You know, I just realized I don't think I'd ever seen a picture of Hitler smiling.
So I looked it up. And there are plenty of them. And he looks...nice. Like, it's weird. He looks like the fun uncle. He looks like there should be a mockumentary of him where he's played by Steve Carell.
One of the big things they taught us in history lessons was how he came across very charismatic and that he was good at winning people over.
It's really important for people to understand and learn in order to not repeat the mistakes of populism, evil people don't generally go around shouting about how evil they are.
Looking at the past 4000 years of human history, starting with the Egyptian Pharaohs:
Nope. People dont care, people dont learn. Especially when the make a whole display of how much they learned, like Germany does, you should be worried. Behind the facade lies the fascism, like it is currently furthered by most German political parties.
Navy Pilot, Navy Captain, Astronaut, Senator,, husband of Gabby Giffords, twin brother of Scott Kelly with similar resumé, and he's only 60. He and his brother can each win two terms and still be younger than Trump is now.
He also flips red states blue: he's pretty much the only Democrat who has won anything in Arizona in decades.
Agreed. I'm rather tired of the nation being run by workaholics. I want to retire someday. I want a candidate who shares that value, and builds a nation where I can do that.
Ideally, I think the oldest a candidate should be is 57 at the beginning of their first term, so that they retire from professional politics by 65.
That being said, no candidate is ever going to be perfect, and, he's still 24 years better than the current option.
He could retort by saying that he was obeying gravity, but falling continuously towards the earth while traveling at a speed that kept him from hitting the ground.
Harris will get steamrolled by either Trump or Vance; Kelly wipes the floor with both of them. I think Kelly needs to be on the top of the ticket, and Harris needs to step down as well.
I mean, Kelly is a lock too. Anyone who can fog a mirror and doesn't get an erection watching Starship Troopers will win this election. But Harris is kind of right there already, so that works for me. She could probably keep using the same email address and business cards. That's a nice plus.
Unfortunately I think casting away Kamala as the pick would do more harm than good. She is the likely candidate. Joe can even make the transition smooth by entrusting the rest of his legacy with her, which is the reason he chose her as a VP in the first place.
People also know the name Kamala Harris, and they've known it for years now. It'll be a huge turn to bring in a new candidate on top and do all of the rallying needed to get votes.
I think Kamala's success will spend on the VP choice, her administration, and her campaign team more than her herself.
She doesn't have a significant enough presence to challenge Trump. People may know her name, but they couldn't pick her out of a lineup.
Kelly just has to stand there while being introduced as "Astronaut" or "Fighter Pilot" to remind everyone that Trump hasn't actually done anything with his life.
Kelly's "blue" credentials are sound, and his history will appeal to many otherwise "red" voters. He is a real threat to poach votes from Trump's base in red and swing states.
Harris can't do that. She's a lawyer, and everyone hates lawyers.
But nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket. Harris/Kelly loses; Kelly/Harris wins.
Maybe instead of "Alive" you should go with "Currently able to form full sentences". Because Biden is just as "alive" as Trump in regards to how you are trying to frame him. The same issues Biden has, Trump has - just Trump's cult doesn't care.
Trump makes full sentences, the fullest sentences ever by any candidate current or past, no one could ever make fuller sentences, especially the losers and suckers that Trump is running against that hate America and want to turn us into a weak nation that only produces organic electricity that can't run our great country because it can't go through all the rivers and lakes because the water just stops it in its tracks and it stalls like those foreign import cars that Trump is going to put tariffs on because our great capitalist America doesn't need a bunch of foreigners telling us how to drive our cars in our country because America is great and we can do whatever we want unlike Taiwan, which isn't even a country, and needs to go away just like NATO and NASA and NOAA and all those other government agencies in the swamp that needs to be drained because it's full of gators that are making it difficult for people to use their yachts in all of this electric water that's taking over this great country!
2024 election results: Harris sweeps the nation after MAGA vote split due to rumours they could vote in actual Hitler instead of his imitator who couldn't even properly burn down his own capital building.
There's a slurry of drugs keeping the Jonestown dreamsicle on his feet, I don't know if he's any more alive than an LLM at this point. He's certainty less cogent than one.
