Spyke
lemmy.world

Nope, I haven't seen a single news article about it. Guess our propaganda machine is better than we thought it was.

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Seems like it hasn't been this bad since when Bush launched Iraq war 2... basically every major city in the US and Europe had huge protests, and it got almost exactly 0 coverage outside of local news covering your local city.

Now all the local news in the US are just Sinclair subsidiaries/franchises.

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jasonreply
discuss.online

I don't think it's the propaganda machine (or maybe this is), but in the US, almost nothing is reported from other countries. If 100,000 people died in some wild natural disaster outside the US, we would get almost no real details, but we would get the full life story of the one American that was killed who was from New Jersey. It's just the way our media is. No real information. Just dumb sap stories.

It's the same reason the Republicans haven't been able to identify when they're ingesting blatant Russian propaganda. They've never seen or heard it before outside of their favorite American talking head.

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Meanwhile in the rest of the world the news was flooded with information surrounding Trump. It’s a weird time we live in.

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Carnelianreply
lemmy.world

Yes?

Do we have some reason to believe that information about these protests (from three days ago, which we are currently discussing and looking at photos of) is being suppressed on lemmy? Or was being suppressed? Would that be evident in checking the mod logs?

Edit: even OP just said in another comment that they “saw an article about it” after all. I guess I just don’t understand the framing of the question

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

The opposite. I think Lemmy is so open that the fact that none of these protests made it onto my feed tells me it wasn’t big enough news. Maybe news sites weren’t suppressing it, it just wasn’t bigger news than what was showing up.

Honestly, Musk’s Nazi salute kind of overshadowed every other news story coming out that day.

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Signtistreply
lemm.ee

Honestly, Musk’s Nazi salute kind of overshadowed every other news story coming out that day.

Then it did it's job.

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Yeah that is concerning honestly. Three days wasted on nothing but arguing whether or not he is a nazi. Reddit banning twitter links is bigger news than the ICE raid

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You didn’t see that on Inauguration Day. Unless you were browsing c/news specifically and saw that post swim a few days prior.

Even if you did, it likely didn’t get enough upvotes to appear for the masses to see.

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lemmy.ca

Saving this one for the next time I'm hit with the "the whole world thinks we're a joke with [democrat] in charge. This is why Trump is great. The world respects us with him leading."

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fedia.io

I'll be honest: The world thinks y'all are a joke no matter who's in charge, though Trump is a worse joke.

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Chefdano3reply
lemm.ee

When Clinton was president, we were a sex joke. When Bush jr. was president, we were a funny joke. When Obama was president, we were a meme. When Trump was president, we were a sad joke. When Biden was president we were a dad joke. With trump president again, we're now a sick joke.

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With trump president again, we’re now a sick joke.

Sure seems like we're heading towards literal gallows humor. (Whose gallows remains an open question.)

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lemmy.world

We liked Obama, what's he up to now? Think you could convince him to grey his hair a little more due to actually taking the job seriously?

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lemmy.world

Unfortunately he respects the rules to much to run for a third term

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lemmy.world

It's ok, trump is fixing that rule, so Obama can come back even following the rules. But even if not, I bet there is probably at least 1 more person that would be a good president, we haven't seen much evidence of that... but they must exist.

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Trump is changing the rules so that only he can run again

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lemmy.world

Drones were gonna happen at that point in time, no matter who the president was. It's not like US was the only ones using them.

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fedia.io

The drones are part of it, but more broadly remember he ran on ending the Iraq war and shutting down Guantanamo bay and yet he did neither.

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That is a fact, and many don't like to remember it. Obama was better than some presidents obviously but he was a disappointment to every anti-war voter.

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Ah that's fair. Listening to him talk was one of the best parts. Don't always get to have a smart person in the white house.

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Good thing I wasn't the one claiming the "whole world" believes anything.

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pawb.social

Grab stuff from the internet archive, copies of shows, movies, and music. Anytime you catch yourself streaming something, download it instead.

Like something? Save it. You can always delete it later to free up space but there's no guarantee you'll get the chance to download it again.

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You can always delete it later to free up space

You underestimate my laziness. I'll just rsync to a bigger and bigger drive each time.

