Spyke
lemmy.world

Yeah, the easiest way to control people is when you know what they fear. And, now we know what they fear. They (media/social media/politicians) have been using our fears against us all along, time to see what it is like.

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feddit.org

I'm just going to latch onto the top comment...

An actual reddit admin posted this 2 days ago:

Today we are rolling out a new (sort of) enforcement action across the site. Historically, the only person actioned for posting violating content was the user who posted the content. The Reddit ecosystem relies on engaged users to downvote bad content and report potentially violative content. This not only minimizes the distribution of the bad content, but it also ensures that the bad content is more likely to be removed. On the other hand, upvoting bad or violating content interferes with this system.

So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning. We have done this in the past for quarantined communities and found that it did help to reduce exposure to bad content, so we are experimenting with this sitewide. This will begin with users who are upvoting violent content, but we may consider expanding this in the future. In addition, while this is currently “warn only,” we will consider adding additional actions down the road.

We know that the culture of a community is not just what gets posted, but what is engaged with. Voting comes with responsibility. This will have no impact on the vast majority of users as most already downvote or report abusive content. It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem is healthy and that there is no tolerance for abuse on the site.

Screenshot

This was the only thing left reddit had going for itself: that users can influence the algorithm with their votes.

The subredditDrama posts are here:

reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1j5cqq1/multiple_subreddits_express_concern_after_reddit/
reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1j5tcgj/after_an_rpopculture_moderator_is_suspended/

As someone who switched to feddit just a few days ago I can say this has been building up. Small things like deciding which comments get visibility, phasing out old.reddit, doing nothing about bots, introducing bot/karmafarma-friendly mechanisms, an uptick in pro-MAGA posts/comments as well as disinfo bots ... but still, this feels like an uncharacteristically large step.

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So, starting today, users who, within a certain timeframe, upvote several pieces of content banned for violating our policies will begin to receive a warning.

I saw users warning other users to be careful (how they upvote) or they might get banned. I don't know what else screams "censorship" and "hostile environment" quite like encouraging your own users to caution those around them to shut up.

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It is everyone’s collective responsibility to ensure that our ecosystem

It's whose responsibility?? HAHAHAH

9

"check for violence" for any comments that contain the word "Luigi".

This is gonna make Nintendo retro-garming discussions really awkward.

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as if Mods will spend time to check every single "luigi" comment, they arnt going to be bothered by, they will just auto-ban or use a bot to give a "Reason" to ban.

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lemm.ee

We all know what’s gonna happen next. The Admins will lock out the remaining mod and take it over for being “unmoderated” and install their own puppets like nothing ever happened.

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lemmy.world

they ban for upvoting "eat the rich" too.

yet reddit admins never had a problem with thedonalds posters litteraly saying people should be shot and other violent rhetoric for years. the key difference is this time the billionaire class got upset.

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lemmy.world

Yea, my blessed Fediverse brethren, hear ye!

Mark thy holy lemmings, gird thy loins with smelling salts and prepare for the unwashed tides. The memes will be terrible and swift, and no one will be safe from the waves of idiocy.

Tremble, for the 2nd Dawn of the Age of Incelius has arrived, and the Reddexodus Reddux is upon us!

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rc__buggyreply
sh.itjust.works

gird thy loins with smelling salts

I'm going to wrap so much ammonium carbonite around my junk

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

reddit is making way for right wing-only content, they allow "other side content" to drive up engagement.

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People often think it was the encryption key controversy that broke Digg. Nah, the massive vote brigades and cliques operating blatantly on the open were the first nail. The second nail was Digg redesign with the stated goal of "power users are good ackshually and no way this will go wrong"

If random ordinary users don't have any power on the site anymore - won't be heard and will just be punished for ordinary actions - what has Reddit really become?

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Nimrodreply
lemm.ee

Because if he was 15 he would be too mature to be a mod!

Ba-dum-tissssss

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bambooreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Was the option to purchase the stock at a reduced rate, or just to purchase it before the IPO? When that happened, it just seemed like a way to inflate their opening stock price by getting the most hard core users to literally buy in.

