Spyke

This dumbass thinks we'll concentrate better in camps. Psssh. (This was a joke. I know it should be obvious but that's no longer the world we live in.)

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lemmy.world

republicans are silent on this. groceries cheaper yet?

defunding huge amount of government agencies. where is that money going? into the economy? or musk and trumps pockets?

why do republicans support giving even more money to the wealthy at the detriment of the rest of the country?

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BranBucketreply
lemmy.world

Most Republicans think ADHD is caused by liberal parents who don't beat their kids enough, they're silent because they approve.

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remember what trump said, repeatdly, " i dont care about you, i just want your votes",

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fedia.io

I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities

Yes I too read A Scanner Darkly dipshit. I'm absolutely sure you can't wait to send people to the New-Path farming commune so that you can profit off of their altered state in hopes that "one day" they'll be able to rejoin society.

What a fucking dipshit. They just all honest to god want modern slaves. Like good god, there's no veil to it any longer, they just want free fucking labor.

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What do you mean? It's free health care! Isn't that what y'all asked for? /s

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They need that slave labour, to replace all the migrant workers they kicked out. There's "method to their madness"

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lemm.ee

Speaking as someone with ADHD: This would have been the most darkly humorous time to use the phrase "Concentration Camp"

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Yeah, the fucking heavens had to align to create the single greatest opportunity for this pun. The news editor looked up at the choir of singing angels and quietly whispered “no” as they used the word “labor” instead.

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iowagneissreply
midwest.social

I shared this with my wife, who takes Adderall, and your comment is going to finally pull her away from Reddit to Lemmy. Thank you for your service.

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lemmy.ca

Heads up this is from middle of last year.

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lemmy.world

Let's hope he's changed his mind since then. There's a good chance. He seems like the type to spend a lot of time contemplating and reading.

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DogPeePooreply
lemm.ee

He did flip-flop completely on abortion in about one year. Brainworm 🪱 must have changed his mind.

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Does he have grandkids? My money is on a pregnancy scare that affected him directly. Direct experience is usually what it takes for people with no empathy.

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Or he could just change his mind after snorting another line of coke. "And then once they get to my forced happy farm, they'll all get a unicorn and, wait for it man,... they pay me to be there...."

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lemmy.world

How about including Ketamine and starting with that one unelected illegal immigrant who abuses both? No? Figures.

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Good idea, they should keep feeding you adderall at the labour camp, much more effective 😋

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Don't worry, they'll make sure to "protect" your loved ones if you keep working hard. Protect from what, you ask? Well, just keep working hard and you won't need to worry about it.

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lemmy.world

Since it's always projection, TIL RFK Jr. is on Adderall.

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Can't be heroin because he's awake and speaking. Adderall makes more sense.

(And FWIW you can't even get real heroin anymore. These days it's all fent.)

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That worm should have finished the job.

Incidentally, if anyone is a screenwriter, I'd love to see a film where an alien parasite takes over the brain of a prominent politician and forces the population of a country to stop taking prescription meds so it can reproduce. I just don't want to be in that movie.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

There was a TV show, Braindead, in 2016 that was about an alien parasite in politicians heads.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Starring Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Tony Shalhoub, thoroughly enjoyed it and sad it didn't get renewed.

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If the Trusk-era US economy is to run on prison labour, they will need technically skilled inmates. Between people with ADHD and people with depression and anxiety disorders, this should provide plenty.

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Not only that, but "wellnes farms to grow organic food?" Gotta replace all those fieldhands we're about to deport somehow.

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spooky2092reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Lol, you stick me in a labor camp, your just going to be generating extra work for people to clean up after me

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lemmy.today

US Government official wants to put people in concentration camps (no pun intended). Time to get the pitchforks.

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AeonFelisreply
lemmy.world

concentration camps (no pun intended)

Intend your puns, weakling!

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The issue is that what you see as an extreme assumption just seems entirely predictable to others.

These guys are liars. They lie about everything, and say whatever they think will be advantageous at any given moment.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Those are for migrants.

These wellness camps are for American undesirables

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stardustreply
lemmy.ca

Ah I see you are a comrade who buys into phrasing like special operations not meaning invasion. Quite interesting isn't it how effective simple word play leads to some members of the population insisting it isn't what other people see it to be. Concentration camp? No no comrade we don't call it that anymore.

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lemmy.world

The policy, as stated by RFK is a progressive, left wing, anti punishment, anti incarceration, pro rehabilitation with origins in Europe.

