Why is it always femme people this bullshit is directed at? Why aren't the hyper masculine tattooed manosphere influencers ever chastised for their jingoistic tribal alt right nazi sigils engraved on their bodies?
Yup conservatives don't see an individual happy with their own choices. They just think, "if that was my wife/daughter I'd restrict her freedoms so she wouldn't have any tattoos."
Well considering the common refrain from them recently was the question "What is a woman?" I have no confidence they even understand the concept of a femme body.
I was stuck at some train tracks in my area, and some of the graffiti on the trains left a gap around the safety information about weight limits and such.
Not all of them did. Those that didn't had to be painted over and re-written, but only the safety section. They left the rest alone.
There was some mutual acceptance happening on both sides of the effort that warmed my heart.
As a graffiti enthusiast, I can say that is definitely part of "the rules". Graffiti has a code of conduct, depite it appearing like anarchy. Many new writers are ignorant of it.
Don't tag:
Personal property
Places of religion
Memorials
Shipping or cargo data (like those train cars)
Places that are kept clean/painted (it's going to get covered frequently)
It drives me nuts when people graffiti over the street signs on the freeway. Like damn, you're hurting you community when there's vast stretches of concrete retaining walls 20 feet away you could be spray painting.
I've never been a fan of tattoos. They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it. That said, they can do whatever the hell they want. It's not my body or problem and they ain't hurting anyone.
depends on the tattoo, there's some adorable ones out there, this one is what me and my sister are gonna get because I love frogs (username) and hers is gonna be a black cat because she has a black cat
Random tattoos that are full black just for the hell of it aren't that interesting, however, you do you boo.
They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it.
You did the thing where you gave a very personal, subjective, opinion as if it was a pure fact. You probably meant "it distracts me from their beauty" but you wrote it as if it's a universal truth that applies to everyone.
Ehh I dunno... I don't agree with him but we don't have to preface our opinions with "this is just how I feel, but...".
If I say "this pizza is horrible", it's clear that it's just something I think and not everyone has to share that opinion. The subjectivity of the statement kinda speaks for itself y'know?
What if I said the same thing about a painting in a museum? If I said "wow that thing is hideous", no one would take that to mean "everyone must also think this is hideous". Just because it's a cultural norm doesn't change anything I think.
You did the thing where you policed the way someone else phrased their opinion by purposely misunderstanding their intent. He literally began his post by stating an opinion.
Maybe not all women actually want you to be looking at them thinking 'Wow, beautiful, yum.' So many women get so much shit from men every day all the time, often since they were still wearing school uniform. Like you say, it's not your body and they ain't hurting anyone. I just think it's really easy to understand why some women want to take ownership of their skin when there's so many arsehole men thinking they've got a right to stare and touch it.
Did you stop reading after the second sentence or are you saying that he's not allowed to have that opinion because some girl somewhere might disagree with it
They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it.
I don't really want to spend a lot of time doing some critical analysis here but give it a think. Implies beauty is important for women and not men, and their beauty is contingent on his viewing. This is basic male gaze stuff.
Plot twist: these tats would also be ugly AF on a guy. Now what, mfer.
They didn't just say tattoos are ugly. They went out of his way to focus on how they detract from a woman's beauty. Not men's beauty. The subtle "women should look beautiful for me" is what's not good here.
Their take could have been worse. They acknowledged that it's harmless and not their body. That's good.
The subtle "women should look beautiful for me" is what's not good here.
Offering benefit of the doubt, one might assume he referred to women's beauty in particular because this meme is about a woman, or perhaps he isn't gay/bi, and doesn't think about men's beauty. Or both. Or maybe something else. Misogyny is one of the possibilities, sure, but only one of the possibilities. I wouldn't have phrased it that way, but I don't think there's enough there to take the route of condemnation, personally.
We really didn't need to bring the "criticizing our community in the third person" farce over from reddit. You are Lemmy too, and I suspect you can handle abstract reasoning, yes?
I'm not bothered by the amount of tattoos. I'm bothered by the nazi swastika front and center. I would be just as bothered if they were just wearing a nazi arm band or Trump hat.
No, I think I'm on the point. I don't care about other people's appearances and I don't care to subject other people to what I think self respect looks like. I'm bothered by what their morals are and how they're going to make that my problem. Nazi tattoos mean that person wants to make life worse for other people. I'm not bothered by the dye, but by the ideas they represent. The woman in the picture doesn't have any hate symbols that I recognize.
