Tesla pulls out all the stops as Cybertruck sales grind to a halt
Tesla Cybertruck appears to be facing significant sales challenges. After initial hype faded, and over a million reservations turned out to be as real as unicorns, Tesla is now enabling leasing options and free upgrades to move its inventory of the futuristic pickup truck. The company's recent silence on the Cybertruck, even omitting it from their earnings call, speaks volumes about the situation.
Tesla initially projected sales of 500,000 Cybertrucks annually and established production capacity at the Giga Texas for 250,000 units per year. After working through the initial reservation backlog with fewer than 40,000 deliveries, the automaker is now struggling to sell the remaining vehicles.
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Have they tried suing people who don't want to buy one?
In case you weren't referencing this, be amazed:
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-sue-cybertruck-buyers-they-resell-in-first-year-2023-11?op=1
I was referencing how Elon is suing companies for not wanting to advertise on X. But this is amazing, too.
Hmm, it's kind of like he has an established MO for when his businesses are failing due to his own poor decisions and lack of business sense.
Does that mean Canada and Mexico will be sued if the tariffs don't make them beg to be annexed?
Trump lifted the tariffs. At this point I think it was just a smoke screen so there would be less coverage of Elon taking over the Treasury.
There are no smoke screens with this government. They don't "do X to cover for Y." None of it is "a distraction." They're impulsive children. They do X because they want to do X. But what they have learned is that if you move fast and do a lot of bad things all at once, you usually get away with at least some of them.
He delayed them for a month.
Nononono.
It's that woke mind virus! Those infectious liberals have prevented true patriots from buying his shitty cars to proposely smash their fingers in the trunk.
And now he has access to the government billing office and all our SS numbers. Don’t hold your breath for your tax refund this year.
Hmm, it's almost like he's an entitled billionaire not comfortable living in the real world with people who actually have free will! I don't care how many zeros, he's a loser.
Probably an effort to prevent scalping. Oh, how optimistic they were...
Oh no 😥
You joke, but I wouldn’t be shocked if someone in particular gets that brainwave before too long
That might be the biggest harbinger of whether musk or Trump is running things. Trump has banned fed government from buying EV.
So much of the promo for the Tim and Eric mandatory attendance world tour 2020 has come true it’s fucking insane, man
You mean These people
Whoa, there was a lot of fElon fellatio in the replies on that site.
This should surprise no one. The reception was poor, delivery was poor. It’s a niche market item in an existing niche market. On top of that, the de facto spokesperson of Tesla isn’t well liked by a lot of potential buyers.
"niche market," is a way of saying they made a bad product few want.
pickup trucks are hardly a niche product especially in the us
I don't think I'd call that thing a pickup. I'm not gonna run to the farm and pick up a 1000lb bale of hay in that thing. A Baja looks like it has more bed space.
A bad pickup truck is still just a pickup truck.
Yep, what else could you call it? It's not a hatchback, a sedan, a convertible, a sports car, etc.
Swasticar
Incel Camino
An enormous mistake?
It's an Ute (as the Australians et al. call it), like the old El Camino etc.
Real pickups have body-on-frame construction with cabs and beds bolted onto the chassis separately, so that the bed can be removed and replaced with a specialized/custom one if necessary.
Calling it a ute implies some degree of utility.
Hatchbacks can fold down the rear seats to extend the cargo area. The Cybertruck fails even at that.
Yeah. A wagon.
The worst El Camino ever?
A kid's drawing of a car come to life.
Hakencruiser
Trash.
Most pickup truck owners don't do that either.
Maybe in the US they don’t…
And more ground clearance
It makes more sense if you start from the other side - EVs are a niche market, and an electric truck is a small subset of that.
The Cybertruck sold 38,965 units last year, vs 33,510 for the Ford F150 Lightning.
One of the things I love about my Lightning is that it doesn’t look like a fucking cybertruck
Other truck makers tend to let their vehicles fully render.
I will hand it to Tesla, iterating on the Cybertruck design must have been really fast.
Iteration 1 in play
Gotta save some polygons.
The Lightning really is a nice looking truck.