At least Biden is still just running in "old human" mode.
I don't think he's hiding it so much as he's not gone off a cliff yet... We've seen with Biden that it can happen fast, and Trump is definitely old enough for it to happen some time in his next term
Just to be clear: this post is my way of endorsing Kamala.
Harris 2024! I'll certainly end up protesting something terrible she does, but when I do I will very much enjoy not being rounded up by the Department of Homeland Security for it.
I'll admit I could be wrong, but I remember there being a ton of writing on this since Trump won the presidency AND Congress, which wasn't really expected at the time.
I think all of these people are monsters, but I'm also trying to find the best option among bad options. If Harris is president, I can live with that. If Trump gets elected again... I think the possibility of Palestinians getting exterminated becomes a genuine possibility, and the damage to our climate and our ability to reverse course after four years look very fragile.
edit: this was originally in reply to a now-deleted comment about some challenges in changing the nominee, which would be resolved if Biden stepped down.
Didn't she work as a prosecutor?
A literal prosecutor, vs a literal criminal, might be able to make an effective dichotomy of democracy vs fascism in (somehow) still undecided voters.
Seems like that argument has won thousands of elections all over the world. This guy "less worse" seems very popular and speaks a crazy amount of languages.
I'm in NZ, we have a whole bunch of politicians to choose from, and it always comes down to who is the least likely to fuck things up beyond repair. It is not often that an objectively good candidate, everyone has their flaws.
In this example the question is not is Harris an objectively good candidate, but is she objectively better than Trump?
In my opinion yes, yes she is! Trump is the worst, the way he has emboldened the far right world wide is truly terrible.
This is how FPTP elections work, unfortunately, and this will always be the case unless we switch to parliamentary system elected by proportional voting.
Ok, now make a mosaic of Trump from all the Americans he killed by fucking up the COVID response, all the Kurds killed by his betrayal, and all the children imprisoned and misplaced for seeking asylum.
now make a mosaic of Trump from all the Americans he killed by fucking up the COVID response
only if you promise to make one for all the people killed from Biden's failed response as well. you better hurry, you've got about 500 a day to add.
all the Kurds killed by his betrayal
I believe the quote goes "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal". (rest in piss Kissinger, the world is better off without you)
all the children imprisoned and misplaced for seeking asylum.
ICE and the cages still exist, and in fact have received increased funding year over year.
Yes actually. Our bombs, our guns, our fucking jets. If you do everything you can to facilitate another country's genocide and the genocide would be impossible without your help, you are absolutely an accomplice to genocide. He's a hitler.
Kamala is literally a Hitler. Woman openly laughs at forced labor prisoner slavery. The difference between the actual nazis and her office as DA is that they targeted blacks and browns instead of jews. Idk why so many cucks are fangirling over her rn
This is a common layman misconception. The term "hitler" isn't actually based on how much the candidate engages in human rights abuses: it's just a marker of how widely voters recognize them as "hitler-y" (to use the technical term).
A fun fact: within the field of meme political science it's recognized that if we did apply a quantitative rubric, ALL of the US Presidents are actually hitlers!
Nahhhhhh we had a black guy once. Can't have a black Hitler. Would kamala be the black Irma grese then? Pretty sure you can totally have a black Irma grese
She repeatedly fought to keep non violent criminals locked up in inhumane conditions explicitly for their labor capacity. CA makes big money selling slave labor @ $0.75/hr paid to the inmate.
She is descended from Jamaican slave owners, probably with slave ancestry mixed in. You'd think it'd be an easy slam dunk win for hee to eradicate slavery in the US but the money too good. She got bought.
Dude fuck off, I'm sorry but there is no viable "tell Israel to get fucked" candidate. Biden isn't bombing Gaza personally, the US military isn't bombing Gaza. The GOP has showed they staunchly want to see it escalate and wipe Gaza off the map completely, this is a holy proxy war for them. Israel and its genocide has overwhelming support in US politics. None of this makes it right, but it does make it not a relevant issue in this presidential race.