Implementation could be right wing but at face value this policy is left wing.

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lemmy.world

The policy, as stated by RFK is a progressive, left wing,

Centrists will call anything progressive. Remember this shit next time a centrist calls one of their own number a progressive. They think concentration camps are progressive. They think concentration camps are progress itself.

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Rehabilitation of illegal drugs in place of incarceration is undeniably left wing.

Treatment for SSRI addiction was voluntary, not authoritarian.

But you do have a point. Vigilance is important. Concentration camps were not announced, but an executive order could turn a "farm" into one overnight.

The clue to the intentions will be in the scale of this policy. 2 farms is not worrying. 200 farms is.

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Rootyreply
lemmy.world

You are a German citizen in late 1939 swallowing each and every Hitler's lie. Wake up before it's too late.

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lemmy.world

And guantanamo has been a detention camp since the Gulf War. The US became fascist long before Trump.

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lemmy.world

You are very wrong.

Detention of citizens (foreign or domestic) without due process is a fascist policy. Whether it for 30 or 30,000.

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slrpnk.net

It kind of sounds like you are unfamiliar with the kinds of "options" people who get caught for drug related offenses are given. Even now it includes things like "optionally" being an informant, or else going to jail or prison. Or in other cases, "optionally" admit you are an addict and submit yourself to a court ordered rehabilitation program, or again, circle the incarceration drain. Should be noted that many of these "rehabilitation" programs in rural areas are faith based - as in, they care more about turning you into a Christian (of their particular denomination), than they do about rehabilitating your actual addiction.

I have a suspicion that this new program is going to coincide with an upsurge in the drug war. I think it would be wise to err on the side of caution and stay away from all federally illegal substances. Supposedly RFK wants to fund this with cannabis taxes, but that is still federally illegal. So they could just as easily institute a cannabis crackdown if they wanted.

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slrpnk.net

What do you mean? According to the article it's what he said recently and is actively pursuing.

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/rfk-jr-wants-to-send-people-on-antidepressants-to-government-wellness-farms/

afaik he mentioned this one on the campaign trail in 2024 on a remote interview

where he wanted to legalize cannabis and create wellness farms where instead of going to jail, drug offenders can go there to grow "organic food" and learn to be part of a community. he said that others could voluntarily go there if they want, such as people addicted to opiates and prescription drugs like benzos, SSRIs, benzos.

it made the news cycle last year and it was taken mostly of out ccontext and it's making the news cycle again, I guess.

my personal opinion is the guy is a loon but this is a distraction from the realtime dismantling of the government we're witnessing right before our eyes

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lemmy.world

And you often have the "option" of going to AA meetings, which are almost always religious, or the "option" of being imprisoned. It's literally the government enforcing religion.

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slrpnk.net

Yup, although, while I do agree that a lot of AA programs are just trojan religion, AA itself can sometimes be a little misrepresented. Like the controversial 'higher power' thing. Maybe not the best language, but I observed similar patterns in my own addiction remediation efforts. At least the way I interpret it is, I'm in this poor state that appears to complete lack the necessary differences in thinking that it would take to get myself out of this; therefore I'm powerless to stop this on my own. I need to seek out a third factor to set things in a different direction.

It doesn't need to be anything mystical. Could literally just be reading a book written by another addict, who happens to share an idea that catalyzes the right changes. Wisdom of an elder. But again, that might just be a misinterpretation on my part. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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lemmy.world

I hear this all the time, but I have to always point out that the only way to make Step 11 non-religious is to totally rewrite it:

Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

There is just not a way to interpret that non-religiously without rewriting it. Which is not surprising, since AA formed out of a prayer group.

If AA helped you, I'm glad it did. But there's no science behind it and AA's success rate is between 5 and 10 percent. It does help some people mainly because it's a form of group therapy.

There are better, more scientific methods. Including medication. Unfortunately, in a for-profit healthcare system, free AA may be your only option. And your local group will almost certainly be religious.

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If AA helped you, I’m glad it did. But there’s no science behind it and AA’s success rate is between 5 and 10 percent. It does help some people mainly because it’s a form of group therapy.