The trapezoid Minecraft
CybertruckDeplorian— not so much…I'll be borrowing that one.
See also:
Hey, that is a very hurtful thing to say about Minecraft. Please don't compare it to that rolling dumpster fire
Deplorian... Made me snarf. My previous go to, overheard a while back, Incel Camino.
"Wankpanzer" is the one I've been going with.
😂 oh I like that! Good trade.
I'm not a Ford guy, but they do look pretty good.
They shipped 39k cybertrucks for backlogged preorders that were based on a completely different description of what the truck would be.
Well yeah, but to be fair, they were lying.
Which is mind boggling, as the Lightning seems like a good, attractive vehicle, while the cybertruck seems like a pile of shit
I have no need for a truck, and I still considered getting one. The Lightning is very impressive all around.
The Lightning has also been out for a few years now, so it's not the "new" thing. Also, I feel like half of those cYbErTrUcK purchases were people trying to resell them.
Hopefully these people get double-fucked. Moreso because they bought a swasticar from President Musk, but also because fuckyou to people who buy stuff just to resell at a higher margin.
I'm assuming the electric f150 has greater than 1 wheel drive?
Actually most vehicles are only 1-wheel drive unless they have a locker or similar installed (4x4 would be "2-wheel drive").
Which vehicles have that? The base cybertruck has two motors for AWD.
It's just to make OP feel smart. A single driven axle with an open differential with one wheel on more slippery ground than the other would result in only one wheel transferring torque.
Regular F150s have single wheel drive.
Can you explain? I'm not much into cars, but that doesn't sound right to me. A quick Google suggests maybe you're referring to the open differential, but I don't think that means that only one wheel is powered.
They’re referring to an open differential. If you look at an open differential vehicle doing a burnout you will see that only one wheel is spinning.
I guess making a search online is the one thing slightly more difficult than making an assumption.
You gotta love these comments in forums. Like the whole point of being here is to discuss and people like this are literally telling you to leave the site. Very useful, much contributions.
OK, but what the hell was that person on about though?
To be fair, it's valid to cater to niche markets.
However, that wasn't what Tesla was aiming to do.
cybertruck is barely even a truck at all. its a truck shaped car for rich assholes to look rugged.
Try and fail to look rugged. They just end up looking like the douche nozzles they are.
They're a comedy show on wheels. They always lighten my mood when I see them. I'm a little smug too, knowing if I had that much money to blow, it wouldn't be on one of those.
Which is a very niche market. I'm not part of that market.
Tanks camouflaged as pickup trucks are.
When did they start importing the Hilux?
And the cybertruck is hardly a pickup truck. What were you saying?
Just wait till DOGE start requiring it for all government vehicles
"What?! You all wanted electric mail trucks, so here they are!"
(Sadly / Probably)
oh shit...
With all the trailer capacity available it will be able to carry one, maybe even TWO packages!
I'd like a GTA singleplayer cheat making every police car a cybertruck that can't pursue you for long and would rather lose control and do a barrel roll than even get close to you.
"Isn't well liked" is quite the understatement. "Despised" is more like it. I actually like the way the cybertruck looks, I think the technology is interesting, and if I really wanted to, I could probably afford one.
I wouldn't drive one if it was given to me for free. I'd rather take a taxi every day than drive a public display of support for the treasonous fascist manchild that owns the company.
Tesla's second biggest problem is their shit standards and quality control. Their first biggest problem is their shit corporate leadership.
I swear that every time I saw one, the people around would point and laugh. 100k+ to drive a car that is always broken and mocked by everyone is quite expensive.
Hey! I heard you could get one of these fasc-mobiles for $75k, now!
/s
I mean off the bat that's one of the worse combinations of people/product I've ever seen. I mean off the bat electric car's target market is people that want to think they are doing something better for the environment.
So... then the guy making them goes loudly in the "fuck the environment" group.
To top it off though, Cybertruck itself always confuses me. I don't know who the target audience is. The original tesla's I could look at and think, that's a cool car, if they ever came down in price I'd be interested.