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bambooreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ok, thanks, I'm unfamiliar with pre IPO access, so that's helpful. Just to make sure I understand, from Reddit's perspective, they weren't setting the option price lower than the market price when the option offered? There was just a pre ipo market which you got the ability to trade on, no income earned when executing the option?

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Jhuskindlereply
lemmy.world

I just woke up to my 15 year old account with a warning and "suspended for suspicious activity" 🤣

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lemm.ee

Just nuked my entire reddit account due to this blatant censorship. Hello Lemmy and lemm.ee it's nice to be here

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Klearreply
lemmy.world

Welcome you two! We've got Star Trek, Linux and beans!

...

Hopefully some other topics will become viable later.

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Welcome I have been a reddit refugee for some time. And have been having a great time.

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lemm.ee

That’s why I’m here. Reddit started getting super censored so I was looking for an alternative and was directed here. It’s fucking ridiculous.

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ughreply
lemmy.world

Same. I originally came here after they killed off 3rd party apps, then I figured out how to patch RiF again and didn't spend as much time here.

The propaganda and misinformation have gotten to be too much. Advice subs are all fake AI stories. Admins are making a fuss about people breaking the rules, but refuse to disclose what the rules actually are.

I really enjoy Lemmy. The downside is that it's not as easy to organize (and find) niche spaces like on reddit. I'm hoping the small communities have grown more since the first mass migration.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

theres some niche subs that likely wont be replicated here anytime soon.

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lemmy.world

I've been over here for a year off and on, Lemmy ain't bad at all, could use some more resistance joining for sure.

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When I first joined lemmy was ass. But it has passed the threshold for content to be useable now. I like it.

9

Yeah the early days weren't so great but it's getting there. Still wish some of the game communities I'm interested in would migrate already but it's not bad

5

I received a permanent ban from Reddit last week, and I'm here for the same reason. And Reddit IS turning facist, as the rich close ranks. Fuck them. Any "spirited" criticism of Trump/Musk is characterized as encouraging violence and results in temporary bans, many of which I received, until recently when I apparently crossed a line which was too offensive (to the Mods). Therefore...

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the immense amount of bans they came last month, ongoing since nov 5th is just made some of us come here. they are going to keep banning, or make it easier to ban until only right propaganda is left, also the increased amount of on the ability to ban people that "report other people" has also increased. you can get banned for reporting someone or reporting "too much" apparently.

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Welcome, sibling! I came over in the rush after the reddit API debacle. Some things I've learned in the last year:

We may not have Sprog here yet, but get to know the environment, including colorful fauna such as:

  • Cephalopods that have Colonized the Skies.
  • The embodiment of the habitual movements of a space captain.
  • People that are kind-of like ossified remains.
  • People whose entire self identities revolve around draconic coitus (and all the controversy this brings).

The vast majority of posts are made by, like, ten people, and I'm pretty sure they never sleep. I'm currently unconvinced that Flying Squid isn't just a full colony of Humboldt Squid, constantly ramming into a giant submerged keyboard.

As far as controversies: Avoid the "tankies". You will find them on Hexbear, Lemmy.ml, and lemmygrad. They will not be going away, since the original creator of Lemmy is, apparently, one of them, and seems kind of mad with power. They treat with no man, and are willing to do anything to convince you that authoritarianism is good, as long as it calls itself "socialism". One would think they would have learned their lesson from "National Socialism"... They apparently have not. Not everyone from those servers is a tankie, but most tankies are on those servers. Think of Tankies as the lemmy subspecies of those trolls you shouldn't be feeding.

Contribute to discussions! Especially on a place as small as Lemmy, lurking actively harms the community! Unlike most places, it's generally fairly easy to figure out who's being disingenuous and arguing in bad faith, and most people are very reasonable! (As long as you never say anything bad about Linux. Be forewarned. Do not engage unless your autonomic nervous system runs Arch)

Welcome!

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Alteonreply
lemmy.world

Welcome to Lemmy, bud!

We have lots of Linux and Star Trek memes.

I highly recommend that when you update "all" or your "front page" - be sure to set youe filter for "Hot" results. Gets you the fresh, interesting shit.

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You can do that on Daily Kos too. I am permanently banned from commenting due to it. Those fuckers are too DNC oriented any way.

