Spyke

Queen sucks

Queen the band sucks. I don't get why anyone likes them. Aside from Bohemian Rhapsody, their songs are bland and fall short. Their rock is dry. And the opera-style singing is cringe. Examples:

Another One Bites the Dust

  • Catchy bass line, fun to direct at an opponent, CORNY AF. The song is about people being killed, but sounds like a funky Michael Jackson song with an Opera singer.

We Will Rock You

  • Good solo, repetitive and annoying simple beat. Boom-boom-ch. So lame.

We Are the Champions

  • Such a self-aggrandizing and braggy song. "No time for losers"? Okay, Donald Trump.

Bicycle Race

  • I don't even have to say anything about this one. Everyone knows how corny this song sounds.

Somebody to Love

  • Touching topic, cheesy lyrics and even cheesier choir-like singing. It's cringe.

I am happy for the band and their success. I admire Freddie Mercury's unapologetic flamboyance. The dude kept it real. But, I just can't like the music.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. I understand we all have different taste and respect everyone's freedom to like and enjoy what they want. I'm not trying to insult anyone for their taste, but merely expressing my own in a somewhat humorous attempt.

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The artist has perfectly captured the feline character when being scolded here: annoyed, defeated...but utterly incapable of shame or remorse.

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To be fair, if someone listens to the six best known songs by a band and only likes one of them, it's no surprise they wouldn't bother digging into the catalogue further

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protistreply
mander.xyz

Anyone looking to dive into a Queen album, might I recommend A Night at the Opera?

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lemmy.world

I love Queen, but (with the exception of Somebody To Love) I feel like you’ve picked out the worst and most overplayed Queen songs. If you’re open to seeing why folks like them so much, I’d suggest the following (in my order of preference):

  • Under Pressure
  • I Want To Break Free
  • Radio Gaga
  • Stone Cold Crazy
  • Killer Queen
  • Crazy Little Thing Called Love
  • You’re My Best Friend
  • Don’t Stop Me Now
  • Who Wants To Live Forever

There’s a pretty good mix in there. Some are more operatic than others. Some go pretty hard.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

Who Wants To Live Forever

This was always one of my favorites, and perfect in The Highlander

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vithigarreply
lemmy.ca

I'd add Seven Seas of Rhye to that list.

It's also wild to me how many of the most played Queen songs are among their least interesting.

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The songs that become popular aren't the "best", they're the ones that cater to the biggest audiences. That often makes them a bit more bland and "safe"

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My late best friend was a big fan of "I'm Going Slightly Mad" and he would sing it to himself probably a bit too much.

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You’re so right. I also just realized that I forgot One Vision as well.

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feddit.uk

I just don’t understand how you could describe them as dry?

Like, in my mind if you were to criticise them it would be that they’re too over the top. They’ve got punchy vocals, in your face solos, and most of the songs you listed are stadium rock.

There’s a bravado and flamboyance to everything they do, so it’s kinda supposed to be corny and fun. Not all music needs to be sad and have deep meaning, sometimes you need to let loose.

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lemmy.ca

I just don’t understand how you could describe them as dry?

To answer your question as written, yes: you apparently don't understand, as supported by the paragraph that followed this one. And that's okay: I don't understand either, for instance.

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lemmy.world

Not liking something and that something "sucking" is not the same thing.

I don't like Walking Dead. It doesn't catch my interest I find it formulaic repetitive and downright mean.

But it's a good show. It's incredibly well made. The acting is fantastic. The production is fantastic.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's bad.

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

Not sure if you mean Queen or The Walking Dead

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As many others have pointed out, you list a lot of their radio hits that I suppose can be overplayed and have become cliche in a way. But BORING? I will have to draw the line there. That music is nothing if not lively and full of spirit. Usually doing something unique with it's themes and style.

Don't tell me you are bored by Fat Bottomed Girls and Killer Queen?

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lemmy.world

Choosing their most radio-friendly songs and ignoring everything else? Yeah nah.

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InFerNoreply
lemmy.ml

Spread your wings

It's a hard life

These are the days of our lives

Doing alright

You take my breath away

All dead, all dead

Jealousy

Save me

Cool cat

Is this the world we created

Don't try so hard

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Whew, scrolled way too long thinking no one else enjoyed Brighton Rock

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lemmy.world

I was going to argue with you, but then I remembered I think Bruce Springsteen is overrated and boring.