Cybertruck you look at and think... What a car would look like if you scaled up games from the 32/64 bit console era and made them HD without increasing the polygon count.
My problem with Tesla is that so many things seem half-unthinking, half-finished or half-assed:
Unthinking: I know! I'll put a ledge in from of the headlights, so snow can pile up while I'm driving!
Unfinished: all the seam mismatches and eternally unfinished-but-really-close! full self-driving (it ain't gonna happen).
Half-assed: that recall they had to do because sometimes the latch doesn't catch properly and the hood flies open when you're driving and blocks your view. Tesla's solution isn't to fix or replace the hood latch so this doesn't happen; they push a software up that monitors the hood latch and pops up a warning, telling you to pull over and check the hood latch. Because apparently fixing the issue that their poor design (see #1) and bad implementation (see #2) doesn't warrant an actual fix, they're just going to fob the risk , the cost and the work off to the customer.
I like the theory that Tesla had a long term roadmap before Elon scooped it up, and that he wasn't able to do too much to disrupt that in the early years because he was focused on LARPing as Tony Stark on the Internet, and the team that developed around him to insulate the company from him were reasonably good at their jobs. But even the best can only hold back so few bad ideas while keeping up the illusion, and the result has been gradually diminishing amount of ass.
Until that roadmap ran out, and/or Elon stopped being distracted, resulting in them designing and building the Elon.
Promised by next year since 2013
The target audience is monied tech bro millenials who really wanted a warthog out of Halo.
The problem is that the overlap between tech bros and nazi lovers is definitely not 100%, probably not even 10%.
Dont be so sure about that ratio. Plently of "got mine, im all bootstraps" tech bros. Id put the number at about 70/30% against nazis, but no better.
If they wanted a Warthog, they should have gotten a Jeep.
Or built one. There are at least three fully functioning Warthogs out there, I think. I've seen the one at Weta.
We're not all buying EVs for the environment. I bought an EV because I think the car is cool and it's really enjoyable to drive. It's nice that the "gas" is also significantly cheaper, but that wasn't high on my list of reasons to get the thing, either.
The EV owners I've talked to didn't buy them for the environment, either, but I haven't talked to any Leaf owners or anything. Maybe they're more environmentally conscious. It being better for the environment long term is definitely nice, and I hope progress continues on batteries made with less toxic components.
Thankfully, I did not buy a Tesla and they were never on my list of options because of Elon. So he definitely alienated a customer due to him being an awful human being. I also won't use any of their charging stations, since I don't want them to profit off of me.
You could say we bought our Teslas “for the environment” in a way, though a bit roundabout. When we bought them (2018), it was after having previously leasing a Leaf which had shit mileage and poor performance over 40mph. We wanted to signal to the industry with our dollars that we wanted the EV movement to succeed. Because apparently money is the only thing they listen to. We knew full well that EVs were only a step toward a greener future or whatever but we wanted the industry to take that step and understand that being environmentally friendlier was important.
Plus the initial sales were to people who had already committed to preorders at a lower price for a truck that was hyped up to be far better than the end result.
Cybertrucks are basically No Man's Sky but without the possibility of being good in a half decade.
Dag, yo. 🔥
Isn’t well liked…. Is a Nazi.
Let's not forget the quality. Also poor.
Plus it looks stupid, like what my drawings of a car looked like at 5 years old
It is jaw dropping that only 40,000 of their one million+ reservations actually turned into sales. Thats 4% conversion!
Also, trucks are not a niche market. And there is pretty minimal overlap between the kind of douche who wants one of these and people who object to Musk’s behavior. It’s designed for his cult, especially.
Nazi truck.
Apparently Elon hates it when you call them swasticars, so definitely do not do that.
*SwastiKKKar
I'm not sure why, but every time I see one I think of a giant tick that has guzzled way too much blood and is about to explode.
Swasticars for swasticucks
I can understand why Nazis like it, given the truck's habit of trapping you inside as it engulfs you in flames.
Every time a Tesla burns a devil gets it's horns.
Innocent people are being killed. Not really something to celebrate.
They bought a cybertruck. Are they really innocent?
