God that’s fucking annoying. The other week I was listening to a podcast that also has episodes on YouTube. They were talking about farming and had to bleep the word ‘rapeseed’. The fuck are we doing guys.
You used to be able to watch beheadings online, now a farmer can’t even talk about his crops online without the censorship police getting involved…
No doubt there’s still sites which have it, but it feels like it used to be more common to run into that sort of material, even on places like YouTube.
I’ve only seen one - journalist Daniel Pearl. It was shown when I studied journalism back in 2002. Part of a cautionary discussion about the dangers of reporting on war and conflics.
What you're referring to is a recent trend of social media platforms enforcing a wordlist ban, causing people to resort to using "newspeak", coined from the book 1984.
Newspeak was a language where negative words were not allowed. You can literally see it on platforms like TikTok, where people say "unalive" instead of "kill", "seggs" instead of "sex", or "oui'd" instead of "weed".
Algospeak is the use of coded expressions to evade automated moderation algorithms on social media platforms such as TikTok and YouTube. It is used to discuss topics deemed sensitive to moderation algorithms while avoiding penalties such as shadow banning or downranking of content.
i don't think newspeak is a good term for it, that implies an authority is forcing specific language onto people to limit their communications
what's happening is the precise opposite, people are inventing new language to keep communicating the same things despite being censored, it's the exact same thing that happened in hong kong with the chinese censorship.
That's a good point! I've always heard it referred to as newspeak, but there is indeed a small but important distinction between the two.
The end result is similar, but the way there is the opposite (blocking vs enforcing)
I think comparing it to newspeak is still a good warning however, as they are caused by similar pressures applied in different ways, but algospeak is the more accurate term.
Self-censoring swearing and serious topics will never not be ridiculous to me. I especially dislike the trend if censoring them by replacing letters with numbers/symbols, because I don't see that well...
I'm fine with self-censorship so long as it's also self-aware and funny, llike that D&D group on youtube where they replace penis with "schmenis", that outright elevates things.
Ideally take the opportunity to be creative with euphemisms, blur the line between censorship and art.
fuck nazism and especially fuck corporations like alphabet inc that force content creators to censor words like Hitler and holocaust because they're not "advertiser friendly" enough
Fuck, Alphabet did it during COVID. YouTubers had to talk around the pandemic or the Great Algorithm of Everything might demonetize or de-prioritize their videos. Yes, let's not talk about the most pressing topic affecting the entire planet because it makes a few marketing geniuses sads... brilliant.
Actually my daughter's school in California has a stress group one for girls and one for boys where they get together to discuss stress in their life. They're allowed to curse in that group But only there. They're in 4th grade... I don't have an issue with it but I hate that 4th graders even need a stress group. This country is whack.
I've taught my kids that there are grownup words that they can use once they're a grownup. They'll heard grownups use these words but they aren't to use them themselves. And probably around the time they're grownup enough to figure out the ruse they'll be about grownup enough to understand when to and not to curse
Same. Also not to say it in public. The other rule is you can't curse at us. You can say bitch not you call Mom a bitch and you are on your own and better run lol.
Yep. Already went through that last year haha, one of my daughters called my wife (her stepmom) a bitch to her stepbrother; she was grounded for a week. Thankfully she and my wife are getting along much better - lots of therapy and counseling. My ex is a narcissistic cunt and likes to drive wedges between the kids and everyone else they're involved with. My eldest is wise to it now though.
I use voice dictation a lot. When I use it for work I need to censor myself.
When I come to Lemmy I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding the voice dictation setting 12 layers deep so that it won't censor the word fuck.
Inadvertently some assholes comes along after every one spicy comments to let me know I can say fuck on the internet.
Suicide and murder are normal words as well. I'm seeing things like weed or cocaine blocked lately too.
Suicide is normal word sure, but Toaster-bath is more fun
Ye it's hard being a protogen :(
The opening song for the movie and tv series MASH was Suicide is painless
GTA RPers would be pretty fucked if they needed to stop saying the names of drugs
.ml users hate this one weird trick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYrmWuylCwo
Appropriate Voyager/dbzer0/my isp fail:
I literally only opened the comments to ask someone to do this. Lol. Thank you for anticipating my needs
https://youtu.be/mz5ODQCueP8
Think of the advertisers! They need a nice, sanitised environment to keep their bullshit in.