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lemm.ee

Oh god, "The Boss" is downright fucking awful, I thought so in 1985, still do today.

He's like the worst of the juvenile blue-collar, chip-on-his-shoulder, "I'm deep".

And I grew up in blue-collar country, most aren't like that.

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sh.itjust.works

I think sometimes some artists need a guide - I didn't care much for Springsteen until someone lent me We Shall Overcome, based on folk working songs and mythology from Appalachians.

And then I've heard Tom Morello introduce a few of Springsteen's songs with some socio-political context on his radio show and enjoyed them more with that insight.

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Maybe since I grew up in blue collar world he always struck me as trying too hard. Then again, my peers and older siblings seemed to like him. Hard to explain, I guess.

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As he himself says, he writes songs about the working man, but has never held the job in his life.

However I did go to see him this summer for the first time. The cheesy Rock Icon bit is tedious, but by the middle of the show I was enjoying myself. He really is an excellent showman.

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Gonna play two chords
Gonna sing real hoarse
Gonna brush my teeth and wipe my butt
An I'm gonna say! ....
This ones for you

[18 bars of rhythm guitar]

Got me a band
Everybody knows how to play
Gonna drive em crazy
Cuz we're gonna just keep on playing this same hook over two chords for four and a half minutes!
...
This ones for you

Sax solo

[Repeat first verse and fade out]

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Rai
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I like how even in a post like this, “Bohemian Rhapsody” is immune.

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eightyreply
lemmy.one

Including it would eliminate ALL doubt that this is a baitpost.

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Raireply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I like Queen as much as any person but I can understand some do the complaints in this post. But I would LOVE to hear some complaints about Bohemian Rhapsody. Even when I was too young to understand music I was like “this is a mastapiece”

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harmsyreply
lemmy.world

But I would LOVE to hear some complaints about Bohemian Rhapsody.

Wish granted. It's a haphazard mish-mash of two potentially-good songs and one frantic pile of word salad, resulting in a scattered, inconsistent mess.

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harmsyreply
lemmy.world

I basically just described my actual thoughts about the song, though. The opening is a banger, the part from "I see a little silhouetto of a man" to "Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me, for me, for me" is kind of a mess, then it goes to a bit that sounds like it should have been the opener of a third song, before finally finishing on something that actually matches the style of the first bit. The whole thing is a weird patchwork that somehow became a hit.

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It isn't a patchwork though, it's just not structured as a typical rock/pop-rock/pop song. Mercury borrowed ideas and stylings from opera for it's structure. And the part that you say is "kind of a mess" isn't a mess, it just switches between even and odd meters. It does that to try and put the listener off-balance, sure, but that's intentional.

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I don't like queen and I hate that stupid song every time I hear it somewhere I cringe. Blows my mind how it's considered a masterpiece or even good. This is not rage bait. I listen to basically every genre but this song is overrated and silly af.

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lemmy.world

This just looks like a 14 year old trying to shit on older music to sound cool. I get it's bait and all, but it was kinda boring, standard internet vapor.

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What in your opinion is ‘good’ music? Queen was a fantastic band, one of the best imo.

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sh.itjust.works

The band released their first album over fifty years ago… as with all music time moves forward and that which was once the future becomes the past. Delete all the music released in the past four or five decades that came after them from your head and then listen to their albums. They’d probably seem quite refreshing and interesting. (For what it’s worth I’m not a fan either - but props where they’re due)

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lemmy.sdf.org

its fun to look at old music and think of it poorly but to realize that when it was fresh it was so different that it defined a generation, that is something else

Im not a fan of Queen but I am old enough to remember their songs being new and they were a force of nature. That generation fucking LOVED them. So much so that the songs listed above are played daily in sporting events and other cultural gatherings.

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You are not wrong… on a tangent I remember the first time I finally listened to a James Brown album and wasn’t massively impressed. Then I realised I knew most of the tunes from sampling. Samples on my favourite albums.

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lemmy.world

Upvote because unpopular and everyone forgets the sub.

I do agree with bicycle, but that doesn't support the conclusion of Queen.

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dustyDatareply
lemmy.world

My unpopular opinion is that inverting upvotes for unpopular opinion is stupid and only creates confusion. It was stupid on Reddit and it is even stupider on Lemmy. If an opinion is unpopular and you disagree with it, you should downvote it and reflect its popularity correctly. If you get super upvoted you failed because it means your opinion isn't unpopular at all and it is actually shared by a lot of people.