Or they know someone who bought a cyber truck. Passengers who accepted a ride. Children or family members who have no control over what the buyer does. Be realistic
"People deserve to die for buying the wrong car. I am the good guy in this scenario."
Wankpanzer
Apartheidsemi
Fashcan?
The best thing they could do for their sales is get rid of all ties to Elon Musk.
And get real professionals to design and build future models.
Also have anyone who understands basic car design point out why shit like door opening buttons are a terrible idea in emergencies. Or why requiring the doors to lock during a software update is stupid. Or why putting electronics not designed for extreme heat is terrible. Or that trying to use cameras in bad weather isn't any better than human eyes....
Now, the origin of all those terrible ideas will be running the government.
I'm sure people pointed out all of those things and were overruled by the Nazi manchild in charge.
It's all 5d chess technology that us plebs would never understand, what with our preference for simple, maintainable shit.
Just ordinary professionals will do nicely.
Or even better, get Olivier Boulet (of Mitsubishi infamy) to do their future designs so we can put the company out of its misery.
I definitely would've considered Tesla as my first EV but as of now they're dead to me. If he was completely gone then that actually becomes a selling point for me.
Instead they did the opposite and gave him the biggest bonus in world history.
As the article title states, unlike Elon Musk, Tesla pulls out.
While true this still won’t make the Cyberdrumpf meet EU regulations. You can’t make it street legal here.
They’ve gone a long way on flash and sex appeal but I think a little straightforward practical value would help them a lot. The market is awash in good competition now so their novelty effect is gone. And the sex appeal has ended for everyone except for 40k cyberdouches.
I remember posting about how a guy with a cybertruck would be an immediate no go for me and I was told by a guy I was being too judgy lol
It’s a solid real world filter.
This is definitely more acceptable than “no social media” being a red flag. Got that one before lol
No social media is a green flag IMO.
You're literally using social media right now.
Edit: Downvote me all you want, but the fact of the matter is that Lemmy is social media. There's media on here, and we discuss it in a social setting. Literally the definition of "social media".
Anonymous social media like this is not what people think of when someone says "social media".
Pseudonymous, not anonymous. It's a little difference, but one that can determine whether you land behind bars/dead/doxxed.
All social media can be anonymous if you want it to be ;)
This is more akin to forums of old and less like your facebooks, snaps, etc
I like the term that was applied to reddit, antisocial media.
Yes, if you're too young to remember what a forum is, i guess you can call it social media
Forums are social media
And pee is basically just water
No not the same. Forums didn't revolve around media, they revolved around discussions.
And I'm 37, thankyouverymuch
Both can be true. I’m reducing my usage of the REALLY BAD social media and trying to make THIS social media better.
Well, ackshually ☝️🧐
I give the gift of a free bird to any I pass on the street.
Are you Lynyrd Skynyrd?
I did go to high school in Alabama, and know somebody from Muscle Shoals ...
lol same
Is no social media a red flag?
I've heard it mentioned, but I assume the people who believe it are people who are on Instagram all day
To a lot of people yes, but I think they're more worried there's nothing that proves you're a real person, if that makes sense.
I see it as a liability more than anything. Your data is forever.
Not really, but since we live in a world where most people are happily sharing their lives online it's easy to imagine how not using social media might make people think you have something to hide and, therefore, can't be trusted.
Few it fewer people are actually using Facebook and similar to share their lives because it just feels really intrusive.
Mostly because how much advertising is now showed down your throats.
If they want to know more about me I can share my camera feed but it's like 98% cat photos.
Imagine a cyber truck bro listening to Joe Rogan in that thing. How does that not make every woman in sight instantly aroused?? /s
My panties are soaked! I'm also a pudgy middle-age dude.
You can buy incontinence sheets at the pharmacy, y'know?
If they're not branded by right-wing personality I'm not interested.
:(
Being honest, if I heard about a woman that has cybertruck red flags (assuming you're cis/het), that's genuinely more attractive to me.
This is valid just on taste alone. The thing was ugly even before Elon started his descent into madness.