You find the tattoos distasteful for a reason of your own. I share such a reason, but it's your own. Therefore you find the display graffiti-like: a blight on the visual landscape (in that interpretation of grafatti)
Edit The significance of Nazi iconography being distasteful is an easy one, and that's why it was used as an alternative display to prove the point.
Telling of what? The dude brought up something that didn't happen in the image and being like "Oh yeah well you're wrong because of something irrelevant"
Why the reference to illegal Nazi iconography in Frankfurt? The building posted looks to me to be in the contiguous US.
You posted an image of a person's mugshot who has a swastika on their forehead and I assumed you were conflating their tattoos to the person in the original image of this post.
There's no Portuguese in any of those tags. Three of the tags are east coast crews. If I were to have to put a location down I'd say North East Miami FL.
Dispose of your body as you choose but there is a very fine line that parts complimenting from exagerating. The girl in the photo, for me, is already on exageration territory.
Too much ink, with too many tattoos, with no connecting theme, and taking up areas where ink - again, for me - just doesn't sit right, like hands and throat.
But because opinions are worth nothing, this is all hot air escaping mouths.
I keep looking over the picture of the woman, trying to compare it to whatever the other image is of, and I’m not sure what they’re talking about. I’ve gone over every inch of her body and I don’t know what any of this is about. I’m sorry, what’s going on?
I don't even know. I must've caught a glimpse of something when I wrote that, but I'll be darned if I can't find it now. There's only the Illustrated Woman that I can see now.
Having that obvious joke out of the way; fuck these dumb comparisons. Though I would not recommend anyone wallpapering themselves, if she is happy this way then stop bitching. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean she doesn't either. That is trump thinking
Oh my god! I bet she's on one of those disgusting porn sites too! But which one? There are so many. Can someone point me in the right direction so I can make sure to blacklist it.
Her tattoos do specifically have that "Here's a blank spot where I can put some shit" feel to them.
Like I've seen cool tattoos, hers aren't. Shitty tattoos look like graffiti. And those aren't even "I've got pieces of a BIC pen and some rubbing alcohol, you can draw, right?" shitty tattoos, those are "Hey man it's your forehead. Keep this bandage dry for three days then wash it when you take a shower. That'll be 80 bucks." grade tattoos.
How do you think old people feel about all the actually old and saggy things? Our actual skin becomes something unrecognizable why would what's on it be expected to stay perfect?
See how her boobs are round, but the bikini is flat on the front of them? Her bikini isn't covering her sideboob. This top was designed for a girl with much smaller boobs, they'd be capable of actually bending around a smaller pair. These look like they're stretched over the front, because they are. The bridge (part connecting the cups) also looks to not even be in contact with her chest, because her top can't go all the way down around her boobs. She's probably wearing a sister size with a bigger band and smaller cups, which means the part of the top designed for her underbust is stretching over her boobs.
If she does very much physical activity, the edges of the cups will dig into her boobs, maybe painfully, and there's a risk of slipping if she goes swimming or diving. Bras are designed so your boobs go in the cups, not entirely behind them. This picture doesn't look comfy at all. She might be under the impression she's a C or a D, when her actual cup size is much larger. This is what happens when our society pretends D is the biggest bust size. Thanks to decades of women being misinformed about their clothing, many people have been convinced that this appearance here is just what a big bust looks like in a bikini. So some people go for this look on purpose. That's valid, but it isn't comfortable.
Very well, valid points, but can we consider that was a conscious option? There are women that willingly buy smaller bikiny tops to create the illusion their breasts are bigger. Or that just prefer to show more skin.
Have you seen those cars that have every bumper sticker imaginable on them? Also covered with lots of hand-scrawled signs with every random religious/cultish phrase possible. That's the vibe I get from these tattoos.
Just like the vehicles, those body adornments tell me all I want to know about the occupant.
If i saw this person on a beach, it wouldn't be my business...however this person is displaying it on social media, so it actually is my business to have an opinion.
I'm sure my opinion is as worthless to her as hers is to me. And btw nobody is comparing the woman to the object, the point is that the aesthetic is similar. Applies to all sexes and objects.
Imho the building tags are not art, or at least not good art. And her snakes, bugs and Japanese masks are so tired and trite, everyone does the same stuff. Yay.
Tired and trite? That sounds like most of mainstream movies, music, television... Yet people enjoy it. It is their choice to like what they like, and do what they do.