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I'm losing track of your logic but I think you have it backwards. In this sub community you are supposed to upvote unpopular things. Doesn't matter if you personally agree or not.

Yes there was tendency over at the other place to upvote popular things or things you agree with. That is the inversion.

Or you can just sit the whole thing out without voting.

*I may follow your thought a bit better now. The whole point of this sub community is the get unpopular ideas out there. Challenge the status quo. See new opinions, challenge your own. Avoid group think. Otherwise you have an echo chamber. If that's what you want you should block it instead of being counterproductive for the rest of us.

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Could have sub for popular_opinion and automatically cross-post submissions that are under 50% to unpopular_opinion.

Then you could see how popular an unpopular opinion is.

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Sucks is the wrong word. You just don't like their music. They certainly don't suck. Like them or not, they are undeniably talented.

A pedantic argument, admittedly. A spade is still a spade.

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leminal.space

I notice you got nothing to say about the greatest Queen song ever, Dont Stop Me Now, I guess theres always an exception to the rule.

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Zannsoloreply
lemmy.world

One of my favorite things I've seen on the internet was a gif mashup of don't stop me now with a gif of a porn where everybody looked coked out of their minds and this girl is dancing all crazy.

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It's so good google made it as the song for a Google doodle for Freddie's birthday some years ago.

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Actually listening to Ogre Battle when i read your comment. So thats fun and i wanted to share and thank you.

I found a deep cuts playlist to listen to before reading This article (i didnt agree with everything the article claimed, but was a passionate take on queen which was fun in its own way)

I accidently opened up the wrong app when I finished reading it and intended to come back here. After seeing the track list Ogre Battle immediately caught my eye as it is also the name of one of my favourite video game franchises.

Now i wonder if there is any connection between the song and the game. Now I really hope(and my head cannon until proven wrong!) is that the game creator or someone on the team was a huge Queen fan

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lemmy.world

For me it’s Pink Floyd. Never got into them, especially as I’m a guitar player. David Gilmour is such a vanilla player.

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For me it’s Pink Floyd.

What‽ 😮 Now I know how everyone else in this thread that disagrees with me feels. To me, Pink Floyd is on another level. There are good bands, great bands, and pioneering legends. Pink Floyd is a pioneering legend. Waaaooowwww. So interesting how something that can be deeply moving to me can feel vanilla to someone else and vice versa.

Anyways, thanks for being cool about it 🙂👍

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+1 for writing the word "interrobang"

which if we get your comment enough up votes, YOU will be responsible for many people seeing it for the first time in their lives

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tylerreply
programming.dev

Haha I think Pink Floyd is one of the worst bands I’ve ever heard. I do not understand how anyone can like their music, voices, melodies, etc. maybe I should post that here 😂

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Lmao I’ve never heard of it being described in that way but that’s perfect 😂

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lemmy.world

How could you say that when they've composed classic, heartfelt lyrics like these?

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike!!!!!!!

Bicycle, bicycle!!!!

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

Makes more sense in an era when you werent allowed to be gay/queer and also be respected in your field.

You do know bicycle is a thinly veiled code for being bisexual right?

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aestheletereply
lemmy.world

I didn't, but the song and lyrics still aren't much improved with that knowledge.

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

How arent they improved by that? You dont have to enjoy them any more, but the lyrics are undeniably improved by knowing what non-literal message they are saying.

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aestheletereply
lemmy.world

It isn't for me. It's my opinion. It's kinda like how knowing the back story for "don't drink the water" by Dave Matthews Band does nothing to make the song listenable to me.

A good concept doesn't always translate into a great song.

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

I feel like you misunderstood me so let me try to elaborate to fix that. My apologies.

You are making definitive statements, instead of framing your statements as opinions.

It might not improve your enjoyment of the songs, but they are objectively better lyrics by having more meanings.

Improvement doesnt need to be enjoyable. In the same way popular does not equal quality.

Im not trying to convince you to like the song anymore. Im pointing out that you misrepresented them with your comment and then doubled down on it. Its fine im not upset or trying to convince you to listen to the song more, im merely trying to explain, and at this point for anyone else reading this threads discussion.

