Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office five days a week
CEO Carl Pei says remote work “is not compatible” with the company.
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That headline is rather confusing. Then I realised that "Nothing" is a fricking company.
Also branding his stuff as Nothing phone/OS/ear is hilarious. Hilariously bad.
totally agree. this guy couldnt market his way out of a paper bag... like naming a social media server 'moist'
I think it's a bit of a stroke of genius on the article author's part, because it's a great double entendre the way it's written.
And yet you don't trust your employees to get their work done unless directly before your watchful eye? Get real, chump.
"People can't communicate as well remotely," the CEO, projecting their personal lack of communication skills on everyone else.
Unironically written by the CEO of a mobile phone company.
Besides calling people who want flexibility children, the company was founded as work from home even though that wasn't right for the type of company. Sounds like the CEO doesn't know how the company works.
Get completely fucked you dismissive shitbag.
I'll say it again. Get completely…
I typically cheer device makers because I want competition to force my preferred device maker to compete on innovation. I had been on the side of Nothing. I now want it to fail. I want this dickfaced asshole executive to find out he ran his company into the ground by pissing off the talented people below him.
Most likely his company will slowly crumble over the coming decades as his top talent leaves due to mistreatment while he wonders helplessly and obliviously how it all went wrong
He will blame it on "the children who don't want to work".
Seriously. I won't buy Nothing-anything at this point over this move. Carl Pei can fuck right off.
how to get rid of your best and most talented workers
How to do lay off people without having to fork out severance pay.
I've seen that theory a lot, but I just don't think it's actually all that common. Layoffs are layoffs, but the common thing about layoffs is they are usually calculated to cut the worst performing employees and go up from there.
A forced RTO policy is going to be unpredictable in who stays and who goes
Even worse, mandatory RTO selects for employees who have no choice but to stay. The talent will bail out.
also it guarantees that everyone starts using working hours to apply for jobs instead of doing their work.
The thing is, these decisions are made at a level that doesn't much care for the distinction. Mid-level managers know who the good workers are, and in regular layoffs they'd be making decisions about who to lay off. But even before that happens, top-level executives have decided how many to lay off, and it's not much of a concern to them who specifically goes.
Same with RTO constructive layoffs. They estimate a certain percentage will quit, reducing their cost base. There's not much more thought than that.
"Nothing is requiring employees to be in the office five days a week"
Yes, you're right. There isn't a thing that requires this. You shouldn't be required to do so.
The problem with naming a company an idiotic name like "Nothing" is that it's so easy to make who's-on-first jokes.
Yeah I was really confused when I read the title lol, I have to remember that there is a company named Nothing
I'm assuming he made this declaration from his office, otherwise it would be hypocritical, and that's impossible. Surely.
Projection. Guys like this are admitting that they themselves are incapable of the discipline required for at home work and think no one else can either.
Not that it matters but that would make me incompatible with the company.
I really liked the work Nothing was doing, what a bummer. "this is a company for grown ups" my ass, how condescending.
What work? They are just regular phones, with a bit more ego centric bs marketing showered over.
Yeah their hardware was overpriced and I couldn't find any justification for their prices being higher than "well but we're independent and our hardware is aesthetically pleasing"
Like... I get why Teracube and Fairphone are expensive for their specs. But Nothing gave me cryptobro vibes
ye, and its a price I gladly paid for my fairphone 5. I love that thing :D
The thing is... Fair phone is how expensive all phones their capability should be. Its just that most phones are greed machines produced via the exploitation of labor
The design and interface mostly. Nothing UI is actually pleasurable to use, but I'm a fan of minimalism.
Fair, but isn't it just pretty much just stock android? I guess it's nice to have another option out there for (almost) stock though.
Stock android doesn't really exist. It barely works and is missing essential features like working Bluetooth audio. It's intended as a starting point for companies to build their own experience on top of, if any company released a phone running anywhere near stock android they would be laughed out of existence. Linus Tech tips did a pretty good overview of what stock android is a few days ago https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-hlRB2izres
Sure, but that's not really what people mean when they talk about "stock android". Generally it means a version you would find on a Pixel or Xperia phone, the bare minimum basically without complete overhauls like OneUI etc.
But you already knew that.
That version doesn't exist is what I'm saying. The manufacturers have to put in significant work to get it to that point. And along the way they have to choose to make it similar to pixel/what people expect "stock" android to look like, instead of putting their own flair on it. My point is that it takes just as much work to make an android skin that feels "stock" as to make one that doesn't. You can't dismiss their version of Android as being "stock" because that doesn't exist.