For example, my phone's SD card currently stores some 12,754 files totalling 244.5GB. I really want a 1TB card. Storage is magic. The files always adjust to the media size.

I just always rsync everything over to a new card. And also copy the partition UUID because I don't remember which apps use it, plus I likely have a bunch of symlinks in Termux that would break. Oh, yes, Termux I copy over in the same manner of course.
I mean, I probably pointed them to ~/storage/card symlink, but I am not sure.

I did have to delete a bunch of stuff already though, DVD ISO files and baseband satellite signal recordings to replace them with Wikipedia and other zim files.
Preferably, I'd have all files on every device. That's the dream.

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We're emulating that with a home server and a VPN to reach it when we're out of the house. Though, thanks to the magic of storage, it's been at 90% for a while..

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kbin.melroy.org

Wikipedia's a good one. They might start fucking with that. I'd learn to use Tor as well if you're not familiar with it, just in case it's needed.

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lemmy.world

Scary part is that the protests within America were not covered, or were barely mentioned.

The 20th was Trump's inauguration + MLK, so a LOT of people marched across the US. That said, most of the coverage is from small local papers and broadcasters. The big new orgs shied away.

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Every time someone posts the latest daily poll that shows change is impossible and what they're predicting is inevitable, I need to remember that quote.

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Scary part is that the protests within America were not covered, or were barely mentioned.

You can NOT rely on the media to cover the important stuff, or to tell you what is important. This is because (1) the billion owned media wants you do be apathetic so they can get gigantic GOP tax cuts for the rich, and (2) the average journalist does not have any special skill set in letting them know what is important, and (3) journalists and editors are lazy and only cover what other outlets are covering.

You have to work extra hard to understand reality, and things like Lemmy help with that.

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lemmy.world

Wow, thanks for the support everyone. We’ll try to hold out for the next four years

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The last photo behind the "A Better World is Possible Sign" is worth a mention:

"You can only get what you are Organized to Take".

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lemmy.world

Because protests accomplish absolutely nothing in America without violence. The billionaires are nice and comfy in their ivory towers, they have no concern for the peasants on the streets. If they are comfortable then nothing changes.

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And if the prospective protestors are comfortable, they'll stop short of their goals. Perhaps very short, if they start at all.

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pingvenoreply
lemmy.world

The violent protests didn't do shit either, they just pissed off the rest of the citizenship. When protests turn to violence, all too often it's against the businesses that the peasants frequent.

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Also true, those are the wrong targets. There's a much more pragmatic approach.

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lemmy.world

Just wait for the German Fasching (Carnival) parades, we will bring back the floats depicting Don taking it up the ass from Vlad.

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They've got their work cut out for them this year! Now that the US government has gone full fucking Nazi I'm expecting some well-deserved brutally scathing criticism.

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The majority of our media outlets are not covering any dissent about Trump. All major social media companies are censoring negative information about Trump. This is purposeful and blatant. The media is most definitely helping this administration to manufacture consent.

This is nothing new though as the media has helped project bizarre concepts like the US is the defender of democracy for decades. In fact, the US has done more to stop Democracy than any other country.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/understanding-democratic-decline-in-the-united-states/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/18/american-democracy-political-system-failures/

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202112/1240435.shtml

Not only is US democracy in decline because of concerted efforts to undermine it by the wealthy, but this is also projected around the world with the US attacking and destroying foreign democracies.

So it is a cover up and it has been going on a long time. The US is not the country it portrays itself to be and that takes a universal effort in our media to help project.

Is this newsworthy is not the question. Who determines what is newsworthy is the question.

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lemmy.world

Florida man reporting... I heard nothing of this from my usual news outlets, apnews, CNN, NPR.....zero

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  • nope
  • but also, I did my best to sleep through the inauguration out of spite, and also as political commentary on how the Democratic party’s strategic leadership slept through the entire fucking election cycle, because the only other explanation is that they were playing to loose
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The Guardian, Common Dreams, Jacobin, Salon, The New Yorker, Mendoweis, The Intercept, Pro Publica, CBC, Der Spiegel, Politico, etc

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This is the first time I heard that anything like that happened. And I do not live in America.