You don't pick a candidate that shares every belief and opinion as you. You vote for the candidate which will do the least harm and the most good and only the frontrunners count as candidates and you know it.
It's nice to see that some people will morally compromise for "just a little genocide", either enacted or enabled (which is functionally the exact same). Must be so convenient and freeing to be so absent the weight of a conscience.
It must be so freeing to live a life so simple and ignorant that you think your little world can be zero harm and morally perfect while living a lifestyle that would be remotely sustainable for the world. The world is a big and scary place and a democracy is made up of a myriad of perspectives on the world. We all do the best we can with the choices we have. To pretend that we can accomplish anything by refusing to participate in an imperfect system is absurd fantasy.
By all means protest, organize etc toward noble goals. But don't act like "both candidates bad, myeh" is a real stance.
If both candidates support genocide then my moral line in the sand is crossed, no reasonable person who's against genocide can vote for either. But if genocide is on your list of ok things, then I'm sure it's a very complicated issue for you.
Don't worry, your mother and I will teach you about the basics about morality when you're an adult.
This is pretty fundamental trolley problem stuff. If one choice kills 10 million and the other choice kills 5 million but protects the other 5 million, you refusing to participate entirely isn't a noble stand, it's saying you don't give a shit about the other 5 million.
I care too much about these vulnerable people to help these other vulnerable people while not actually helping the other vulnerable people is just being an idiot.
The truth is, you didn't need to convince me. I think Biden is a monster. The meme is a set of jokes written in the voice of a mainstream American political pundit, not a genuine reflection of my personal attitudes.
My personal attitudes are that every US president is a war criminal, and Biden, Bush, Cheney, and Blinken should be hauled off to the international criminal court.
Biden at least kinda softly sorta sometimes pushes back a little bit on Israel. Whereas Trump literally proactively decided to recognise the illegally occupied Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
They're both bad, but one is worse, and it's not the one you're suggesting.
I agree with you... but I don't disagree with @john_mcmurray.
The fact that Biden actually participates in genocide at all is just ghastly. I honestly struggle to find the words for it. And once he crossed that bridge, I will never ever try to argue with someone who assigns him equal moral equivalence with Trump.
It's like debating whether someone who killed one of your children is better than someone who killed two. Mathematically? I think so. Conceptually? Those are who child murderers. The difference is negligible.
There are still Palestinians alive right now, though, so we can't give up, no matter how heartbroken.
This could have been a truth table
If and only if.
I thought about something like that, but the flow here felt easier.
Feel free to make another version. If it's more popular, I won't be mad.
It could have been a state diagram
This is anti Hitler propaganda, because you chose a pic where AH isn't smiling to make him look more hitler 😑
You got me. I confess: I have a bias against hitlers.
Councilor Uunona is devastated by this news.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_Uunona
You know, I just realized I don't think I'd ever seen a picture of Hitler smiling.
So I looked it up. And there are plenty of them. And he looks...nice. Like, it's weird. He looks like the fun uncle. He looks like there should be a mockumentary of him where he's played by Steve Carell.
One of the big things they taught us in history lessons was how he came across very charismatic and that he was good at winning people over.
It's really important for people to understand and learn in order to not repeat the mistakes of populism, evil people don't generally go around shouting about how evil they are.
I'm pretty sure that he kept his relationship with his wife a secret, so that women in the country would be interested in him
I thought it was to give of the image that he was married to the country, showing his patriotism or whatever
Yeah, maybe that was a reason too
Looking at the past 4000 years of human history, starting with the Egyptian Pharaohs:
Nope. People dont care, people dont learn. Especially when the make a whole display of how much they learned, like Germany does, you should be worried. Behind the facade lies the fascism, like it is currently furthered by most German political parties.
Populism isn't a bad term. People think that they're exceptional try to portray it that way. These people are usually fascists of one sort or another.
There's one with Charlie Chaplin
Jojo Rabbit is a good one.
You need to find pics of him in the mountains. At Bergforf or ….
https://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/adolf-hitler-during-a-trip-to-the-harz-mountains-on-his-news-photo/1265643056
He was a handsome chap. Just very misunderstood!