And rehab and treatment has an even lower success rate. Turns out we don't really know how to fix addiction. It's really a cultural thing and we can't put a bandaid with a little bit of therapy.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/03/alcoholics-anonymous-most-effective-path-to-alcohol-abstinence.html

From what I've seen AA / NA is at least as effective as other treatments, some research indicates it's more effective, and considering the fact that it's free compared to thousands of dollars minimum for any kind of treatment you're looking at a massive price delta

NA helped me get clean from heroin and at no point did anybody push religion and everyone made it clear the language is like that cause it was written a long time ago in a different time. They encourage people to take what they can use and throw away the rest.

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Yikes, I wasn't aware the language was so direct like that. 🤣 Yeah, nevermind then.

I was never in AA, or any program for that matter. Just used to be a smoker, and have had pretty heavy drinking habits in the past.

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sh.itjust.works

How do you know what is going through his worm infested brain? I think its fair to assume the worst about this idiot and extrapolate what he actually means when he talks about these 'wellness' camps.

At the very least, he wants to take meds away from people who need them to survive and be happy. That's already batshit levels of insane and cruel. I don't think forced labor camps are too much of a stretch from there.

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sh.itjust.works

I mean I'm not a white american, and I don't see why race matters in this conversation anyways. I'm not on meds, either, but I will speak out for those who are. Obviously, fuck Donald Trump and his literal concentration camp, but this thread was about RFK, and his hypothetical(for the moment) concentration camps, so idk what you are on about.

We would probably be comrades irl. I literally think borders should be illegal, I think you are mad at the wrong person here.

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lemmy.ca

I don't see why you're downvoted. The headline is directly misquoting him.

I don't agree with him on much, but having optional organic farms like a peace corp is not a terrible idea to help people. There's lots of mental health benefits to getting into nature, eating healthy, being active, etc. It's not going to help everyone, but that idea on its own isn't crazy for a government mental health program.

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The current administrations track record with things such as the COVID-19 epidemic would probably end with us smashing sparrows. I would love a proper New Deal - I hope the subsequent administration/government hires artists and architects and we spend our money on building new hospitals and painting them with murals. I would love protections for small farmers - perhaps the avian flu epidemic will devastate Tyson etc to the point small farming will be the only feasible option for a while and we can install protections so that this shit never happens again.

That is not what is happening here though. The weaponization of mental health against minoritized groups, political dissidents, and activists is clearly the plan here.

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The journalism is trash. The Author may think RFK is "Batshit" but they should never include such a word in a factual news report.

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lemm.ee

That's an interesting way to delude yourself about it. Points for creativity I guess.

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lemmy.world

Legalize psychedelics first like you promised, you fucking liar.

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He'd sooner eat a bag of McDonalds than do a single crazy thing he promised. What's that? He already did the McD thing? As a show of fealty to our new king? Oh, my.

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lemmy.world

It's okay. When they take away your SSRIs and force you to farm organic food, they'll keep telling you to smile more.

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Spacehooksreply
reddthat.com

Hopefully, close to a supply of organic fertilizer. For uh health reasons.

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sopuli.xyz

I'm not going to a labor camp. They'll never take me alive.

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Rolderreply
reddthat.com

You know, maybe the pistol I have isn’t enough… Hm

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HelixDab2reply
lemm.ee

I've been saying for years that people on the left need to get strapped, and that cops ain't there to protect them. It's sad that it's taken a fascist getting elected--mostly because too many people on the left were purity testing and sat out--for them to catch on.

...And yet, left-leaning states (Colorado, California, others) keep trying to restrict gun rights even more.

2A4A.

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Rolderreply
reddthat.com

For me the main reason I don’t have something bigger is because guns are expensive!

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HelixDab2reply
lemm.ee

Fair.

FWIW, PSA rifles are perfectly serviceable and can be bought for about $500. Ammunition though... That's where it starts getting really expensive.

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Rolderreply
reddthat.com

Well, for ammunition, you only really need enough to fill like a few magazines, right? Though you’ll want extra to use at the range for practice

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Right, that's what I mean. You need enough ammunition to get proficient, and stay proficient. If you don't practice, your ability will decay fairly rapidly.

Otherwise, I only need something like 250 rounds for the magazines that I carry on my plate carrier (for things like The Gun Run, where you have to carry all your ammo with you) plus the rifle.

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lemmy.world

Not as big a deal, but he also wants to get rid of your WiFi and your cell phone:

Departing momentarily from fake vaccine claims, the gang also had a long discussion about the purported dangers of wifi. Children’s Health Defense, the anti-vaccine organization that Kennedy founded and is the chairman of, has long made a number of false claims about electromagnetic, wireless, and 5G technologies. Kennedy suggested that “wifi radiation” could be causing autism, food allergies, asthma, eczema, or other chronic illnesses, which Rogan, in a rare show of basic critical thinking, suggested was “unlikely.”