Rich enough to own a cyber truck, but not bright enough not to own a cyber truck. Yeah it's what they "call look at me" energy.
Politics notwithstanding people like that are just tiring to be around.
All they had to do was build a solid, reliable truck, and not be fascist. Instead they build a poorly glued together piece of shit and sieg heil. I fucking hate this timeline.
The Swasticar!
I’m betting high odds he will force the federal government to buy them under the guise of a green EV transition. With trump’s full blessing, of course.
Is this the one they let musk design? Feels like a Simpsons episode...
So... how long before the federal government buys up a couple million of these things...?
I wish journalist would stop calling this PS 1 Pontiac Aztek "futuristic"; it just highlights how shitty our future is going to be.
I mean it would fit well in Robocop or The Running man so I guess it counts
I'm thinking more omikron the nomad soul lmao.
Both shitty visions of the future. Well the movie for Running Man took place 6-8 years ago, and the book takes place this year which could count as "future" since we're only in February.
So things are going to go downhill real fast, is what you're saying
That's retro-futuristic, a very different thing.
It would certainly fit this version of Robocop.
Ironically, the Aztek is way better, despite its age...
I got some advice for them: Fire your CEO.
Have they tried pulling out the "Make a vehicle that's not a massive and shitty death trap," or "Boot the Nazi from the company" stops? Because, I suspect doing those two might help it out.
The myth of Elon is still going strong. Now he's taking over government agencies. Not that it's the right move, but keeping him on might keep the stock at the insanely overvalued level it's at. That's all that matters.
No thank you. I don't want a swasticar.
I'd love to have one of those new production old style beetles. But we can't buy them here because our govt sucks donkey dick.
Why isn't the puny, petulant man-thing that runs the Nazicar Factory not suing us all for not buying them? That's how you deal with advertisers who don't wanna advertise with him so why not consumers who don't want to consume?
It's the next stupid, asinine step.
I hope anyone who ever admired this fuck face is deeply embarrassed. Or losing money.
I just had a talk with a friend of mine in southern Ontario who lives in a farming rural area. He likes cars and often does searches for used vehicles in his area. In a 200km area around Brantford, there are over 200 used Teslas on sale down there over the past month or two because people are dumping them because they don't like the brand.
The well moneyed sort who buy Teslas also like to change cars more often than the rest of us. Some of them are going to even more expensive brands like Rivian, and there’s a huge array of less expensive, more practical options.
Here’s how I personally see the brand transformation. I don’t believe these people are so principled that they are dumping these cars in protest. It’s more that the appeal that used to be there: of being part of the future, of moving off gas and embracing clean tech to help save the world… that little halo just isn’t part of the brand anymore. I see Teslas all the time where I live with license plates like “BYE CO2” and “LOL GAS.” But no one is going to hop on board that Tesla hype train any longer. They are no longer novel, they no longer virtue-signal and yes have actually become a bit icky. But I think we’re just seeing the end of the mirage, not really any kind affirmative lashback.
Have they tried making a decent truck?
The main reason I bought a truck was to tow heavy shit, and this piece of fuck trash Cyber truck can't even do that without the battery failing after less than 100 miles. Meanwhile an F150 can tow six times it's own weight thousands of miles.
I'm surprised you mentioned the battery (which is a problem with any EV towing), and not the fact the hitch can just snap off if you hit a pothole hard enough.
Wait what?!?!
The one person I know who owns a cyber truck was upset when I didn't call him when I had a truck needing emergency, my wife's car had broken down on a freeway offramp. The people that own these stupid things are cos playing as truck people even moreso than the average truck owner. The weirder part of his upsetness is, I was already driving a 3/4 ton truck because my commuter vehicle was not running. All I had to do was go get a uhaul trailer and go get her car. My mind is still boggled that he threw a fit about not calling him.
LOL. I have a truck for towing and other truck-related things and am quite happy to help others with aforementioned truck activities when asked. The amount of times I get upset when people don't call me to do truck things is like, hmmmm let's see....zero. It is zero times. A shrug is all I might manage to evoke from the drama.
