I'm convinced there are people out there that just downvote everything. They get some kind of chemical release in their brains when they hit the downvote button. You could say "being happy feels good" and someone out there will downvote it.
I think it's fat fingering then others dont think for themselves and just go with whatever it already is.
Feels awful when you had a creative comment but just didn't spell it out well enough and it gets like 3 downvotes 🥲
like noo I didn't mean it in a bad way, I just like falling asleep to technical videos and that's a compliment coming from me 😭😭
All the tired puns or jokes about Nazis/Hitler. "Anne Frankly, I did Nazi that coming!" "You gotta hand it to Hitler, at least he killed Hitler." Etc.
It's the kind of thing you might chuckle at once, but so many comment threads end up piled with the same brain rot nonsense as people trip over themselves to parrot their quirky internet catchphrases.
I actually found myself tempted to say exactly that earlier today. Someone said something about sucking, and my initial instinct was, "That's what she said!", but then I thought about the audience and felt like the gender neutral "they" might be more appropriate, but I wasn't really sure, so instead I said nothing.
Every single comment thread on anything that reaches r/all quickly devolving into the most unfunny and unoriginal jokes and/or references. Regardless of how grim/serious the original post was.
Novelty/troll accounts. I've seen a lot of them pop up on Reddit over the years. The most infamous one I remember was one called Gradual_****** (yes, the n-word) that would type out ordinary replies that would gradually switch to ebonics.
I recall that from many years ago. Some of the wayward white American culture on that site is definitely off putting. That user was generally received well which says a lot about the soul of a community (or if it even has one).
It's weird, not once have I wanted to comment "this" on Lemmy. But I did it all the time on Reddit. Maybe because I felt a disconnect between voting (rewarding a comment that contributed) and agreeing with the comment.
Maybe the comments on Lemmy are not so knee-jerk and numerous that there's not a reason to simply show agreement.
Karma requirements for subs like r/assistance . Dear god fckin HOPE karma dœsn't get added to lemmy …
Already answered similar thread to this one 2 yrs ago , but threadiverse changed somewhat since then . Had different answers some of them already made their way here since , so gave different answers this time
Communities almost wholly moderated by an automod bot, that is extremely strict about nonsense, and where 99% of posts are strictly forbidden.
"ALL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE IN THE MEGATHREAD!!!!!!!!1111111111one" and then you peep the megathread, it's months-full of unanswered questions because no actual community member READS the fucking megathread, and then the excuse is "BECAUZ WE WANT QUALITY CONTENT!!!!!!" and you check the sub itself and the "quality content" is one post every 3 months by the powermod that has the power to override the bot.
This was the most annoying thing about Reddit and made getting conversations going nearly impossible. PLEASE do not bring that over.
The hive mind might already be here, depending on who you ask. I was already left/progressive, though, so it just feels like hanging out with like-minded people.
Jerks I can do without, but they’re unavoidable. Simply not engaging with them seems to work best.
I feel like to a point it might be, but to a point in today's age and internet - everything is an echo chamber so it's turned into a "pick ypur poison" kind of thing.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
Doxxing is explicitly against their code of conduct: "Do not publish, comment, message, or post personally identifiable information about other users. We also strongly discourage posting any personally identifiable information about yourself." They are the only instance that doesn't log IP addresses in their database and scrubs meta-data from any image uploaded there.
Where are their communities dedicated to brigading? There is no actual proof of them doing anything like that, more so it is the most active instance (4.9 million comments) so anyone posting blatant lies like you will be confronted.
Hexbears troll and give personal attacks against either those that start it with them or people who are racist, homophobic, transphobic, or ableist.
And the US doesn't torture prisoners. And Russia didn't invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989...
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don't apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you'll find plenty of similar ones.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
A result of decentralization. There absolutely are instances full of insufferable whatevers for many varieties of whatever, but being decentralized makes it a lot harder for them to utterly own all discussion on a topic in the way that often happens on Reddit.
What you on about, brother? Isn't this a place on the internet, here thanks to god's favourite country ? Clearly everyone can relate to the quintessential USA-ian experience!