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lemm.ee

They banned my old reddit account because I reported fake news that was being posted on r/conservative. Apparently subreddit mods can report users who use the report tool and can just get you banned.

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socsareply
piefed.social

And then they say "if a user is breaking the rules, don't engage, use the report button."

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Which is stupid. A mod can just ban you forever and call it a day. Where the Admins have fucked up is if you harass a mod via modmail, they can only mute you for I think 28 days max, before you can start harassing them again. So, instead of letting a mod simply mute you forever, they created the report bullshit.

6

I got permanently banned for pointing out that a popular sex advice subreddit was being run by a rapist…

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lemmy.world

They recently, meaning I don’t exactly know when it happened, gave mods the ability to report you for “Abuse of the report tool”. For the record, I’m a mod on some subreddits, and that’s an absurd thing to need. I’ve learned a few things about being a Reddit mod.

  1. It’s not nearly as hard as some mods make you think it is.
  2. If they actually experience difficulty, it’s probably cause they suck at being a mod.
  3. Subs that experience issues, are typically cess pools like r/conservative.
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yea ive been reported for "report abuse" when the comments were legitimately trolls or obviously posting misinformation, crossbanning is also just as ridiculous. from what ive gathered, some mods are lazy into responding to every post being reported so they decided just to get rid of the reporter instead having to deal with.

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Taldanreply
lemmy.world

I got a warning for a similar thing. They can disagree with the report, but warning/banning users for it is insane

9

i got hit with report abuse a couple times. there were legitimate comments that should be reported but not getting removed.

1

So much shady shit going on on reddit.

The modlog is a breath of fresh air for lemmy. Praise whoever came up with and supported it.

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lemmy.world

I got banned because I posted a comment on an anti vaxx sub (I was challenging one of their comments) and found out a lot of subs had ban bots that just watched who posted to subs they didn't like. Whatever you do don't put any thought into your mod work or look at the comment's context.

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lemmy.world

It's not like we don't have mod drama but at least when you're federated, stupid decisions get limited to a single instance and others can simply defederate. Does allow for pretty... erm, interesting views you don't see on Reddit.

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That's the beauty of it.

The drama I prefer is power tripping mods who hate your username, hates that you use acronyms, and hates your server.

The drama I dont want is power tripping developers of Lemmy telling end users (us) what we can/can't post using the software.

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feddit.org

Also the modlog is public so you can at least see who was banned for what.

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lemmy.cafe

Nah, mods can just lie in the modlog. Verify that shit, don't listen to someone just because they're an authority.

Unless they're a .ml admin. The admins of lemmy.ml are always perfect.

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Man goes to the doctor.

He says "Doctor, I am miserable. I have been banned from one of my favourite Lemmy instances for no good reason."

Doctor says "Treatment is simple. db0 runs a community for disputing wrongful bans. Go argue with strangers. That should pick you up."

"But, Doctor..." says the man, "I was banned by db0."

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feddit.org

Yes you verify by opening the mod log and looking at the removed comments.

4

That's too hard for the average Lemmy user. They need a mod to tell them what to think instead of reading comments.

1

My first modlog entry on this account is from someone who banned me for harasment and stalking because they falsely claimed db0 admins were doxxing them in the modlog and I called them out on it.

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trololololreply
lemmy.world

Nothing wrong with being meat rider mate, catch on with the times.

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I believe it is the fact that it's Elon's meat that makes it's an issue. No one should do that.

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lemmy.world

I did. I left more than a year ago after I was permabanned for asking a question about whether someone would be banned if they asked certain things. Fuck those guys. I hear Digg is coming back though.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

oh, reddit doesnt allow discussion of reddit ban in most cases.

4

especially the subs were you are discussing help with reddit, and many subs dont allow it. Only time its allowed was when a sub has article talking about reddits enshittification.

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lemmy.world

There's going to come a point when the things we can't say may need to be said. A time when the message is delivered with blank comments.

[ . . . ] will carry a message of it's own that becomes much more difficult to ban.

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They then will expect people to mirror the bot’s narrative without engaging because they think we are this stupid lol

What's sad is, I can think of specific people I know IRL who will fall for this without a second thought.

