Since there is insufficient cell differentiation at conception to produce any reproductive cells, does that mean that according to the white house, all people are legally non-binary now?
Actually, he's the first agender president. Embryos don't produce any gametes at conception. The idea that embryos are all female is a myth spread by people who don't believe in nonbinary sex.
They believe that anyone can claim they're a woman now and that's it. And once it's done they can just walk into women's bathrooms. They're just telling on themselves, projecting on trans people. They're just sex obsessed freaks, all of them.
We just had a Nazi change her legal status to woman probably to fuck with the system and try to get into a women's prison. Now she will probably be send to a male prison and referred to as a woman.
I've said that if I was wealthy, I would force legislation that was trans friendly by (as a cis woman) going into women's bathrooms in Congress, standing on toilets, and staring at women.
Women's bathrooms don't have urinals! There's no reason for anyone to be afraid of anyone seeing anything in there, unless they stand on toilets, and Im fully of the opinion that the gender of the person doing that has nothing to do with how creepy it is!!
Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?
And I believe nothing can get that point across quite like demonstrating that I, as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets and staring at people.
as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets
I’m kind of worried about your safety now, since public restrooms don’t generally have toilet lids. Perhaps bring a stool to safely appear to be standing on the toilet.
Fuck you I'm a woman owned business now and also my DMV can't issue liscences designated male without proof of.... exogenesis? Parthogenisis? Some kind of nobel winning genesis?
ah shit. Bad wording. I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to come off that way, just upset and didn't mean to minimize. I can't do much, but I can be a pain in the ass at the DMV tomorrow and force a case. Not much blowback on someone like me.
I don't get to refuse anything. I'm just complying with an order, or my state is saying, on record, they refuse to comply. All I can do is say the facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.
I'm no biologist, but I'm pretty sure nobody produces gametes at conception. If you want to be pedantic, oocytes form before birth, but actual sperm and eggs don't show up till puberty (feel free to correct me).
Now, I would LOVE if we don't assign gender till puberty, but I still don't like the method.
i've always thought the egg cells were produced before birth and at puberty they just start being released
and i agree about not assigning gender until puberty. kids before puberty barely even show any sexual dimorphism anyway. though i have to say there would need to be A LOT of educating people about sex and gender before we get there
Chromosomes are almost never tested at birth, and so 99% of people walking around don’t actually know what chromosomes they have. Enforcing any law based on chromosomes for purposes like this would be nearly impossible.
the thing is that there is no good hard definition of sexes, the best you can do is just go "they fill the general role of male" but guess what! that includes trans people :))
This is either AI slop. Ignorant because they think babies are made by god and immediately have genitals. Deliberately as anti science as possible to muddy things further.
Yup. At conception, I'm prettybsure there's really fuck all going on - plus, how's it getting measured? Most people aren't that sure of their date of conception!
So then what? We look at the organs at birth? (Gender=sex)
they just need a time machine to travel back and test which gametes the single cell is producing. just wait until they discover it takes quite a bit until those are produced
unless they meant to say at birth, cause at conception it makes no sense. so what the heck happens to anyone who has both genitalia? what about people who can't produce gametes? they have no idea what they're doing lmao
I recommend everyone visit the DMV as soon as possible to change their license. It's an order from the commander in chief.
Now that I think of it: every DMV should be only be able to issue licenses with a female designation. Facts and law suites don't care about your feelings, snow flakes.
But at conception aren’t all fetuses female? Isn’t it a few weeks in or more that some become male? That’s at least partly why females have clitorises and males have nipples…
Maybe I'm blazed off my rocker, but isn't that an approximate definition you'd get from a biology prof. if they're in a hurry? I swear I heard something like that in one genetics class many moons ago. (I know the actual quote is probably wrong, but the rest is meh ok yeah sure.)
The problem with this definition is that sex differentiation is determined by many genes, and the genetic makeup at conception is not always indicative of what primary and secondary sexual characteristics will develop. This is purely with regards to biological sex, and we're not even talking about a person's gender here.