And what's that about Eurocentrism, look at a map, Europe is dead center! Asia is to the east and Americas to the west... Relative to Europe!
The constant chasing of low hanging fruit. Doesn’t matter if it’s seeking the upvotes for a cheap quip on a serious subject or reposting the same old shit trying to get upvotes.
Reposts. We don’t need a constant churn of popularity seekers.
The hive mind. Really bad in big subs on reddit. Probably inevitable in any large online group, but reddit can be unreasonably bad.
Constant reposts and lack of any critical thinking or engagement. It is insane to think that every post I have put on here so far, I am new, has had more interaction that the gigantic 'active' user base of Reddit.
It's a code phrase to identify other Redditors in real life. If you ask someone, "When does the narwhal bacon?" they answer, "At midnight." Then you both know you are part of the cool secret Reddit club.
It started in this thread. A user was bored at an airport and tried to identify other traveling Reddit users for fun.
Too late, but at least alternatives pop up more quickly here. I'm not going near any of the 196 coms, but it's a good example of how little power bad mods here have.
Mod impunity, brigading, bots, reposts, repost bots, banning of 3rd-party apps, abuse of suicide prevention system by bad actors.
Aside from the forum-specific culture, the site's frequent failure to upload/post comments, which sometimes resulted in 100% loss of more detailed responses, was incredibly disappointing (I'm still Ctr-C'ing all comments everywhere as a force of habit to guarantee it won't happen 5+ times/day).
Putting the word “porn” in community titles for anything involving photography or gfx. It’s immature and unnecessarily crude. I think it’s too late though.
I've seen this said before, actually. I agree, and I think some people will give me funny looks when they see me at cableporn (really neat cables) or something like that.
I upvote or leave neutral opinions and arguments I disagree with if they're well argued or otherwise contribute to discussion and strengthen respectful discourse.
I don't know how you feel when your posts get sum-negative scores, but it makes me feel rejected and makes me not want to participate. I receive it as a social indicator. I see it as something that leads us towards echo chambers.
Yeah, I try to do this as well. I may not agree, but if they’re making an attempt at good faith argument and are holding a position that is not objectively wrong I’ll upvote or at least not downvote. I’ll always upvote someone who appears to accept that they might not have the higher ground. People still voteshame when someone tries to admit reconsidering a position, it sucks because that’a a disincentive to learning. It’s far too easy to emotionally knee-jerk downvote someone just because you don’t like what they said.
Of course, this is pretty subjective…someone can be right and a complete ass and get a downvote or you might disagree for reasons other than the presented info, but so far Lemmy users seem far more inclined to moderate downvotes or at least tolerate some opinions and dish back with rebuttals rather than just mashing downvotes.
This.
And my axe!
I've never got that joke
It's a Lord of the Rings reference. Here's an explanation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/docze/i_give_up_what_does_and_my_axe_mean/
Ahhhhhh thanks for empowering me with knowledge
It was the trite expressions that got blanketed after gaining popularity for me. Lookin' at you, "fuck around find out/FAFO" 🙄
"This" used get downvoted into oblivion back in the day on Reddit.
OH GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH. I shouldn't but I do
Edit: Thanks for the upvotes!
edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
Edit: omg my first gold and it's about buttholes smh
Edit: you'll never know why I got these upvotes (more on YT, but I think it applies here also)
Karma-farming. Please lets just be our genuine, authentic, awful selves.
It helps that we have no karma. Also, some instances bouncing downvotes helps a bit.
What’s bouncing downvotes?
Some servers ignore downvotes from other servers.
Thank you I have yet to learn a lot stuff about lemmy
Those god awful ads that disguise themselves as posts.
fucking cake days
Thats already here.
edit: don't know why I was downvoted, its literally a lemmy feature.
I'm convinced there are people out there that just downvote everything. They get some kind of chemical release in their brains when they hit the downvote button. You could say "being happy feels good" and someone out there will downvote it.
I would say they just fat-fingered it. hopefully.
I think it's fat fingering then others dont think for themselves and just go with whatever it already is.
Feels awful when you had a creative comment but just didn't spell it out well enough and it gets like 3 downvotes 🥲
like noo I didn't mean it in a bad way, I just like falling asleep to technical videos and that's a compliment coming from me 😭😭
A feature that's carried over from reddit is utterly random downvotes sometimes
The only way to stop that is to remove the downvote button.