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I heard about the effigy in Italy, but that’s about it

Am I missing something? Is there text to this article? I only see a handful of captioned pictures, and nearly half of those are from the US.

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Which is totally fair. But at the same time i never even saw these pictures. For me it's just the fact that either nobody was reporting on it or it got drowned out by all the noise. Basically it was censored or the distractions are working.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

How do people even hear about protests in order to participate? I really hope it's not Facebook.

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I saw signs around Portland for a January 21 protest. From what I've heard, it was a lot smaller than what Portland saw in 2017. It's hard to read the tea leaves on why that is.

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lemmy.world

Panama, Mexico, London and Belgium are hardly "THE WORLD 🌎 ™️"

I'm in Argentina and no one here was protesting about or against Trump.

Nothing in Venezuela either

Weird not to see Canada jumping on that action

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Why would Venezuelans protest the interim president of the United States, Juan Guaidó?

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The only thing I saw was a youtube video with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog from The Daily Show at an anti-Trump rally on the 20th.

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lemmy.world

I wouldn't call it "hidden". It was there. It just got kinda completely overshadowed by the 37,017 articles talking about Elon and his "salute".

If you guys hadn't been circle jerking so hard about that you would have seen the other things going on in the news that day. Unfortunately modern news runs on clicks and y'all were clicking on every single article that had the same softball takes on the same event.

Nobody to blame for that one but yourselves really.

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Majorllamareply
lemmy.world

Is that the new hot term fresh off the presses? Hadn't heard that term once in my life and since the Elon thing I've seen it like 12 times.

I know what it means but I find it really funny how you guys keep coming up for new ways of explaining that you're easily distracted by stupid shit while they continue to collect wealth and power.

If the masses are busy bickering amongst themselves they will never realize that it's actually a class issue and not a race or gender issue. They just stoke the fire every few weeks and they let you lot do the rest of the work for them.

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Majorllamareply
lemmy.world

Oh it's fuckin Steve Bannon. Well... Broken clock n all that.

It clearly works very well. Now we just need to get everyone on the same page about not falling for it every time aaaaaaand they fell for it again immediately.

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I think we need to get people on board to realize that this is the equivalent of Bush's "Shock and Awe" campaign in Iraq.

They're using the same Shock Doctrine used in the Iraq War and it's the final tool they've brought home to use on the American citizens.

Currently both the media and populace play right into it's hands, yes.

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That makes sense. I saw one article, but as soon as the salute came out literally everything was about that.

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It was on CBS six days ago on Jan 18th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE2F7n9OVU

It mostly focuses on the US women's march, but it does make brief mention of ongoing worldwide protests, without really discussing them. The Chyron focuses its message on the "worldwide" aspect of it through the whole story, however.

EDIT:

Here it is on CNN on January 21st:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/trump-women-march-on-washington/index.html

The Women’s March extended beyond the United States, as similar protests cropped up around the world over women’s rights and other issues the marchers fear could be under threat from Donald Trump’s presidency.

Although the focus of the day was the Women’s March on Washington, many people attended the hundreds of “sister marches” that occurred around the US and the globe.

People are checked out my dudes. Women's march was expecting 50k and 5k showed, I think people are broken and losing hope.

Which is fair, these media organizations failed us miserably and continue to fail us miserably for not being able to call a Nazi salute a Nazi salute, which calls into question what little is left of their credibility. So yeah people are checked out while this is happening and being covered.

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Large American media outlets have been failing the people for the entirety of their existence.

They have been successfully serving the interests of the wealthy and powerful.

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lemmy.sdf.org

Sent this to my mother, who probably thinks I’m full of hyperbole when I talk about how we’re seen around the world.

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some_guyreply
lemmy.sdf.org

I'm sorry, do you normally see people protesting leadership in other countries when they get elected? Perhaps I didn't notice that Americans were out in droves protesting the election of Kier Starmer. /s

Starmer is a shitbag, btw. I'm not trying to support him with the above comment.