1

you cant eve say black person or demographic without getting reported in many cases, so i just use AA abreviate instead, when referring to the people most hurt by gop and economic policies.

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Match!!reply
pawb.social

I've been on lemmy for like a year and

  • the worst thing that's happened on lemmy is that nicole botspam

  • meanwhile Reddit has done at least 3 heinous unforgivable things in that time

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socsareply
piefed.social

Ironically Lemmy is way worse if you post on the tankie instances. Thankfully it is growing enough to marginalize those coms

7

those tankies have probably been banned for legit reasons on reddit and just infest lemmy.

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lemmy.world

yeah, just got banned, it seems like today i finally begin my lemmy journey. How well does it hold up for deep subject matter knowledge that i found in some subreddits over the years and how is the best way to tap into that knowledge with lemmy? Does google index them or is their native search better than whatever reddits search was?

got banned for trying to help reddit too. Threatened to punch anybody that upvoted violent content and to knock it off! Being a bootlicker is one thing, but the gaul to be ungrateful to someone trying to help!??

That is a bridge to far and I say "Good day, sir."

Now lemmy gets the opportunity to impress me, I hope it is grateful for the chance.

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lemmy.world

They keep permanently suspending ppl so theyll wind up here, almost like someone working there secretly wants the fediverse to do well and is shifting the population over by permanently banning them (I dont really believe this before ppl argue like im stating a fact)

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Nimrodreply
lemm.ee

I now subscribe to this theory. Might dust off my old Reddit account and try to become a mod in my favorite subs so I can perma-ban all the top posters to jumpstart those communities in the fediverse…

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lemm.ee

I got banned for, I don't even remember what, it was something really minor. Got a new account using Brave, and have been shadowbanned. Absolutely non-functional site for me now. Banning people based on upvotes though, holy shit. To suppress posts that people actually like? That's the whole point of going there for me: the garbage gets knocked to the bottom where no one has to see it. Not anymore

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

reddit IDs people on thier browser fingerprint, among other metrics. if they see you hiding your fingerprint they will assume its botting and ban people regardless, (its not for all cases though).

1

i heard its very hard to become a mod, or even make a subreddit. because of the purges.

1

I am done with reddit. Not sure I understand this place but Reddit has been shit for a while, and is getting much worse by the second.

2

they either come here, or they go another site specifically for people who ban evades like : OF acct holders and people who promote links, im in that forum)

1

That was me until today. I haven’t been banned yet, but it isn’t for lack of trying.

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lemmy.world

My ten year old Reddit account got banned for a single snarky comment about Luigi, so here I am!

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i commented on R/technology and got "temp suspend for reporting too much" and that somehow triggered reddits AI to ban all my other accs.

5

So sad…I loved Reddit…I’m so sad to see it come to this. I’m so sad for all of the young people who think this is how the internet should be…..

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lemmy.ca

My 11 year old account, very active account, was recently banned from reddit but I'm not sure why. They deleted the comment so I'm not sure what it said. But I've been posting there for 11 years with no issues so something has changed.

I believe the comment I made was talking about if the US invaded Canada and I said they would be hard pressed to hold the country because Canadians look like Americans and we would take the battle across the border.

It's a common sense statement. Doesn't incite any more violence then quoting half the things Trump says about Canada any given day.

I think Reddit is purging the left leaning accounts and making a Nazi safespace like Twitter.

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Easier to conquer a disconnected, uncoordinated, and gagged enemy unable to rally a force united by common messaging and calls to action.

7

the amount of posts about trump is pretty obvious which way the site was heading, all the negative press helps trump, and its low effort to. its not about what hes done legislately in most cases, its about some stupid shit he did, like falling asleep or farting.

2

Reddit has been doing this shit for years. It's a big reason why I left. Spez (little piggie) was only the catalyst.

A few ban-happy,power tripping moderators did come over here, though. I don't have specifics on that, I just know I've seen them, and I've also been banned for some real dumb shit. I just stay away from those communities/instances.

