Spyke
lemmy.sdf.org

They're shit cars. Let's please stop pretending they aren't. The build quality is abhorrent.

Yes, they had the cool factor for a while, and yes, I feel sorry for (some of) those who got caught up in something they didn't want to be caught up in. But also, the writing has been on the wall a long time, and build quality issues have been public knowledge for about as long.

You get what you pay for.

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plootreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You get what you pay for.

At $90K, no you most certainly don't.

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plootreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Do you have a source for that?

Also we should note that Tesla paid $0 income tax on $2 billion income in 2024. And Trump axed the tax rebate to help people buy EVs.

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Elgenzayreply
lemmy.ml

Dumb tax as in tax for being dumb. I was joking.

I think "stupid tax" is the more common verbiage, I've updated it

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midwest.social

Personally I think “idiot tax” works better.

“Stupid” and “dumb” being adjectives that could also be describing the tax itself, rather than the person paying it, is ambiguous. But “idiot tax” clearly says, to me anyway, “a tax on idiots.”

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The phrase “idiot tax” is also used to describe people who buy lottery tickets.

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infosec.pub

I had a coworker who bought a used one five years ago who said it was great having the first owner do all the repairs.

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infosec.pub

Right, but you gotta admit, older Hondas are made of steel. Figuratively and literally.

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Lianareply
lemmy.world

Webster's updated "literally". It now includes the definition "to add emphasis", since people keep using it incorrectly. They update the dictionary to reflect current usage, so I get it, but it still makes me sad.

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setsubyoureply
lemmy.world

If this sort of thing didn’t happen, you would just have claimed that seeing the dictionary entry makes you not hungry. (Original meaning of sad in Old English, cognate with German satt which still has this meaning.)

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discuss.tchncs.de

There are probably some cases were words changed their meaning from positive to negative. (I know there are in German)

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0opsreply

Mark my words, it's going to happen again with "objectively". I see stuff like this constantly:

This art piece is objectively good

That's not what's objectively means?

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My buddy found blue painter’s tape where there was supposed to be wire conduit and screws when he lifted up the carpet on his. You may note that blue painter’s tape is intentionally designed to be temporary and dissolve away after a few weeks, which is much less than the expected lifespan of AN ENTIRE FUCKING CAR.

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lemmy.world

Now he needs to drive around in it while we all absolutely pray for the funniest thing in the world to happen.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

Honestly, I'm not even mad they're squandering their money on stupid bullshit.

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discuss.tchncs.de

Except it isn't stupid bullshit. They are giving the money to musk so that they can get something they want done. This also gives musk more power as he's able to buy more people.

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lemmy.world

"Anonymously" at an "auction" was the intended implication, I believe. Where in actuality someone is just paid a lot of money in a manner that is harder to trace, and has an air of plausible deniability.

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Omg you're right, I completely forgot that was a thing for money laundering. Damn. My mistake!

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kbin.earth

If this were a movie, (that I was writing) The car would glitch and lock Dumpster inside, then burst into flames. He would push the panic button, then look through the smoky windows at fElon laughing demonically, while Dumpster lights-outs coughing and railing against the betrayal, and injustice of it all.

Fade to black. Cough

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SilverCodereply
lemm.ee

Post credits scene will be fElon taking a seat behind the desk in the oval office.

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KingJalopyreply
lemm.ee

Which suddenly also burst into flames and cut to black almost immediately.

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Which fades into POV held tied in a carriage with a blond man telling you you've been trying to cross the borders...

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lemmy.world

$90k is nothing for these people.

You have any clue how much Trump is stealing from tax payers? The dude is making a fortune off being president.

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Bregareply
lemmy.world

Ever wondered if this tariff yes tariff no spiel is just stock maipulation?

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lemmy.world

Hearing Trump talk about how the car has 'computer' (during the news conference) made me think back to a news event with George H.W. Bush in a supermarket, seeing a grocery barcode scanner for the first time.

Same kind of inquisitive and excited response from both of them.

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badatbeing.social

Trump did a supermarket thing while out doing his disinformation circuit, and the owner guy was trying to explain things to him and you could tell Trump had never grocery shopped and then quickly lost interest and tuned the guy completely out.

The McDonald's fries thing was also amusing when he learned "how fries were made" and that they put them in a basket and not scoop them out by hand lol.

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lemmy.world

The McDonald’s fries thing was also amusing when he learned “how fries were made” and that they put them in a basket and not scoop them out by hand lol.

They could have let him learn that the hard way, but no.

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Imagine if everyone in the world would just say "fuck no, I am not cooking for you" and the billionaires would die of starvation because they don't know how to do. Hilarious.

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lemmy.ml

This car was probably bought using US government money.

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Aermisreply
lemmy.world

It was most definitely bought using your tax money.

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Putin's manservant bought the car using his hidden slush funds.

