You know, theoretically, it is possible to order the raw pharmaceutical ingredients to make Plan B, in bulk, directly from overseas manufacturers who don't ask too many questions. For three hundred you could order enough raw ingredients to make enough doses that you could measurably alter the birth rate of a small nation state.
Well, I didn't mean it quite that way. But if you want to compound your own Plan B, I looked into it once, and for a few hundred dollars you could make thousands of doses. And the raw active ingredients, if vacuum sealed and stored in a freezer, will last nearly indefinitely.
That's actually neat... You ruined my stupid innuendo! Does that kind of processing make the wood stronger than in its natural form? (assuming no defects in either)
I do terrible things to wood. My work involves saws, drills, soaking, boiling, firing in ovens, and loading specimens til they crack, break, and buckle.
If you want to associate that with your anatomy, well...you must have some particular fetishes indeed!
Most front end employees do not know that federal regulations supersede their authority. Politely ask to see a manager.
Pharmacies are regulated by the FDA (for now anyway. Who knows what things will look like a month from now) and pharmacies cannot bar customers from using their services.
Costco pays better than most retailers but they still aren't paid to be lawyers. They are likely not aware of the regulation or even their corporate policies on who gets waved through.
Iirc alcohol are the same, though often controlled at the state level so maybe different between states. Some states have regulations on warehouse memberships not being required for purchases.
The door people are definitely trained about who they should let through to the pharmacy. If someone is blocking you it’s because they have a shitty personal bias and are trying to build artificial hurdles between you and healthcare. Definitely let their manager know so that you can get in and the manager knows they accidentally hired a Nazi sympathizer.
I picked up abortion pills a few times doing deliveries in a really conservative area in the U.S. Mildly interesting getting a lot of weird looks because its always locked down or the head pharmacist had to give the okay
Q. Is Plan B One-Step an abortifacient (causing abortion)?
A. No. Plan B One-Step will not work if a person is already pregnant, meaning it will not affect an existing pregnancy. Plan B One-Step prevents pregnancy by acting on ovulation, which occurs well before implantation. Evidence does not support that the drug affects implantation or maintenance of a pregnancy after implantation, therefore it does not terminate a pregnancy.
Do you know how hard it is to get a doctor to tie your tubes together?
I know one woman who was in a position where being pregnant would be dangerous, and they still made her go through therapy sessions to check that she was really sure.
Conversely, my vesctomy was "you know that's permanent, right? Ok, I'll get you a referral." A 30 minute chat with a urologist after that about the details, and then we scheduled it.
It's called plan B in the US? We call it "the morning-after pill" where I live. I think it's a bit more self-explanatory.
It's also referred to as the morning after pill. IIRC Plan-B was a brand name.
Back in my day we called it RU-486. Always reminded me of a Russian computerized submarine.
That is for an abortion, not for preventing a pregnancy from occurring. The difference is insanely and stupidly important for religious fascists.
For now. If those fucks have their way, it won't be too long before plan b is just abortion by another name, followed by contraception.
Mifepristone can also be used as an emergency contraceptive too though.
RU-486 is a different product.
You're right. I had been mistaken for decades.
Open wide, here comes the submarine.
Now that's what got you in this situation!
R U 4 86ing this baby out your womb?
I raise you "anti-baby-pill" from Germany.
Edit: anti-baby-pill refers to contraceptive pill.
Really? That's a bit too… intense. I propose "postpone-baby-pill" or "baby-no-thanks-pill".
Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. I raise "baby-not-today-pill".
We could call it Fetuscide, to trigger the fuck out of fundies and other retrogrades
I've always heard that for the normal pill, not the morning-after one.
Really? Mhm, I guess it may differ throughout Germany?
All references online also seem to point to it being the contraceptive pill: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibabypille
I must be mistaken, then! Thanks for pointing it out. Doesn't change the funny harshness of the name - pill is similar after all..
Six dollars?
Why have I been paying three hundred for them?
You know, theoretically, it is possible to order the raw pharmaceutical ingredients to make Plan B, in bulk, directly from overseas manufacturers who don't ask too many questions. For three hundred you could order enough raw ingredients to make enough doses that you could measurably alter the birth rate of a small nation state.
Still a more affordable hobby than Warhammer 40k 🤷
Yeah, but you can't play war games with the raw ingredients in plan-b.