Meanwhile on Youtube "This PDF File Game-Ended himself because he was caught with Child SA Corn and now he's unalive."
God that’s fucking annoying. The other week I was listening to a podcast that also has episodes on YouTube. They were talking about farming and had to bleep the word ‘rapeseed’. The fuck are we doing guys.
You used to be able to watch beheadings online, now a farmer can’t even talk about his crops online without the censorship police getting involved…
Maybe the farmer shouldn't depend on corporations for their platform then.
Build a Youtube alternative
Well sure, but you also used to :D
No doubt there’s still sites which have it, but it feels like it used to be more common to run into that sort of material, even on places like YouTube.
I’ve only seen one - journalist Daniel Pearl. It was shown when I studied journalism back in 2002. Part of a cautionary discussion about the dangers of reporting on war and conflics.
In going to say it...
Unprotected handholding.
I wish I had some pearls I could clutch.
I'll allow it, but i better not see any exposed ankles
That makes me uncomfy 🤢🤮
Filth!
What you're referring to is a recent trend of social media platforms enforcing a wordlist ban, causing people to resort to using "newspeak", coined from the book 1984.
Newspeak was a language where negative words were not allowed. You can literally see it on platforms like TikTok, where people say "unalive" instead of "kill", "seggs" instead of "sex", or "oui'd" instead of "weed".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak
Thank you, I wasn't aware of this term!
https://lemmy.ca/comment/15035910
You're welcome. I only learned of it myself a few weeks ago.
i don't think newspeak is a good term for it, that implies an authority is forcing specific language onto people to limit their communications
what's happening is the precise opposite, people are inventing new language to keep communicating the same things despite being censored, it's the exact same thing that happened in hong kong with the chinese censorship.
That's a good point! I've always heard it referred to as newspeak, but there is indeed a small but important distinction between the two.
The end result is similar, but the way there is the opposite (blocking vs enforcing)
I think comparing it to newspeak is still a good warning however, as they are caused by similar pressures applied in different ways, but algospeak is the more accurate term.
My french is in pain 🥖
My keyboard doesn't have a fuck key so I don't know how to type it
Ka-tarl
Pig-Up
All this computer hacking is hard work. I think I'll have a tab.
No time for that, the computer's starting!
start with F
I want a c*nsored version of this
A cuntsered version?
A cfucknsored version
Y*s
Nice try but I don’t wanna be grounded
Noooo 😭
that feels so massive 😳
Are you phallomorphing circuit diagram symbols?
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masse_(Elektronik)
mass in german literally refers to ground
woosh
Not very girthy though
Self-censoring swearing and serious topics will never not be ridiculous to me. I especially dislike the trend if censoring them by replacing letters with numbers/symbols, because I don't see that well...
I'm fine with self-censorship so long as it's also self-aware and funny, llike that D&D group on youtube where they replace penis with "schmenis", that outright elevates things.
Ideally take the opportunity to be creative with euphemisms, blur the line between censorship and art.
I loved how Blade Trinity at least recognized the absurdity (for TV channels that required censorship)...
Original:
Censored:
I learned all of my Chinese from Firefly
Right? If you don't want to swear you don't need to swear, what's the point of using asterisks lol
Specially on lemmy where there's no algorithm to begin with
This is also exactly why I was never interested in places like TikTok even befitting they bent the knee to the US, not gonna lie.
My internet is appalled
It's like graffiti on the wall of buildings, that keeps the rent down.
"fuck" on the internet keeps the advertisers away.
::: spoiler German https://taz.de/Der-Kampf-um-die-Waende/!6070022/ :::
FUCK
fuck nazism and especially fuck corporations like alphabet inc that force content creators to censor words like Hitler and holocaust because they're not "advertiser friendly" enough
Fuck, Alphabet did it during COVID. YouTubers had to talk around the pandemic or the Great Algorithm of Everything might demonetize or de-prioritize their videos. Yes, let's not talk about the most pressing topic affecting the entire planet because it makes a few marketing geniuses sads... brilliant.
Fuck I forgot about the whole "human malware" thing
fuck
On the Intenet
Darmok and Galad
At Tenagra
Got two generations raised on Pleasing The Algorithm, we are so fucked
Cooked.