I'd love to see a poll on Trump voters for Harris vs. Hitler.
Oof. I kinda would too, but also... boy that'd be an uncomfortable read.
Pure guess? 30% would pick Hitler.... 15% would refuse to answer.
30% would not know who Harris nor Hitler is.
This take gave me a chuckle.
A special kind of chuckle.
"hehe...^FUCK. "
It shouldn’t
45% Hitler 12% Harris and the rest "No Comment"
Expect rather than names, just put down a list of head line policies.
Mark Kelly.
Navy Pilot, Navy Captain, Astronaut, Senator,, husband of Gabby Giffords, twin brother of Scott Kelly with similar resumé, and he's only 60. He and his brother can each win two terms and still be younger than Trump is now.
He also flips red states blue: he's pretty much the only Democrat who has won anything in Arizona in decades.
"only 60" - the depressing state of politics. There's a good amount of places where you'd retire before completing a single term at that age.
Agreed. I'm rather tired of the nation being run by workaholics. I want to retire someday. I want a candidate who shares that value, and builds a nation where I can do that.
Ideally, I think the oldest a candidate should be is 57 at the beginning of their first term, so that they retire from professional politics by 65.
That being said, no candidate is ever going to be perfect, and, he's still 24 years better than the current option.
Good thing China has a number of honey trap spies. I'm sure Schiff will be eager to tell them all the dirty, dirty secrets of a US President
And the reality is modern medical science has made 60 the new 50.
Which kinda works. because modern education has made 20 the new 14.
/s
//class wars are awesome!
Seriously, try being the candidate talking shit about an astronaut and decorated servicemember. "I like people who stay on Earth." Well I don't!
He could retort by saying that he was obeying gravity, but falling continuously towards the earth while traveling at a speed that kept him from hitting the ground.
I've actually been casting him as VP in my head for like four weeks now.
I think it's more likely than Biden being president next year, so fingers crossed.
Harris will get steamrolled by either Trump or Vance; Kelly wipes the floor with both of them. I think Kelly needs to be on the top of the ticket, and Harris needs to step down as well.
Did you not read the graph? She's a lock.
I mean, Kelly is a lock too. Anyone who can fog a mirror and doesn't get an erection watching Starship Troopers will win this election. But Harris is kind of right there already, so that works for me. She could probably keep using the same email address and business cards. That's a nice plus.
Unfortunately I think casting away Kamala as the pick would do more harm than good. She is the likely candidate. Joe can even make the transition smooth by entrusting the rest of his legacy with her, which is the reason he chose her as a VP in the first place.
People also know the name Kamala Harris, and they've known it for years now. It'll be a huge turn to bring in a new candidate on top and do all of the rallying needed to get votes.
I think Kamala's success will spend on the VP choice, her administration, and her campaign team more than her herself.
She doesn't have a significant enough presence to challenge Trump. People may know her name, but they couldn't pick her out of a lineup.
Kelly just has to stand there while being introduced as "Astronaut" or "Fighter Pilot" to remind everyone that Trump hasn't actually done anything with his life.
Mark Kelly as Kamala's VP? Having that balance of ethnicity would help her get the votes. It's exactly why Obama picked Biden
Kelly's "blue" credentials are sound, and his history will appeal to many otherwise "red" voters. He is a real threat to poach votes from Trump's base in red and swing states.
Harris can't do that. She's a lawyer, and everyone hates lawyers.
But nobody votes for the bottom of the ticket. Harris/Kelly loses; Kelly/Harris wins.
nope, he's too bald. can't be havin that
100% has my vote
Or Adam Schiff
Adam Schiff is a lawyer and California Democrat. He would easily win the blue states, but so would about 30 million other Democrats.
The red states will hate him, and he's opposed by BLM, so he won't be competitive in the swing states either.
There's nothing special about him.
That's fair. I'd vote for him, but then again I'd vote for a soggy roll of single-ply toilet paper over Trump.
Maybe instead of "Alive" you should go with "Currently able to form full sentences". Because Biden is just as "alive" as Trump in regards to how you are trying to frame him. The same issues Biden has, Trump has - just Trump's cult doesn't care.