Sure someone else may want the ceiling of the Sistine chapel tattood on them, but she chose this.
I'm happy for her, she can do whatever she wants. She's still hot af. And people can watch whatever shit they want and they can have all the dumb opinions they want. That doesn't change how I see it, and I like to think that my criticism is constructive.
I think what many would argue is, what is and is not constructive about criticizing someone's choices. I think it is constructive to tell someone that wearing a reflective device or bright clothing when in low visibility situations such as hunting (if others are in the area shooting like Dick Cheney) or walking near traffic is constructive. But I don't see any ups to telling someone their clothing design doesn't agree with my tastes.
Whether I care for her tattoos or not, they aren't harming others outside of people being prudish and feeling like they don't have enough control over others choices.
Well to be fair nobody here told her anything, she probably doesn't know that some idiots are talking about her in some obscure corner of the internet. Way I see it we all should be able to criticise anything. Tattoos are a form of art and people are allowed to have opinions on it. Same goes for the "art" of tagging.
Because it's essentially saying that her decision to get tattoos is the equivalent of her vandalizing her body. It's a meme criticizing a woman for choosing what she wants to do with her body, which is just a tamer version of "your body my choice".
I saw that more like a criticism of the tattooing style, not her life decisions. Your body my choice is downright authoritarian. I don't see how it relates to this.
And the meme completely breaks down if the building is considered art so let's not play dumb. We both know in this meme the building isn't representing art.
The meme suggests that this beautiful woman made herself less attractive by getting tattoos. People who tend to agree with that statement are not necessarily nazis fascists sexists Trump voters rapists church goers and so on, despite the fact that many of that ilk share similar sentiments (but for completely different reasons). Believe it or not, not everyone likes this aesthetic and this is not political.
If you think "I don't like tattoos on women" is the same as "women with tattoos look like vandalized buildings" then you're missing the nuances necessary to have this discussion.
Yeah sure, and my tastes are also misaligned with the mentally insane people who smear themselves with their own feces. They're just expressing themselves obviously.
Nice comparison. Clearly smearing feces on yourself requires the same level of forethought and financial burden that getting multiple tattoos does.
I'm not even commenting on her taste, or yours. Just the juvenile declaration that she somehow does not care, when she's investing as much time and money into her looks as she has.
As far as tastes go, yours are as valid as hers are, I'd just choose a less inflammatory way to say you disagree with someone's taste.
You're right, it's not a fair comparison. At least you can wash the shit off the mentally unstable person with hot water and soap.
Just because she's financially able to make her shit smearing permanent through inking it doesn't make it any better. Doing heroin is also a financial burden but we don't glamorize that shit.
If she cared that much about her appearance she wouldn't make herself look like the average shitty neighborhood dumpster.
At some point we'll have to stop sugar coating every single shitty lifestyle choice people make.
Now don't get me wrong, she can do whatever she wants. Her body, her choice to look like an abandoned building.
My body, my choice to make fun of people with too much money and not enough common sense.
“Population collapse due to low birthrates is a much bigger risk to civilisation than global warming.”
Hell, I find the very use of the word "collapse" in that sentence to be a ridiculous exaggerated way to describe population growth slowing, or even stopping.
I also can't think of how such a thing would be a "risk" to civilization. Risking what, exactly?
Overall, kinda sounds like the inverse, equally-weird version of those people who make a big deal of declaring that human beings should all die and that we're a plague on the planet, etc.
It is weird, it's also the leading rhetoric for Musk and other conservative/alt right influencers that spread the message of the trad wife and the prerequisite purity required of a wife. Also how tattoos corrupt that "purity"
That population collapse quote was from Musk himself trying to downplay the environmental issues we all face as a species.
I'm reflecting on your refusal to interact with the medium. That is not an assumption.
I don’t assume its source based solely on this image, because this image doesn’t identify a source.
We're not discussing a source, we're talking about a trend in conservative discource and how it applies to memes. This isn't a doctoral defense of the media. You dodged an honest question with a refusal to engage. Thus you're currently being, in this instance, willfully ignorant.
Why is it always femme people this bullshit is directed at? Why aren't the hyper masculine tattooed manosphere influencers ever chastised for their jingoistic tribal alt right nazi sigils engraved on their bodies?
Because graffiti is artwork you do on someone else's property.
And in the maga brain, a man's body is his own, but a woman's body...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I hate that this makes sense
Yup conservatives don't see an individual happy with their own choices. They just think, "if that was my wife/daughter I'd restrict her freedoms so she wouldn't have any tattoos."