Since there is insufficient cell differentiation at conception to produce any reproductive cells, does that mean that according to the white house, all people are legally non-binary now?
Female gametes are expressed first, so we've all been forced to be women
Are they expressed AT CONCEPTION?
This is what is expressed during conception.
Who would have thought that Trump would be the first female president of the United States
Actually, he's the first agender president. Embryos don't produce any gametes at conception. The idea that embryos are all female is a myth spread by people who don't believe in nonbinary sex.
They would be the better pronoun in this instance then.
I'm struggling to understand what you mean here, are you talking about intersex?
Poggers
We did it, we broke the glass ceiling.
YOU KNOW WHO I WORRY ABOUT COMING INTO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, CONSERVATIVES?
CIS MEN.
I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD A TRANS WOMAN MAKE ME FEEL UNSAFE IN THERE. BUT I HAVE HAD CIS MEN FOLLOW ME IN AND ATTEMPT ASSAULT.
MEN DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE CONVOLUTED STEPS OF TRANSITIONING TO GAIN ACCESS TO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
MAYBE ADDRESS THAT FIRST? NO???
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
They believe that anyone can claim they're a woman now and that's it. And once it's done they can just walk into women's bathrooms. They're just telling on themselves, projecting on trans people. They're just sex obsessed freaks, all of them.
I know. I was raised in a fundie church. I did not escape unscathed. They're fucked up perverts.
I grew up in a fundie church as well. No one escapes unscathed. Glad you got out. I hope you're able to heal. Fuck Bill Gothard!
We just had a Nazi change her legal status to woman probably to fuck with the system and try to get into a women's prison. Now she will probably be send to a male prison and referred to as a woman.
I've said that if I was wealthy, I would force legislation that was trans friendly by (as a cis woman) going into women's bathrooms in Congress, standing on toilets, and staring at women.
Women's bathrooms don't have urinals! There's no reason for anyone to be afraid of anyone seeing anything in there, unless they stand on toilets, and Im fully of the opinion that the gender of the person doing that has nothing to do with how creepy it is!!
Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?
And I believe nothing can get that point across quite like demonstrating that I, as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets and staring at people.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
They made a bathroom at my university that’s gender neutral with stalls that are fully ceiling to floor with no gaps in the door.
And this is how it should be everywhere!
Kansas City airport also has this!
I’m kind of worried about your safety now, since public restrooms don’t generally have toilet lids. Perhaps bring a stool to safely appear to be standing on the toilet.
wait ... so if I just walk through the door I'm suddenly in the women's bathroom? no force field?
So we’re all female. Neat!
I wish at least I was female
I've always wondered what it's like.
Turns out, (according to the US government) I was experiencing it all along.
Alright, I'll keep my promise. All the homies can hit it.
I’ve been using the wrong bathrooms all this time. I need to start walking into women’s bathrooms, saying “it’s ok, Trump defined me as female”.
No, embryos don't produce eggs.
Not with that attitude they don’t! 🙃
“You know what we mean!”
So we’re back to gender being a social construct then.
"Male" and "female" aren't genders though, lol
Embryos can't produce gametes. Everyone is agender now.
wouldnt it be intersex since it's talking about sex and not gender?
What about people who produce neither?
They usually handwave and claim "they don't count" because they can't reproduce, assuming that somehow means they can be ignored.
i don't think embryos produce any reproductive cells right away so that handwave would have to cover... everyone
I especially like definitions that don't even take menopause into account
It's like "sorry, but you're only a real female post puberty and pre menopause" like old grannies aren't women 💀
It’s the gamete crowd, but adapted for the crowd that can’t spell “gamete”.
Republicans showing once again their cognitive prowess.
when the fascists accidentally forcefem all of america:
*neuter
Embryos don't produce gametes of any type.
Shush I want my forcefem
Alright then, take your pills, Alice.
Let me have this damn
Maybe I'm a late bloomer but I started producing reproduce cells long after conception
Maybe you didn't have a gender until you started producing them? Which bathroom did you use?
and were they in the women's or men's section of the olympics?