People will always fat-finger or vote based on emotion.
They are, I wish them sometimes when I know the person. It's quite nice
Charging developers for API access after they go out of their way to make products that greatly improve the experience.
All the tired puns or jokes about Nazis/Hitler. "Anne Frankly, I did Nazi that coming!" "You gotta hand it to Hitler, at least he killed Hitler." Etc.
It's the kind of thing you might chuckle at once, but so many comment threads end up piled with the same brain rot nonsense as people trip over themselves to parrot their quirky internet catchphrases.
Those are like pronoun and vegan "jokes"; maybe the first or second one is funny, but they get unfunny FAST.
So I think I have a good one, actually.
That's what they said.
That's it, really, an inclusive update on an old stupid joke.
I suspect I'm still the only one to find it funny.
I actually found myself tempted to say exactly that earlier today. Someone said something about sucking, and my initial instinct was, "That's what she said!", but then I thought about the audience and felt like the gender neutral "they" might be more appropriate, but I wasn't really sure, so instead I said nothing.
That's why it's fun, at least to me.
You snap out of the conversation and go over the permutations. It's funnier that way.
Don't worry, we only have Stalinist jokes here.
Every single comment thread on anything that reaches r/all quickly devolving into the most unfunny and unoriginal jokes and/or references. Regardless of how grim/serious the original post was.
I dunno I kinda liked that. Something something broken arms
And my axe!
Especially egregious: someone quotes a Simpsons/South Park/whatever episode and the next 20 comments are people quoting the rest of the episode
We get it. You watched a hugely popular TV show. So did everybody. That's why it was hugely popular.
ngl I kinda liked that to some degree
Novelty/troll accounts. I've seen a lot of them pop up on Reddit over the years. The most infamous one I remember was one called Gradual_****** (yes, the n-word) that would type out ordinary replies that would gradually switch to ebonics.
A lot of the original ones for year ago were pretty good like shitty watercolour
I really enjoyed the art accounts and shittymorph.
I actually enjoyed some of those accounts, but for sure some of them were annoying.
I recall that from many years ago. Some of the wayward white American culture on that site is definitely off putting. That user was generally received well which says a lot about the soul of a community (or if it even has one).
Just commenting 'this' to show an agreement.
This
Should have known........
As in, the question at hand, or people just commenting "this?
Just commenting "This".
Yea, I should have been clearer.
It's weird, not once have I wanted to comment "this" on Lemmy. But I did it all the time on Reddit. Maybe because I felt a disconnect between voting (rewarding a comment that contributed) and agreeing with the comment.
Maybe the comments on Lemmy are not so knee-jerk and numerous that there's not a reason to simply show agreement.
Anti-emoji.
I'm not gonna bomb the place with them, but, occasionally if it fits, I'm throwing it in.
Cheers! 🍻
You've got 3 emojis in your name.... I think you might use them more than most by a decent margin haha.
Do they show on my comments? I only see them on my profile page.
On jerboa, I see 😈 MedicPig 🐷 BabySaver 😈 as your name on all comments
Cool
With sync I see them in your name for every comment you leave.
Cool
I don't see them with boost.
Me, either.
There's a lot of emoji haters here
I installed a blocker in firefox.
hell yeah 🤙
“My dad spent 10 years molesting me, my mom said to invite him to my wedding, AITA for saying no?”
Already answered similar thread to this one 2 yrs ago , but threadiverse changed somewhat since then . Had different answers some of them already made their way here since , so gave different answers this time
Did you just give a regex as an example of the subreddit names?
Yes . The ".*" what I use to mean "etc"
That explains why my mind just glazed over lol.
Karma was a thing in early Lemmy but it was removed by popular demand. I can't see them ever adding it back.
Counter argument:
GROND
I loved the spammy bots in LOTR memes & Prequelmemes comms
I dunno I've met guys as douchey as frosting guy
Just one. JUST. ONE.
Communities almost wholly moderated by an automod bot, that is extremely strict about nonsense, and where 99% of posts are strictly forbidden.