Well considering the common refrain from them recently was the question "What is a woman?" I have no confidence they even understand the concept of a femme body.
misogyny
In a word yes. And also the inherent threat of violence that allows for the patriarchy that precludes misogyny.
I just Googled "anti tattoo meme" and most of them were making fun of macho guys.
Here's a good primer
https://medium.com/@karmenkingery/why-socially-conservatives-especially-men-seem-to-dislike-womens-tattoos-63d4a0f4ae6d
I think guys get fun of for the content of their tattoos. Women get mocked for simply having them.
I'm sure this was rhetorical... But if not, I think you know why.
Cope much
I don't think that building has very nice tits
Agreed. Now look at this building.
*Mechanical- and brick-sounding motorboat noises
I hope it has the structural integrity.
I've had enough with this sort of edefice shaming.
We all need to be dense housing positive
Sorry but if it's got no flying buttresses it's not for me
Graffiti is a spectrum: on one hand, you get beautiful murals that add something to the structure, making it more than what it was.
On the other hand, you get dicks and swastikas.
Tattoos are the same way. There's a difference between someone having a beautiful sleeve done and someone who has TRUMP tattooed on their forehead.
An example to further your point: I have an album of these I took earlier this year. It was exciting to stumble across.
When I click the image, it flips over the X-axis. That's weird as hell.
Same here, on sync.
Damn, I feel left out. Jerboa didn't do it. I wonder what the difference was
Neither does Voyager
Speaking of Voyager, do you think New Glenn will launch on New Years Eve?
Never heard of that before 🤷
There is probably some info in the exif data that is being ignored by one and not the other.
There's definitely a difference between guerilla art and "fuckup was here."
I was stuck at some train tracks in my area, and some of the graffiti on the trains left a gap around the safety information about weight limits and such.
Not all of them did. Those that didn't had to be painted over and re-written, but only the safety section. They left the rest alone.
There was some mutual acceptance happening on both sides of the effort that warmed my heart.
As a graffiti enthusiast, I can say that is definitely part of "the rules". Graffiti has a code of conduct, depite it appearing like anarchy. Many new writers are ignorant of it. Don't tag:
This explains why the liquor store down the street has a Jesus mural on the side.
Anarchy isn't a synonym for chaos my dude. If graffiti has a code of conduct that isn't enforced by a government, that's definitely Anarchy.
It drives me nuts when people graffiti over the street signs on the freeway. Like damn, you're hurting you community when there's vast stretches of concrete retaining walls 20 feet away you could be spray painting.
I've never been a fan of tattoos. They look awful and, in the case of women distract from beauty, not add to it. That said, they can do whatever the hell they want. It's not my body or problem and they ain't hurting anyone.
depends on the tattoo, there's some adorable ones out there, this one is what me and my sister are gonna get because I love frogs (username) and hers is gonna be a black cat because she has a black cat
Random tattoos that are full black just for the hell of it aren't that interesting, however, you do you boo.
It's all a matter of taste.
This is an adorable tattoo idea!
I've seen tons of tattoos on women that I feel profoundly add to their beauty. Emphasis on the "i feel" since it's subjective.
You did the thing where you gave a very personal, subjective, opinion as if it was a pure fact. You probably meant "it distracts me from their beauty" but you wrote it as if it's a universal truth that applies to everyone.
Ehh I dunno... I don't agree with him but we don't have to preface our opinions with "this is just how I feel, but...".
If I say "this pizza is horrible", it's clear that it's just something I think and not everyone has to share that opinion. The subjectivity of the statement kinda speaks for itself y'know?
There's a difference between stating a preference and enforcing a cultural standard.
What if I said the same thing about a painting in a museum? If I said "wow that thing is hideous", no one would take that to mean "everyone must also think this is hideous". Just because it's a cultural norm doesn't change anything I think.
"this pizza is horrible" isn't misogyny though, so it doesn't benefit from the distancing.
You did the thing where you policed the way someone else phrased their opinion by purposely misunderstanding their intent. He literally began his post by stating an opinion.
And his opinion was basic misogyny
Maybe not all women actually want you to be looking at them thinking 'Wow, beautiful, yum.' So many women get so much shit from men every day all the time, often since they were still wearing school uniform. Like you say, it's not your body and they ain't hurting anyone. I just think it's really easy to understand why some women want to take ownership of their skin when there's so many arsehole men thinking they've got a right to stare and touch it.
