yeah I don't even joke about hurting my knees.
People will laugh when someone gets kicked in the balls, but seeing someone fall onto their knees is all pain and no schadenfreude.
Ah yes I got this. Bro over here in the kitchen checks notes cooking! Wait no, he's cooked? Cooked what? And who's going to do the dishes? People have no respect these days, back when I was a kid you wouldn...................
There was a joke about it in 30 Rock, where a teenager tells Liz her boyfriend is "totally washed" and she's like, "typical", while secretly looking up the word on the in-show equivalent of Urban Dictionary.
We don't need to. But we do it anyway for ease of language flow. See: Every single contraction, some of which don't even reduce syllables. Just contacted to make the tongue say it faster.
just wait until you hear about people saying “comp sci” or worse, “poli sci”. if you are so pressed for time that you can’t afford to say all the syllables in “computer science” you can use an acronym. i will still be upset about the acronym, but i can live with it
Those examples are abbreviations, not acronyms. Acronyms use initial letters (though people have gotten lazy with that to get nice sounding acronyms), whereas abbreviations are a category containing shortened words and also acronyms.
I would also like to note that the 'poli' in 'poli sci' is way too close to the prefix 'poly' to not cause confusion. This is just one example of an abbreviation causing confusion among those not yet aware of the meaning. That's why when addressing a general audience I avoid them or in longer conversations introduce them first.
my point is that people should use acronyms instead of those abbreviations. e.g., “CS” instead of “comp sci”. i hate those abbreviations. and you’re right that the “poli” does cause confusion. it always takes me a second to figure out what people mean when they say it. i think we’re on the same side here.
I saw him a few times, but his last tour with Elton was my favorite. One set of Billy playing Elton songs, one of Elton playing Billy songs, with the last set duets. Great show. Wish I caught one with Stevie Nicks!
I saw one of the shows from that tour too except Billy Joel was like just absolutely wasted drunk and kept falling off his piano stool and couldn't remember the lyrics. He even tossed the bench of the stage at one point and a stage hand had to run out another chair for him.
He kept playing the piano the whole time basically perfectly though which was absolutely wild.
Funny you should say that. Near the end of WSB's 1953 novel "Junkie", IIRC, the main protagonist complains that he doesn't understand the slang of the new generation anymore. For example their use of "that stinks!"
We listened to 20+ year old music when I was in High School. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Marley, Grateful Dead, and plenty of others along with current music of the time.
Judgy people are the ones throwing you in the washed up area.
Nickelback had a banger or two, the problem is they rehashed that one banger into the ground. Releasing the same sone over and over again with slightly different lyrics.
That's what started the hate. If you find one of those early songs without context...
Nickelback are a great band that played top 40 acceptable rock by choice. They CAN thrash, they choose not to, and they are fucking loaded as a consequence.
Ive sat in dive bars and talked to a great many musicians about their artistic integrity. Ive never met anyone with real talent who had a tale of woe about selling out, probably because they dont drink in dive bars anymore.
I can't stand that song. I heard it one too many times as a teen and it was only ever ok for me at best. I know that's gonna rustle some jimmies, but I gotta make a stand.
This is a tale as old as time: "perfectly good song gets overplayed and, so, ruined". I can't fault you for your circumstances growing up; nobody can. Some of us get exposed to a song like this at a wonderful time, in a wonderful place, and it becomes something we love.
I hope there's other songs that you love as much as some of us love this one.
My youngest kid was playing Billy Joel (Vienna waits) the other day, they aren't even out of high school yet. Also loves Boz Scaggs. I think we've come full circle at this point. They also take music recommendations from me as easily as they give them, there is not even a hint of resistance, just "thank you for turning me on to that group they are so good" whether new or old, if they like it they like it, if they don't, they say so. I was NOT like that with my mom when I was a kid, though I did send her albums I thought she'd like as an adult.
I'm middle aged, so adults were listening to classic rock from the 60's and early 70's when I was a kid, which I absolutely loved, and still love. My kid listened to the same music as a kid and loved and still loves it. I can't imagine not appreciating great music just because it's from an earlier time period. That would be destructively closed-minded.