It was the weirdest shit. He doesn't know anything about towing or hauling. His cybertruck is the first truck like vehicle he has ever owned and for some reason his ego tells him he's qualified to help. Its probably his total lack of experience that caused his upset.
To redeem him a bit he is incredibly willing to help people. He's just got more money than brains and experience lol.
Yah, I was about to mention ego being very much involved in all of this from the purchase of the "truck" to feeling spurned by not being asked to help. My ego would be hard-pressed to avoid educating him. Politely, of course.
Do you get upset when people move without calling you? 😄
Yes! Shouldn't your parents tell you before you come home from school???
Well that would make you in the 10% of people actually using their truck
I bought a truck as a back up to my daily and weekend warrior, purely for towing and dirty jobs.
Always used my daily with a tow hitch for most things and honestly still pick it with a 6x8’ trailer on occasion over my truck often because it’s easier to maneuver…
A few of us exist
Tbf it’s kinda a fundamental limitation of electric vehicles vs gas that the energy density of gas is way higher.
Value is harder to deliver than hype.
I was one of those that put down a deposit and happily waited for this truck to replace my 25 year old car. Then after he called the diver/rescuers pedophiles, I was instantly turned off. Now I actively push others to not buy a Tesla and refer to all Teslas as a Nazi mobile.
Get fucked Elon.
Muskie boy, have you tried suing people to get them to buy the truck?
Is that "all stops", as in they will get rid of that guy who very definitely did a Nazi salute?
I wouldn't take a cybertruck if it was free, ignoring musk entirely it's just a bad vehicle.
The only place I'll drive a Cybertruck is in Fortnite because there I want my car to be unsafe.
It is not a good pickup truck regardless of Musk being a fascist
Even if you ignore the politics it's just a terrible car that is way too expensive. I'm honestly surprised it sold any units at all but I guess people just like vanity toys.
Uplifting news
All DEI fault for this failure
/s (if it wasn’t obvious 🙂)
Bit like Elon, Never lived up to the hype
Weird, I've heard Elon's pull out game sucks balls.
And I've heard the majority of his kids are IVF/surrogate... does Leon even fuck?
I'm sorry
Yes but the joke if you missed it was thats a picture of Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil.
Is this a bot?
I think the reason Cybertruck sales have ground to a halt has to do with their CEO Department's way of managing things and breaking into Governmental Agency's Private Information. It's also the reason you will find "FUCK ELON MUSK" being spray-painted onto Cybertrucks.
A couple weeks ago I drove past a Tesla dealership in Northern California. They must have had a dozen of these dumpsters lined up out front.
Is it possible to orgasm from schadenfreude?
Tesla just needs a new slogan or a good marketing campaign.
Something like:
Tesla - power by joy
Or "Kraft durch Freude" in German.
All that would perfectly fit the brand image.
Leon the Nazi can ask his dictator buddies, Abbott and the Orange Cockroach for a bailout.
i wonder when ol stinky starts pushing somekind of law that makes it mandatory to buy one
Well if they'd stop putting signage with "Arbeit Macht Frei" over the entrance to their factories maybe they'd do better.
If you do not revolt against the government, you will receive a free cybertruck as a replacement for your house, which will be too expensive to live in.
Each immigrant willing to leave voluntarily will receive a free cybertruck.
The US military, firefighters, EMT's and police force will get new vehicles! They will all start to use cybertrucks.
Tesla's were already ugly as sin and these things looked even worse. It's not surprising.
Eh, I think they're fine. They're unique while still being aerodynamic, which is pretty hard in such a crowded field.
I'm not a fan, but I can totally understand those who are.
That said, the Cybertruck throws all of that out the window and is objectively ugly.
I certainly find it funny that Tesla's waiting list went from five years down to zero. Even Tesla's biggest fans who actually stumped money on this thing produced video after video griping about its price & brokenness.
But frankly it was kind of obvious from the get-go that it would be an expensive, uninsurable, lemony asshole death mobile. I wonder if the next time Tesla announces something and Musk spews lie after lie about it that people will start to cotton on that nothing he says can be taken at face value.