Did you stop reading after the second sentence or are you saying that he's not allowed to have that opinion because some girl somewhere might disagree with it
He can have an opinion and it can also be really boring misogyny.
Except there is zero misogyny in that statement
I don't really want to spend a lot of time doing some critical analysis here but give it a think. Implies beauty is important for women and not men, and their beauty is contingent on his viewing. This is basic male gaze stuff.
Anyone can have an opinion, the point is that whatever my opinion is there's no reason to make it her problem.
Woman does something.
Someone thinks it's not good.
"WOW MISOGYNY"
Plot twist: these tats would also be ugly AF on a guy. Now what, mfer.
They didn't just say tattoos are ugly. They went out of his way to focus on how they detract from a woman's beauty. Not men's beauty. The subtle "women should look beautiful for me" is what's not good here.
Their take could have been worse. They acknowledged that it's harmless and not their body. That's good.
It's a picture of a woman, why would they talk about men's beauty? Jesus.
Jesus was beautiful, and he had a fabulous tattoo somewhere you'd never guess.
Offering benefit of the doubt, one might assume he referred to women's beauty in particular because this meme is about a woman, or perhaps he isn't gay/bi, and doesn't think about men's beauty. Or both. Or maybe something else. Misogyny is one of the possibilities, sure, but only one of the possibilities. I wouldn't have phrased it that way, but I don't think there's enough there to take the route of condemnation, personally.
No no, they have a point.
I don't see any nazi iconography in the image OP posted, can you point them out to me?
I was applying the claim to something else
If you are talking about graffiti on buildings then you haven’t been to Frankfurt if you’ve not seen nazi imagery
Lemmy cannot handle abstract reasoning. If you change the scenario at all to make a point, they shit circuit
We really didn't need to bring the "criticizing our community in the third person" farce over from reddit. You are Lemmy too, and I suspect you can handle abstract reasoning, yes?
Thinking you're a special online community is also a reddit trope.
I'm not bothered by the amount of tattoos. I'm bothered by the nazi swastika front and center. I would be just as bothered if they were just wearing a nazi arm band or Trump hat.
You're pretty close to the point.
The point is that it's subjective, and given the right content or quantity, it looks bad to you.
No, I think I'm on the point. I don't care about other people's appearances and I don't care to subject other people to what I think self respect looks like. I'm bothered by what their morals are and how they're going to make that my problem. Nazi tattoos mean that person wants to make life worse for other people. I'm not bothered by the dye, but by the ideas they represent. The woman in the picture doesn't have any hate symbols that I recognize.
You find the tattoos distasteful for a reason of your own. I share such a reason, but it's your own. Therefore you find the display graffiti-like: a blight on the visual landscape (in that interpretation of grafatti)
Edit The significance of Nazi iconography being distasteful is an easy one, and that's why it was used as an alternative display to prove the point.
If you have to change the scenario to make your point then your point doesn't belong in this comment section.
It's a common way to illustrate a point, by describing it with other variables.
Your reply is telling lol
Telling of what? The dude brought up something that didn't happen in the image and being like "Oh yeah well you're wrong because of something irrelevant"
What are you applying the claim to?
Why the reference to illegal Nazi iconography in Frankfurt? The building posted looks to me to be in the contiguous US.
You posted an image of a person's mugshot who has a swastika on their forehead and I assumed you were conflating their tattoos to the person in the original image of this post.
People with nazi tattoos
I thought you might not have known racist graffiti existed
Oh no, nothing about her. Just the “Tattoos = graffiti, guys” part was applied to the person I posted
Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. Thanks for the clarification.
The building is most likely in São Paulo. Not that it matters for for the point you’re making :)
There's no Portuguese in any of those tags. Three of the tags are east coast crews. If I were to have to put a location down I'd say North East Miami FL.
Well, look at this documentary and see if it might change your mind ;)
Is that a nazi prison gang sex slave? That's pretty horrific.
God damn thats hot. Someone put a lot of work into that building.
Call me whatever you want, but like anything else, too much of a good thing is bad for you.
You stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking, nerf herder!
🤣
Exactly.
All freedom to her, and I like tatoos, but I think her assortment of tattoos is a bit ugly.
Dispose of your body as you choose but there is a very fine line that parts complimenting from exagerating. The girl in the photo, for me, is already on exageration territory.
Too much ink, with too many tattoos, with no connecting theme, and taking up areas where ink - again, for me - just doesn't sit right, like hands and throat.