"ALL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE IN THE MEGATHREAD!!!!!!!!1111111111one" and then you peep the megathread, it's months-full of unanswered questions because no actual community member READS the fucking megathread, and then the excuse is "BECAUZ WE WANT QUALITY CONTENT!!!!!!" and you check the sub itself and the "quality content" is one post every 3 months by the powermod that has the power to override the bot.
This was the most annoying thing about Reddit and made getting conversations going nearly impossible. PLEASE do not bring that over.
I found one subreddit that had no active mods, and a bot that admittedly did a pretty good job, but the subreddit was totally dead as a result.
I could do without all the fascism.
Being a jerk and the hive mind
The hive mind might already be here, depending on who you ask. I was already left/progressive, though, so it just feels like hanging out with like-minded people.
Jerks I can do without, but they’re unavoidable. Simply not engaging with them seems to work best.
I feel like to a point it might be, but to a point in today's age and internet - everything is an echo chamber so it's turned into a "pick ypur poison" kind of thing.
That being said, open discourse and actual conversation seems more prevalent and easier to come by here then on reddit which is very nice.
True.
Plus, I had forgotten how much I missed actual conversation!
I think the different instances help with that, as it encourages at least some interaction outside of your direct bubble...
That said when Hexbear re-enable federation I very much doubt "open discourse" or "actual conversation" will be the results
Oh I hadn't heard about that. Could you elaborate at all or point me in the direction of some more info?
Hexbear is a tankie instance that celebrates & encourages doxing, trolling & personal attacks and has large communities dedicated to brigading.
They disabled federation due to technical issues regarding domain registration but are planning on re-enabling it once it's fixed
You are a shameful liar.
Doxxing is explicitly against their code of conduct: "Do not publish, comment, message, or post personally identifiable information about other users. We also strongly discourage posting any personally identifiable information about yourself." They are the only instance that doesn't log IP addresses in their database and scrubs meta-data from any image uploaded there.
Where are their communities dedicated to brigading? There is no actual proof of them doing anything like that, more so it is the most active instance (4.9 million comments) so anyone posting blatant lies like you will be confronted.
Hexbears troll and give personal attacks against either those that start it with them or people who are racist, homophobic, transphobic, or ableist.
And the US doesn't torture prisoners. And Russia didn't invade Ukraine. And nothing happened in China on 4th June 1989...
The rules are completely unenforced, and also generally don't apply for actions against people on other instances. Take a look at slop as the biggest example where they link to other instances and swathes of Hexbear users go brigade that post without even taking the time to factcheck, and look around at their other communities and you'll find plenty of similar ones.
A result of decentralization. There absolutely are instances full of insufferable whatevers for many varieties of whatever, but being decentralized makes it a lot harder for them to utterly own all discussion on a topic in the way that often happens on Reddit.
That's a good point! I hadn't considered that previously.
Yep the pure nastiness hasn't crossed over thank fuck
I think it has, sadly. But I block a lot to prevent it.
Fingers crossed it stays low level
I'm not a fan of 'starter packs'
As in, the memes? Fair enough.
Eh, I like them, but once we get more memes going I could see them being relegated to their own community
Not against them as concept , but lotsa ones I see on r/starterpacks thinly veiled fatphobia
They've been common on Lemmy since i started here at least.
US defaultism, eurocentrism, assuming everyone is male. But I think they are already here.
What you on about, brother? Isn't this a place on the internet, here thanks to god's favourite country ? Clearly everyone can relate to the quintessential USA-ian experience!
And what's that about Eurocentrism, look at a map, Europe is dead center! Asia is to the east and Americas to the west... Relative to Europe!
Oh and here's a massive /S, just in case...
complaining about a hivemind
All that wholesome keanu chungus shit, wholesome 100.
Suppression of discussion through mega/weekly/monthly threads.
Post requirements that result in posting anything nearly impossible.
Fucking stupid rules for mods to abuse with their dork ass internet powarz.
Clear corporate astroturfing.
“Leopard-face” replies masquerading as a substantive comment that adds something to the discussion.
It’s really no better than: “This”
That
I was today years old when i was reminded again of this godawful expression.