Wait, a CEO that's a total sack of shit? I don't believe it!
/s
It's a requirement at this point. Evil is the only way up, or so they tell themselves.
This right here. This article title. This is why you don't name your company "Nothing".
And when I saw it I had initially thought "Wouldn't it be funny if someone named their company Nothing and was struggling to push a return to office?"
Because wasting time shipping squishy sacks of flesh through meatspace to push buttons is so much faster than having them push buttons at home. /s
But if you have as shitty a company name as "Nothing" then I guess you need all the ambition you can get.
You forget, said shipping of fleshbags is done on UNPAID time. CEOs love unpaid time.
Why would we listen to this fucking tool? He's literally the CEO of nothing.
During the next pandemic, do employees get to refuse working from home on the grounds of being grown ups?
Why would you want to play into the hands of such a company?
I wouldn't want to that. I'm calling for a strike ✊
Well, if I was ever going to consider buying any "Nothing" product, that's enough to say fuck that notion indefinitely.
Also makes me wonder about teenage engineering at this point and the company they keep... Nothing and the Rabbit - shit hype products from shit grifter companies run by shit people.
It's only a matter of time in a position like that before they go full Elon.
Ah, layoffs are coming to nothing soon. Well, sorry to hear that they are struggling.
I mean, presumably they had to grab office space to make this move since they started during the pan, so maybe not.
The employees should just leave and found a new company. Call it "Something".
Oh look, Carl pei is scum.
My
companyemployer, after covid said “we are considering moving back to a hybrid way of working”. I replied “Well I am considering resigning to go somewhere that is fully remote. I am not the only one”And we never had a mandatory return to office mentioned again
And everybody clapped.
No. Why would anyone clap? It was a conversation, which resulting in not having a return to office policy. I doubt I was the sole reason
sure thing
What an asshole
More tech workers should unionize so they can say "fuck you" to this kind of idiocy.
Fair enough, I’ll show up at the office when they pay me for the time I just wasted commuting to the office. It’s my only ”asset” that is truly mine in this day and age.
theres nothing i hate more than nothing nothing keeps me up at night i toss and turn over nothing nothing can cause a great big fight
factory worker, industrial production, security gaurd, janitor, HR cock sucker, upper mamagment boot licker, ...yes so many jobs require you to be in office and cant be done remotely but the problem is slavewaging 50 hrs a week (including commmuting and preparation for work) with minimum to no paid vaccation days a year
Kinda predictable from a person who claimed their product (Phone 2a) has the best unboxing experience, despite bundling an USB cable to it only.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4VGZVf-phc
Can we please stop complaining about lack of chargers bundled with phones? If the phone is overpriced, then sure, maybe it's fair, but if the price of the charger is subtracted from the price of the phone, then that's the right thing to do, the charger can be bought separately if needed. Everybody has like a dozen USB chargers at home, it's standard now. No need to bundle e-waste.
"Old" chargers are USB-A. Bundled cables are USB-C to USB-C, so you have to buy a new charger for it, or an USB-A to USB-C cable.
Additionally within the same brand you can have cheap phones with full suite of accessories - a charger, a case and screen protector, but once you go higher with a price tag you get less in a box. Example: OnePlus Nord CE 3 Lite, which is now just a brand of Oppo, comes with a charger, a case and a screen protector, while their higher end model Oppo Reno 12 Pro comes with just a screen protector.
Samsung went even a step further and started making their boxes thicker, suggesting it comes with a charger, but in reality it comes with just a cable inside. Forgot which model was it though, iirc one of their Galaxy M line.
You can use your old USB-A to C cables, it's not mandatory to use the new cables. For me, they often stay in the box, because all of my chargers already have cables anyway.
Everything else you said it's just examples of how other manufacturers still bundle e-waste. This is in no way a counter-argument. I'm not saying companies aren't assholes, the problem isn't that they don't include chargers. The problem is that they exclude chargers and keep the price the same without any significant improvements to the phone itself.
Vast majority of buyers these days already have chargers, and the bundled charger will only bump the price, only to be chucked into a drawer to stay there forever. If a consumer does need a charger, there are plenty good options on the market with multi-port options.
Nothing doings.
I look forward to his next winge about brain drain and 'no one wanting to work'