But because opinions are worth nothing, this is all hot air escaping mouths.
I'd fuck that building.
I dunno, I bet it's had thousands of people inside it.
Don't slut shame that building!
The tatoos would not stop me.
Tbh if done nice, i think they can even be attractive.
Turn off the lights.
Keep 'em on, get to read the funnies while bangin'
I keep looking over the picture of the woman, trying to compare it to whatever the other image is of, and I’m not sure what they’re talking about. I’ve gone over every inch of her body and I don’t know what any of this is about. I’m sorry, what’s going on?
Basically they're saying the tattoos make her trashy.
I guess I'm still not understanding it. Time to pour over the picture some more, see if we can't figure it out.
Where’s the other image you speak of?
I don't even know. I must've caught a glimpse of something when I wrote that, but I'll be darned if I can't find it now. There's only the Illustrated Woman that I can see now.
All these comments and not a single one telling me who she is. Smh my head
Reverse image search ftw https://www.instagram.com/bmarkhaa?igsh=MWJ1eTI1MmZnZjVrMw==
The best Christmas present I've gotten so far
how does this relate to the NSFW goth girl fetish community ?
I salute you for informing me of that community
Lemmy has NSFW content?! Since when?
I got you, buddy.
Perfection!
Porn? On the internet?????
It’s also possible you’ve disabled NSFW content
If you have go to your instances website (if your on an app) and change it in your account settings, some clients also have a client side NSFW block
Please somebody be so kind and insert a picture of a skeleton covered in cobwebs with my handle stamped on it below my first comment.
That is how old I feel right now.
Sopuli.xyz defederates nsfw instances. And most nsfw stuff is on dedicated instance.
Guess I'll have to consult the bones to see if it is worth the trouble to create another profile just for NSFW surfing.
Plenty of mobile clients allow you to use multiple profiles simultaneously.
google "lemmynsfw" there's a dedicated instance for NSFW
She makes much more sense when you undo the mirroring whichever dipshit created this did. The backwards texts in crazy fonts were breaking my brain.
I appreciate the commitment in both cases. Whoever climbed out to do the graffiti at the top of the building had some guts.
Some phones have mirroring enabled by default when taking selfies
I'd rather be in her than in that building.
Having that obvious joke out of the way; fuck these dumb comparisons. Though I would not recommend anyone wallpapering themselves, if she is happy this way then stop bitching. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean she doesn't either. That is trump thinking
Oh my god! I bet she's on one of those disgusting porn sites too! But which one? There are so many. Can someone point me in the right direction so I can make sure to blacklist it.
https://www.instagram.com/bmarkhaa
Her name is Brooke Bradshaw.
They don't understand consent.
Exactly. We never agreed to put that guy in charge of the building; he just inherited it!
Both looks bad. It's too many tattoos on one hand, and pretty scrambled a bad looking graffiti on the other hand.
Her tattoos do specifically have that "Here's a blank spot where I can put some shit" feel to them.
Like I've seen cool tattoos, hers aren't. Shitty tattoos look like graffiti. And those aren't even "I've got pieces of a BIC pen and some rubbing alcohol, you can draw, right?" shitty tattoos, those are "Hey man it's your forehead. Keep this bandage dry for three days then wash it when you take a shower. That'll be 80 bucks." grade tattoos.
That girl needs a larger bikini top.
Goddamn it. I've become my mother.
I think it's intentional
What tattoos?
I think it's the other part of the picture that didn't catch my attention
Over here is Clay Aiken
There's a side of bacon
And a minotaur pillow fightin' with Satan
Next to Hello Kitty and a zombie ice skatin' - wait...
It's Ronald Reagan
Even the building is kinda cool.
Holy crap! How many guys have tagged you?
Art on art is appreciated twice
Rather have a woman being awful on the outside than the inside :-)
And the rent is cheaper?
Wonder how old people feel about their tattoos like does it look wierd and saggy.
How do you think old people feel about all the actually old and saggy things? Our actual skin becomes something unrecognizable why would what's on it be expected to stay perfect?
I guess what I'm saying is do they still feel it was worth it. Seeing the canvas warp over time.
I'm also wondering if there are parts of my body that would be better if I wanted to preserve the integrity of a tattoo like my back. I dk.
I've always wondered about this with tongue piercings...
Mainly faded and blurry.
Well the added can be touched up at least.