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This feels somewhat different because previously, generally speaking, the problematic subreddits (jailbait, fat people hate, etc) were pretty much isolated to that subreddit, so action could be taken to that subreddit without a big blast radius to the rest of the site. Also, for the most part, the issues were targeting marginalized people. Going after people in the comments of r/popculture for upvoting a comment about Luigi is nothing like previous controversies.

6

I swear, there are some people that actively seek out parts of the internet to gain control of so they can push their agendas.

It's like they get physically distressed at the idea of people discussing things they don't want being discussed or holding views they don't want held.

5

Good. I hope Reddit tears itself apart. After having three accounts banned because I was better at insults than the one trying to haze me I think that site had run its course.

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socsareply
piefed.social

It won't, it will just complete the transition to a right wing propaganda platform, because right wing chuds are very profitable.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

funny thing theres is no left in us, just center rights like us, even i have some that leaning. but the only left is subs with countries with an actual "left party"

1

Ehhhhhh. There's nuance. Personally I feel if all of your political ideas can be summed up by pulling one of two levers then your not smart enough to understand politics. I have ideas and stances that land on both sides of the political spectrum.

1

The entire stuff going on is too stupid for me. I was using Lemmy for lurking and Reddit for other shit. I'm staying here now.

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feddit.org

Damn I thought reddit would stay save from the new usa censorship. Next step will ban liberal or anti trump posts and communities for sure. Seems like I moved to Lemmy at just the right time.

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madjoreply
feddit.nl

Given how much spez mainlines Musk's farts, how is any of this a surprise to you?

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feddit.org

I guess I was just unaware of spez' opinions and political alignment. It will just solidify my decision to dump American social media all together.

9

he kinda made that know like 2 years ago, when musk bought twitter, he started to "polishing his knob and trump" around that time.

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feddit.org

Well, maybe I was just in the wrong reddit spaces to notice. I didn't see any occasion (or article) that mentioned censorship like it's happening on Twitter. Even things that are commonly censored in social media like posts about death and suicide were not censored. I'd love to know more if this was happening outside my bubble.

7

Probably because culturally reddit has historically been aligned with the US narrative. The haven't needed heavy handed censorship.

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lemmy.world

Refreshing to see a comment like this. I was dumbfounded when I opened the Reddit thread this morning and found NONE of this. The Reddit of Old is quite dead. Long live the Reddit of Whatever the Fuck this is; or, better yet, platforms like Lemmy.

12

they enshittified themselves when they enforced the new forever scrolling feature of posts on the site.

0

Also acceptable: Aloigi, Aloisi, Aloisio, Lodovico, Ludovico, Alvise, Gigi, Gigio, Gigino, Ginetto, Gino, Luigino, Vico

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lemm.ee

Ive been on Reddit for 10 to 15 years. Its always been a strange place but ive never seen anything like what's going on at the moment.

  • weird rules (like 'Luigi') being applied system-wide without being communicated
  • automated actions applied to individual users site-wide, like allowing them to engage but preventing them from creating posts anywhere
  • over zealous mods. I'm assuming a lot of mods got sick of it and left over the last few years and those doing the work are under experienced. Or maybe just AI. Its possible.
  • GPTs engaging in posts and comments for training
  • agents from hostile governments agitating and spurring on political discussions that favour their agenda.

So yeah I'm giving up on it now, its just no fun anymore.

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Yeah, this sure. But I think primarily Reddit doesn't want its platform to be used to organize and protest. This is how they are setting the stage.

11

Yeah, this sure. But I think primarily Reddit doesn’t want its platform to be used to organize and protest. This is how they are setting the stage.

Fixed it for you

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lemm.ee

I am pretty sure a bunch of mods on big subreddits are actually Reddit employees cosplaying as normal users too.

Oh, and Reddit is now shadow banning your accounts when you evade a ban on a sub. So now I got all my accounts shadow banned because I ended up commenting on a sub I was banned on one account without noticing it, so I have zero reasons to go back to using reddit anymore. At least before I got a ban and was notified about how long it would take for my accounts to be usable again, now they are shadow banned without any notifications and I have no idea if they will ever go back to normal or not, so fuck it.