Cucked.
Red Dwarf, on the other hand, used Smeg. Which today is a company that makes excellent fridges.
Smegma is a word, though.
I was not exactly in dire need of being reminded of that, thanks
Somebody else's list.
I loooove his standup. I have a whole collection of his stuff.
What the fuck?
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
Not according to Reddit, who has gotten ridiculously ban-happy
I got banned from a subreddit for linking to another subreddit..
fuck yeah!
You can't say fuck in school you fucking fatass!
Actually my daughter's school in California has a stress group one for girls and one for boys where they get together to discuss stress in their life. They're allowed to curse in that group But only there. They're in 4th grade... I don't have an issue with it but I hate that 4th graders even need a stress group. This country is whack.
We let our kids swear at home. It's a legit stress relief.
We do too but seems risky letting them at school for those who don't let their kids.
We just teach them that not everyone is allowed to talk that way and then try to answer any questions that may come of it.
I've taught my kids that there are grownup words that they can use once they're a grownup. They'll heard grownups use these words but they aren't to use them themselves. And probably around the time they're grownup enough to figure out the ruse they'll be about grownup enough to understand when to and not to curse
Same. Also not to say it in public. The other rule is you can't curse at us. You can say bitch not you call Mom a bitch and you are on your own and better run lol.
Yep. Already went through that last year haha, one of my daughters called my wife (her stepmom) a bitch to her stepbrother; she was grounded for a week. Thankfully she and my wife are getting along much better - lots of therapy and counseling. My ex is a narcissistic cunt and likes to drive wedges between the kids and everyone else they're involved with. My eldest is wise to it now though.
i'm curious, why do you not have an issue with controlling what kids say? To me that seems really quite profoundly fucked up and authoritarian.
Except for me. **** is my password so if I type **** Lemmy automatically censors it.
You fool! Now I can steal your credit card information using... The login to a social media platform without in app purchases...
No it isn’t. I just tried and it doesn’t even meet minimum character length
I use voice dictation a lot. When I use it for work I need to censor myself.
When I come to Lemmy I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding the voice dictation setting 12 layers deep so that it won't censor the word fuck.
Inadvertently some assholes comes along after every one spicy comments to let me know I can say fuck on the internet.
F*** them.
Why would you have censorship on your dictation software? It's not like you want either "fuck" or "f***" in professional writing
is perfectly acceptable at my job
FUCKING
Phoque ?
Word https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=fuck What's with the old fuck?
Well I suppose if you wanted to then you could. I mean I don't swear when I speak so I don't feel I need to online.
Duck that.
Fuck you, I wont' say what I want... don't? Fuck...
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me! Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!
The radio version be like
Fuck
As long as as it isn't on reddit yes, you can
Frell! Frick! Frak! Fsck!
It isn’t like the old days. Religious people are among us now.
I've no more fucks to give
but i dun like it.,---,.,.- it sounds aggressive, angri and uncomfy >~<
what the flip
yes!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
u get it! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
makes me feel like - --,.,.,- WAY more comfy!! <3 <3 <3
thanksiesforplayingalong!UwU
whaddu you evn mean by thattddd -.-, -.
u gotta.,.. be mor specifc!!.,-,. ~ ~ ~ ~
UwU iz adorbz
You motherflippers all think this everything is a motherflipping joke
are you fecking sure about that?
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Fricking cool
Fuck this! Fuck that! But do you think my fucks are infinite?
Everyone only has a limited number of fucks to give. Whenever you see it censored, they have simply run out of fucks.
Fuck yeah!
Nonetheless, I must ask: who, where, when and how?
Type fuck to pay respect
f**k
My Lanta!
My Name Is Buck And I Like To Fuck
Bend Over And Touch Your Toes,
I'll Show You Where The Wild Goose Goes.
~William Shakespeare circa. 1589
obligatory bunk mcnulty do csi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNVEQgXsBgs
Oh crackers!
Oh dear. Now you've done it.
But I don't want to.
Gonna heckin unalive if I see someone say fr*ck on the internet
Culpeppers! Straight culpeppers!
You can almost even do it online
Oops
Fuck balls
I can think of a word no one's brave enough to say...
F**K!
Fuck when the fuck did that become fucking acceptable?
Real sh*t