Sheesh
"My mommy didn't have tattoos or colorful hair so those things are ugly!"
She's wearing the wrong size bikini top. The cup size on that top is way too small.
Might be intentional, a stylistic choice
Why is that?
See how her boobs are round, but the bikini is flat on the front of them? Her bikini isn't covering her sideboob. This top was designed for a girl with much smaller boobs, they'd be capable of actually bending around a smaller pair. These look like they're stretched over the front, because they are. The bridge (part connecting the cups) also looks to not even be in contact with her chest, because her top can't go all the way down around her boobs. She's probably wearing a sister size with a bigger band and smaller cups, which means the part of the top designed for her underbust is stretching over her boobs.
If she does very much physical activity, the edges of the cups will dig into her boobs, maybe painfully, and there's a risk of slipping if she goes swimming or diving. Bras are designed so your boobs go in the cups, not entirely behind them. This picture doesn't look comfy at all. She might be under the impression she's a C or a D, when her actual cup size is much larger. This is what happens when our society pretends D is the biggest bust size. Thanks to decades of women being misinformed about their clothing, many people have been convinced that this appearance here is just what a big bust looks like in a bikini. So some people go for this look on purpose. That's valid, but it isn't comfortable.
Very well, valid points, but can we consider that was a conscious option? There are women that willingly buy smaller bikiny tops to create the illusion their breasts are bigger. Or that just prefer to show more skin.
Yes.
Then, no harm, no foul. Yes?
You’ve clearly spent more time thinking about boob support than about dragon seduction strategies
Drag simply paid attention to r/abrathatfits so that drag's boobs would be comfortable.
Or maybe... Hold on, this is a big revelation, maybe, juuuust maybe: It was intentional😱
I'm more curious as to how multiple different people tagged all like 8 floors of the building. Maybe it's AI generated?
No, this a local style in Brazil, I think in the city of São Paulo. Look up pixadores. They essentially compete in hitting up crazy spots.
Edit:
trailer toa documentary about this sub culture. It’s pretty fascinating.Have you ever seen an abandoned building in real life?
I mean, it's a fairly reasonable comparison aside from the fact the building is shitty. Is it political in any sense? I don't think so.
Have you seen those cars that have every bumper sticker imaginable on them? Also covered with lots of hand-scrawled signs with every random religious/cultish phrase possible. That's the vibe I get from these tattoos.
Just like the vehicles, those body adornments tell me all I want to know about the occupant.
Like what?
How is it any of your business though?
If i saw this person on a beach, it wouldn't be my business...however this person is displaying it on social media, so it actually is my business to have an opinion.
Is this sarcasm?
No, this is Patrick.
I fw these heavy🙏😔
She would look way better without the tats. Even this shitty building would look better without this artless crap. And how is this a political take?
That's just like, your opinion, man.
this Camaro is ruined! It's covered in sharpie art!
...it's still a Camaro
Donny, please
Comparing women to objects tends to be more frowned upon by civilized people, which excludes the right.
You're welcome to find whatever you like attractive. She clearly doesn't care about your opinion.
I'm sure my opinion is as worthless to her as hers is to me. And btw nobody is comparing the woman to the object, the point is that the aesthetic is similar. Applies to all sexes and objects. Imho the building tags are not art, or at least not good art. And her snakes, bugs and Japanese masks are so tired and trite, everyone does the same stuff. Yay.
Tired and trite? That sounds like most of mainstream movies, music, television... Yet people enjoy it. It is their choice to like what they like, and do what they do.
Sure someone else may want the ceiling of the Sistine chapel tattood on them, but she chose this.
I'm happy for her, she can do whatever she wants. She's still hot af. And people can watch whatever shit they want and they can have all the dumb opinions they want. That doesn't change how I see it, and I like to think that my criticism is constructive.
I'm glad you say she can do whatever she wants.
I think what many would argue is, what is and is not constructive about criticizing someone's choices. I think it is constructive to tell someone that wearing a reflective device or bright clothing when in low visibility situations such as hunting (if others are in the area shooting like Dick Cheney) or walking near traffic is constructive. But I don't see any ups to telling someone their clothing design doesn't agree with my tastes.
Whether I care for her tattoos or not, they aren't harming others outside of people being prudish and feeling like they don't have enough control over others choices.
Well to be fair nobody here told her anything, she probably doesn't know that some idiots are talking about her in some obscure corner of the internet. Way I see it we all should be able to criticise anything. Tattoos are a form of art and people are allowed to have opinions on it. Same goes for the "art" of tagging.