“I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier,” Kennedy said, confidently.

Rogan paused and then turned to his producer, Jamie, who often acts as the show’s researcher by Googling things. “Do you see anything online about that?” he asked. After a moment in Google, Rogan paused again.

“Oh my God,” he said, finally, “we gotta get rid of wifi.”

https://www.vice.com/en/article/spotify-rogan-rfk-vaccine-misinformation-policy/

Too bad Joe Rogan is such an idiot. I would have asked RFK Jr. to define mitochondria. It would have made for amusing listening.

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Rogan is such a brainless ape, he is the prime example of an idiot who will believe everything he reads on FB. I lose hope in humanity every time I see his podcast at the top of the charts.

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lemm.ee

I had to deal with so many of those people who insisted that their 'wifi' radiation is like an unshielded nuclear reactor. I would do my best to assauge their concerns... I was in customer service at the time.

Now seeing someone like that in a very important position I find myself wondering if there is even a point to all this.

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I have a feeling that people are starting subconsciously understand cell-phone and social media additiction and its effect on the brains of developing children, but can't quite conceptualize it. So they turn to "wifi is dangerous because.... radiation!"

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Whenever conspiracy theorists start using "expensive"words is always when the funny stuff starts.

Mitochondria? What is that, exactly? Van you explain what it is and how it interacts with the radiation from WiFi?

Anyway, I love this, let's see him ban WiFi in the US. At this point, I'd love seeing that happen.

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Joe Rogan is a useful idiot at best, but likely just a guy who figures out he can be a millionaire if he just pushes the craziest bullshitters as serious and legit people. He caused so much harm already, he deserves to burn in hell.

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

Brain worm tried to get this one, but died of starvation before it could finish the job.

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not so fun fact, rfk jr drove one of his family members to alcoholism and heroin, by bullying him.

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there is another kennedy in the gop, i dont think they are related to brainworms one though.

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Bacanoreply
lemmy.world

They encouraged class consciousness? How so?

I thought they got wiped cause they wanted to stop using the central banks, but never really looked into them

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He started pushing for worker friendly regulations and enabling general strikes before he was assassinated.

Executive Order 10988 is a United States presidential executive order issued by President John F. Kennedy on January 17, 1962 that granted federal employees the right to collective bargaining. This executive order was a breakthrough for public sector workers, who were not protected under the 1935 Wagner Act. Passage of the executive order forestalled the legislative Rhodes-Johnson Union Recognition bill, which would have given more power to federal employee unions, possibly creating a union shop arrangement. Executive Order 10988 was effectively replaced by President Richard Nixon's Executive Order 11491 in 1969.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988

MLK was also pushing for a general strike before he was assassinated.

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Snowclonereply
lemmy.world

JFK flipped on the mob (who claims they killed him, but they are known for saying stuff) he wanted to shut down the CIA and possibly the FBI, He was clearing out the nut parade in the joint cheifs who were seriously suggesting to a WWII war hero that maybe indiscriminately bombing the US as a pretext to war was a great idea! He was also making in roads with Russia behind the scenes, and he had signed the withdraw papers to end The Vietnam War by the time he was assassinate. I don't know who killed him, but I can tell you it was a busy week for the large amount of people that would greatly benifit from his sudden demise.

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Avgreply
lemm.ee

Jokes are funny and don't have a nuclear arsenal.

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If they take away my medication and put me on a farm, I will beat someone to death with a hoe.

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lemmy.world

Why is this so highly upvoted? This is old (pre election) and the title is literally a lie invalidated by the article itself.

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lemmy.world

While the article is a little dated, it's also a little misleading since he's describing all brain altering drugs, such a opioids.

Still not great, but the devil's advocate could still argue that mandatory rehab at a commune for drug abuse is quite reasonable (especially over prison). What's problematic is him making it a labor camp, and including things like Adderall even if it doesn't quite sound mandatory in their case. Adderall abuse certainly exists, as with most things, but it's certainly no heroin.

Right now the status quo sucks, though, as far as drug rehab and government services are concerned. Since at least Reagan, we've gutted those services to those who need it. Just wish it wasn't these assholes filling that void. Really need a progressive in office...