My mom (now deceased) was literally one of the kids who stayed up late to hear "black music" on the radio and ran away from home to see Elvis, I wish I'd been able to record an interview with her before she got dementia. She wasn't at all judgy (and I wouldn't have had to run away to any show) just her taste ran to country and I listened to new wave and went to punk and hardcore punk shows there wasn't a lot of overlap. As it was between her and her parents, so she thought it normal. The kids who listened to classic rock in my high school were the kids who wanted to beat me up, real conformist bullies so it took me awhile to come around to that, though I did go to Rush concerts with my brothers anytime they came around.
I'm not really a respecter of genre or age now, as you say, if it's good it's good. I love a lot of the new music coming out and some stuff from before I was born, plenty in between.
Extra egregious depending on your background. We caught my older brother singing along to piano man. We are Latinos with like -50% Irish blood.
We had to give him an intervention.
Some artists transcend their eras, like Bowie or The Beatles.
Most bands remain in a straitjacket of their times.
From the 70s-80s, Billy Joel is a fair-sized-not-huge "no" for me. So is Rod Stewart, and more or less for the same reasons.
Then some things feel utterly impenetrable and were ripe for parody even in their times, like Emerson Lake & Palmer.
Thin Lizzy, however... there are always some true-blue jewels hidden in the seas of music from their times.
Roxy Music! Roxy NEVER gets old, there's still a freshness to their music, unaffected by nostalgia, even decades later, after countless of listens, they still sound like "now" to me.
I chuckled when hughie from the boys was a huge boy Joel fan, but when they put his actual music into season 3 I lost my shit. Pressure is my favorite and it was used beautifully. Kripke rocks.
No, you're seeing it from this side of it, so it'll appear correctly. Think about if you had X-ray vision and could see through a stamp; viewed through the stamp, it would look like it was the right way around.
Washed? Is this some hip new slang term?
I feel liked not knowing this one makes me, well, washed...
GET ON THE FLOOR! NOW!
Are you sure? With my knees, you'll need to help me up again.
yeah I don't even joke about hurting my knees.
People will laugh when someone gets kicked in the balls, but seeing someone fall onto their knees is all pain and no schadenfreude.
Free your mind and your ass will follow
Only like 20-30 more years before I can unironically quote this irl.
You can be old at any age depending on who you're talking to lol.
Don't worry it'll fly by in no time
Yeah I just said that unironically yester . . the other . . . damn
New to me too. Washed sling meaning Washed up or past your prime. We old.
As an old head, I’m pretty confident that “washed up” was used long before 2020.
About a century before, Merriam-Webster cites the first recorded use in 1928.
All the new slang is just abbreviation, e.g. based, riz.
What's based? Sorry I'm washed.
Ah yes I got this. Bro over here in the kitchen checks notes cooking! Wait no, he's cooked? Cooked what? And who's going to do the dishes? People have no respect these days, back when I was a kid you wouldn...................
Based in reality, I think.
And if anyone is wondering, riz is charisma.
Based actually comes from freebased. Which is what you do to cocaine to make it crack.
Based used to mean something cringe worthy until the rapper Lil B started using it in a positive context.
Now it's sort of the opposite of cringe.
Everything has to be shorter, because gnat-like attention spans.
tl;dr
We used to use spent when we were too lazy to say washed up. Or fucked.
But you can’t use 4 letter words or your social media will get de-emphasized and your referral traffic will be
washedfucked.Washed up has been in use for a long time. I have no idea how they decided it was a 2020 invention. Some AI search probably told them so.
they're off by a full century
There was a joke about it in 30 Rock, where a teenager tells Liz her boyfriend is "totally washed" and she's like, "typical", while secretly looking up the word on the in-show equivalent of Urban Dictionary.
Sounds like she was streets behind.
oh dip! molotov cocktail
This sounds like brainwashed. I'm not saying that's what they meant, but the context you provided makes it sound like that.
It’s like “washed up”
not really, it's short for washed-up, which has been in use for at least a century
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/washed-up
Why do we need to shorten a two syllable word?
My knees hurt.
We don't need to. But we do it anyway for ease of language flow. See: Every single contraction, some of which don't even reduce syllables. Just contacted to make the tongue say it faster.
just wait until you hear about people saying “comp sci” or worse, “poli sci”. if you are so pressed for time that you can’t afford to say all the syllables in “computer science” you can use an acronym. i will still be upset about the acronym, but i can live with it
I'm so old I remember a time when sci-fi fans were offended by the term "sci-fi", preferring "SF".