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lemmy.world

Yes? Lots of people marching together, worldwide protested Nicolas Maduro, venezuelan dictator, after stealing the elections and declaring himself the winner

After Obama and Biden got elected, they also got protests in all south America and Russia if I remember correctly

After the Iranian elections, there were massive protests worldwide as well.

After da Silva and Bolsonaro got elected in Brazil, they also got worldwide protests.

Same with Bukele in el Salvador, same with Milei in Argentina. Same with Netanyahu and Palestine.

Maybe there is people living abroad who are still citizens and care about the country? Or people who just don't plain agree. But there are.

It's not something new, certainly not abnormal , obviously not all countries protesting, but it happens. Still, it's not like the whole planet is protesting against them. People have shit to do

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Havent heard about this either. But I live in Switzerland, so I'am quite confident the newssites and agencies were occupied with covering all the shit that went down during inauguartion and the few days before and after it. Plus our Europe and National and Regional news. So I am not really surprised to missing it.

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mlg
lemmy.world

Most of these pictures are from NYC and DC, bar a few from London, Brussels, Panama, and the US Embassy in Mexico

I'm starting to think is community is actually a bunch of refugees from Twitter.

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lemmy.world

This was not hidden here in the pnw. There was a protest that walked by my house. Joined in for a bit

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Yah, sorry. everyoneontheinternerisamerican :tm:

Here in the states we have a region called the PNW it's basically Washington (state not DC) and Oregon

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Yeah, I participated in the one that was a few days before the inauguration. Heard about it from the front page of the New York Times. I'm pretty sure I heard about the other 700 marches planned for inauguration day here on Lemmy since this is the only social media site I use.

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I heard NPR gloss over it, just mentioning that the number a protesters seem to have been less than the last time.

It didn't really give any estimate as to the number of people where they were at what their issues were. They didn't interview any of them, they gave it like maybe 5 to 10 seconds.

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I knew it was happening but not a word about it beyond that reached my ears (blue state, USA). Was straight up bullshit

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I did see an article about the big blimp making a comeback in UK, not sure when that was though. Around a week ago I think. Ironically it felt like it was trying hard not to say protest.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

BBC Mentioned the one in Washington but it was just as an add on when explaining that it was too cold for trump to have it outside. Doesn't really matter how big the protests were in America as they literally voted for it.

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lemm.ee

It's a defense mechanism. They know what's been going on. You're being ignorant blaming people for hating the situation.

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takedareply
lemm.ee

Sadly we should be vigilant, and the majority of news that is being broadcasted is a distraction, they actual evil shit they do is done quietly.

For example majority of EO he signed are from project 2025, schedule F was signed, he renamed one department to DOGE, and mandated 4 "DOGE" people to be part of every US agency. The whole DOGE thing doesn't look like it was about efficiency, but about having tight control over other departments.

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lemm.ee

the majority of news that is being broadcasted is a distraction

Im gonna make fun of you not following every piece of news

Which lane is it?

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lemmy.world

This is a misrepresentation of what they're saying (setting aside that these are two different people who might believe different things). The original comment said they haven't paid attention to the news at all these last few weeks, not that they "haven't been following every piece of news". Categorically, not paying attention at all, paying attention to literally every piece of news, and trying to be vigilant and find the relevant news are three completely separate things, and you brought up one that nobody was doing or suggesting.

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lemm.ee

Your misreading what op meant, and you know it.
If you don't know it then you're just flat out wrong.

Don't need a wall of text to say that.

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It means don't bury your head in the sand just because reality sucks.

Just makes you look like a fuckin tool.

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I honestly wouldn't upvote if I did see it. Sure, the people participating might feel good about it and I'm glad they are there but the whole, march around and protest thing, feels like slipping a note into an unchecked suggestion box.

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Nope. The Great American Firewall on our wholly right wing owned major media ensured I didn’t hear a peep about this.

Thanks, world. Good to know you’re still out there.

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feddit.nl

So you're telling me you dont read any actual news, despite there being numerous great news orgs in the US...you intentionally only subscribe to the shitty corporate ones? Huh.

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The BBC mentioned it on inauguration day (UK) showed the protestors burning a flag and did a small interview with someone.