I am shocked they sold as many of them as they did. I get that there are mindless fans, but this is quite an expensive and ugly commitment to make.
Musk aside, it looks so goddamn stupid, I'd be embarrassed to drive around in it regardless. Like a cheap 80s movie version of what a futuristic car would look like.
And as Others have noted, why would you want a truck that looks like it can carry less stuff than a motorcycle can?
If we had one more season of Silicon Valley, Russ would absolutely be rubbing finger prints out of his Founder Edition Cyber Truck.
The world would also just be a happier and better place with another season.
What a shock, the meme car only sold a few units before people were over it. LoL 😂
I’d have guessed coke, not ketamine, as drug of choice to make these estimates. Maybe he’s already counting federal agencies to be stiffed with the cyberwanker?
The only thing Elon's ever pulled out of.
Beat me to it
It's the price. I want a truck, not a Cadillac with a bed. A truck is meant for work not be a pavement princess. $50k was already high and the truck market is still stupid on price with most trucks going over $60k and Cybertruck starts at $75.5k. If the price was what Elon said when he announced the Cybertruck, it would be flying off the shelves $40k
And that certainly ain't no Cadillac.
As and when announced, it would have been one of the cheapest EVs. I’m not interested in a truck, but that announced price and done of the technology they promised, were very tempting. However now we see how preorders based on just an announcement are risky
Exactly, they were taking reservations at the $40k price for a really long time. I was looking to buy an EV in 2021 and at that price, it was significantly cheaper than anything being sold. I laughed at how fucking ugly the thing was, but it was so cheap that I didn't hesitate to put down a reservation.
Then when it was released, it was like $100k. Ain't no way am I paying that for that piece of shit. And in the meantime, Elon went full on Nazi. I could kind of ignore his dumbfuckery back in 2021 but not now.
Turns out the group of people who look at mid nineties Laura Croft and think “that low polygon count asthenic is exactly how I like my women and trucks, I’ve got lots of disposable income to buy a truck that can’t do many truck things well, and I’m glad a far right ketamine fueled tech bro is running the company!” Is a small number of people.
Who would've thought that a very expensive truck in an ev market that is lukewarm at best, add in a good amount of weird looks and unreliability, wouldn't be a big seller? I could pick a conventional truck for a fraction of the price or this. People who bought it were doing it for show and now that market is tapped out.
I'm still waiting for them to finish loading in.
Yeah because they were showing such restraint before.
At least the Wolkswagen was egineered properly. I don't see anyone continuing to use this design after the war.
I saw my first cybertruck in traffic yesterday, I initially thought that some redneck had every part you need to make a car except for the frame and body, and was like "I don't need none of that fancy shit, I got square tube and steel plate!" and welded together the laziest design they could think of. Then I realized it was just a cybertruck, and promptly laughed at it.
Who the hell buys a cybertruck anyway ?
There were stops left that could be removed from Cybertrucks, still?
Now if I could just get my 6YO to stop fawning over them.
got treasure money now, no need to sell overpriced junk
Has Elon Musk tried not being a fascist plutocrat?
Not even Hitler would buy one. He's got too much self-respect than to associate with Elon.
I'm surprised those weren't optional, paid DLC
I knew they should have built a real smoke and engine noise generator into the cyber truck. So that all those who insist on polluting, don't have to be left out.
Probably would have helped if it didn't look cobbled together out of sheet metal for a low-budget post-apocalypse movie. I picture Humungus standing up in it chasing Mel Gibson.
I can't buy one, they are not available in NZ yet. Despite what anyone else says, I like the look, it looks like the bastard child of a delorian and a countach, but in a good way.
I wouldn't buy one despite the fact that I like it. It is far too big for NZ roads, I may have overlooked that. But I can't overlook the fact that Elon has, for me at least, destroyed any good will that was built up. Tesla and all the people who work there have been tarred with the Nazi brush that Elon is wielding.
The only way that Tesla could claw back any respect from me (and hopefully the rest of the world) would be to oust Elon, and all his family from any decision making in the company. It will not happen so my respect for them is gone!
