why people torch/destroy other peoples stuff! Yes Elon bad, but why attack innocent civilians?! 10-ish years ago, you were considered a leftist nutjob with a hardon for climate change when you bought a Tesla (note: I do firmly believe in climate change), these days you’re a nazi driving the exact same car?… Debate, discussion, even disagreement between parties is all fine and dandy, but actually destroying other peoples property is - in my honest opinion - against the very thing people ‘are fighting for’.
because true love is only possible in the next world, for new people. it is too late for us. so they wreak havoc on the middle class. tesla owners aren't exactly in the same working class that the arsonist is likely radicalized by being a part of. burning the cars send a message to nazis, to elon directly, and to a lesser but still real extent, the petty bourgeois class that acts as the operating oppressive arm of the oligarchy. not saying its right or moral or good or bad for any cause, just likely the mindset of someone who is setting fire to nazi cars in 2025.
A tesla is well within the range of affordable for a working class person. Someone with a decent job will be making 100k, and it's not hard to get a Tesla on that budget.
100k would put you right in the middle class. a working class person is going to be making less than like 65k a year and supporting a family on that.
Working class does not mean poor. It means people who work for their living. You have frontline manual labor workers who make over 100k and you dare suggest that just because they put in the work to unionize, that they aren't working class?
Good grief.
Imagine having to resort to violence against a private company just because you lost an election LMAO 🤣
You guys do realize that by promoting this, you are doing JD Vance's campaign for him, right?
The stunlock continues at pace.
If the major stakeholder and CEO is actively being an unelected politician addressing policy changes onto the public, then repercussions need to happen.
It would not be wise to show people that they can achieve plutocracy. Plutocrats only lose their power by losing their wealth, so if that's what has to happen, then that is the plan.