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sinceasdfreply
lemmy.world

More like if we don't get our basic facts straight we look just as disconnected as they are. This post is misleading and there is absolutely no need to exaggerate, RFKs idea is plenty stupid but now the article is just an easily dismissed propaganda piece because it eschews objective reality instead of just outlining the actual stupidity. Who is to trust anything in this article after the title is outright wrong? Like this entire article isn't even worth anyone's time, it's just RFK spitballing to the media so they had to make up a bs title while there are real news articles likely getting ignored

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pixeltreereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Sorry maybe you don't deserve to be on the end of my comment there but I'm so sick and tired of people trying to interpret clearly intentionally bad promises as charitably as possible and I let it out

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sinceasdfreply
lemmy.world

I mean you're right lol and I like the way you phrased it. Same here honestly, I was annoyed andI mostly wanted to make a tangential point about people getting worked up over vapid newsy-sounding articles while ignoring actual problems, this shit wasn't worth reading when it was new and now it's here, 6 months old and past the election it was written for, with tons of engagement

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

What do you think is more likely, Republicans, for the first time in existence do something to help people and put together a safe and comprehensive mental wellness program for people that need it that would cost billions? Or the party of the 13th amendment expanding it to include anyone they deem undesirable?

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taiyangreply
lemmy.world

I think my point is they're exploiting a real need in order to push whatever crap agenda they have. That's true in healthcare, immigration, and "the price of eggs" (read: social inequality). Until those holes are fixed, there'll be conmen to exploit our needs.

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You'll have to forgive me if I'm not very generous with Nazis talking about labor camps and people with disabilities.

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lemmy.ml

Yeah and Hitler did meth. Fascists make rules for the underlings not themselves

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Hitler just did regular amphetamine, not meth. This is closer to what adderal actually is.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

and cocaine, and its well known he wears diaper because cocaine made him permanantly incontinent.

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Yeah and they were actively pushing drugs on soldiers and pilot while actively putting "drug addicts/addled" people in concentration camps.

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He can start with the junkies that crush it and snort it, you know, Donald Trump.

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lemmy.world

So, is going to send ALL those use Adderall? Really? What about Adderall abusers? Oh right, they have complete SCOTUS immunity.

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Wow a health nut AND a fascist!!! Who could have seen THESE two things fitting together so nicely.... is it everyone?

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lemmy.ca

When your just trying to follow to Nazi playbook, but you misunderstand what a concentration camp is...

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Is like a meditation retreat, a nice quiet place you can go to concentrate on your self.

/s (i hate poe's law)

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Ah yes food has caused all my behavioral issues def not being sexually abused at a young age 🙃

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Apparently, during the last Trump administration the pharmacy at the White House handed Adderall out like candy to all the staffers. Every accusation is a confession.

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lemmy.world

So how would they deal with sabotors that just ruin crop. Do they give them their meds back?

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Lka1988reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

They'll threaten the people you love if you don't comply.

Look around at other places that do this kind of thing. You don't think they've thought about that already? There's a story floating around about a dude in a similar situation who didn't meet the quota (or something), and they cut off his little kid's hand as punishment.

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sh.itjust.works

Exactly. Getting people to work when in involuntary servitude is a solved problem. You can research some of the history of what methods were used to get African slaves to work, especially in the early colonial Caribbean colonies, if you really want to lose faith in humanity.

It was actually a quite difficult problem from the slaver's perspective. You kidnap some guy from the coast of West Africa. You take him from his family, haul him across an ocean, and force him to work against his will on a sugar plantation on a Caribbean island. You offer him no way out and instruct him he's to work as hard as he can until he keels over and dies. He gets nothing from his work, and he has no way to earn or buy his freedom. Oh, and he doesn't think he did anything to deserve this treatment either.

Exactly what motivation does this man have to work for you exactly? Early on, in these slave colonies, the slavers found that many abducted people would simply refuse to eat and starve themselves to death. The inescapability of their predicament meant that the slaves couldn't even hold out hope for eventual rescue or escape. It would be like if you were abducted by aliens and hauled off to a planet in another galaxy. There's simply no way you're escaping and getting back home. So many slaves would simply refuse to work and just starve themselves to death.

Eventually the slavers did figure out ways to coerce slaves into working. And those methods are as bad, and probably even worse, than you can imagine.

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I wonder if there was ever a sufficient overlap in the dubious diagnoses that someone was diagnosed simultaneously with both drapetomania and hysteria.