Karma and comment requirements to participate in communities. Plus how hard it is for your submission to actually be approved.
This one is inevitable but people going through your whole comment history when arguing with you.
The constant chasing of low hanging fruit. Doesn’t matter if it’s seeking the upvotes for a cheap quip on a serious subject or reposting the same old shit trying to get upvotes.
Reposts. We don’t need a constant churn of popularity seekers.
The hive mind. Really bad in big subs on reddit. Probably inevitable in any large online group, but reddit can be unreasonably bad.
Bots.
Constant reposts and lack of any critical thinking or engagement. It is insane to think that every post I have put on here so far, I am new, has had more interaction that the gigantic 'active' user base of Reddit.
Buncha reddit cringe like:
"The narwhal bacons at midnight" "Owling"
I cannot abide that shit.
What was the whole narwhal thing?
It's a code phrase to identify other Redditors in real life. If you ask someone, "When does the narwhal bacon?" they answer, "At midnight." Then you both know you are part of the cool secret Reddit club.
It started in this thread. A user was bored at an airport and tried to identify other traveling Reddit users for fun.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/98mm8/hey_reddit_im_redditing_from_the_denver/
Wow, thats like a much worse version of the tumblr shoelaces.
"whyyyy are you sorting by new???????
Ironic, considering people sorting by new are almost neccessary for voting to work.
Interesting I just assumed bots and grifters determine what gets voted to the top.
Bad mods
Too late, but at least alternatives pop up more quickly here. I'm not going near any of the 196 coms, but it's a good example of how little power bad mods here have.
Random persons(bots) writing their story of their life in comments. Karma farming, which leads to nothing but trying to show off or push propaganda.
I've noticed a lack of "thathappened" type of stories. Either people here value their privacy or don't feel the need to lie to farm nonexistent karma.
Mod impunity, brigading, bots, reposts, repost bots, banning of 3rd-party apps, abuse of suicide prevention system by bad actors. Aside from the forum-specific culture, the site's frequent failure to upload/post comments, which sometimes resulted in 100% loss of more detailed responses, was incredibly disappointing (I'm still Ctr-C'ing all comments everywhere as a force of habit to guarantee it won't happen 5+ times/day).
Outrageous and inflammatory comments just to karma farm if that's even a thing here.
Any kind of automated moderation. If you can't do the job you volunteered to do, don't volunteer. If you need more hands and eyes, recruit more mods.
Too late. They all already came, minus the centralization issue.
Putting the word “porn” in community titles for anything involving photography or gfx. It’s immature and unnecessarily crude. I think it’s too late though.
I've seen this said before, actually. I agree, and I think some people will give me funny looks when they see me at cableporn (really neat cables) or something like that.
I’ve had the funny looks and my attempt to explain seemed to make it worse.
42069 was never funny and never will be for those of us aged 16 or older.
Is that a reddit-ism? Isn't it more just pop culture that exists equally both on and off of Reddit?
Nice.
true, 69420 is way better
Okay Buzz Killington.
Dubious and disagree downvotes. But that's always been here already. That became pretty clear to me pretty fast.
What do you expect people use downvotes for then?
Content curation.
I upvote or leave neutral opinions and arguments I disagree with if they're well argued or otherwise contribute to discussion and strengthen respectful discourse.
I don't know how you feel when your posts get sum-negative scores, but it makes me feel rejected and makes me not want to participate. I receive it as a social indicator. I see it as something that leads us towards echo chambers.
Yeah, I try to do this as well. I may not agree, but if they’re making an attempt at good faith argument and are holding a position that is not objectively wrong I’ll upvote or at least not downvote. I’ll always upvote someone who appears to accept that they might not have the higher ground. People still voteshame when someone tries to admit reconsidering a position, it sucks because that’a a disincentive to learning. It’s far too easy to emotionally knee-jerk downvote someone just because you don’t like what they said.
Of course, this is pretty subjective…someone can be right and a complete ass and get a downvote or you might disagree for reasons other than the presented info, but so far Lemmy users seem far more inclined to moderate downvotes or at least tolerate some opinions and dish back with rebuttals rather than just mashing downvotes.