I usually use the toilet...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/
Why would you think that? These lines were written by fascists to appeal to morons. Proper wording only matters for those of us that live in reality.
You’re giving them more credit than they’ve shown.
Fuck you I'm a woman owned business now and also my DMV can't issue liscences designated male without proof of.... exogenesis? Parthogenisis? Some kind of nobel winning genesis?
ah shit. Bad wording. I'm sorry I didn't mean for it to come off that way, just upset and didn't mean to minimize. I can't do much, but I can be a pain in the ass at the DMV tomorrow and force a case. Not much blowback on someone like me.
thanks. sorry. I am upset an amount beyond the right I have, but also have the responsibility, to be.
Good news for you: embros don't produce gametes at all. Everyone is now legally agender. You can refuse to issue female licences too.
I don't get to refuse anything. I'm just complying with an order, or my state is saying, on record, they refuse to comply. All I can do is say the facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.
I'm no biologist, but I'm pretty sure nobody produces gametes at conception. If you want to be pedantic, oocytes form before birth, but actual sperm and eggs don't show up till puberty (feel free to correct me).
Now, I would LOVE if we don't assign gender till puberty, but I still don't like the method.
i've always thought the egg cells were produced before birth and at puberty they just start being released
and i agree about not assigning gender until puberty. kids before puberty barely even show any sexual dimorphism anyway. though i have to say there would need to be A LOT of educating people about sex and gender before we get there
Chromosomes are almost never tested at birth, and so 99% of people walking around don’t actually know what chromosomes they have. Enforcing any law based on chromosomes for purposes like this would be nearly impossible.
the thing is that there is no good hard definition of sexes, the best you can do is just go "they fill the general role of male" but guess what! that includes trans people :))
Except for the people who have XXY and rarer combos
For fucks sake.
For fucks sake.
This is either AI slop. Ignorant because they think babies are made by god and immediately have genitals. Deliberately as anti science as possible to muddy things further.
Probably all 3.
Yup. At conception, I'm prettybsure there's really fuck all going on - plus, how's it getting measured? Most people aren't that sure of their date of conception!
So then what? We look at the organs at birth? (Gender=sex)
they just need a time machine to travel back and test which gametes the single cell is producing. just wait until they discover it takes quite a bit until those are produced
unless they meant to say at birth, cause at conception it makes no sense. so what the heck happens to anyone who has both genitalia? what about people who can't produce gametes? they have no idea what they're doing lmao
also what were those definitions before?
Yes, it's a fuster of clucks, for sure.
Now this would be fine if it was just a headline or something, but these dipshits made it legislation!
Thank god I live far, far away...
Gotta gender the unborn too. Maybe it ties into abortion debates somehow.
I recommend everyone visit the DMV as soon as possible to change their license. It's an order from the commander in chief.
Now that I think of it: every DMV should be only be able to issue licenses with a female designation. Facts and law suites don't care about your feelings, snow flakes.
Why didn't they say egg and sperm lol
These people are on a hilariously dumb level of evil. They can't be for real with this.
The culture war is refuelled, so we can be distracted from the grand scale theft by the oligarchs.
But at conception aren’t all fetuses female? Isn’t it a few weeks in or more that some become male? That’s at least partly why females have clitorises and males have nipples…
Fetuses don't exist yet at conception. We're all officially enbies now.
Oh yeah you’re right
But later produces the small cell.
Since they insist on things not changing, they should redefine age as the number of years you had been alive for right after birth
Everyone would be protected from any criminal charges because of their age
Wait, i forgot i wasnt talking about a civilized country with reasonable laws
Maybe I'm blazed off my rocker, but isn't that an approximate definition you'd get from a biology prof. if they're in a hurry? I swear I heard something like that in one genetics class many moons ago. (I know the actual quote is probably wrong, but the rest is meh ok yeah sure.)
The problem with this definition is that sex differentiation is determined by many genes, and the genetic makeup at conception is not always indicative of what primary and secondary sexual characteristics will develop. This is purely with regards to biological sex, and we're not even talking about a person's gender here.