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Cattailreply
lemmy.world

... Yeah this is real world and Stanford prison experiment was just role play that ended in humiliation

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Yep. That experiment was cut short after only, what, a week? Turns out if you give people unchecked power over others, it might turn sour. Luckily someone had a spine and ended it.

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OBJECTION!reply
lemmy.ml

Well, it's voluntary (the title is misleading), so they'd probably just tell you to leave.

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Lka1988reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Or get arrested and put into involuntary servitude, with threats of torture and other unimaginable things.

Y'all wanna pretend that this isn't that dangerous. The fact that they're even floating this idea is terrifying.

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OBJECTION!reply
lemmy.ml

You already can be put into involuntary servitude if convicted.

It's strange to me that anyone would find this terrifying relative to the actual fucked up shit they're doing and saying. Like, the fact that they're banning medications people depend on is legitimately terrifying. The idea that they're secretly plotting to force everyone into labor camps isn't really, because it's pure speculation based on nothing. There's no need to focus on the speculative threat when the real threat is already so significant, if anything, it detracts from the severity of what's actually happening.

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Lka1988reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Both of those concepts are not mutually exclusive.

My family is directly affected by RFK's "ideas". Not to make the prison labor a "lesser" issue; the issue is that they're floating the idea of targeting people who depend on those meds at all, as if they've done something wrong.

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OBJECTION!reply
lemmy.ml

But the point is that they're not doing that. They haven't said anything about punative measures for those meds, that part is pure speculation.

What isn't speculation is that these rehab centers are being used as an alternative to justify banning medications. That's bad enough without having to get into speculation.

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Lka1988reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

This is how the Holocaust actually got started. It's much more sinister than people realize. They didn't go straight to labor camps on day 1. They started "othering" groups they didn't like, just by words. Until they started to justify banning and legislating them out of the public eye, to appease the now-fearful public. They started getting arrested for simply existing in the wrong places, and that's when the labor camps started.

That process started in 1933. And the people in charge are mirroring this dangerously close.

I have a family to look after and ensure their future (what little of it may be left). If you don't like what I have to say, then we are clearly on opposite sides of the fence, so do us both a favor and fucking block me.

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What have they said that otherizes people taking SSRIs? I genuinely haven't seen it, other than taking actions to ban the meds, which is exactly what I've been saying should be the focus, as opposed to baseless speculation about forced labor.

I understand that this is an important issue for you, but all I'm doing to correcting misinformation. The seriousness of the situation is all the more reason why accurate information is important. I have no idea why you think I'm "on the opposite side of the fence" just because I think we should focus on what's actually happening and being said.

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Plea bargain agreements are always "voluntary." Because the alternative is almost always going to be worse.

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Those people would be most efficient? Is that the case? Does adderall make you really fast, strong and smart?

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lemmy.ca

What the hell's happened to him? Was RFK Jr not one of the good guys at one point? I feel like I missed something.

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Avgreply
lemm.ee

Brain worm? Good pr team?

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lemmy.ca

Seriously, was he not a good guy not that long ago? Either he wasn't and I wasn't paying enough attention to the man, or he was and I've missed something where he changed.

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lemmy.world

He's known for his work as an anti pollution lawyer, helping poor communities get justice from big corporations. He's also known for believing + spreading vaccine disinformation and various other already debunked conspiracy theories. Probably a good guy to know on a personal level because he cares about people, but still not someone that you want to have in charge of policy making because he's a gullible tool.

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He advised Somoa to not take a vaccine... and they had an outbreak (surprise). Things went downhill from there.... he doubled down and took the crazy path.

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lemmy.ca

Thanks. I'm thinking now I just wasn't paying enough attention, and only heard the good stuff.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

He's been in the news cycle a lot lately for bonkers ideas. It's genuinely concerning that he is in control of health policy and its almost a certainty that his bonkers ideas will cost many lives. This is the view of thousands of doctors that signed a petition in opposition to his appointment.

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I've noticed that, that he's in the news much more. I think that's why I'm just now catching up. He's not someone who really interested me much, so I would listen to just snippets before.

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It sounds like communist "reeducation camps". I know the far-right claims to hate communism but they're a lot alike in that they want control over people's lives.

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I guess it's a good think i'm still undiagnosed with ADHD, even though it meansI gotta pay way more to get my adderall

Been to 4 different doctors and they all seem to think I don't have ADHD its nuts

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