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oh yea i know some admins can be the mods. there are 92 mods that own over 500 subs, so i would think they are part of this power group of mods. and then we got the lowly mods of the regular subs. i heard about the blanket shadowbans in another site, they still do that to people who had100s of accts, but it also hit regular people too, that dint even violate a policy, so im thinking its an AI doing all these bannings and so many innocents are just caught up, and they cant even repeal it.

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EndofLifereply
feddit.org

I got banned three times in a month, and now I'm finally permanently banned. This is America.

1

5-6accts were simulatenouslly banned last month, because i was temp banned for reporting someone, so it triggered thier "AI to look for any account they can ban". they also retroactively(i assume) applied the ban to any accts you made, if any of your accts even if deleted years ago participated in getting banned in a subreddit. allegedly i heard a ban/shadowban can last over a year, but im pretty sure its arbitrary and most likely switched to being permanent in most cases.

r/technology decided to ban me for reporting obvious misinformation, and conversation manipulation around a trump post.

0

It's a censorship hellhole.

Once the humanity is taken out of a company, there is nothing left but abuse.

4

its mostly the last bullet point, that resulted in all the above.

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lemm.ee

I mean this is political censorship. Just plain and simple. Well done reddit. And i am against violence. But the thing that touches me the wrong way is the idea that not guilty until proven completely got lost in this case. And dont get me started on the united healthcare topic. Ia this still allowed on reddit or will it get shadow banned?

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lemmy.world

You think Trump is innocent until proven guilty? Because that's what the post is about. Luigi is only mentioned in the title, in quite poor taste imo

3

A major difference, even so, is that Trump has several felon convictions and impeachments.

5
lemmy.world

Reddit's strategy is to replace all users with AI bots rented from Elon.

18

they saw how the META android zuckerberg did, use AI harvest "Dead accounts" Facebook and drive the engagement.

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sh.itjust.works

Victual the affluent.

So do we all sign back into our old reddit accounts to say "Luigi" until permaban?

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I would, but I deleted my 17 year old account last year after the API mess and other spez bullshit that I don’t even recall 🤣

9

For a brief few years we had communication platforms that could topple dictatorships but now here we are.

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Hey everyone, there's a lot of you. You ever think maybe you can just troll them by none stop posting to all their subreddits. Hell the mods are like the same 20 people in over 5000 sub reddits. That's a weak point.

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Well that means they’re afraid. We’re not calling for anything violent we’re just calling out what we see. It’s a shame that Reddit went red. #boycottreddit

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I would upvote this post if you didn't include mention of Luigi in the title. The image and the extreme action isn't about Luigi at all. A mod was banned for upvoting an article from The Guardian about Donald Trump. If it were actually about Luigi then that would actually make more sense as a decision from Reddit admins, but it's not. The user was banned for upvoting trustworthy news about Donald Trump.

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Soggyreply
lemmy.world

Many (most?) volunteer moderators are doing unpaid labor for a community they are invested in that happens to be hosted by capitalists because aggregation (and smart phones giving every normie constant access to the internet) killed forum culture.

15

That's what the capitalists tell them, yes. And then they whip them and tell them to mod faster and the way they want.

0

did you ever look at the ANTI-Work mod, theres your answers. aside from subs like ASK doc which they verify using real MDs, and some others.

0
infosec.pub

Reddit became a clownshow 2 years ago, how are people even still enjoying the place?

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Soggyreply
lemmy.world

It's still the only major community hub for loads of hobbies and such. As an example: the Magic the Gathering community here has 1300 members and almost no activity.

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pokemon,yugioh, mtg are sitll all on Reddit. pokemon specifically the card game has direct line of communication(sort of) with the devs, it will be impossible/difficult to convince them to switch here. theres also certain companies that uses thier specific subs too.

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Semisimianreply
startrek.website

It's been limping for a while, but the momentum was huge to begin with. The niche subreddits still had good participation, not great, but good enough. These latest shenanigans might be the final tipping point, though.

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the only way is if reddit starts another massive ban purge again.

1

there are niche subs there i vist that usually cant replicate somewhere else, and people are addicted to the news and political posts.

0

Everybody log into your reddit accounts and post "Luigi" everywhere you can.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Luigi Mangioni is going through trial for his murder of the United Healthcare CEO. Lots of people rally behind him as a symbol of fighting against the system and the system is not too pleased about it.