Trump makes full sentences, the fullest sentences ever by any candidate current or past, no one could ever make fuller sentences, especially the losers and suckers that Trump is running against that hate America and want to turn us into a weak nation that only produces organic electricity that can't run our great country because it can't go through all the rivers and lakes because the water just stops it in its tracks and it stalls like those foreign import cars that Trump is going to put tariffs on because our great capitalist America doesn't need a bunch of foreigners telling us how to drive our cars in our country because America is great and we can do whatever we want unlike Taiwan, which isn't even a country, and needs to go away just like NATO and NASA and NOAA and all those other government agencies in the swamp that needs to be drained because it's full of gators that are making it difficult for people to use their yachts in all of this electric water that's taking over this great country!
Don't forget the 🫲🫱✋👐🙏💅☝️☝️👉👈👂🪓
trump is pretty braindead at this point. I'm pretty sure if he was beheaded he would keep talking for several days but wouldn't make any less sense
Ah, but he's the antichrist and will bring in the apocalypse.
My death cult demands it and I'll be damned if I don't get Raptured!
Trump only raptures you if you're under 14
Ewwww
Sheesh. Don’t let the Americans know that hitler is an option
2024 election results: Harris sweeps the nation after MAGA vote split due to rumours they could vote in actual Hitler instead of his imitator who couldn't even properly burn down his own capital building.
I imagine Trump has only a partial check there. He's not any young, just seems to be hiding that fact better.
I didn't say young. I said he is "somehow alive".
There's a slurry of drugs keeping the Jonestown dreamsicle on his feet, I don't know if he's any more alive than an LLM at this point. He's certainty less cogent than one.
At least Biden is still just running in "old human" mode.
I don't think he's hiding it so much as he's not gone off a cliff yet... We've seen with Biden that it can happen fast, and Trump is definitely old enough for it to happen some time in his next term
Yeah, he's only three years younger
Those suggesting other candidates should probably address the three issues AOC brought up:
None of these issues exist if Biden simply steps down.
Just to be clear: this post is my way of endorsing Kamala.
Harris 2024! I'll certainly end up protesting something terrible she does, but when I do I will very much enjoy not being rounded up by the Department of Homeland Security for it.
Are you sure contributions don't transfer?
Wasn't the whole Clinton Victory Fund controversy about the Clintons seizing contributions to benefit their campaign from lesser tickets?
Huh, I guess you can do just about anything if you're willing to pay the political cost.
I'll admit I could be wrong, but I remember there being a ton of writing on this since Trump won the presidency AND Congress, which wasn't really expected at the time.
I'm too deep in USPol brainrot to know if this is sarcastic or not
Both
Back and forth. Forever.
A little yes and a little no.
I think all of these people are monsters, but I'm also trying to find the best option among bad options. If Harris is president, I can live with that. If Trump gets elected again... I think the possibility of Palestinians getting exterminated becomes a genuine possibility, and the damage to our climate and our ability to reverse course after four years look very fragile.
It's very depressing.
Honestly not gonna lie, I wish Hitler was a even weaker candidate than he is today.
I like to think this is what they used to convince him to step down.
Well then, good news!
edit: this was originally in reply to a now-deleted comment about some challenges in changing the nominee, which would be resolved if Biden stepped down.
lol, yeah.
Put us in the c/agedlikemilk screenshot!
Is it not still accurate?
In US politics today, the main strike against Hitler would be that he was not a naturally born a US citizen.
Had he been born in Kentucky, he may have been able to unseat Trump. He would almost certainly be the front-runner vs Biden or Harris.
Cop
X
Sadly, all the candidates are very big cops.
Didn't she work as a prosecutor? A literal prosecutor, vs a literal criminal, might be able to make an effective dichotomy of democracy vs fascism in (somehow) still undecided voters.
Press X to doubt
(For clarity, I agree with you lol)
did you buy a lottery ticket yet?
the reboot of XENA WARRIOR PRINCESS* we all wanted to see.
*Mary Walsh letting out an evil "I told you so" kackle
Don't be like Hitler and Donald Trump and not vote for Joe Biden
First: I don't get to vote in presidential elections (I'm a Californian).