Maybe they should include free Nazi salute lessons with each purchase and a bottle of Kentucky bourbon to get all the backwater inbred hicks on board to help spur sales of the swastitruck?
Leon Skum is doing his best
Have they tried making a good car?
In the words of a wise yellow character HA HA
Hopefully his investors finally learn their fkn lesson and stop giving him money so he can be an ass
Investors learn lesson? That's unpossible!
This news makes me smile.
I got a chubby
You win lol
Are there brake problems again?
Looking at the 2024 sales numbers of the lighting and R1T, the Cybertruck is selling well comparatively.
That said, I can’t imagine that the look of the truck, and the actions of Tesla’s CEO, are helping sales in anyway.
As others pointed out, the reason it did well were the 10s of thousands of preorders from years ago.
“Preorders” were a fully refundable $100. The overwhelming majority of preorders canceled.
Look out, maybe you can soon dig up your own Cybertruck at a Texas quarry...
Good.
Strange I see them everywhere
Cybercuck.
It just needs a good putsch.
Hate for his employees to suffer for his shitty actions but there it is
Elon should offer to pay the tariff for new customers.
I wonder how Tesla sales in Israel are going?
EV trucks will never make sense. Hybrids can but I have yet to see anything I would buy.
Pepsi is using EV semis going cross county. Never say never
I think they do/will make a lot of sense. Being able to drive to a job site and run your welder or other tools from the truck's battery seems like a game changer for certain applications. The Chevy Silverado EV and the F-150 Lightning seem pretty nice to me. They'll both be much more appealing once battery tech, charging speed, and charging infrastructure improve. I'm pretty stoked about this new company called Telo, I hope they make it. It's a pretty small truck with an 8' bed that's about as long as a Mini Cooper, plus it has the solar tech from Aptera.
Edit: and I imagine the Rivian R2T and R3T will be pretty sweet.
I think a generator for that purpose would likely make a lot more sense. I can't see buying an electric truck just so you can use its battery to weld. Maybe that's a nice to have at best.
Yeah, a generator would be a great option for most people, I imagine.
The Silverado EV and F150 lightning seem pretty decent from the specs, but towing anything they still seriously suck. But for most people they're actually already pretty good... Unlike the cyber truck.
I've been following Edison Motors. EV and Hybrid both make sense and can work depending on the application. They managed some real work tests towing log trailers without the genset kicking on.
Personally, I would have a model line with the option to either have an all EV or hybrid drivetrain. Share parts from the battery to the wheel, but more batteries where the engine/generator would go if it's the pure EV option.
The Ford Maverick hybrid looks quite excellent
You hit the nail on the head. If it can't tow it's pretty useless as a truck. If someone doesnt tow they probably dont need a truck in the first place otherwise they are better off with a gas model. The unfortunate thing is that regulations have forced manufacturers to implement shitty ICE drivetrains. Everything is a turbo now which is "more efficient" but there is no way they will last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 or V8s that would go for 400-500k miles.
uh, it's pretty common for turboed diesels to go over 500k miles. It's been standard since the late 90's.
If that's the case that's great. Not familiar with turbo diesels. I know that the turbo failure rate is non-trivial for regular gas vehicles and the repairs can be expensive.
Even most work trucks aren't towing very often. Even on job sites, most of the towed equipment is either brought in the first day and stays there (though with minor relocations) or it's brought in by the rental company, with their own vehicles.
The average use case for the majority of truck owners in the US does not involve towing. Light trucks are driven an average of around 30 miles per day, which is why I say for most people they're actually in a pretty good position, other than being pretty expensive vehicles of course. If you own a caravan or something and are doing regular massive road trips, you are the minority that these vehicles still don't cater to.
Most people dont need more than a ford maverick which isnt even a truck. However as a hybrid vehicle it is pretty good value even if the longevity is yet to be determined.
If you actually value low end torque over everything else, electric is a gimme.
Sounds like that's not your use case.
Electic motors are unmatched for torque and response time. No debate there but if you need to tow a big ass camper your range is going to suck if you dont have some hybrid config.
Yup, not your use case.