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reddthat.com

Thank-you very much. I knew about the shooting but didn't recognise the name.

Again, thank-you very much for your service!

I'm having difficulty deciding whether that was what the US second amendment was intended for, rather than letting their kids shoot each other in school.

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Logireply
lemmy.world

It's definitely higher on the list of desirable outcomes than kids shooting each other. Whether it's above or below the neutrality line depends on what day you ask me.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

social media and msm trying to quash all news about him too.

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lemmy.zip

If you don't mind a followup, what's the article that apparently called for violence or whatever reddit is claiming it did?

3

I am not in the loop with reddit's excuses but from the posts around here it seems like the mods are asked to review any post with the word Luigi to check if it encourages violence. I guess this is because they think that if enough people rally behind Luigi, the same situation can happen. Reddit wants to avoid stochastic terrorism against CEOs, as expected.

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So sad and happy at the same time. I enjoyed reddit for awhile so its sad to see it go further downhill but kinda happy cause fuck all of that shit they are trying to do.

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Just switched to Lemmy for this exact reason! Got banned for god knows why and immediately deleted Reddit.

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mander.xyz

This is awesome. Are they going to start banning any reference to the SuperMario Bros IP, now?

e.g.

"This guy is looking more and more like Bowser every day, someone ought to do something about it"

"Princess peach has had it, time to go get the parasol"

"I'm sick of these motherfucking goombas on this motherfucking Earth"

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They have gone full grayface mode. I understand not giving a damn about a few individual users, but now they are on a complete power-trip that will destroy them.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

some large subs can crossban you, if the bots of a specific sub detects you went into a controversial sub they deemed as "brigrade threat". i once commented in joe rogan was immediately banned from 2 subs. eventhough the people on that sub, criticises joe roegan more than it supports him.

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Does anyone know how to reliably delete an entire reddit account, ideally editing over each comment as well? I did this before they closed off access to the API but upon checking months later, they had reverted all the changes so my account looks like it did before with everything visible.

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you can use powersuite suite or shreddit to get rid of your posts, i used a different extension to do it. i find it sometimes even my old comments can get targeted by people too.

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Why don't they just say what they really want? They want you to be docile, not challenge the echo chamber, and upvote everything and smile like an idiot. I've learned this lesson and pretty much just block all ragebait subs and mostly sit quietly in the corner. Just watch the ads like a good data point.

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they dont want to be the ones saying it, they use through thier right wing propaganda arms to do it.

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I am not surprised though. Someone with money is now exerting influence because Reddit is the most popular place for the resistance to oligarchy. Oligarchy aim is to own all media and they believe that will be the end of resistance's ability to spread messages.

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To be fair, lemmy.world response was more like "can you folks please not get us nuked IRL, we have to remove the most colourful posts, sorry" and not this Reddit response, which is more like "has anyone seen Spez? He locked himself in the closet with a shotgun aimed at the door, and we hear some agitated breathing from that direction every time someone nearby plays a Mario game"

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lemmy.world

Legit question -not tryna start shit/trigger intentionally: has this kind of reddit response ever happened before? Ive been on reddit for the past 10+ years, but as a comfy lurker. I remember "internal" reddit issues when the 3rd party thing was a thing.

(Quotes bc, from my POV as a lurker/casual user, the upset regarding reddit nixing 3rd party was too meta for me to really understand beyond "this is bad for reddit users")

I've gained enough info by casual usage-proxy to move over to lemme. But ngl, im not grasping the magnitude of why "reddit is bad now". I dont disagree, but i couldnt explain on my own to an outsider why i agree with that sentiment.

Obviously, censorship is bad mmmkay - I'm not questioning this. I have a gut feeling that making the switch and getting my global info from the fediverse is a good call. I just can't express why, and am requesting assistance from the community's exp in how I can express that. This seems like as good a topic ad any for a platform to discuss the matter.

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it wasnt that bad before, trumps 1st term, then every sub became extremely sensitive to many topics, and politics started to infilitrate a ton of subs(you have the bots to thank for it) this is just the latest result of it. this last election, reddit went to overdrive to ban anyone. i found myself moving between different acc, to seperate the accounts liability to potential bans(acct for specific niches).