I remember a huge rumbling when the Sci-fi channel changed its name to SyFy. Neither word even has Y's!!
I'm gonna go sit on the bench with the other's while I rub my knees.
No matter how many times I see “SyFy”, my brain always thinks “sih-fee”.
Those examples are abbreviations, not acronyms. Acronyms use initial letters (though people have gotten lazy with that to get nice sounding acronyms), whereas abbreviations are a category containing shortened words and also acronyms.
I would also like to note that the 'poli' in 'poli sci' is way too close to the prefix 'poly' to not cause confusion. This is just one example of an abbreviation causing confusion among those not yet aware of the meaning. That's why when addressing a general audience I avoid them or in longer conversations introduce them first.
my point is that people should use acronyms instead of those abbreviations. e.g., “CS” instead of “comp sci”. i hate those abbreviations. and you’re right that the “poli” does cause confusion. it always takes me a second to figure out what people mean when they say it. i think we’re on the same side here.
Since we're down the pedantry rabbit hole, "CS" is an initialism, not an acronym.
i can’t believe that i didn’t even know the difference until now. i hope i don’t lose my pedant card because of this
Washed up maybe?
Nah. Billy Joel (with Stevie Nicks) put on one of the best concerts I've ever seen.
I saw him a few times, but his last tour with Elton was my favorite. One set of Billy playing Elton songs, one of Elton playing Billy songs, with the last set duets. Great show. Wish I caught one with Stevie Nicks!
I saw one of the shows from that tour too except Billy Joel was like just absolutely wasted drunk and kept falling off his piano stool and couldn't remember the lyrics. He even tossed the bench of the stage at one point and a stage hand had to run out another chair for him.
He kept playing the piano the whole time basically perfectly though which was absolutely wild.
I saw that tour with Billy Joel and Elton John, too. To date, still one of the best concerts I've been to. Face to Face. Wish they'd done a DVD of it!
I do believe that everything old was better, everything new stinks, and my feet hurt all the time.
Funny you should say that. Near the end of WSB's 1953 novel "Junkie", IIRC, the main protagonist complains that he doesn't understand the slang of the new generation anymore. For example their use of "that stinks!"
You mean “Junky” from William S. Burroughs?
Good music is just good music.
We listened to 20+ year old music when I was in High School. Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Marley, Grateful Dead, and plenty of others along with current music of the time.
Judgy people are the ones throwing you in the washed up area.
I did too… now my kids like Brittany Spears.
I'm just waiting for:
Them: I found this great classic rock band, Nickelback.
Me: Screams Internally
Nickelback had a banger or two, the problem is they rehashed that one banger into the ground. Releasing the same sone over and over again with slightly different lyrics.
That's what started the hate. If you find one of those early songs without context...
Nickelback are a great band that played top 40 acceptable rock by choice. They CAN thrash, they choose not to, and they are fucking loaded as a consequence.
Ive sat in dive bars and talked to a great many musicians about their artistic integrity. Ive never met anyone with real talent who had a tale of woe about selling out, probably because they dont drink in dive bars anymore.
NSYNC and backstreet boys are making an unironic comeback with my youngest son's peers, too.
"Toxic" remains an excellent track.
The guy with the metal detector in the background haha
I think he’s just poking a rock with a stick.
Must be Gen-X.
Oh, maybe. Hours of fun either way!
Kids these days don't know about rocky pokey. Sheeeeesh.
"Did you see University Challenge last night?"
Doesn’t matter how old you are, Piano Man will get you. Drinking songs transcend generations.
I can't stand that song. I heard it one too many times as a teen and it was only ever ok for me at best. I know that's gonna rustle some jimmies, but I gotta make a stand.
This is a tale as old as time: "perfectly good song gets overplayed and, so, ruined". I can't fault you for your circumstances growing up; nobody can. Some of us get exposed to a song like this at a wonderful time, in a wonderful place, and it becomes something we love.
I hope there's other songs that you love as much as some of us love this one.
For sure, and I don't mean to shit on it for those that do like it. It's a popular song for a reason. Enjoy what you like. 🙂
What happens if I tell them I like CCR, Johnny Cash or Sinatra?
You go to decrepit ranch.
It depends on whether TikTok has revitalized them. Also Cash was really popular for a minute with the teenagers when the movie came out.
