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Elon Musk is pissing off everyone on Trump’s team

Summary

“He wants to be seen as having say in everything (even if he doesn’t),” one person in Trump’s orbit said.

Elon Musk’s growing influence in Donald Trump’s orbit is reportedly irritating members of the former president’s inner circle.

Since his efforts helped secure Trump’s reelection, Musk has been highly visible at Mar-a-Lago, taking credit for Trump’s victory and acting as if he’s a “co-president.”

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

Despite his appointment to lead the Department of Government Efficiency, some close to Trump feel Musk’s overreach and need for attention may jeopardize his position, as Trump dislikes sharing the spotlight.

Elon Musk is pissing off everyone on Trump’s teamhttps://newrepublic.com/post/188501/elon-musk-annoying-trump-teamOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
FenrirIIIreply
lemmy.world

Meanwhile, in the Democratic Party headquarters...

"At least the economy is doing well."

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Ah yes… “the economy”… or in other word’s rich people’s yacht money.

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Nah, last time, Trump had entirely fired and hired a new staff by the end of the first year. Elon is too attention hungry and Trump won't like the spotlight taken off of him constantly. I'm fairly confident Elon will be one of the fastest staff members to be relieved of duty.

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sh.itjust.works

Musk has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

That's a pretty clear violation of the Logan Act. Gettin' blue from holding my breath over here.

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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

Sadly, no, we were forced to eat the minstrels in the frozen lands of Nador.

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Who are we all really kidding with any semblance of expectations, though? It hasn't even been 100 uears since Kennedy and the crack job that was the Warren Commission.

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mwguyreply
infosec.pub

Historically the Logan act has been interpreted to not include the Presiden-Elect and their incoming administration.

If the things mentioned this is the most "normal".

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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

Is it possible to be part of an administration if you've only been named as part of a department that doesn't exist?

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That specific precedent likely doesn't exist as most new cabinet level positions aren't created by President Elects.

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All of the people swirling around in the sewage that is donvict's thugs are probably pissing off each other, because all of them are Karens, FFS.

Even annoying AF people get annoyed by other annoying assholes...

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Republicans: "Billionaires are just better than everyone else and we should all get out of their way and hand them the keys to everything for the betterment of all mankind."

Republicans After Being Forced to Spend One (1) Week Around Elon Musk: "No, shit, wait, these guys are fucking idiots!"

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I forgot there were going to be potentially 3 CEOs in the Whitehouse. They're going to get under each other's skin like you wouldn't believe. We're still fucked but the infighting should be quite enjoyable.

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P1nkmanreply
lemmy.world

As a European, I'm here with a bucket of popcorn in one hand, enjoying the shit show. I'm of course scared for what will happen, and the consequences will impact the entire planet, but since I have absolutely nothing I can do about it, the enjoyment will suffice.

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kautaureply
lemmy.world

All of Donnie’s boys sitting in the “work in the White House together” challenge like

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WindyRebelreply
lemmy.world

Even funnier context is that this episode he was annoyed at Tesla. 🤣

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Nah this gif is from Season 11, Episode 5 “Mac and Dennis move to the suburbs”

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4359300/

The Tesla episode is Season 16, Episode 8 “Dennis takes a mental health day”

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt28056422/

Both absolutely hilarious episodes and the second one specifically a testament to how good of a show IASIP is when 16 seasons in they can blend modern day to day issues with something like the insanity of Dennis’s character

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Yep. Best to enjoy the circus and try to ignore you can't leave the show.

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lemmy.world

Oh man I can't wait for this knot of over-torqued springs to explode apart into pieces. Too bad the shrapnel will probably kill us all.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, one part of the prediction and fears raised about the republicans is it gives them far too much credit to actually run a government.

They have held the house and the Senate before and then been crippled by infighting as with slim majoroties it only takes a few people to hold everyone hostage.

Some of Trumps nominations may not get through the Republican controlled Congress.

People seem to forget the republicans controlled all 3 parts of government in 2016 and didn't get far. Yes they managed some significant things but tax cuts and supreme Court nominations are the main successes.

This time Trump is making batshit crazy nominations which are likely to divide their own party in Congress.

Gaetz nomination is particularly bad as he's hated by a lot of Republican law makers. There are likely enough republicans who actually care about the legal system that his nomination will not get through. If it does get through then it'll be a sign of how bad things can be. But it's likely it will not get through and just sow seeds of discord between Trump and some of the republicans in Congress, poisoning more attempts to change things.

I predict one hell of a shit show over the next 2 years, but probably not from what they do - instead from what they fail to do and the recriminations that follow. All those Republican law makers telling themselves that Trump is diminished, less of a threat, and that they can control him are in for a hell of a ride.

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That's basically my only hope. Incompetence, bickering, infighting, and just generally falling apart from within their own hate machine as these kinds of ideologies tend to do.