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OkQwertyreply
lemmy.world

TL;DR - ELI5 why current reddit is bad, assuming I have no bias. Because I don't, other than like minded community opinion telling me it's bad now. I'd like to be able to express to others why, should the opportunity present itself.

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Some quick points:

  • blocked off API access (last I checked you could get around this by paying an exorbitant fee 🙄) meaning 3rd party apps don't work and you absolutely must use the official app which is garbage and collects all kinds of data from what I've heard (never used it) as well as disabling services that do stuff with reddit data from the API such as mass delete scripts users would use to get their content off reddit

  • fertile ground for bots and bad actors to manipulate, misinform and recruit users into alt-right and other spaces that perpetuate harm

  • moderation policies and practices that allow and in some cases encourage Nazi shit while blocking or restricting harm reduction, LGBTQIA+, anti-fascist, etc topics

  • massive astroturfing and dis/misinfo campaigns

  • flagging the word "Luigi" for violent content with automod and giving people warnings for upvoting content that goes against preferred narratives

And certainly more that I'm forgetting

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If you talk about the Founding Fathers, specifically regarding treatises on violence. The Tree of Liberty was an autoban for at least a decade now.

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I just made the switch to lemm.ee so I think I might just “incite violence” and nuke my account. Good riddance.

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lemmy.world

Mods on Lemmy are a bunch of Napoleonic cunts as well. I'm constantly having posts censored and deleted without clear reason or explanation.

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Binettereply
lemmy.ml

your post was removed because it didn't look like it was from a microblog. i think posting the screenshot of the microblog post you got it from would work out. you can check the modlog.

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Didn't know about the modlog thanks. That was indeed the reason my post was censored even though it very obviously looks like a microblog, is identical to all the other community posts, and is a quote from 1937 so it doesn't matter who reposts. Unsurprisingly, mods are great at censorship, splitting hairs and being pedantic though.

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Play a charicter specifically to get downvotes, even ASK or subtly imply you should.

Make a bot to downvote anything you dont explicitly upvote, but make upvote button un-downvote posts.

Who said button must corralate to intent? Dont dislike this post OP, i worked really hard on it!

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Me not, I never really belonged on that site. I may have browsed it, maybe made some posts but I never truly was a Redditor, never graduated from a lurker. I never had the right mindset for that, nor enjoyed the lame jokes, not to mention I am holding many wrong opinions and karma means nothing to me.

This on the other hand, is the right place where I can truly, honestly articulate myself without getting banned.

There is even more obnoxious minority within the reddit that is my country subreddit. They are some weird amalgamation of incels and worst aspects of internet leftism sprinkled with solid amount of moderator authoritarianism and atmosphere of eternal suffering and wallowing. It is r/Polska btw

The only annoyance with lemmy I have is again the well known brand of internet leftism and glorification of communism. I try to filter this crap out mentally but it is hard to treat some group as a whole seriously, when they unironically cite Marx in 2025.

I might have to actually seek shelter in some thematic Internet forum and let all these groups destroy each other. 20 years should be enough for all of them to die out considering how unhappy they all seem

I don’t like constant ccp propaganda efforts on Reddit either

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lemmy.world

What do you guys expect when you guys want "Luigi" to assassinate others that you don't like or don't agree with lol The same people who posted about the person who "shouldn't have missed"

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lemmy.world

The multitude of passionately, and casually, expressed desires and fantasies unleashed by the event that transpired at 1335 6th Ave on Dec 4, 2024 are symptoms of a socioeconomic illness in sore need of meaningful treatment toward a cure.

No one living a healthy life in a supportive society actually wants violence to occur.

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they were afraid even conservatives were starting turn against them, and cons was thier KEY in bludgeoning any dissent against the oligarchs. they were able to rope them back unfortunately. also because early on it was drowning out any news about TRUMP, which gave people clarity for like 2 weeks.

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commanderreply
lemmings.world

that you don’t like or don’t agree with

Why don't people like or agree with them?

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commanderreply
lemmings.world

Can't say I expected more from you.

Glad I can recognize stupidity when I see it these days.

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