Nine Inch Nails made Johnny Cash popular again when he covered "Hurt". Now Trent Reznor is older than Johnny Cash was when he covered "Hurt".
Frank or Nancy?
Mostly Frank, but I don't think it matters much I'm this case.
You probably don't care what teenagers think
True
My knees hurt to.
Pfft. *too*
Gawd. *eyeroll*
/s
Despite being in my 40's mine don't hurt at all, neither does my back.
PSYCHE!
The Washed Police didn't start the fire
It's the next generation on your favourite station.
Washed is still a thing? I remember 30 Rock doing a joke about this back in the mid 2000’s.
What does it say about me that I've liked Billy Joel's music since childhood?
That you have good taste in music.
What it says about you is that you're younger than 70 and have great taste in music, at least in this case.
But if you were in this comic's universe, you'd be washed ranch's honorary mayor right now.
I love the detail that the ranch is protected by a completely insurmountable waist-high fence. We can't get out because our backs hurt.
My youngest kid was playing Billy Joel (Vienna waits) the other day, they aren't even out of high school yet. Also loves Boz Scaggs. I think we've come full circle at this point. They also take music recommendations from me as easily as they give them, there is not even a hint of resistance, just "thank you for turning me on to that group they are so good" whether new or old, if they like it they like it, if they don't, they say so. I was NOT like that with my mom when I was a kid, though I did send her albums I thought she'd like as an adult.
Vienna makes me feel stuff; a lot of his songs do. 'And so it goes' is an emotional ride.
It sounds like your kid knows how to ignore social nonsense, and just appreciates good music.
I've been privileged enough to see a ton of live music. Billy Joel is in my top five best shows.
I'm middle aged, so adults were listening to classic rock from the 60's and early 70's when I was a kid, which I absolutely loved, and still love. My kid listened to the same music as a kid and loved and still loves it. I can't imagine not appreciating great music just because it's from an earlier time period. That would be destructively closed-minded.
My mom (now deceased) was literally one of the kids who stayed up late to hear "black music" on the radio and ran away from home to see Elvis, I wish I'd been able to record an interview with her before she got dementia. She wasn't at all judgy (and I wouldn't have had to run away to any show) just her taste ran to country and I listened to new wave and went to punk and hardcore punk shows there wasn't a lot of overlap. As it was between her and her parents, so she thought it normal. The kids who listened to classic rock in my high school were the kids who wanted to beat me up, real conformist bullies so it took me awhile to come around to that, though I did go to Rush concerts with my brothers anytime they came around.
I'm not really a respecter of genre or age now, as you say, if it's good it's good. I love a lot of the new music coming out and some stuff from before I was born, plenty in between.
Me, who is interested on maybe buying a typewriter and perhaps learning shorthand just for fun.
Just promise you'll never try to take up the accustic guitar.
I already play both acoustic and electric quite proficiently. But lately have been itching to properly learn piano.
Extra egregious depending on your background. We caught my older brother singing along to piano man. We are Latinos with like -50% Irish blood. We had to give him an intervention.
Came here to say Elton John is my Billy Joel. Send me to the ranch.
Some artists transcend their eras, like Bowie or The Beatles.
Most bands remain in a straitjacket of their times.
From the 70s-80s, Billy Joel is a fair-sized-not-huge "no" for me. So is Rod Stewart, and more or less for the same reasons.
Then some things feel utterly impenetrable and were ripe for parody even in their times, like Emerson Lake & Palmer.
Thin Lizzy, however... there are always some true-blue jewels hidden in the seas of music from their times.
Roxy Music! Roxy NEVER gets old, there's still a freshness to their music, unaffected by nostalgia, even decades later, after countless of listens, they still sound like "now" to me.
"The classics are 'the classics' for a reason. Otherwise its just old shit nobody cares about.
And that pose is out too, Sunny Jim. The new thing is to care passionately, and be right-wing.
I chuckled when hughie from the boys was a huge boy Joel fan, but when they put his actual music into season 3 I lost my shit. Pressure is my favorite and it was used beautifully. Kripke rocks.
brand's backwards
No, you're seeing it from this side of it, so it'll appear correctly. Think about if you had X-ray vision and could see through a stamp; viewed through the stamp, it would look like it was the right way around.
oh yeah, I'm drunk
Mirrors don't make words backwards either. They just let you see through the back of the paper.