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Add in the congress critters from both houses need to run their own campaigns at some point, in many cases they can’t afford to just kiss the ring. This is especially true in the house where seats are up for grabs “soon” and the voter base is relatively small. If you’re a Representative and won your seat on a small margin, you clearly don’t have a mandate and need to act more moderate. Some senate seats are in the same boat (McCormick in PA, assuming the recount still favors him, is in this boat; he’s run three times now and barely beat out Casey this time, it’s a fair bet he doesn’t have solid footing for his first term and can only toe the party line so far). The only thing we should all bet on is at the end of the day everyone in politics is going to lookout for themselves first. It’s going to be a shitshow for at least the next two years, probably the full four and maybe beyond.

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lemmy.world

has joined key diplomatic calls and even attempted to broker peace with Iran.

I have to stop reading the news here. I can feel the aneurysm growing in my head.

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Pingudiemreply
lemmy.world

Non American here but is that not against the law? He is no official representative...

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Likely, but who is going to do anything about it? My country is an embarrassment and proven that there are no laws for those under a certain status/value.

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Metzreply
lemmy.world

I'm no american either so no idea. There are quite some things where I as a European can only think either “wtf, how is that legal?” or “wtf, that makes no sense”.

Especially that the president can apparently choose any people with any qualifications (or a complete lack thereof) for any position whatsoever. even if they are completely unsuitable or even completely contrary to the purpose of the position.

A modern democracy should have certain safeguards in place. Or at least some fucking standards and requirements.

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The 3 branches of government that are supposed to serve as a system of checks and balances on each other have been overtaken by greed and fear.

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As we have learned over the last few years, laws are only as strong as their enforcement mechanism. If the institutions responsible for upholding the law fail to do that, or even enable violating the law even more, then the law is useless.

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Only reason that's allowed is the Repuglican infatuation with the orange

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lemmy.world

Are we going to see Trump Admin Churn before he even takes office!?

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Money on we end up with a new time scale for shortest tenure by January 20th

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I'm looking forward to 4 years of great and annoying articles like this

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lemmy.world

Trapezoid Musk wants to steal the attention away from Trump. He will never allow that. I pray they will clash at each other

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

So funny that Musk has specifically chickened out of a fight like that.

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we already know they hate each other this happened last term for elon/trump too.

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It would be nice if their future punchups doesn't include us as potential collateral :')

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Trump has promised a cabinet position to every insufferable asshole in the country who insists that everyone accept their own fringe views and talks over anyone who disagrees, while also knowing nothing about what they're talking about. This is gonna be funny to watch, but painful to experience.

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lemmy.world

Please fire him. Preferably into the sun, but I'll accept simply out of any position in government.

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blady_blahreply
lemmy.world

Trump doesn't let people gain much power around him and neither Musk or Trump play well with others. Elon will be gone soon enough. I've got the popcorn for when the cat-fight starts. Should be fun.

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Sure, but Elon is well aware that Diaper Donnie is getting worse every day, and he is trying to be favoured by the king before the royal snuffing.

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The only good part of the Trump regime will be watching them infight as we all go up in flames.

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lemmy.world

I'm gonna call bullshit on this. For years now, I've been reading articles just like this one, and at the end of the day, nobody that could change anything did a fucking thing. It's just posturing and means nothing.

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Everybody hated everybody and I didn't like what Trump was doing, but I fucking did it anyway. Buy my book.

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FarFarAwayreply
startrek.website

Pre-covid Musk quit Trumps presidential councils over "withdrawal of the Paris climate accord." If nothing else, theres a possibility, I guess...

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FarFarAwayreply
startrek.website

Yeah, well...

Happened once, doesn't mean it's can't happen again. No matter how unlikely, this time.

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I'm thinking at this point he can't un-ring that bell. Maybe he has a stroke and pulls a reverse Fetterman, or better yet, has a stroke and pulls a Winston Churchill.

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enbyechoreply
lemmy.world

"nobody that could change anything did a fucking thing"

Actually, things did happen. Many things happened. Your ignorance of them doesn't mean they didn't happen.

In this case we have an incoming chaos presidency. Government by chaos doesn't work well and tends to return to stasis not least because people tend to want to do their jobs. Musk will disappear onto his next ADHD and excessive wealth-fueled adventure, probably Vance will have Trump shuffled quietly to the side (or maybe out a window) and the infighting among cabinet members and political appointees will ensure that few of Trump's "promises" are kept.

There will be lots of damage, many people will suffer, and recovery will take a long time. But out of that things will change.

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Yea, lots of things did happen, and most of them were bad. The people that I'm referring to that "could change" things are the republicans that could use their votes to stop tyranny, but none of them did.

I hope that you're correct that we will see change from this, but I don't agree with you that Musk is going to fade into political irrelevance and that JD will sunset Trump.

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lemm.ee

A less endearing Dwight Schrute

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For a second I thought you meant Dwight from DBD and I just imagined Elon Musk getting chased around The Fog by Ghosface and Dracula.

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lemmy.world

When you are fucking the bosses wife, you get to do anything you want.

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lemmy.world

What, the autistic tech bro doesn't fit in with the conservative old pedophile club?