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tal
lemmy.today

Musk did some crazy brand management with Twitter, but the Tesla/Trump stuff has got to be unparalleled in the history of branding. He built a product that was an identity-broadcasting thing for liberals and then pulled a 180 and drove as hard as one could possibly imagine in the other direction.

Even if he had some idea of selling to conservatives, become the only EV manufacturer selling to that segment, he could have put out a different brand, which lots of manufacturers do, and mitigate losses to the original brand.

https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sale-big-losses-second-hand-value-plunge-elon-musk-2025-3

Tesla owners offloading their cars over Elon Musk backlash are in for a nasty surprise

  • Some Tesla owners are considering selling their cars as backlash against Elon Musk and DOGE grows.

  • They may have to take a serious haircut, with prices for used Teslas plummeting in recent years.

  • The average price of a pre-owned Tesla is now $30,000, nearly $10,000 less than a non-Tesla EV.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-gaining-republicans-loses-traction-democrats-stifel/

Stifel’s Think Tank Group data has shown that Democrats’ net favorability of Tesla fell to -15% from 7% since February 2024, while Republicans’ rose to 27% from 11%. Democrats’ net purchase consideration for Tesla vehicles also dropped to -42% from -31% since Musk endorsed Trump in August, while Republicans’ improved to -13% from -26% in the same period, per Stifel.

“There is a clear negative shift from Democrats, while Republicans willingness to buy a Tesla is rising… This backlash has surfaced anecdotally and on social media (people placing bumper stickers on their Tesla’s claiming they love the car, but not Elon, and other variations),” the analyst noted.

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lemmy.world

Car brand history has a lot in store if youre interested. You can basically start at Volkswagen for the obvious, mitsubishi is a story too, hell even Ford but that has some anachronisms we have to kind of ignore.

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At least denazification worked on Henry Ford. Someone showed him footage of the death camps and being confronted with the reality of it gave him a stroke that almost killed him, and which contributed to the cerebral hemorrhage that did kill him.

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I don't give a crap how much I'll get for it. I'm ruling out private sale because I don't want to deal with nazis.

I'd rather crush it.

I do have a friend that does EV conversions on cargo vans. Could be useful for that.

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lemmy.world

doesn't even drive

It's more than that. Legally, he's not even allowed to drive.

Edit: might not be technically illegal, but disallowed by secret service.

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I think disallowed only out in the public. I think I read that theyre allowed to drive on the whitehouse property, and maybe private institutions like race tracks? I dont recall the specifics

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A1kmmreply
lemmy.amxl.com

Legally, he’s not even allowed to drive.

I think more like the SS advises the president not to drive for their own safety, and to leave it to experts.

Or as Trump probably sees it: The deep state is being insufficiently loyal and trying to tell him - the president - of all people - what to do. So he totally shouldn't listen, and should drive if he wants to, and they should fall in line or be fired.

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fedia.io

What's weird is that Presidents aren't allowed to drive themselves. Secret service is no doubt impounding that new car until he's no longer their problem.

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They can, just not on public roads.

Biden drove an electric Ford truck on a closed lot.

Obama drove Jerry Seinfeld's car on the White House grounds.

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Neverclearreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

He actually said this on camera, that he wouldn't be driving it. But then, he said that he hadn't driven in a "long time"...

I don't think he has a driver's license.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

That's code for he never learned to drive. Whatever polite bullshit you're used to from other politicians isn't happening here, so you can safely assume the exact opposite of what he's saying.

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He did have a drivers license and was shown driving in 2014 on a video that his wife posted. The license expired in 2020. He probably didn't renew it, since ex-presidents are also not allowed to drive, so he hasn't been allowed to drive since 2016.

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It'd be such a shame if it caught fire.

But then, Chump never drives anyway so....

🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

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"Donald. I will pay to make you President but you have to give me access to all admin information and buy a car from me." E-Lawn.

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Duh. The dude has the intellect of a 90-year-old rotten turd. What the fuck did you expect from him? Are you fucking stupid enough to think he would do any differently than suck Elon’s ball sack on the front lawn of the White House in front of a bunch of cameras?

If you did, I found the Trump voter.

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lemm.ee

Okay but were they actual recalls or just OTA software update "recalls"

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https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/tesla-cybertruck-recalls/

Honestly , I wonder how they got 37 and what they are. My guess is that most were really small software updates like you said. With that said, here is the list of the ones that I heard about. Out of the 6 listed, 5 were exclusive to the truck, and it looks like 5 of the 6 were actual recalls.

I'm not sure how people are ok with that, considering the price and how awful the reviews are about how it's built and drives. For comparison, I have now owned 5 cars in my life and had a total of 3 recalls. The total cost of the 5 cars combined is 26k, and that's over 25 years. My one and only point is I can't believe people are willing to throw 90k at a car full of problems when 90k should be buying you a well-built luxury car with peace of mind.

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