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I've not seen much about it in American "liberal media", but, to be fair, I've not consumed a lot of media in the past month or so.

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Oh yes, the lie about liberal media. I was very confused during AOTUS's last administration about all the talk in regards to liberal media. There is no mainstream far left outlet. There is not even a popular left leaning news outlet. They often cited CNN and that is a joke.

I don't consume American propaganda and I live in the states. The talking heads never talk about what is really going on, they omit the important details, and they non-stop bootlick corporations.

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I saw articles about it on both Reddit and Lemmy. But they were filled with toxic comments from doomers, fascists, or just other overly negative people so I suspect they were downvoted and this might be why people didn’t see them.

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I dont care if this is unpopular bc it's a commentary on how we fucking got here... Notice the amount of Gaza-support in the photos of US protests vs internationally. The useful idiots aren't even marching for their own country's oxygen mask in the protests about this country.

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lemmy.world

I've been through enough elections to know that they do this for every president. So it's not really news.

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valtiareply
lemmy.world

Really? You remember all those international anti-Obama and anti-Clinton protests on their respective Inaugural Day?

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lemmy.world

Yes. That's what I said. Obama was very unpopular innhis second term and many Europeans hated Clinton's free trade agreements.

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Wtf. Its amazing how many people on Lemmy didn't see this. If you missed it, you need to pay attention to the news.

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Actually working about the issues of the people and actually listening to them in the last 4 years instead of pandering to a minority niche within the in group would have helped like, a lot

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Furbagreply
lemmy.world

Whatever happened to "Trump is making the rest of the world respect America again!"?

Convenient time to suddenly start not caring about what other people think, right when people start telling you exactly how they feel about the felon king.

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Furbagreply
lemmy.world

Why would anybody respect you if you don't value their opinions? Honest question. Would you really want to be friends with someone like that?

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mander.xyz

I've never said trump is making the rest of the world respect America again. I don't think trump is a good person for America, but I sure as shit don't care what non-americans think

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What does them being a non-American have to do with anything?

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Ok, then what about censoring the american protests?

If you search for January 20th March, all of the google results are from small local papers. The big boys didn't pick it up, or if they did, they mentioned it and moved on.

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lemmy.world

You mean apart from the bigotry and hate?

Because there's also the "how dare you care about your child more than people you aren't personally responsible for!" thing.

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mander.xyz

There is no bigotry or hate, just a lack of empathy from the person I'm replying to. It sucks what's happening to their son, but what's happening in gaza is 10x worse by any metric.

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lemmy.world

No, a lack of empathy is telling someone they should care less about their own child's life being at risk, and who cares because they're trans, than people on the other side of the world.

That is about as unempathetic as you can get. And I'm amazed you don't realize it.

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mander.xyz

The premise that parent puts forward is that I should be OK with genocide as long as his kid is ok. That's unemphatic. By any metric of the situation, one issue is far more important and extreme than the other.

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They said nothing of the sort. That's just a lie.

And no, by any metric of the situation, a person's child is far more important than anything else in their life. Or should be. Because that child didn't ask to be born. They are owed everything.

And in this case, this child's life is in danger because of a genocide of trans people that is already well underway and that you apparently don't give a shit about. I guess there's only one genocide that matters.

And what exactly have you done about it other than berate people for caring more about their own children than they do the genocide in Palestine? Because I spend hours each week contacting politicians for JVP. Before I escaped on Monday with my own queer child (who you probably think I should also not care about), the staffers at Larry Buschon's regional office were sick of me going there twice a month.

Have you done anything other than sit on your ass and tell people not to care about their kids?

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Spazzreply
lemmynsfw.com

Trump's a piece of shit and you support him blindly, making you a worthless tool

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btaf45reply
lemmy.world

Non Americans think the same thing Americans do. That Traitorapist Trump is a narcisstic buffoon not worth your attention. That he is a notorious Liar who is going to lie 30000+ times in the next 4 years like his average last time. And that he is going to throw food on the wall at the White House an average of 1-2 times per week like his average last time.

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How TF do you read the headlines and double down on supporting that piece of shit?!?

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Average MAGAT: ohhh nooo, Biden makes us look so weak to the rest of the world

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