Lyrics arent always meant to be deep thought provoking amazing literature, but serve the theme mood or tone of a project. You could say the same about dialogue if we wanted to broaden the scope of this discussion. Thats not a suggestion, just framing my purpose.

I hope this helps to explain what I was saying, and if it doesnt we will simply have to hash it out, or agree to disagree. Im fine with either outcome

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Im pointing out that you misrepresented them with your comment and then doubled down on it.

In what way did I "misrepresent" them?

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I missed the word "take" on first read. And was gonna ask what made them so bad live and was it Adam Lambert

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You get an upvote, I don't agree with your opinion, but that's why it's here

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I feel like those arguments are pretty subjective. If you live by them, you cant listen to anything repetitive, corny, grandiose, dramatic and cheesy.

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lemmy.world

I totally agree but I suppose you have to note that at the time, it was somewhat unique.

That said, pop music has been bland since the 70s. Rock has dominated the charts for decades and anything remotely experimental is just called 'noise' by boomers who just seem to want more of the same.

The surge of dance music is a breath of fresh air that has become the same issue, but now affecting the next generation.

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Pop music, by definition, is bland (or mundane anyway, in the sense of routine).

The broader the reach, the simpler it has to be.

Compare any pop artist to Miles Davis. Anyone can grok pop stuff, even if they don't care for it. Damn few people get Miles - I barely do and I have music theory training.

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"Sucks" is entirely subjective when applied to musical taste, I applaud your attempt for engagement. I do believe that Queen is overhyped to hell and back but other than that, big meh, lots of people don't like the same music I do, so that is completely normal.

Mild take.

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lemmy.world

The Beatles were also repetitive, dry, corny and cringe but I think you'd have a hard time making the argument that they suck because of that.

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I wish some people that liked Queen and these styles of music would realize they are not immune from the subjectiveness of music tastes. It's one of the bigger 'bubbles', if not the biggest, but certainly not the only one or I'd argue, the majority.

I like my choice of music to the point where most pieces invoke more joy and emotion to me than Bohemian Rhapsody, and I find it somewhat strange that even so long after it was released it still remains on top. That's completely different from what I like, where a new song can pretty much take the top spot at any time if it's good enough. If it's the same song every time, that's something I wouldn't consider a healthy level of innovation for a genre, but rather a sign that it has reached it's peak and has became seemingly permanently stale. At that point it feels to me that deep nostalgia keeps it in place, rather than it actually being the best current music has to offer.

There's nothing wrong with that though, nostalgia is a valid reason to like a song. But often some people that like that kind of music become militantly angry if you point that out. And then cite popularity contests that only people that like that kind of music participate in, to somehow say that everyone likes their music. And that in turn makes those contests seem kind of disingenuous since they claim they are finding the best music of all time. It's self selecting, because anyone that can't boost their specific music to the top because their genre still has healthy levels of competition and can't produce one piece that everyone agrees on, simply won't bother.

Just my two cents to an unpopular opinion. Again I don't mind people liking Queen's music, but I've had people literally be offended because I didn't want to listen to a group of men scream "Mama mia" in an attempt to burst my ear drums because they want the volume to be at 300% when that part starts, only to then also sing along for another volume boost. Anyone else doing that with their music would be told to mind their own business and keep the volume reasonable. It's the double standard and the denial of contrary opinions that I don't like. You can't expect everyone to like your music.

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I don't like Queen but I attribute it to the genre more than anything else. Do you dislike queen but also like other 70's-80's bri'ish rock?

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I don't understand how someone can dislike the choir singing and cheesy, campy, flamboyance of a bunch of different Queen songs, but thinks it's ok in Bohemian Rhapsody. Like, cheesy, campy, flamboyance is a staple of Queen's style. It's in all of their songs

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Oh lord, don't go and listen to AC/DC then.

Art is subjective, so there really are no wrong opinions, just disagreements. I strongly disagree with you, but that's OK. Fist bump bro, because it's different strokes that makes the world go round.

Now, if you say such things about RUSH.... cracks knuckles. ;-)

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Love of my Life is a beautiful song.

That being said, I also get a bit bored with some of the non-single songs they have.

But I still think they were innovators in their time and deserve their place in the Pantheon.