Second, Biden isn't going to be on the ballot in November.
I don't know
Not American, but “less worse than the other guy,” doesn’t seem like a winning argument to me.
Seems like that argument has won thousands of elections all over the world. This guy "less worse" seems very popular and speaks a crazy amount of languages.
How?
I'm in NZ, we have a whole bunch of politicians to choose from, and it always comes down to who is the least likely to fuck things up beyond repair. It is not often that an objectively good candidate, everyone has their flaws.
In this example the question is not is Harris an objectively good candidate, but is she objectively better than Trump?
In my opinion yes, yes she is! Trump is the worst, the way he has emboldened the far right world wide is truly terrible.
This is how FPTP elections work, unfortunately, and this will always be the case unless we switch to parliamentary system elected by proportional voting.
Nah, Poland have that and we still get two ghouls plus some plankton every election. This will always be the case unless we switch to socialism.
👏ITS👏HER👏TURN👏
Ok, now make a mosaic of Trump from all the Americans he killed by fucking up the COVID response, all the Kurds killed by his betrayal, and all the children imprisoned and misplaced for seeking asylum.
ffs USA, surely you know that democracy is about electing the people most citizens like, rather than the people most citizens don't not like...
LOL
Where have you been the last 44 years?
only if you promise to make one for all the people killed from Biden's failed response as well. you better hurry, you've got about 500 a day to add.
I believe the quote goes "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal". (rest in piss Kissinger, the world is better off without you)
ICE and the cages still exist, and in fact have received increased funding year over year.
You are deflecting from the subject.
I don't think I am :)
Yasss.... queen?
Money paw finger curls in
Don't worry, Nancy wants Newsom to be the candidate.
If there's an asshole in a protected category that the Democratic Party can find and utilize to their benefit, you can bet they'll find 'em.
No, no. Don't you know that he works as a foreman in an Argentinian VW plant?
I thought he had that base on the moon now. That's why we never went back.
No, that's just his old friends.
Not sure I understand, how is literally hitler not a hitler?
The label says "Not a hitler?".
The X means you fail at not being a hitler. Hitler fails this test.
Ahhh. Slow day for me, thanks for clarifying.
Double negatives FTW
He's not Not a Hitler
Perfect.
Adonald Hitrump
Somehow manages to be less likeable than a corpse and hrc.
And so... It begins.
Not "a hitler"?
He's doing genocide!
But only reluctantly... Well kinda I guess
Yes actually. Our bombs, our guns, our fucking jets. If you do everything you can to facilitate another country's genocide and the genocide would be impossible without your help, you are absolutely an accomplice to genocide. He's a hitler.
I'm referencing the image.
The image exists in the context of all that came before it, it didn't fall out of a coconut tree.
I didn't think joke would be criticized this much in a meme community. I agree that Biden doesn't 'reluctantly' do genocide.
Critical meme theory. 🧐
Yeah, but you can tell his heart isn't really in it.
He's weak sauce even when he's trying to hitler.
If there's anything his heart is in, it's Zionism. It's his one true political belief.
Thank you for showing me how simple and shallow the American mind is..
Kamala is literally a Hitler. Woman openly laughs at forced labor prisoner slavery. The difference between the actual nazis and her office as DA is that they targeted blacks and browns instead of jews. Idk why so many cucks are fangirling over her rn
This is a common layman misconception. The term "hitler" isn't actually based on how much the candidate engages in human rights abuses: it's just a marker of how widely voters recognize them as "hitler-y" (to use the technical term).
A fun fact: within the field of meme political science it's recognized that if we did apply a quantitative rubric, ALL of the US Presidents are actually hitlers!
Nahhhhhh we had a black guy once. Can't have a black Hitler. Would kamala be the black Irma grese then? Pretty sure you can totally have a black Irma grese
I was unable to find anything about that. Could you please link me your source?
https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/
She repeatedly fought to keep non violent criminals locked up in inhumane conditions explicitly for their labor capacity. CA makes big money selling slave labor @ $0.75/hr paid to the inmate.