Because it's essentially saying that her decision to get tattoos is the equivalent of her vandalizing her body. It's a meme criticizing a woman for choosing what she wants to do with her body, which is just a tamer version of "your body my choice".
I saw that more like a criticism of the tattooing style, not her life decisions. Your body my choice is downright authoritarian. I don't see how it relates to this.
Even if it is a criticism of the tattooing style it's still likening it to vandalism. It doesn't change the message behind the meme.
See what you and I call vandalism on that building some call art.
And the meme completely breaks down if the building is considered art so let's not play dumb. We both know in this meme the building isn't representing art.
The meme suggests that this beautiful woman made herself less attractive by getting tattoos. People who tend to agree with that statement are not necessarily nazis fascists sexists Trump voters rapists church goers and so on, despite the fact that many of that ilk share similar sentiments (but for completely different reasons). Believe it or not, not everyone likes this aesthetic and this is not political.
If you think "I don't like tattoos on women" is the same as "women with tattoos look like vandalized buildings" then you're missing the nuances necessary to have this discussion.
She doesnt care how she looks for you.
She clearly doesn't care how she looks, yes
Someone who puts that much effort into their outward expression of themselves clearly cares about how they look. You just have misaligned tastes.
Yeah sure, and my tastes are also misaligned with the mentally insane people who smear themselves with their own feces. They're just expressing themselves obviously.
Nice comparison. Clearly smearing feces on yourself requires the same level of forethought and financial burden that getting multiple tattoos does.
I'm not even commenting on her taste, or yours. Just the juvenile declaration that she somehow does not care, when she's investing as much time and money into her looks as she has.
As far as tastes go, yours are as valid as hers are, I'd just choose a less inflammatory way to say you disagree with someone's taste.
You're right, it's not a fair comparison. At least you can wash the shit off the mentally unstable person with hot water and soap.
Just because she's financially able to make her shit smearing permanent through inking it doesn't make it any better. Doing heroin is also a financial burden but we don't glamorize that shit.
If she cared that much about her appearance she wouldn't make herself look like the average shitty neighborhood dumpster.
At some point we'll have to stop sugar coating every single shitty lifestyle choice people make.
Now don't get me wrong, she can do whatever she wants. Her body, her choice to look like an abandoned building.
My body, my choice to make fun of people with too much money and not enough common sense.
While true...
It ain't stopping nothing.
Your username would be better if it were a fruit
Your face would be better if it was in the sand
I don't see how this is anywhere on the political spectrum. It's just a little dumb.
And yet the people who make this point are all bunched up in one corner.
That's a pretty big assumption.
Before I make an assumption let me ask. What is your position on marriage and the need to raise children?
Alright.
...can you be more specific?
Uh...children do in fact need to be raised...?
I feel like you're either not asking quite what you intend to, or I'm missing something.
Are you pronatalist? Specifically do you agree with the statement,
"Population collapse due to low birthrates is a much bigger risk to civilisation than global warming."
I don't think so, but how do you define it?
Hell, I find the very use of the word "collapse" in that sentence to be a ridiculous exaggerated way to describe population growth slowing, or even stopping.
I also can't think of how such a thing would be a "risk" to civilization. Risking what, exactly?
Overall, kinda sounds like the inverse, equally-weird version of those people who make a big deal of declaring that human beings should all die and that we're a plague on the planet, etc.
It is weird, it's also the leading rhetoric for Musk and other conservative/alt right influencers that spread the message of the trad wife and the prerequisite purity required of a wife. Also how tattoos corrupt that "purity"
That population collapse quote was from Musk himself trying to downplay the environmental issues we all face as a species.
Weird I wonder how femme people could be politicized lately
https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-election-womens-rights-social-media-d5cea53480437ac8bf837aaa821e5681
Well no shit, but I don't see anything in this image that makes it right or left or center or anything.
Comparing a femme person's choice to decorate their own body and a graffitied building doesn't have overtones? Are you engaging with this honestly?
I don't assume its source based solely on this image, because this image doesn't identify a source.
Ah, willfully ignorant then. Understood
There you go making assumptions again.
I'm reflecting on your refusal to interact with the medium. That is not an assumption.
We're not discussing a source, we're talking about a trend in conservative discource and how it applies to memes. This isn't a doctoral defense of the media. You dodged an honest question with a refusal to engage. Thus you're currently being, in this instance, willfully ignorant.