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They were trying to be more prog rock with their first two albums and I much prefer those to the popular singles of their later career

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thats gonna be a stick figure amongst their group of friends thumbs-upping you from a distance and then returning to their conversation from me, dawg

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Do you recognize their talent though? Because if you don't, then this is more of an issue with your musical knowledge and lack of appreciation than with the music. That said, their music is 50 years old now, and music has changed and progressed a lot since then. Much of that progress is due to groundbreaking artists such as Queen. Bands in the 60's and 70's were pioneering completely new sounds that would change the face of music forever. Many modern songs are derivative of Queen's music. It's understandable that you don't appreciate it like someone older would, because you've grown up listening to music that was a natural progression from this music. But in their era, they were something entirely new, fresh, daring, and awesome. Also, Freddy had one of the best voices in the history of rock and roll. I'd say he really only has 2 peers, Robert Plant, and Steve Perry.

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lemm.ee

I agree with you 100%, every sentence, and now I don't know whether I should up- or downvote you

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I couldn't agree more. Living in the UK I can tell you this is a dangerous opinion to hold. To me, their music is like nails on a chalk board. I cannot stand their music. I could never quite explain why. I've always just put it down to taste. But it's annoying to have to deal with just how much EVERYONE loves them for some reason. Like, there isn't much music I'd hate to hear more than Queen. I almost find it weird that this is the case. I sort of wish I liked them, so that there weren't so many occasions where I have to listen to music that I find shockingly bad.

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I don't think they suck per se, but oh god i remember when the queen craze and the rage comic phase overlapped and queen became the hottest band in the universe because the reddit hivemind decided it so. Want 1million upvotes, tell people how you're 12 but love queen. Personally i don't listen to queen at all, because i think they are pretty lame, but i don't think they suck. Their "fans" are or were turbo annoying tho.

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Everytime i see an ambulance tearing up traffic " another one bites the dust hey hey"

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Ooh! Ooh! Do I finally get to say the thing??? Yaaay!

Username is relevant. This guy HAS really lost his mind!

Oh, wait.....I'm supposed to use THEIR username......I'm so used to hearing MINE.

Eh. Still works.

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feddit.uk

Not every song needs to be good, and the fact that you even know the bad ones says something.

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They always were a bit of a meme band, and the charts exaggerate that somewhat. Even Crazy Frog had a number one hit, and absolutely nobody could listen to that in 2024 and think it was good.

They're not really a lot different to many other artists. Some middling songs mixed in with some bangers. And they knew how to put on a show. That Live Aid gig was fucking iconic. None of the 72,000 people standing in Wembley stadium that day were thinking "these lyrics are cringe".

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lemmy.ml

I don't really listen to Queen, but Bohemian Rhapsody is my go for song to test a new headphone.

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

Oddly enough that's my least favorite Queen song. I get why most people like it but it's very different from their other songs that I enjoy.

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Liking the song isnt that important when testing gear. The production value and its composition make it good for seeing what the gear can do.

Coincidently though when Senheiser was showcasing its $50,000 dollar Orpheus Headset, they had a pay 100 dollars to use it for 15 minutes promotion. They had it hooked up to Tidal to get their master quality audio and the most picked song for real audiophile folk was apparently Hotel California by the Eagles

So if you arent a fan or Bohemian Rhapsody, maybe Hotel California might be a better test track when/if you are testing new audio gear

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lemmy.today

I see myself as someone who likes Queen's songs. Sometimes I just put on a Queen song and enjoy it.

But every time I listen to my playlist on shuffle, I find myself skipping Queen the most. Always hoping the next one will be AC/DC.

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It’s their importance in time and last power. You have your tastes and then we have what they mean external to you. You can choose to not like them and still value their importance to society.

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Ooof. This is a good one. I appreciate your argument and reasoning. I thoroughly enjoy Queen, however I haven’t spent really any time evaluating their music as critically as you likely have.

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lemmy.world

They really did suck. I tried to get into their catalog a number of times because I thought I was missing something due to the amount of people into them.

Couldn't do it.

Same with aersomith, prince and others

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sh.itjust.works

This might be more an aesthetic/sound/genre thing for you, not any one specific band (considering your other examples)

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Honestly, that's the case for me. I can recognize that they were good, but I wouldn't ever choose to listen to them. I like music from that era, but Queen just isn't my sound.

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Could be. I mean, I do enjoy 70s and 80s rock. But something about these listed i just cast get into. Dunno.

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lemm.ee

Thanks for reminding me to listen to aerosmith & Prince.

Anything else you dislike?

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