Besides, if you spend enough on WH40k, you don't need plan-b
This comment is some lemmy gold lol
It's in the water Batman! It's in the water!!
Well, I didn't mean it quite that way. But if you want to compound your own Plan B, I looked into it once, and for a few hundred dollars you could make thousands of doses. And the raw active ingredients, if vacuum sealed and stored in a freezer, will last nearly indefinitely.
Sooo... what kind of wood do you normally science?
Veneer-based mass timber elements!
That's actually neat... You ruined my stupid innuendo! Does that kind of processing make the wood stronger than in its natural form? (assuming no defects in either)
If you want to imagine the material I work with, imagine really thick plywood.
Penis.
I do terrible things to wood. My work involves saws, drills, soaking, boiling, firing in ovens, and loading specimens til they crack, break, and buckle.
If you want to associate that with your anatomy, well...you must have some particular fetishes indeed!
Is that what has happened to Japan?
No Japan just likes fax machines more than children, which is a completely valid point of view.
Do you know those ingredients? For science.
A standard dose for Plan B is 1.5 mg levonorgestrel, CAS #797-63-7.
Your mistake is not buying them in bulk.
Where you going? $50 for the name brand where I'm at, $25 generic.
Sadly this is no longer true of Costco where I live. You now need a membership to use their pharmacy in at least my part of the US.Edit: See below, sounds like I was wrong
Most front end employees do not know that federal regulations supersede their authority. Politely ask to see a manager.
Pharmacies are regulated by the FDA (for now anyway. Who knows what things will look like a month from now) and pharmacies cannot bar customers from using their services.
Edit: Here is the official Costco policy
Oh shit, thank you for letting me know. I'll look into this more closely and start advising people of this info. I appreciate it!
You're welcome! Just remember to be polite.
Costco pays better than most retailers but they still aren't paid to be lawyers. They are likely not aware of the regulation or even their corporate policies on who gets waved through.
Iirc alcohol are the same, though often controlled at the state level so maybe different between states. Some states have regulations on warehouse memberships not being required for purchases.
This. California is one of them. You cant put alcohol behind a paid membership.
The door people are definitely trained about who they should let through to the pharmacy. If someone is blocking you it’s because they have a shitty personal bias and are trying to build artificial hurdles between you and healthcare. Definitely let their manager know so that you can get in and the manager knows they accidentally hired a Nazi sympathizer.
The same is also true for liquor, though it's a state agency that enforces the laws.
You can order from Costco online with no prescription or membership. You're welcome.
Do they deliver to Asia?
In New York, it’s just on the store shelf. They sell it at target. Although, you do need to have an employee unlock it for you.
I was also surprised at how cheap it is.
It's funny because my good insurance (RIP) paid for my sterilization, all but $6. Seems like that's the going rate for fuckin off pregnancy
Last time I went to a Costco pharmacy I had to be escorted there and back.
I picked up abortion pills a few times doing deliveries in a really conservative area in the U.S. Mildly interesting getting a lot of weird looks because its always locked down or the head pharmacist had to give the okay
Are you talking about plan B type pills? They are not an abortifacient. Common misconception (important to correct though).
Per FDA link:
Q. Is Plan B One-Step an abortifacient (causing abortion)?
A. No. Plan B One-Step will not work if a person is already pregnant, meaning it will not affect an existing pregnancy. Plan B One-Step prevents pregnancy by acting on ovulation, which occurs well before implantation. Evidence does not support that the drug affects implantation or maintenance of a pregnancy after implantation, therefore it does not terminate a pregnancy.
I appreciate the correction. I definitely never asked for a license to dispense anything, and it was definitely FDA okay
Sometimes I think they were looking for a Costco CEO and had a meeting where they played idiocracy and said, "how do we get that?"
Damn she didn’t get her tubes tied after plopping out two gremlins? Yeesh.
Edit: simmer down guys, it was a fucking joke.
Do you know how hard it is to get a doctor to tie your tubes together?
I know one woman who was in a position where being pregnant would be dangerous, and they still made her go through therapy sessions to check that she was really sure.
Conversely, my vesctomy was "you know that's permanent, right? Ok, I'll get you a referral." A 30 minute chat with a urologist after that about the details, and then we scheduled it.
Dude, I'm so fucking reluctant to say this because we get this all the time as vegans, but...
Antinatalists make antinatalism look obnoxious as fuck.
So much for not telling women what to do with their own bodies.
If this was a joke, it wasn't a very good one