Just wait until one of their phones break or they need a printer set up, they'll be begging him then.

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lemmy.world

Does he even know how to do that stuff? I got the impression he's just a loudmouth dumbass who doesn't know anything about anything. I know his fanbois think he's some kind of UberEngineer, but....I have seen no evidence of that.

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lemmy.world

Him and others created Zip2 and PayPal before acquiring Tesla, but I guess you can argue he was a silver spoon baby playing stock games until he reached the top.

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Todayreply
lemmy.world

Trump said musk is 'the best at computers' so...

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b161reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

That’s not fair. Musk is also a member of the conservative old pedophile club.

Those kung fu lessons with ghislaine and the parties with Diddy must have had him buying a lot of horses for little girls.

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Thats fair I guess but unlike the rest of them he isn't in any legal battles over any of it, so it is all speculation just like the right does with the Clintons.

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lemmy.world

I had predicted this a while back, in that enabling Trump meant victory for the GOP, but the total erosion of Conservative values. This is clear in that any career politician will likely cede power to a bunch of nutjobs or meme lords with money.

They can either shut up and let Trump do his thing (lol), or they can dig their heels in and fight his decisions from within, grinding government to a halt (also lol). Either way, it's a win for most, because in the long term the right will bail after Trump and leave a party so weak that it probably won't be able to fight off the memory of Trump. He'll never endorse a candidate that's not himself, especially if the GOP blocks him. His rabid fan base will either die out, or go third-party because the GOP is "too woke" or something.

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because in the long term the right will bail after Trump and leave a party so weak that it probably won’t be able to fight off the memory of Trump

Look at this optimist still assuming there's going to be another election and that a republican party actually matters. The supreme court has already ruled he can't be held liable for anything he does while president if it's an "official act" - if you think he won't try "officially" ending the public choosing the next president, you might be in for a rude awakening.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Conservative values

I don't think the dollar values in their accounts have eroded. Or where you meaning something else?

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EnderMBreply
lemmy.world

A lot of people favour less government intervention, fiscal responsibility, stronger laws, and strength in the free market. IMO at a base level this isn't an inherently evil thing to believe/want.

Obviously, most politicians don't represent this, but for those that do they find the current party doesn't represent them. Eight years of Trump is probably enough to destroy many careers.

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IMO at a base level this isn't an inherently evil thing to believe/want.

Not evil, but misguided. All of these things are euphemisms for destroying (or not having in the first place) social safety nets, letting deregulated corporations run amok and replacing the rule of law with the rule of the richest. And most people who say they want these euphemisms don't understand that, otherwise they wouldn't want them. Because the consequences are objectively bad for at least 90% of people in any given country.

Btw, none of these things you mention are "conservative values".

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Trumps administration will likely start out with a lot of power hungry egomaniac freaks, and then with its very high turnover, trump loyalists will be filtered through, like they did in their first term.

Competence doesn't really matter.

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Obviously, Musk wants to be the shadow president of the USA but I don't think it'll play out as he hopes.

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fedia.io

The more he acts up, the quicker trump will dump his ass. Fat Donnie is the dictator and wants all the attention, other people taking that away get dumped, bigly!

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lemmy.world

By Christmas the Department of Government Efficiency (they really should have used Excess for the E) will no longer be going to exist.

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they really should have used Excess for the E

Holy shit, you're so right, it would've made so much more sense! But do you really think they know hard words like this? I'd be utterly flabbergasted if trump had used the word "holistic" in a sentence that would've made sense, but that won't happen.

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lemm.ee

I really hope they throw him under the bus, and then later they can fire him and blame him for anything that goes wrong.

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If he runs the US Government anything like he runs Tesla and Twitter, yeah that's on brand.

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lemmy.world

Hoping this results in real negative consequences for once in musk's life.

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Hey, yeah. Trump is a vindictive shit against people he perceives as disloyal. Watch what happens to Mike Pence after the inauguration to see a preview of how badly Republicans are going to eat their own. Hopefully very badly.

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I hope he pisses them off so much Trump strips him of his wealth... then maybe other rich people would see why this future is going to suck.

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lemmy.today

He's a genius billionaire, so we should always listen to what he says, no matter how stupid it is.

/s

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Yeah. Like that shitty sub he built

At least unlike the cave divers, when he calls people in Trump's team a pedo this time when they ignore him, he might actually be right

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Even ignoring the fact that he's a billionaire and that's what got him where he is, Musk's personality seems to be such that he is innately annoying as fuck. He'll always have yes-men around him because of his money, but I do wonder just how long everyone else in his current political circle are going to tolerate him. I'm hoping he'll be his own annoying downfall.

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Let them beat each other to pulp even before January, and it won't be a loss.

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sh.itjust.works

Is he (or ANYONE else for that matter) really under the impression that he had any effect on the election one way or the other? That's the biggest sign of arrogance right there.

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Except in this case he did. Hundreds of millions of dollars of influence.

When senators get bought off on issues for a couple thousand bucks at most, his contribution unfortunately did indeed sway minds that mattered.

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