She is descended from Jamaican slave owners, probably with slave ancestry mixed in. You'd think it'd be an easy slam dunk win for hee to eradicate slavery in the US but the money too good. She got bought.
You should ask the Gazans how Hitlerian they think Biden is
ifthere'sanyleftDude fuck off, I'm sorry but there is no viable "tell Israel to get fucked" candidate. Biden isn't bombing Gaza personally, the US military isn't bombing Gaza. The GOP has showed they staunchly want to see it escalate and wipe Gaza off the map completely, this is a holy proxy war for them. Israel and its genocide has overwhelming support in US politics. None of this makes it right, but it does make it not a relevant issue in this presidential race.
You don't pick a candidate that shares every belief and opinion as you. You vote for the candidate which will do the least harm and the most good and only the frontrunners count as candidates and you know it.
It's nice to see that some people will morally compromise for "just a little genocide", either enacted or enabled (which is functionally the exact same). Must be so convenient and freeing to be so absent the weight of a conscience.
It must be so freeing to live a life so simple and ignorant that you think your little world can be zero harm and morally perfect while living a lifestyle that would be remotely sustainable for the world. The world is a big and scary place and a democracy is made up of a myriad of perspectives on the world. We all do the best we can with the choices we have. To pretend that we can accomplish anything by refusing to participate in an imperfect system is absurd fantasy.
By all means protest, organize etc toward noble goals. But don't act like "both candidates bad, myeh" is a real stance.
If both candidates support genocide then my moral line in the sand is crossed, no reasonable person who's against genocide can vote for either. But if genocide is on your list of ok things, then I'm sure it's a very complicated issue for you.
Don't worry, your mother and I will teach you about the basics about morality when you're an adult.
This is pretty fundamental trolley problem stuff. If one choice kills 10 million and the other choice kills 5 million but protects the other 5 million, you refusing to participate entirely isn't a noble stand, it's saying you don't give a shit about the other 5 million.
I care too much about these vulnerable people to help these other vulnerable people while not actually helping the other vulnerable people is just being an idiot.
The truth is, you didn't need to convince me. I think Biden is a monster. The meme is a set of jokes written in the voice of a mainstream American political pundit, not a genuine reflection of my personal attitudes.
My personal attitudes are that every US president is a war criminal, and Biden, Bush, Cheney, and Blinken should be hauled off to the international criminal court.
Ignoring the genocide in Gaza are we? Do liberals realize how insulting this is?
I don't know if you can read the text easily on mobile, but there's a joke in the text describing there about how he is indeed committing genocide.
Not completely ignoring - I assume that was the swipe about "only engages in genocide reluctantly" was about.
Myself, I agree with you that we haven't seen much sign of that reluctance.
Biden is also Hitler. He is racist and fascist. Should meet your every qualifying metric
Oh both sides are the same ?
That tune again.
Prove it.
He's using the ancient rhetorical device of "I know you are, but what am I?".
Hate her because she was prosecutor but at least she's not the undead monster that is Bo Jiden.
Accusing the only one who hasn't participated in genocide as the real monster is dumb as fuck
Trumps view of Israel / Palestine
He didn’t have the chance yet, but once he has it, he will genocide domestically
Nevermind he already had the chance and didn't.
this escalated with him moving the embassy.
I get where you're coming from, but the meme is a joke, and this particular set of jokes doesn't work if you do it that way.
This ain't a joke, it's a pictorial opinion
Biden at least kinda softly sorta sometimes pushes back a little bit on Israel. Whereas Trump literally proactively decided to recognise the illegally occupied Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
They're both bad, but one is worse, and it's not the one you're suggesting.
I agree with you... but I don't disagree with @john_mcmurray.
The fact that Biden actually participates in genocide at all is just ghastly. I honestly struggle to find the words for it. And once he crossed that bridge, I will never ever try to argue with someone who assigns him equal moral equivalence with Trump.
It's like debating whether someone who killed one of your children is better than someone who killed two. Mathematically? I think so. Conceptually? Those are who child murderers. The difference is negligible.
There are still Palestinians alive right now, though, so we can't give up, no matter how heartbroken.